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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 10 (6.5%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.4%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.8%)
H2 2020 - 28 (18.2%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.8%)
H2 2021 - 31 (20.1%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.9%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.7%)
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July 28, 2018, 02:50:13 AM

Don’t believe the hype.  It was never going to happen.

Buying opportunity of a lifetime coming.  Patience.  

+1 WOsMerit.

You alleged bitcoin bulls, seem to be hopium for something, and suggesting that there is some kind of certainty.

No certainty here, but for me it wouldn't be bitcoinish to go past 10k without another plunge. Possibily harder than the recent ones.

Hey.  Our current maximum dip during this particular correction has so far been in the territory of $5,777, and I have already asserted that I am far from certain that such numbers would be the bottom and that I will feel a lot more comfortable to be in the $10k price territory, either challenging the resistance or breaking above it, and such another run at $10k is going to put us further away from $5,777 and cause more difficulties to challenge it.

Certainly, I agree with your characterization that getting above $10k would not rule out another downward shot, and surely severe corrections remain a part of bitcoin expected ongoing price dynamics.    So, even though we have already had several tests of the $6k region, we are not so far from $6k now and even $10k would not be too far from $6k - even though going above $10k again would seem to make it much more difficult to come down to $6k and even cause $3k to $4k to be of lower probabilities.  So BTC price dynamics remains a product of price momentum, the success of FUD/FOMO spreading and changes in some of the fundamentals, including effects of various networking effects.

Funny how either scenario could still reasonably play out (that is 1) early 2013 scenario or 2) late 2013 scenario).

Maybe that is how a bull slowly transforms into a bear, or goes roach, or BJA?
or turns into something totally different.. .like a bulldog?

When the world realizes it's the joos, bitcoin will go to zero because a permissionless digital token can't even exist. Silver will be the only thing guaranteed to keep its value. Woof, woof!

Ahahahahaha.,....... Looks like an admission to me.

You are one step further than either Roach or BJA.. because neither of them would ever have admitted either a transformation or even movement in that direction.


Get the fuck out of here with your nonsensical metamorphical theories Tongue Tongue

hahahahaha

You likely realize that the bulldog was just fun... arf, woof, arf, and I think that one of the good aspects of this whole BTC price performance and experimenting with preparations for any price direction including UP, DOWN and SIDEWAYS remains learning from the process and even figuring out ways to NOT get upset when folks (including yours truly) disagree with your probability assignments)). 

Hey, if I was more bearish, then perhaps, I would have stacked up more BTC on this particular drop, perhaps?  Perhaps?  Perhaps?  I am not going to concede to change my style or even to second guess myself with various "what ifs?", even though sometimes going through the whole UP and DOWN price change process might cause me to engage in additional tweaking of my dollar versus BTC allocations.   Actually, the way up from $2.5k to $20k happened so quickly, that I personally just stuck to a plan that I already had and attempted tweaking here and there in order to attempt to feel comfortable with how fast the BTC price was going up.  The same is true on the way down from $20k to $6k-ish... have to tweak a few times based on how fast the price came down.. also a bit faster than expected.... Is it over or not?  none of us know, but we still can attempt to bet on probabilities from where we are at right now, and what we view to be more or less probable.

Yes, it could take another 3 months to play out to see if one view is more correct than another, or it could take another 3 years.. holy fuck.. hoping that it will not take another 3 years, but it is not an unreasonable (even though seemingly less probable) BTC price dynamic playing out. 
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July 28, 2018, 02:50:53 AM

Can anyone recommend me what's the best wallet for iPhone? I have been testing Jaxx and it looks good. Any opinion in it? Anything better?

Multicurrency is a plus, as I am more inclined to spending other coins than Bitcoin.

(Yes, I have done my homework and googled reviews, etc.... but now I want the opinion of real people here on WO).
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July 28, 2018, 03:02:35 AM

Preferably you want one where you can set your own fees.  Can't remember if Jaxx allows that.  Breadwallet doesnt and their fees are way too high.
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July 28, 2018, 03:11:42 AM

Anybody know what's up with Gemini? It's been down for while for "maintenance".
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July 28, 2018, 03:14:07 AM

Preferably you want one where you can set your own fees.  Can't remember if Jaxx allows that.  Breadwallet doesnt and their fees are way too high.

Jaxx allows for three settings in the configuration: Fast, Average and Slow... It doesn't look like it has a custom option unless it is shown before sending the tx.... I am now loading some ltc to do a test.

Which one do you use?

I only used blockchain.info wallet and that was years ago.
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July 28, 2018, 03:20:33 AM

Preferably you want one where you can set your own fees.  Can't remember if Jaxx allows that.  Breadwallet doesnt and their fees are way too high.

