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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 2 (2.8%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.4%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.8%)
$85K to $90K - 8 (11.1%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (16.7%)
$95K to $100K - 12 (16.7%)
>$100K - 35 (48.6%)
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January 07, 2018, 08:35:42 AM

Satoshi was/is not a person. Bitcoin was created by the Zionists who control the ASIC fabs via their control of usury. Bitman is likely a Zionist operative (@Dorky had documented their ties to Israel as one supporting evidence, and I documented that ASICBoost was preordained by Satoshi in the design of Bitcoin). Bitcoin is creative destruction of the nation-state central banks they control in order to gain a one-world reserve currency they control surreptitiously (a workaround for political resistance to the NWO), done in an obfuscated manner which causes all of you who hate them to actually work on their behalf. Deception, compartmentalization, and sufficient plausible deniability to appease nimwits is their modus operandi.

Craig Wright even fucked up the probability math in one of his recent nchain whitepapers and had to yank it. Craig isn't Satoshi, but he may be on the Zionist payroll.

Bitcoin was designed to be a reserve currency, not the transactional currency. The onchain scaling is to be achieved with $10,000+ transaction fees to kick the peons offchain. The $billionaires will pay these transaction fees to the Zionist who control the mining and most of the BTC (who the fuck do you think controls Satoshi's stack).

you really think we are this stupid?

You're incredibly stupid. Far beyond what can be expressed in words. So stupid in fact, you're incapable of recognizing how stupid[indoctrinated] you are.

Anyone who believes commodification of proof-of-work is not impossible propaganda or who believes Lightning Networks will result in anything other than an oliigarchy for Bitcoin, is ignorant of the technological details. Bitcoin is designed such that it's an insoluble problem w.r.t. to it's centralized control by the Zionists. It's designed to go into their lap no matter what action is taken by the free market.

We're participating in and helping to promote the construction of the 666 system. Cherish the gloating.
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sh**by @CRED.me you absolutely must stop with the zionist nonsense. even if it were true it wouldn't help your reasoning anyway and it won't wash itt - you'll be censored for sybil-attacking
 
now satoshi acted in good faith
but he did not understand perfectly what he'd invented and since then his invention overtook him à la pandora's box
yes, then later btc was captured by an 'oligarchy', although the preferred term is 'republic'
which is grand. democracy and egalitarianism and similar jazzes are for women and children only. deal with it.

incidentally did you see where MP pointed out some stealing from segwittery, or that the jokechain is mutable, or that pow is conditional?
oh well it's all in the fucking logs

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mircea_popescu: the bricking-of-extant-asics moment edges ever closer.
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January 07, 2018, 09:02:53 AM

Is that a bcash train boarding?
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January 07, 2018, 09:09:47 AM

A point of clarification:  “Chief Scientist for Bitcoin Unlimited” is an unpaid role?  

Bitcoin Unlimited actually has no paid staff (although this may soon change).  Many of our developers are paid for their work, but they are paid by other bitcoin advocacy groups and not by BU.  I've received offers from other groups to pay me for what I do, but I've always declined.  Bitcoin has rewarded me financially more than I could have ever hoped.  I want now to help Bitcoin continue to grow so that more people can benefit from Bitcoin.

I wanna thank you for this a lot.

To me BU and other dev teams should be run / funded like wikipedia or wikileaks or is there anything against ?
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January 07, 2018, 09:10:53 AM

Did everyone here manage to claim/dump their superbitcoin and bitcoindiamond? I figured out the easiest method last night and got a few extra btc for dumping them Smiley
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incidentally did you see where MP pointed out some stealing from segwittery, or that the jokechain is mutable, or that pow is conditional?
oh well it's all in the fucking logs

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mircea_popescu: the bricking-of-extant-asics moment edges ever closer.


