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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.6%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.2%)
H1 2020 - 30 (19.1%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.8%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.6%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.7%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.5%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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February 12, 2018, 02:05:56 AM

8440..IMO this weeks ATH
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February 12, 2018, 02:16:19 AM


I am not believing that number. I guess instead of getting pictures next to huge piles of drugs and money they can just say "we found 20 million bitcoins on his computer".

Yup, it doesn't make sense for soooo many reasons:

1- Even if that amount were total revenue is still a lot for that marketplace nowadays

2- Much less if it is profit, as it should be in order to be stashed and sizeable

3- Even if it were (well, it isn't) it is VERY improbable that someone "owning" that amount would have not stopped and run long ago. Because, 1) if your dark market is so huge you know it will be taken down very soon 2) Being able to cash out that much is basically impossible if you can't prove a legit origin... so why risk trying to make more?

4- If all the previous is not enough.... He would have take precautions to split and secure his stash in different ways as to making basically impossible to seize it all, or even a major part of it. So... should be assume his holdings/profits were even higher that 100,000BTC?

Yeah, complete bullshit... I don't even think we are talking here about 10,000BTC seized.... but, at least, that would have been a somewhat reasonable figure. Most probably they sized almost NIL and that is just an "estimation" of what could be "inside" the seized equipment of the evil kingping.

It was BCash!  Grin

Knowing Thailand I would not be surprised if it was all BCC.
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February 12, 2018, 02:32:50 AM

8440..IMO this weeks ATH

Your already wrong. LOL Of course.
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February 12, 2018, 02:38:30 AM

8440..IMO this weeks ATH
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February 12, 2018, 02:44:55 AM

We need more bears to feed the pump
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February 12, 2018, 02:45:02 AM

8440..IMO this weeks ATH

You're already wrong. LOL Of course.

Well, a bear can dream. If this market plummets from 8K to 2K, putting 1 BTC at risk would make a 600,000 USD profit with 100x leverage at Bitmex. On OKex, it would make a 125,000 USD profit at 20x leverage. And Finex or Kraken it would make a cool 24000 USD at 4x leverage.

Don't fret. It's still early Monday morning in Europe. Most are sleeping, and the wires are not available yet.

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February 12, 2018, 02:57:21 AM

Futures close tomorrow. NFI if it’s going up or down but I’m expecting a lot.  BFX margin loans indicate upwards.
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February 12, 2018, 03:05:28 AM

Well fancy that, one of my asks got triggered. Time to set a new bid. Wish I knew how to set up a script for this. It's a rather simple strategy, really.
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February 12, 2018, 03:45:27 AM

Im still bearish till a daily can close above 9100
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February 12, 2018, 03:54:35 AM

Futures close tomorrow. NFI if it’s going up or down but I’m expecting a lot.  BFX margin loans indicate upwards.
Time for Btc too ones more too unleash the kraken on al those bears
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February 12, 2018, 03:56:48 AM

Great. Newbie bears calling prices.  Usually happens around here when bitcoin gets a correction and they sell the bottom.   I never call prices since I'm a perma hodler and don't really care.

In case you missed the plan I follow

Bitcoin Savings Plan
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ImKoEk72HK7zuOf3FBa2mbcf6qxoe7tmvWgYIWwwnPM/edit#gid=0

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February 12, 2018, 03:57:59 AM

Also note, for anyone keeping score, that my 5% cash-out sort of became my trading stash. I got roached out at the bottom. Roll Eyes

I am not really keeping score, but there are ways that any of us BTC HODLers/Accumulators can plan ahead in order that we do not run out of either bitcoins or cash no matter what is BTC's price direction... .In that regard, the only way that any of us can get roachedtm is if we gamble too much with our stash - whether it is the trading stash or the stash more broadly, we have to maintain formulations that cause us to never to run out, no matter the price direction.

By the way, maintaining a "trading stash" should not give license to being sloppy in our conceptualizations or causing us to take BIGGER risks, merely because we are ONLY using our "trading stash."

One way in order to NOT run out of either BTC or cash, we can calculate a percentage, so for example, I had authorized myself to sell up to 1% of the value of my whole BTC holdings for every 10% BTC price rise.  We can use other amounts or conceptualize of our selling/trading limits in other ways, too. 

Any of these kinds of forumulations of sales authorization limitations would likely assure that we would never run out of bitcoin, even if BTC prices  were to shoot up 100x   - but merely preparing for 10x can be decent too since BTC price rises do not tend to shoot completely straight up 10x without having a few corrections along the way that would allow for a reformulation of the plan and even reallocation of BTC/ or dollars based on how fast and how far the price had gone up... which also allows a refueling with bitcoins, too.

Another possible way would be to authorize yourself to sell only profits that came through BTC prices rises, so for example 50% or less of your profits. 

