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October 30, 2018, 02:04:29 AM
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Way off topic but maybe Ibian or any other boat owners will know the answer...

I will be living on a seastead in a few months...about 15nm out to sea. The water is relatively calm here (mean wave height of about 1-2 feet). But of course throughout the year it could get up to 6-7 feet. The seastead design is capable of handling 15 feet waves so no problem.

My question is about my commuter boat. I just had to take Jet Ski off of my potential boats list because it is not allowed on the nearest island (where I would go to grab groceries and grab a bite).

I'm leaning toward a whaly dinghy like this:


This would be good because I could pull the outboard and hang that from the side of the seastead (likely could not keep a whole boat out of the water unless it is super light) and the boat could bounce around in any storm and be fine, even flipped upside down.

The worry I have is the ride on the open sea in a dinghy. I've been in a small dinghy in about 2-3 foot waves and it would not be a pleasant drive for 15 nm.

I could get something bigger I think I need to keep the criteria that the boat can flip over and not be that bad off (like if I wait until morning to come out and flip it back over).

I will have 3 mooring balls around the seastead far enough away for about a 20-30 foot boat.

Any suggestions?

I asked this on a boater forum only to be attacked for the concept of seasteading and the whole "you're gonna die!! zOMGz!! or <insert seastead jokes here>". No constructive assistance at all. The seastead builder is suggesting I just get a big boat...that it won't flip.

And no...there are no hurricanes/typhoons here.
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Why am I still here again? Cheesy


Didn't you hear? We were all funneled in here by the jews as part of their elaborate plan to take all of our shekels, using bitcoin as a clever theft device.
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That must be why you're back. Sailing season over?
Yep. I mean the boat has engine heat much like a car, it actually gets quite comfy even now. But it's just not fun to sail when it's cold all the time, and overnight stays are right out except with shore power for heating, in which case why bother. Also it keeps breaking, don't get an old boat.

What happens if the bottom bit needs fixing? How much does a fix in a dry dock cost? Is it cheaper to just buy a "new" old boat than pay for the dry dock?
Taking it out of the water for the winter, so nothing additional. Got a place on land for it, it's standard stuff.
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October 30, 2018, 02:35:23 AM

Way off topic but maybe Ibian or any other boat owners will know the answer...

I will be living on a seastead in a few months...about 15nm out to sea. The water is relatively calm here (mean wave height of about 1-2 feet). But of course throughout the year it could get up to 6-7 feet. The seastead design is capable of handling 15 feet waves so no problem.

My question is about my commuter boat. I just had to take Jet Ski off of my potential boats list because it is not allowed on the nearest island (where I would go to grab groceries and grab a bite).

I'm leaning toward a whaly dinghy like this:


This would be good because I could pull the outboard and hang that from the side of the seastead (likely could not keep a whole boat out of the water unless it is super light) and the boat could bounce around in any storm and be fine, even flipped upside down.

The worry I have is the ride on the open sea in a dinghy. I've been in a small dinghy in about 2-3 foot waves and it would not be a pleasant drive for 15 nm.

I could get something bigger I think I need to keep the criteria that the boat can flip over and not be that bad off (like if I wait until morning to come out and flip it back over).

I will have 3 mooring balls around the seastead far enough away for about a 20-30 foot boat.

Any suggestions?

I asked this on a boater forum only to be attacked for the concept of seasteading and the whole "you're gonna die!! zOMGz!! or <insert seastead jokes here>". No constructive assistance at all. The seastead builder is suggesting I just get a big boat...that it won't flip.

And no...there are no hurricanes/typhoons here.

Oh God, 15 nautical miles? That's pretty far....

Anyway, what's with the rules against Jet skis? What's the exact wording and reason? Would something like this be allowed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZk8pTgYJI
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October 30, 2018, 02:39:42 AM

In other events, it looks like we may get to see how well bitcoin weathers a proper bear market in equities, for the first time.
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Way off topic but maybe Ibian or any other boat owners will know the answer...

