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November 12, 2020, 06:20:52 AM

whatup WO boyz..

hope to see this happen sooner than we wish


So you're trying to say that these shitcoin events are big and BTC @16k is nothing? Are you sure you're in the correct thread?  Angry
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November 12, 2020, 06:20:53 AM

This guy is so far behind that it's comical!

 https://www.coindesk.com/bridgewaters-dalio-sees-governments-banning-bitcoin-should-it-become-material

"Ray Dalio, the founder and co-chairman of Bridgewater Associates, the world’s largest hedge fund, said he sees three main problems with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies that will limit their future, including that governments will “outlaw” them should they start to become “material.”"

I watched that about three minute clip with Dalio.


It seems Dalio still wants to fail conservatively rather that succeed differently when it comes to Bitcoin.

He’ll turn around soon enough  Cool

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November 12, 2020, 06:39:41 AM

What follows intersects a point about OOM’s alleged “atheism”, which I had intended to cover in re discussion of the agenda to devalue the elderly; too bad these wordy-man posts take time...

inb4 Timothy Leary pops up with an obsessive rehash of MKULTRA agitprop about how I cannot judge drug use, unless I souse my own brain in drugs that destroy powers of sound judgment.  /logic

With the overt glorification of self-induced extreme mental illness hereby highlighted—and oh, MKULTRA was an astounding success, you drugged-out egoless meat-robot who will never threaten the powerful:
I only went through ego death one time on LSD, which gave me some work to do about my personality and life as well, but in the end it turned out to be the very best that could happen to me.
So, people condemning drugs, because of "reasons", just don't know what they are missing.
It's all in the usage, like with guns. Nobody has to use em, but if only used for (ethical) goodness, nobody would be afraid of them either.

How would we know if our ego is too strong and/or needs to be put in check?

OutOfMemory has retained an essentially Christian Weltanschauung:  He rejects fairytales about the big man in the sky, but he nonetheless parrots godly condemnations of the deadly sins of Pride, Vanity, and even Wrath.  —On all such counts, I am a happy sinner!

Wrath, o goddess sing...’

This is not uncommon.  Indeed, most so-called “atheists” retain by cultural residue an irrational worldview and morality, which is all the more irrational for the rejection of its only plausible basis:  The commandments of a god who contradicts and overrules the observed laws of nature.

  • “Secular humanism” is an attempt to reconstruct liberal Christian morality as an ostensibly non-Christian ethical system.
  • Sorry, theymos. Smiley
    The so-called “Singularity” is a religious eschatology for irrational fanatics who have swapped faith in gods for faith in technocracy.  They want a god from a machine, a literal deus ex machina to save them from their own follies.
  • Communism is second-century primitive Christianity without Jesus.
    The true “Second Coming” was Karl Marx, who reformed the original second-century dogmata of the faith on a new foundation.  In the Age of Science, fairytales became unsustainable, and rather embarrassing.  The essence of Communism is a synthesis of Sermon on the Mount 2.0, Post French Revolutionary Edition, with the economic worldview of Capitalism—wherefore the Communist Bible is titled, Capital.
    The Communist worldview is fundamentally, unavoidably compatible with the Christian worldview.
    —Surely, alas, Solzhenitsyn would object to this:  I argue that from first principles, it is Tolstoi’s Christian worldview that provides a fertile soil for Communism.
  • Drug users are the most susceptible to religious ideations, for the obvious reason!  Indeed, there is a credible theory that Christianity was proximately caused by the use of Amanita muscaria.  (I don’t want to get too far into that; I consider the evidence to be tantalizing, but not quite sufficient to pronounce that an historical fact.)
    No doubt more than a few people would call me “ignorant” of Jesus.

    The inversion of reality to proclaim inferiority and irrationality as superior knowledge is—typical of a certain type.  And there is a pretty good historical hypothesis that much religiosity has been caused by “naturally occurring” drugs—much more Amanita muscaria than psilocybin.  Hmmm.

    I won’t deign seriously to argue with your druggie religion any more than I debate Christian evangelicals.
  • I should add that the so-called “Golden Rule” is an irrationality embraced by many religions.  Of course, the “Golden Rule” is exactly backwards:  It is irrational to “treat others how you want to be treated”.  Retributive “tit-for-tat” treatment of others is rational.

    I try to improve on tit-for-tat:  If someone does good to me, then I strive to return better—if I can, which is not always within my ability.  If someone does bad to me, then I pass judgment without even the slightest hint of Christian mercy.
  • Etc...

