For example, it seems that if I had some meaningful inclinations that the BTC price was going to go down before it goes up, I could describe my feelings, and it seems that I already have.
Several weeks ago, I said that I would not be surprised if BTC corrected below $7k, especially after we had peaked at $13,880 in such a short period of time. I cannot recall anyone with any serious credibility around here questioning my BTC bullishness, and I also felt NO need to assert my long term bullish qualifications.
That's the thing Jiggy, when someone makes a bullish post - there are no disputes or confrontations - ever.
On the other hand if a member (non-legendary usually) makes a bearish remark, he can find himself been accused of lying, manipulating or trying to influence newbies, & even as far as trying to discredit other members that might have the same opinion. That's what serveria did, and that's why I felt that I had to explain myself. Also that's why he is a liar in my book.
In any other case, of course there is
no need to explain anything regarding an opinion/position.
I did not have any problems with either serveria.com or Ivomm suggesting that the bear posts were too bearish, bordering on what trolls and shills do, and that the bear posts were assigning too high of probabilities on the down scenarios.... and also criticizing bear posts for suggesting that there has to be down before up, when many of us know that is not true.
We have seen it over and over and over in bitcoin in which no down is necessary before up, even while a whole bunch of folks are predicting it.. especially when we are in a bull market.
On the other hand, there is no doubt that down can happen, and it can even happen when we do not expect the down to happen, and even when we believe the down is over... I am not really sure what would have caused serveria.com to be considered as a liar, rather than just being considered as someone who was disagreeing with the certainty asserted in the bearishness of the posts, and the same seems to be true with ivomm's criticisms of the bear posts... Seems like fair game to me, fair game, and if some bear-ish posters got caught on the wrong end of that criticism, shouldn't they be able to take it instead of beginning to feel defensive, that might be more on them because they are allowing varying opinions of others on the interwebs to cause them to get emotional and resort to name calling rather than either ignoring the differing opinion or maybe attempting to justify themselves a bit more, if that might be a better way forward.
Just like ivomm said, I can see any poster that gets a bit pissed off when it seems that such certainty is being called with down that it could get fence sitters and nocoiners and newbies to wait when they should be buying... because even if the likelihood of down looks so damned good, many times newbies, fence sitters and nocoiners should just be establishing a plan and taking action rather than waiting, as some of the down before up predictions seem to encourage, even if down before up might end up being correct.
For example, it seems that if I had some meaningful inclinations that the BTC price was going to go down before it goes up, I could describe my feelings, and it seems that I already have.
Several weeks ago, I said that I would not be surprised if BTC corrected below $7k, especially after we had peaked at $13,880 in such a short period of time. I cannot recall anyone with any serious credibility around here questioning my BTC bullishness, and I also felt NO need to assert my long term bullish qualifications.
That's the thing Jiggy, when someone makes a bullish post - there are no disputes or confrontations - ever.
On the other hand if a member (non-legendary usually) makes a bearish remark, he can find himself been accused of lying, manipulating or trying to influence newbies, & even as far as trying to discredit other members that might have the same opinion. That's what serveria did, and that's why I felt that I had to explain myself. Also that's why he is a liar in my book.
In any other case, of course there is
no need to explain anything regarding an opinion/position.
From long experience of markets, I have noted that this sort of balance (where there is excessive critique of bearish opinion) is invariably a significantly bearish sign for the stock/market involved.
Could be, yet I don't believe that either ivomm or serveria were being excessive in their criticisms towards the bearish opinions, and like I said above, we might be getting too many newbies, nocoiners and fence sitters waiting when they should be buying and developing a plan for buying and taking a stake in BTC, for their own good.
Furthermore, bitcoin is not any kind of ordinary asset, so even if you have seen these kinds of sentiments in other markets, we are not in other markets, we are in bitcoin, which is nowhere near mature, and is likely in an exponential upswing of adoption and with a lot of networking affects that can cause the upswings to go way beyond any other asset class that we have witnessed to date - including the fact that the market is largely open to stupid ass newbie investment, versus the exclusive nature of a lot of other asset classes and markets that had built upon those kinds of different (qualified) investors.
That's the thing Jiggy, when someone makes a bullish post - there are no disputes or confrontations - ever.
On the other hand if a member (non-legendary usually) makes a bearish remark, he can find himself been accused of lying, manipulating or trying to influence newbies, & even as far as trying to discredit other members that might have the same opinion.
Heh, I remember JayJuanGee denounces me as a bear once, even tho my posts were actually bullish.
Hey. Are you asserting that you did not deserve denouncing?
And, now we are "good" buddies, more or less, no?
That's the thing Jiggy, when someone makes a bullish post - there are no disputes or confrontations - ever.
On the other hand if a member (non-legendary usually) makes a bearish remark, he can find himself been accused of lying, manipulating or trying to influence newbies, & even as far as trying to discredit other members that might have the same opinion.
Heh, I remember JayJuanGee denounces me as a bear once, even tho my posts were actually bullish.
Hey you. You are
denounced as a bear.
FTFY
That's the thing Jiggy, when someone makes a bullish post - there are no disputes or confrontations - ever.
On the other hand if a member (non-legendary usually) makes a bearish remark, he can find himself been accused of lying, manipulating or trying to influence newbies, & even as far as trying to discredit other members that might have the same opinion.
Heh, I remember JayJuanGee denounces me as a bear once, even tho my posts were actually bullish.
Several times JJG
once got annoyed at me for
my various dumbass behaviors including my being too bullish and calling bottom and declaring a new Bull Market in December 2018. We are cool now though,
and mostly
bordering on being the best of buds......
247 days into the new
BTCull Market and all is well.
FTFY
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