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[HairyMaclairy]

I was under the impression that Wright's exit from Australia was a tax matter.

Both.  Tax fraud and financial fraud.

Much like our pal Mark Karpeles had prior issues with financial fraud and fled France to Japan. Maybe Craig could set up an exchange.  He could call it Satoshi’s.  

[Peter R]

Sure you are.   You are so pure of heart you hang around with Craig Wright who has fled Australia on fraud charges, with Roger who has a prior criminal conviction and presumably with Calvin who was on the FBI most wanted list.

You can judge a man by the company he keeps, and the company you keep indicates that you are mostly like a fraud and shill yourself.  

Sorry, I've never interacted with Calvin. Craig Wright threw a temper-tantrum on social media and later blocked me on Twitter after I pointed out errors in a paper he wrote.  So we're not exactly "friends."



I've met Roger in person exactly one time.  But I do like Roger; I think his heart is in the right place and I believe he has done more for Bitcoin than almost anyone else.  

[AlcoHoDL]

It's not a sophism. The key word here is "liberty". Are you willing to compromise Bitcoin's decentralization by HARD-FORKING it to a bigger block size, so that you can buy your coffee at Starbucks and keep a permanent record of it in the blockchain? Bitcoin's enemies will still exist, and will still spam the network. Then what? Increase the block size even more, to accumulate more garbage? Another hard fork? Where does it end?

[ ... ]

I have yet to see anyone explain how increasing the blocksize increases centralization. It seems to be some idea that just took hold and that everyone believes in, because they believe in it.

And it doesn't end. There will always be a need for improvements because there will always be competitors ready to take over if we stagnate. stagnation is death.

[ ... ]

Of course it doesn't end. The "it" in my "Where does it end?" rhetorical question refers to the endless hard-forking, not to progress in general.

I don't think there's any point in analysing it any further. Some of us are conservative and choose the slow, scientific approach. Others are more impatient and want a solution "right here, right now". We can agree to disagree.

[TERA2]

Wheres all the memes? You have to keep the train going with memes!

[Toxic2040]

[cAPSLOCK]

Wheres all the memes? You have to keep the train going with memes!

We are all basking in PeterR's Aspergers like display of social graces.  Maybe the Mayor can meme us up a banjo.  But not a 5 string.  I want 40 strings.  And call it Banjo Cash.  I need to make sitars feel inadequate.  It's been a tiring few pages.

[HairyMaclairy]

I’m sure Calvin didn’t mean it and was just having a bad day. After all, being hunted by the FBI can be so stressful.  Now, do be a dear and fuck off.

[TERA2]

Next fork called Bitcoin Fix, because it fixes all of bitcoin's problems AND is the best fork to use to buy drugs and get your fix.

[jojo69]

I want 40 strings.  and call it Banjo Cash.

god, I'm dying here

[windjc]

“Talking your book” means you are a spruiker or common shill.  

No, a shill is someone who is paid to entice people to take a position that may be contrary to what the shill believe, so that the shill's master benefits.

Adam Back at Blockstream employs a large team of PR people to "correct misinformation" about large blocks. These people are shills because they are paid to promote a position that they may not believe in, a position that is hurtful for BTC (high fees / unreliable confirms), but one that benefits the employer Blockstream (by creating demand for their layer-2 solutions).  

When you say things like this you sound much more like a conspiracy theorist than a scientist. It weakens trust further in your position.

[HairyMaclairy]

Just fork the banjo

[Peter R]

“Talking your book” means you are a spruiker or common shill.  

No, a shill is someone who is paid to entice people to take a position that may be contrary to what the shill believe, so that the shill's master benefits.

Adam Back at Blockstream employs a large team of PR people to "correct misinformation" about large blocks. These people are shills because they are paid to promote a position that they may not believe in, a position that is hurtful for BTC (high fees / unreliable confirms), but one that benefits the employer Blockstream (by creating demand for their layer-2 solutions).  

When you say things like this you sound much more like a conspiracy theorist than a scientist. It weakens trust further in your position.

This is public information.  Of course they don't call their social media outreach team "shills" -- they call them the social media community outreach team, or something like that.  Remember brg444?  He was one of their employees working to raise segwit support, and was let go after segwit was activated.  

Do you really believe that Blockstream doesn't have social media outreach people working to further Blockstream's interests?

[jojo69]

The Blockstream situation is troubling.  It has become a question of which conspiracy one finds more distasteful.  In this respect Ver is the best ally small blocks ever had.

[windjc]

“Talking your book” means you are a spruiker or common shill.  

No, a shill is someone who is paid to entice people to take a position that may be contrary to what the shill believe, so that the shill's master benefits.

Adam Back at Blockstream employs a large team of PR people to "correct misinformation" about large blocks. These people are shills because they are paid to promote a position that they may not believe in, a position that is hurtful for BTC (high fees / unreliable confirms), but one that benefits the employer Blockstream (by creating demand for their layer-2 solutions).  

When you say things like this you sound much more like a conspiracy theorist than a scientist. It weakens trust further in your position.

This is public information.  Of course they don't call their social media outreach team "shills" -- they call them the social media community outreach team, or something like that.  Remember brg444?  He was one of their employees working to raise segwit support, and was let go after segwit was activated.  

Do you really believe that Blockstream doesn't have social media outreach people working to further Blockstream's interests?

