Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Lambie Slayer]

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/rabobank-dilemma-facing-china-truly-awful

"Yet for those market participants merrily saying this is “just a flu” (there are some) we also have 4,824, 15% of the total, in critical condition, and 638 deaths. Further, one arguably cannot measure the death-rate of any virus against the number of *currently* sick people: you surely measure it against those who eventually recover vs. those who don’t. Given we have 1,563 who have recovered vs. 638 dead (and 4,824 critical) that is a worrying ratio of 29% dead as an end-outcome, which is right up there with the MERS virus from a few years ago"

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[HairyMaclairy]

Clinical Characteristics of 138 Hospitalized Patients With 2019 Novel Coronavirus–Infected Pneumonia in Wuhan, China
7 February 2020
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761044

Key Points
Question  What are the clinical characteristics of hospitalized patients with 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV)–infected pneumonia (NCIP) in Wuhan, China?

Findings  In this single-center case series involving 138 patients with NCIP, 26% of patients required admission to the intensive care unit and 4.3% died. Presumed human-to-human hospital-associated transmission of 2019-nCoV was suspected in 41% of patients.

Meaning  In this case series in Wuhan, China, NCIP was frequently associated with presumed hospital-related transmission, 26% of patients required intensive care unit treatment, and mortality was 4.3%.

Please note re above I understand that the Chinese case definition requires a patient to have developed pneumonia to fall within the scope of the study, therefore the mortality rate is skewed high.  I don't know the rate at which pneumonia develops.  However, mortality rate is skewed down as further patients in intensive care will likely die. 

Epidemiological and clinical characteristics of 99 cases of 2019 novel coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan, China: a descriptive study
30 January 2020
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext

[HairyMaclairy]

If Justin Sun can censor txs on TRX, then yes, Justin Sun has undue control over TRX.

Your implication that Ayre has such control over BSV is just embarrassing ignorance.

ANY SHA256 miner can guarantee that BSV will live. All they need do is not cease mining.

Now go fuck yourself.

Well done Jbear.  I knew you had it in you. 

[Cryptotourist]

You sound salty. Poor thing.

Your moral compass sounds way off. Broken.
Poor(er) thing.

You know nothing of my morals.

OTOH, Excoriating someone merely because they have a conflicting opinion of the relative value of the details of otherwise similar technical implementations seems to be rather broken morality to me. But whatevs. You do you.

But I do.

We don't have conflicting opinions. We both like/value BTC & hodl a position with it.
But what I find morally broken in your posts, is your BSV shilling narrative. To make things worse, you do it here, on the WO.
Not to mention your marvelous triple axel moves when things get squeeze-y.

Yeah, I'll do me, thanks.

[Cryptotourist]

LS & JJG, JJG & LS...

Do I have to pull both of ya ears, to stop you from fighting on who's dick is longer?
You're both bulls, and bulls have a large enough penis anyhow.

Next time I catch you fighting, you're gonna have to show up with your parents, & write 1000 times "I'll be nice to my fellow bull".

[Globb0]

I just ran the calculations on my Bitmain S9i at 12TH and 1,000 watts. (one only, never to ROI) BTC Miner on www.slushpool.com

So it will TAKE 14 years and 2 months for me to make ONE Bitcoin on this puppy!

What boggles my mind is AFTER Halving (currently May 12th, 2020) https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

The same S9i (assuming difficulty the same..as in very unlikely, but still) it will take 28 years to make ONE BITCOIN!

As a result, I bought some BTC, just now, so prepare for a dump in BTC price! (This is how I roll!)

But a different way to have the halving hit you in the face in an obvious way!

Brad
                        

When you put it like that a high price makes more sense

[Globb0]

For anyone looking to really smoke some Hopium, here goes.

What if the Chinese Communist Party ends up losing power from the Coronavirus and transitions to a Democracy in the next few years. What would that mean for Bitcoin.

Ill tell you what it means. We will get full legalization of Bitcoin as a currency in China, a return of Chinese Bitcoin exchanges, a Chinese Bitcoin ETF, and much more.

Percent probability of China suddenly going democratic?



Ultra ultra low?

[Globb0]

In my opinion it is this:

It is one thing to find an alternative protocol to Bitcoin interesting, or believe in it as an investment.

I don't agree with this view, but people have the right to make choices, even if they ultimately prove to be wrong.  Live and let live.

However, going so far as refusing to condemn the objectively indefensible, places someone beyond the possibility of respect.  A fellow traveler ceases to be a friend, which is a shame.

Craig Wright's lack of principles and honesty is objectively indefensible.  This has been proven in a court of law.  He has lied under oath; it is not unreasonable to conclude he lives a tissue of lies.

When any man is obviously of sound mind and intelligent, but still disregards the obvious and will not condemn this plainly malignant, transparent liar, one can only conclude he is either; as corrupt as the man he defends, too egotistical, or too weak and foolish to look in the mirror and admit that he might be wrong.

And again, you conflate my support of BSV with support of CSW. Just no.

Dashjr has stated it is legitimate to kill all non-xtians. Does that taint all of BTC? No. For the person and the coin are two different things.

Do you think TRX and Justin Sun are two different things? Do you think TRX is not tainted by Justin?

If you believe that, then I have some TRX to sell you.  

There are plenty of reasons to completely ignore TRX. So I do.

Irrelevant false equivalence is irrelevant.

“I don’t like your question because I can’t answer it truthfully without revealing my corruption so I am going to pretend that I am above answering it”.

Have you considered running for office?

Don’t be a pussy.  Answer the question. Yes or No.

I answered the question. TRX is irrelevant to me. I can't be bothered to spend the time to look into it. Perhaps you have infinite amounts of free time on your hands. I do not.