Even the Mining Cartel knew that PoW may be a "bug" rather than a "feature" and hence BCH was created as a hedge against the possibility that the Core team may just decide to brick all those ASIC miners.  Then at least they can try to rebrand their pet project as bitcoin thru the definition of having most cumulative work done. 
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January 07, 2018, 09:34:39 AM

Even pre-teens and teens use paper currencies around the world on a daily basis, but hell they can't even purchase Bitcoin without being 18+ yrs old and having a drivers license and a bank account first. How about that fkn irony, Satoshi? Should we add an addendum in the white paper for that too?
There is localbitcoins for that. Just putting that out there.

Or GPU mining a shitcoin and trade it for bitcoin.
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now satoshi acted in good faith
but he did not understand perfectly what he'd invented and since then his invention overtook him à la pandora's box

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asciilifeform: mining-is-a-bug(tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: the bricking-of-extant-asics moment edges ever closer.

Last time I checked, it seemed MP et al were hoping a PoW system that requires unbounded memory would rescue them from those who control the ASIC foundaries, but I had pointed out that it can be DoS attacked (because the requirement for memory is unbounded). Even if it worked, it wouldn't resolve the incentives incompatibility of transaction fees. Is there a new epiphany I should be aware of?

MP seems to underestimate the forethought of the Zionists. He's a large whale unaware of the whaling ship and net that will devour him someday. He's serving a useful role though and they'll play along for the time being.
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January 07, 2018, 09:50:35 AM

Lightning requires segwit. Which is to say, it will be as worthless as segwit is.

This is one of the most ignorant and myopic statements I have ever seen someone make on these forums.

Sheeeeit !

It is getting very weird here, with strange people invading this post every day with bullsh!t & nonsense. We need a more tyrannical user voting system forum. Where we vote or give a grade to most everyone and those shills will have a label on them: "This users opinion does not matter!" ... That would be great!!! Make the forum great again!!! Cheesy Cheesy
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January 07, 2018, 09:56:36 AM

now satoshi acted in good faith
but he did not understand perfectly what he'd invented and since then his invention overtook him à la pandora's box

...

asciilifeform: mining-is-a-bug(tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: the bricking-of-extant-asics moment edges ever closer.

Last time I checked, it seemed MP et al were hoping a PoW function that requires unbounded memory would rescue them from those who control the ASIC foundaries, but I had pointed out that it can be DoS attacked (because the requirement for memory is unbounded). Even if it worked, it wouldn't resolve the incentives incompatibility of transaction fees. Is there a new epiphany I should be aware of?

MP seems to underestimate the forethought of the Zionists. He's a large whale unaware of the whaling ship and net that will devour him someday. He's serving a useful role though and they'll play along for the time being.

check more often and further back lol. and get more sleep===make more sense
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January 07, 2018, 09:57:39 AM

Lightning requires segwit. Which is to say, it will be as worthless as segwit is.

This is one of the most ignorant and myopic statements I have ever seen someone make on these forums.

Sheeeeit !

It is getting very weird here, with strange people invading this post every day with bullsh!t & nonsense. We need a more tyrannical user voting system forum. Where we vote or give a grade to most everyone and those shills will have a label on them: "This users opinion does not matter!" ... That would be great!!! Make the forum great again!!! Cheesy Cheesy

I use the "Ignore" button for that purpose.
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January 07, 2018, 11:18:15 AM

Did everyone here manage to claim/dump their superbitcoin and bitcoindiamond? I figured out the easiest method last night and got a few extra btc for dumping them Smiley

Not yet, please do tell.
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January 07, 2018, 11:21:19 AM

Peter
Thanks for all the effort you put into explaining your position clearly for us all to read. In years to come when Bitcoin is still number one and Bcash is long forgotten, I think you will be smart enough to figure out where your logic was off. But as you say, you still have your BTC so it's all good from a financial point of view, but you have burned a few bridges today. Maybe you will be smart enough to figure out how to rebuild them.