Accordingly, if you have 10 bitcoins, and BTC prices go up $100, then you might authorize yourself to sell up to $500 and to trade with those funds (that would be $500 = (10 x $100) / 2)...   Those are formulations for on the way up, and you can make similar kinds of formulations for on the way down by considering how much fiat you have accumulated and then spreading the total amount of fiat that you have available in fiat down the possible price downfall scenarios and perhaps preparing for extreme downfalls - including for up to a 95% price decline... and projecting ahead in order that you would never run out of dollars within that range of price correction.....

Of course, any of us can become stressed and nervous about major price corrections and even retroactively second guess ourselves in terms of we should have sold more when the price was up or we should have bought more when the price was down... however, either way, if we go forward with moderation and a plan, w are likely going to be able to tolerate greater levels of volatility, profit from the volatility and don't get so stressed out about the whole volatility matter because our plan includes preparation for relatively extreme price movement scenarios.. and frequently, even the most extreme of our preparations won't get tested as long as we continue to prepare and to tweak along the way.
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February 12, 2018, 04:07:20 AM

hmmm... might have to tell Grandma to avoid this thread when she asks about my bitcorns...

Maybe if we get Lambchop back, she'll see some content more to her liking...
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February 12, 2018, 04:16:28 AM
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8440..IMO this weeks ATH

Your already wrong. LOL Of course.
Hi Cuck. Time for you to call this weeks ATH

Just here for mere hours and you make yourself a fool.  Your predictions already in shambles.  And yet another sexually insecure idiot using the word "Cuck".  It reveals a lot about who you are. 

But don't worry...  on the next downswing you will be able to dance around and act like you predicted it. 

Then it will go back up again.

I'll be looking for that 2k floor this week.  Shoot I'll give it 'till next Sunday night.
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February 12, 2018, 04:17:18 AM

Great. Newbie bears calling prices.  Usually happens around here when bitcoin gets a correction and they sell the bottom.   I never call prices since I'm a perma hodler and don't really care.

In case you missed the plan I follow

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ImKoEk72HK7zuOf3FBa2mbcf6qxoe7tmvWgYIWwwnPM/edit#gid=0


Cuck. If you "dont really care" WTF are you laughing at someone who had the balls to call a top as he sees it?
Cos you are a cuck. So STFU.
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February 12, 2018, 04:25:01 AM

8440..IMO this weeks ATH

Your already wrong. LOL Of course.
Hi Cuck. Time for you to call this weeks ATH

Just here for mere hours and you make yourself a fool.  Your predictions already in shambles.  And yet another sexually insecure idiot using the word "Cuck".  It reveals a lot about who you are.  

But don't worry...  on the next downswing you will be able to dance around and act like you predicted it.  

Then it will go back up again.

I'll be looking for that 2k floor this week.  Shoot I'll give it 'till next Sunday night.


OMG. I call it how I see it. And I bet that's something you will never do, cos the only thing you seem to be able to do is hate on ppl.
If I'm so useless, please ignore me.

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February 12, 2018, 04:34:59 AM

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are you serious?

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February 12, 2018, 04:37:35 AM

8440..IMO this weeks ATH

Your already wrong. LOL Of course.
Hi Cuck. Time for you to call this weeks ATH

Just here for mere hours and you make yourself a fool.  Your predictions already in shambles.  And yet another sexually insecure idiot using the word "Cuck".  It reveals a lot about who you are.  

But don't worry...  on the next downswing you will be able to dance around and act like you predicted it.  

Then it will go back up again.

I'll be looking for that 2k floor this week.  Shoot I'll give it 'till next Sunday night.


OMG. I call it how I see it. And I bet that's something you will never do, cos the only thing you seem to be able to do is hate on ppl.
If I'm so useless, please ignore me.



I believe I called you a "sexually insecure idiot".  Pretty sure that is calling it like I see it.

As to your request to be ignored...  Granted.
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February 12, 2018, 04:41:25 AM

8440..IMO this weeks ATH

Your already wrong. LOL Of course.
Hi Cuck. Time for you to call this weeks ATH

Just here for mere hours and you make yourself a fool.  Your predictions already in shambles.  And yet another sexually insecure idiot using the word "Cuck".  It reveals a lot about who you are.  

But don't worry...  on the next downswing you will be able to dance around and act like you predicted it.  

Then it will go back up again.

I'll be looking for that 2k floor this week.  Shoot I'll give it 'till next Sunday night.


OMG. I call it how I see it. And I bet that's something you will never do, cos the only thing you seem to be able to do is hate on ppl.
If I'm so useless, please ignore me.



I believe I called you a "sexually insecure idiot".  Pretty sure that is calling it like I see it.

As to your request to be ignored...  Granted.
thanks xo
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