Don’t pretend ignorance of Justin Sun and TRX - it’s completely transparent  You always run away from hard questions.

Stop being a pussy and answer the question.   Can Justin Sun be separated from TRX.  Yes or No.  

Go fuck yourself. I have no idea, and I can't be arsed to look into it.

But maybe we can figure it out together. What control does Justin Sun have over TRX? For example, can he censor transactions?

Yes.  Justin Sun can censor transactions the same way Calvin Ayre can



Stop deflecting and running away from the question.  Answer the question.  Yes or No.  

If Justin Sun can censor txs on TRX, then yes, Justin Sun has undue control over TRX.

Your implication that Ayre has such control over BSV is just embarrassing ignorance.

ANY SHA256 miner can guarantee that BSV will live. All they need do is not cease mining.

Now go fuck yourself.

I thought again maybe wrongly they had servers ready to go restoring the chain if they need to roll it back? that sounds to me like a yes, even if it is a defensive measure

[Globb0]

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-china-dispatches-bleach-trucks-to-spray-down-cities-2020-2

Just getting weirder and weirder out in Communistland. Dont think for one minute that this isnt cosmic punishment for being hostile to Bitcoin. CCP is going down and probably sooner rather than later.

https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1225962215691497472 video of trucks spraying down the city

That screamed propaganda video, look we are mighty. Our big trucks can crush virus.

Always a staged moment is captured

[El duderino_]

About to break AYH ??



Stifler back in bizzz

[Last of the V8s]

https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/1225918769882636290?s=20

  actually making some sense; on masks

[HairyMaclairy]

Five British nationals including a child have been diagnosed with the coronavirus in France, after staying in the same ski chalet and coming into contact with a Briton who had been in Singapore, the French health minister said.
Agnès Buzyn said none of the patients were in a serious condition.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/08/coronavirus-five-new-cases-in-france-are-british-nationals

[Arriemoller]

naah

10K Tuesday or Wednesday

Yep, around Feb 12th, if this channel holds up:

Jupiter9?  Is that you?

Nope. If i were him, i'd be like:
Beware! "2020/02/20"...important date, the prophet of blah had his first ejaculation on a 20th feb. too, the prove is, it's written in the stars of the electric universe.

Or similar...

Try harder


EDIT: Good night at $9.794 #thisissomehint

Are you going to be an asshole in this inkarnation as well?

[Arriemoller]

You sound salty. Poor thing.

Your moral compass sounds way off. Broken.
Poor(er) thing.

You know nothing of my morals.

OTOH, Excoriating someone merely because they have a conflicting opinion of the relative value of the details of otherwise similar technical implementations seems to be rather broken morality to me. But whatevs. You do you.

Your morals, or lack thereof, are clear to anyone who reads your posts.

[El duderino_]

For me personal this was one of the best BTC-TA-chart I have ever seen, can someone update it please with where we are or something...?

[Last of the V8s]

-Hairy there finally with some fairly up to date news
-jojo has other fora
-Paashaas disappearance
-El duderino_ return
-Arriemoller brings it
-Globb0 smashes it

[d_eddie]

For anyone looking to really smoke some Hopium, here goes.

What if the Chinese Communist Party ends up losing power from the Coronavirus and transitions to a Democracy in the next few years. What would that mean for Bitcoin.

Ill tell you what it means. We will get full legalization of Bitcoin as a currency in China, a return of Chinese Bitcoin exchanges, a Chinese Bitcoin ETF, and much more.

Percent probability of China suddenly going democratic?

Ultra ultra low?

In the ballpark of 1.034%
(extra digits are for JJG)

[Icygreen]

This podcast comes as one of the better ones in Peter McCormick's beginner series. With Travis Kling, the guy has some very sobering views on Bitcoin and generally well rounded approach. Makes plenty of strong points and historical references. Interesting opinions on bitcoin's largest hurdles. Easy to see macro and global economics are his deep passion and interests.  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=khp3wG55wME

[Arriemoller]

Clinical Characteristics of 138 Hospitalized Patients With 2019 Novel Coronavirus–Infected Pneumonia in Wuhan, China
7 February 2020
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761044

Key Points
Question  What are the clinical characteristics of hospitalized patients with 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV)–infected pneumonia (NCIP) in Wuhan, China?

Findings  In this single-center case series involving 138 patients with NCIP, 26% of patients required admission to the intensive care unit and 4.3% died. Presumed human-to-human hospital-associated transmission of 2019-nCoV was suspected in 41% of patients.

Meaning  In this case series in Wuhan, China, NCIP was frequently associated with presumed hospital-related transmission, 26% of patients required intensive care unit treatment, and mortality was 4.3%.

Please note re above I understand that the Chinese case definition requires a patient to have developed pneumonia to fall within the scope of the study, therefore the mortality rate is skewed high.  I don't know the rate at which pneumonia develops.  However, mortality rate is skewed down as further patients in intensive care will likely die. 

Epidemiological and clinical characteristics of 99 cases of 2019 novel coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan, China: a descriptive study
30 January 2020
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext

What is more interesting to me is the mortality/fatality rates among non Asians.
Since Asians have five times the number of receptors in their lungs for this virus then others, it would make sense that they have a lot more sick and dead then the rest of the world, that would also explain why they are taking such draconic measures to contain the virus, while the west is a lot more laid back.

[Last of the V8s]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwEFa5NW2k Peterson Family Update - February 2020

His daughter updates us on his state of health.
Why she doesn't need a shirt to do so is perhaps a question for another time.

Especially as this may be pretty raw and relevant for one of our popular temporarily absent bros.