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Hoist with his own petar; and 't shall go hard
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When in one line two crafts directly meet.
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January 07, 2018, 11:49:23 AM

The borg queen has noticed the propagation of alt coins in the alpha quadrant which will soon reach and influence the delta quadrant.

Strange that you missed that all the cool nazi kids are into Adolfcoin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2089708.0
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January 07, 2018, 12:03:53 PM

Lightning requires segwit. Which is to say, it will be as worthless as segwit is.

This is one of the most ignorant and myopic statements I have ever seen someone make on these forums.

Sheeeeit !

It is getting very weird here, with strange people invading this post every day with bullsh!t & nonsense. We need a more tyrannical user voting system forum. Where we vote or give a grade to most everyone and those shills will have a label on them: "This users opinion does not matter!" ... That would be great!!! Make the forum great again!!! Cheesy Cheesy

I use the "Ignore" button for that purpose.


It is a counterproductive measure! No one gets educated that way. But I understand you. Some of them are spammers. But maybe there will be an ICO making a blockchain based forum with very many features or flexible forum design by each adopter / token hodler, and they could pay the electricity bill of the servers(miners) with those tokens. Smiley ... God.. how many gambling ideas just passed trough my head. Cheesy Cheesy
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January 07, 2018, 12:07:52 PM

Lightning requires segwit. Which is to say, it will be as worthless as segwit is.

This is one of the most ignorant and myopic statements I have ever seen someone make on these forums.

Sheeeeit !

It is getting very weird here, with strange people invading this post every day with bullsh!t & nonsense. We need a more tyrannical user voting system forum. Where we vote or give a grade to most everyone and those shills will have a label on them: "This users opinion does not matter!" ... That would be great!!! Make the forum great again!!! Cheesy Cheesy

Bring back the glowing ignore button.
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January 07, 2018, 12:17:40 PM

Lightning requires segwit. Which is to say, it will be as worthless as segwit is.

This is one of the most ignorant and myopic statements I have ever seen someone make on these forums.

Sheeeeit !

It is getting very weird here, with strange people invading this post every day with bullsh!t & nonsense. We need a more tyrannical user voting system forum. Where we vote or give a grade to most everyone and those shills will have a label on them: "This users opinion does not matter!" ... That would be great!!! Make the forum great again!!! Cheesy Cheesy

I use the "Ignore" button for that purpose.



It is a counterproductive measure! No one gets educated that way. But I understand you. Some of them are spammers. But maybe there will be an ICO making a blockchain based forum with very many features or flexible forum design by each adopter / token hodler, and they could pay the electricity bill of the servers(miners) with those tokens. Smiley ... God.. how many gambling ideas just passed trough my head. Cheesy Cheesy


Yeah, but when ignored, a message show a "show/hide" button I can play with at random, sometimes showing pity for the poor censored message.
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January 07, 2018, 12:34:14 PM

But what if the Earth is really flat and then BCH is adopted in place of BTC
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BitcoinX (futures) fork now listed on coin market cap.
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January 07, 2018, 01:56:57 PM

Did everyone here manage to claim/dump their superbitcoin and bitcoindiamond? I figured out the easiest method last night and got a few extra btc for dumping them Smiley

Not yet, please do tell.

(thanx to fluidjax for working exchanges)
 
name - homesite - wallet - exchange

BTG  - https://bitcoingold.org - https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU - https://hitbtc.com
BCH  - https://www.bitcoincash.org/ - https://www.bitcoinabc.org/ - https://hitbtc.com
BCD  - http://btcd.io - https://github.com/eveybcd/BitcoinDiamond - https://gate.io/
SBTC - http://supersmartbitcoin.com/ - https://github.com/superbitcoin/SuperBitcoin - https://www.okex.com/
BTW  - http://www.btw.one - https://github.com/btwone/btwcore ? - ?

WARNING : The last one I am not sure yet : I didn't find any git repo on the homesite, that one is one I found, not sure if legit.
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