Jaxx allows for three settings in the configuration: Fast, Average and Slow... It doesn't look like it has a custom option unless it is shown before sending the tx.... I am now loading some ltc to do a test.

Which one do you use?

I only used blockchain.info wallet and that was years ago.

I don't use an IOS wallet anymore.  I transfer direct from exchange wallets.  But when I was using IOS wallets, I used Jaxx for awhile. 
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July 28, 2018, 03:54:37 AM

Great. I managed to have one stuck (unconfirmed) Litecoin tx for more than 15 minutes already. Didn't know that was even possible LOL
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July 28, 2018, 04:55:52 AM

Collectivism is a good sign of weakness. It shows that you are not mentally apt enough to see people as individuals with their own thoughts and ideals. Instead you lazily put people into groups based on whatever criteria you come up with to ease your weak brain from needing to think too much.

Yea well the blacks collectivize and the hispanics collectivize and the Chinese collectivize. And all of them see white people as a collective group so they have no qualms about blaming you for the actions of other white people. If you choose not to collectivize with your people than you are going to get steamrolled by people who are willing to do that. It's that simple buddy. I would invite you to die on your hill alone, as an individual, trying to repell the endless tide of people who are willing to collectivize except that I need you with me because I don't want to die all alone on a hill taking my final comfort in that I was an individual at the end. So it's time to man up and stand with your people.

*edit* I should make a clarification. I'm not an individualist or a collectivist, I'm a necessarian. It's liberalism, and the individualism that is part of liberalism, that lead white people to the success that we found in 16th through 20th centuries and are somewhat clinging to in the 21st. We should advocate individualism where we can and collectivism where and when we must. It's a bit like violence in self defense. You don't want to go around punching people all the time to solve your problems, generally speaking violence is bad, but you need to be prepared and willing to use it when and if you must.

Or I go die alone on an island in middle of nowhere. Perhaps a floating island. Though I won't be alone. There will be others who want to swim out past the breakers and watch the world die.
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July 28, 2018, 05:08:34 AM

Or I go die alone on an island in middle of nowhere. Perhaps a floating island. Though I won't be alone. There will be others who want to swim out past the breakers and watch the world die.



What about a island in the sky? A orbital island, perhaps?
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July 28, 2018, 05:12:56 AM

Or I go die alone on an island in middle of nowhere. Perhaps a floating island. Though I won't be alone. There will be others who want to swim out past the breakers and watch the world die.



What about a island in the sky? A orbital island, perhaps?


Sounds like fun. Do you know of any projects that are close to having something like that created?
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July 28, 2018, 05:14:47 AM

Or I go die alone on an island in middle of nowhere. Perhaps a floating island. Though I won't be alone. There will be others who want to swim out past the breakers and watch the world die.



What about a island in the sky? A orbital island, perhaps?


Sounds like fun. Do you know of any projects that are close to having something like that created?


No, but it would be great. We can only dream.
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July 28, 2018, 05:41:20 AM

We could call it Elysium.
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July 28, 2018, 05:56:26 AM

If the world is going to plunge into some kind of huge catastrophe, I'm not sure I want to survive that...

Everyday existence for the survivors will become very uncomfotable.

It would require lots and lots of manual work.
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Or I go die alone on an island in middle of nowhere. Perhaps a floating island. Though I won't be alone. There will be others who want to swim out past the breakers and watch the world die.

But you'll still be living with our ghosts...
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July 28, 2018, 07:29:43 AM

Major alts are not really following this rally. Dilemma: will they follow (as happened before) of is it a signal that the rally is a mirage?

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July 28, 2018, 07:31:51 AM
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July 28, 2018, 08:39:44 AM

I predict an explosion in ethnic violence at some point across the entire western world, and most people will be taken by complete surprise.

I know plenty of mixed race folks. Who are they going to kill? Themselves?
They get the worst of it. They won't be accepted by any major side.
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July 28, 2018, 08:51:16 AM

Anybody know what's up with Gemini? It's been down for while for "maintenance".



yeah , just maintaining
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July 28, 2018, 08:54:00 AM

I predict an explosion in ethnic violence at some point across the entire western world, and most people will be taken by complete surprise.

I know plenty of mixed race folks. Who are they going to kill? Themselves?
They get the worst of it. They won't be accepted by any major side.

Considering they will be like 90% of the global population, they will be the major side.
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July 28, 2018, 08:54:59 AM

Collectivism is inevitable. It's how you win wars. Without it you just die. Individualism is only possible in times of peace, and peace is always temporary.

The difference is that when a culture on the right fights a war it's against outsiders. When the left does it the state murders its own people. Choose wisely.
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