I will be living on a seastead in a few months...about 15nm out to sea. The water is relatively calm here (mean wave height of about 1-2 feet). But of course throughout the year it could get up to 6-7 feet. The seastead design is capable of handling 15 feet waves so no problem.

My question is about my commuter boat. I just had to take Jet Ski off of my potential boats list because it is not allowed on the nearest island (where I would go to grab groceries and grab a bite).

I'm leaning toward a whaly dinghy like this:


This would be good because I could pull the outboard and hang that from the side of the seastead (likely could not keep a whole boat out of the water unless it is super light) and the boat could bounce around in any storm and be fine, even flipped upside down.

The worry I have is the ride on the open sea in a dinghy. I've been in a small dinghy in about 2-3 foot waves and it would not be a pleasant drive for 15 nm.

I could get something bigger I think I need to keep the criteria that the boat can flip over and not be that bad off (like if I wait until morning to come out and flip it back over).

I will have 3 mooring balls around the seastead far enough away for about a 20-30 foot boat.

Any suggestions?

I asked this on a boater forum only to be attacked for the concept of seasteading and the whole "you're gonna die!! zOMGz!! or <insert seastead jokes here>". No constructive assistance at all. The seastead builder is suggesting I just get a big boat...that it won't flip.

And no...there are no hurricanes/typhoons here.
That's far enough that I'd get a twin engine boat. You don't want a dead engine midway through the trip, has happened to be four times now and it's a complete bitch even in a safe place with plenty of power and drinking water. And storms happen so get something big enough to handle that. Maybe get a closed cockpit too in case of rain. If nothing else for potential guests.
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October 30, 2018, 02:48:49 AM

Oh God, 15 nautical miles? That's pretty far....

Anyway, what's with the rules against Jet skis? What's the exact wording and reason? Would something like this be allowed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZk8pTgYJI

I'm pretty sure that would not be allowed.

I don't know the exact wording. Probably something like "by order of the king, no jet skis are allowed within 10 nautical miles of national parks...due to reasons".
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October 30, 2018, 02:53:54 AM

In other events, it looks like we may get to see how well bitcoin weathers a proper bear market in equities, for the first time.

What is your point?

Is the stock market and PMs expected to go down in the coming weeks/months?

Are you referring to any other assets, or currencies?

You are contemplating whether BTC is going to be correlated or not?  And, BTC along side with the performance of other cryptos?

Maybe in the short term all assets and currencies go down together?
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You are one of the cool kids; I'm just having trouble finding a larger version of your avatar to work with.
Awesome thanks! yeah I had to find a cached version of my profile when I changed avatars and wanted to go back. I'm pretty sure I do have a larger file somewhere I can send you.
 

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Oh God, 15 nautical miles? That's pretty far....

Anyway, what's with the rules against Jet skis? What's the exact wording and reason? Would something like this be allowed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZk8pTgYJI

I'm pretty sure that would not be allowed.

I don't know the exact wording. Probably something like "by order of the king, no jet skis are allowed within 10 nautical miles of national parks...due to reasons".

"reasons" being asshat western tourists acting like frat boys

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Ok

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You need to patent those designs. We can't have No-Coiners walking around with them! Smiley

A real hat.  Based on my avatar.  Great link but 36 minimum order is probably slightly excessive!

36 of each type?
What if we did a mass purchase of all those made?
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That's when I think I lost it and had to walk away from the Blackjack tables. I think I actually laughed out loud something to the effect of "the statistical probability of the last six hands of bullshit we've seen are just too inconceivable for me to deal with right now. This should not be happening with this much frequency. *claps hands. wipes together. opens upwards to show to cameras* I'm out."

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October 30, 2018, 03:34:53 AM

In other events, it looks like we may get to see how well bitcoin weathers a proper bear market in equities, for the first time.