To say that Adam is some sort of PR mastermind overseeing a large organization of paid shills is ridiculous. Adam has very specific skill sets and PR - let’s just put it kindly - is no way one of them. Roger is much much more capable of such action and in fact owns a social media paid to shill service. But even then, I’ll refrain from speculating as to Rogers true impact. Conspiracy theories are lame.

[realr0ach]

Next fork called Bitcoin Fix, because it fixes all of bitcoin's problems AND is the best fork to use to buy drugs and get your fix.

Next fork will be called "LOL all wealth has been exported to China and Russia while bugmen in the US bought bitcoin that imploded after China and Russia forced a reset".

[CRED.me]

Satoshi was/is not a person. Bitcoin was created by the Zionists who control the ASIC fabs via their control of usury. Bitman is likely a Zionist operative (@Dorky had documented their ties to Israel as one supporting evidence, and I documented that ASICBoost was preordained by Satoshi in the design of Bitcoin). Bitcoin is creative destruction of the nation-state central banks they control in order to gain a one-world reserve currency they control surreptitiously (a workaround for political resistance to the NWO), done in an obfuscated manner which causes all of you who hate them to actually work on their behalf. Deception, compartmentalization, and sufficient plausible deniability to appease nimwits is their modus operandi.

Craig Wright even fucked up the probability math in one of his recent nchain whitepapers and had to yank it. Craig isn't Satoshi, but he may be on the Zionist payroll.

Bitcoin was designed to be a reserve currency, not the transactional currency. The onchain scaling is to be achieved with $10,000+ transaction fees to kick the peons offchain. The $billionaires will pay these transaction fees to the Zionist who control the mining and most of the BTC (who the fuck do you think controls Satoshi's stack).

you really think we are this stupid?

You're incredibly stupid. Far beyond what can be expressed in words. So stupid in fact, you're incapable of recognizing how stupid[indoctrinated] you are.

Anyone who believes commodification of proof-of-work is not impossible propaganda or who believes Lightning Networks will result in anything other than an oliigarchy for Bitcoin, is ignorant of the technological details. Bitcoin is designed such that it's an insoluble problem w.r.t. to it's centralized control by the Zionists. It's designed to go into their lap no matter what action is taken by the free market.

We're participating in and helping to promote the construction of the 666 system. Cherish the gloating.

lot of really pretty mouths around here

[HairyMaclairy]

I am disappointed that Mooncoin is not mooning.  False advertising.

[jojo69]

Satoshi was/is not a person. Bitcoin was created by the Zionists who control the ASIC fabs via their control of usury. Bitman is a Zionist operative. Bitcoin is creative destruction of the nation-state central banks they control in order to gain a one-world reserve currency they control surreptitiously (a workaround for political resistance to the NWO), done in an obfuscated manner which causes all of you who hate them to actually work on their behalf. Deception and compartmentalization is their modus operandi.

Craig Wright even fucked up the probability math in one of his recent nchain whitepapers and had to yank it. Craig isn't Satoshi, but he may be on the Zionist payroll.

for fucks sake r0ach

you really think we are this stupid?

go die in a hole

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

It will take all my creative juices to fill this kind of order. Can't we just pay to have our memes shipped in?

[Peter R]

“Talking your book” means you are a spruiker or common shill.  

No, a shill is someone who is paid to entice people to take a position that may be contrary to what the shill believe, so that the shill's master benefits.

Adam Back at Blockstream employs a large team of PR people to "correct misinformation" about large blocks. These people are shills because they are paid to promote a position that they may not believe in, a position that is hurtful for BTC (high fees / unreliable confirms), but one that benefits the employer Blockstream (by creating demand for their layer-2 solutions).  

When you say things like this you sound much more like a conspiracy theorist than a scientist. It weakens trust further in your position.

This is public information.  Of course they don't call their social media outreach team "shills" -- they call them the social media community outreach team, or something like that.  Remember brg444?  He was one of their employees working to raise segwit support, and was let go after segwit was activated.  

Do you really believe that Blockstream doesn't have social media outreach people working to further Blockstream's interests?

To say that Adam is some sort of PR mastermind overseeing a large organization of paid shills is ridiculous. Adam has very specific skill sets and PR - let’s just put it kindly - is no way one of them. Roger is much much more capable of such action and in fact owns a social media paid to shill service. But even then, I’ll refrain from speculating as to Rogers true impact. Conspiracy theories are lame.

I never said Adam was a PR mastermind.  He's just the Blockstream CEO.  I imagine he mostly contracts with firms that specialize in public relations (PR) for ideas and delegates to Blockstream's Chief Strategy Officer.  

Many organizations engage in social media outreach to some degree.  A company like BitPay is on the low end of the spectrum whereas a company like Blockstream is at the top end.  Remember when Samson Mow left BCC after all his social media trolling and the various campaigns with the hats?  He was then officially hired by Blockstream as their Chief Strategy Officer.  Samson is a Dragon's Den member.  This group's purpose is to brainstorm and then put into action social media ideas to further the cause of Blockstream/Core.  Again, this is not a "theory" -- this is all public information.  

Incidentally, Bitcoin Unlimited considered hiring a Canadian PR firm about a year ago to help with some of our outreach efforts.  I thought it was interesting that after a few meetings, the firm learned that our goals were "in conflict with a large Bitcoin company they represented" and then declined to work with us.  We later learned through side channels what we expected that this firm was Blockstream.  

The point I'm trying to make is that "social media outreach" to shape the narrative in a group or company's favor is not a conspiracy theory.  It is a fact.