What is your point?

Is the stock market and PMs expected to go down in the coming weeks/months?

Are you referring to any other assets, or currencies?

You are contemplating whether BTC is going to be correlated or not?  And, BTC along side with the performance of other cryptos?

Maybe in the short term all assets and currencies go down together?

It's looking more and more like the stock market is tanking. Today steered me onto the bearish side.

And yes, I'm curious how correlated bitcoin and the other markets may be.
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October 30, 2018, 03:35:55 AM

Way off topic but maybe Ibian or any other boat owners will know the answer...

I will be living on a seastead in a few months...about 15nm out to sea. The water is relatively calm here (mean wave height of about 1-2 feet). But of course throughout the year it could get up to 6-7 feet. The seastead design is capable of handling 15 feet waves so no problem.

My question is about my commuter boat. I just had to take Jet Ski off of my potential boats list because it is not allowed on the nearest island (where I would go to grab groceries and grab a bite).

I'm leaning toward a whaly dinghy like this:

This would be good because I could pull the outboard and hang that from the side of the seastead (likely could not keep a whole boat out of the water unless it is super light) and the boat could bounce around in any storm and be fine, even flipped upside down.

The worry I have is the ride on the open sea in a dinghy. I've been in a small dinghy in about 2-3 foot waves and it would not be a pleasant drive for 15 nm.

I could get something bigger I think I need to keep the criteria that the boat can flip over and not be that bad off (like if I wait until morning to come out and flip it back over).

I will have 3 mooring balls around the seastead far enough away for about a 20-30 foot boat.

Any suggestions?

I asked this on a boater forum only to be attacked for the concept of seasteading and the whole "you're gonna die!! zOMGz!! or <insert seastead jokes here>". No constructive assistance at all. The seastead builder is suggesting I just get a big boat...that it won't flip.

And no...there are no hurricanes/typhoons here.

15nm out you'll need something that is designed for coastal/ocean-going conditions

http://www.rayglass.co.nz/protector-rib/

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October 30, 2018, 03:36:03 AM

That's far enough that I'd get a twin engine boat. You don't want a dead engine midway through the trip, has happened to be four times now and it's a complete bitch even in a safe place with plenty of power and drinking water. And storms happen so get something big enough to handle that. Maybe get a closed cockpit too in case of rain. If nothing else for potential guests.

Ya...when I lived in Florida I became so frustrated that I figured I would never buy another boat with just one motor. I finally just gave up and bought a kayak. My favorite boat of them all.
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... or if you're a little nuts, this is like an overgrown jet-ski, with RIBs
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October 30, 2018, 03:57:46 AM

In other events, it looks like we may get to see how well bitcoin weathers a proper bear market in equities, for the first time.

What is your point?

Is the stock market and PMs expected to go down in the coming weeks/months?

Are you referring to any other assets, or currencies?

You are contemplating whether BTC is going to be correlated or not?  And, BTC along side with the performance of other cryptos?

Maybe in the short term all assets and currencies go down together?

It's looking more and more like the stock market is tanking. Today steered me onto the bearish side.

And yes, I'm curious how correlated bitcoin and the other markets may be.

You seem to have been leaning bearish for a few months now, and leaning is turning into steering... OMG!!!!  Stop hanging out with hairybeary, majormax and anunymint... They are bad influences on you.

Regarding correlation, I agree that it remains an interesting question - especially short-term - yet, I also believe that it may take several more years of bitcoin existence (perhaps 5 to 10 more years will give us even better perspective) to really attempt to analyze longer term correlations (or lack thereof), and surely many long term bitcoin bulls (presumably several of the short-term bitcoin bears in this thread are long term bullish about bitcoin), tentatively theorize that bitcoin is not going to be correlated with traditional dollar based assets - and likely instead, if anything, bitcoin is presumed to have a kind of reverse correlation with traditional dollar based assets....

Let's see, let's see...
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