My ethical system does not derive from Christianity.

I will quote “chapter and verse” from the greatest ethicist of the past two thousand years.

Quote from: Nietzsche, The Antichrist
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What is good?— Whatever augments the feeling of power, the will to power, power itself, in man.

What is evil?— Whatever springs from weakness.

What is happiness?— The feeling that power increases— that resistance is overcome.

Not contentment, but more power; not peace at any price, but war; not virtue, but efficiency (virtue in the Renaissance sense, virtù, virtue free of moral acid).

The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity.  And one should help them to it.

What is more harmful than any vice?— Practical sympathy for the botched and the weak— Christianity...

By the way, I don’t think that Lauda wholly agreed with me; but she at least partly did:

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Quote from: Friedrich Nietzsche, “Twilight of the Idols”
I reduce a principle to a formula.  Every naturalism in morality—that is, every healthy morality—is dominated by an instinct of life, some commandment of life is fulfilled by a determinate canon of “shalt” and “shalt not”; some inhibition and hostile element on the path of life is thus removed.  Anti-natural morality—that is, almost every morality which has so far been taught, revered, and preached—turns, conversely, against the instincts of life: it is condemnation of these instincts, now secret, now outspoken and impudent.  When it says, “God looks at the heart,” it says No to both the lowest and the highest desires of life, and posits God as the enemy of life.  The saint in whom God delights is the ideal eunuch.  Life has come to an end where the “kingdom of God” begins.

The above-quoted passage succinctly explain’s OutOfMemory’s fear of the “ego”.  Whereas only brain damage from long-term hallucinatory drug abuse could explain this perfect inversion of reality:

Boldface is OutOfMemory’s:
Drugs tell no truths.  They do not “expand” consciousness, but dissolve it.  They can turn you into a superstitious nitwit, with voluntarily self-inflicted mental retardation plus schizophrenia.  That is all.

[...]

Now, the ego, the mental entity that keeps talking trash and showing you pictures of future and the past, keeps you from learning and developing your spirit (aka. higher self, or whatever one may call it), which is often reffered to as (uncontrolled) "inner dialog", clearly is a sign of (common) psychosis. The root of many mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, violent thoughts/behaviour, many other bad manifestations.
Now tell me, isn't that a clear sign of psychosis?
You and your likes want to tell me who is the retarded, schizophrenic type here? LOL
Eh...
Dunning-Kruger rather well explains the conceits of druggies about drugs—not so much why they rationalize (which is obvious), but why they cannot see through their own transparent foolishness.  Well, um, they do drugs.  Which wreck the brain.  Duh.

It may also explain just how the Hell he failed to notice that I am far less a Christian than he is (LOL), and also failed to notice that I do indeed support druggies’ right to ruin themselves.

With restoration in the internal quote of important context that OutOfMemory snipped:
Don’t get me wrong.  Self-harm and suicide are absolute rights, abrogated only by the worst of slave states.  The solution to drug abuse is to give users more drugs; it is cleansing, and even eugenic.

...self-limiting problem...

Have a nice trip! ☠

[...]
Congratulations. But stop talking about "freedom" then.

It was far from the first time that I have supported freedom!

Druggies, don’t whine.  I am supporting your freedom to kill yourselves!

Anyway, my point hereby is not to belabour the obvious about drugs, but rather, to illustrate by example the usual course of one who leaps from one irrational faith to another.  Most arguments between Christians and “atheists” are only sectarian debates between votaries of the same essential spirit.  Real atheists are rare—for the universe is a terrifying place; it requires exceptional courage to follow naturalistic rationalism all the way to its logical conclusions.


Dear Talking Monkeys:

Please get it through your thick primate skulls that you are alone in the universe, you are all going to die, there is no life beyond this world, and nothing whatsoever will remain of you if you do not safeguard your posterity.
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November 12, 2020, 06:47:55 AM
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whatup WO boyz..

hope to see this happen sooner than we wish


So you're trying to say that these shitcoin events are big and BTC @16k is nothing? Are you sure you're in the correct thread?  Angry

Nah you got me wrong. They look like they are big and this will be pushed through some media sites aswell but the crypto community expose the real big event which is in that case to hit 16k.
The meme should look as if all other events are trivial towards the 16k Tongue Sorry for the confusion
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November 12, 2020, 07:19:59 AM

  too bad these wordy-man posts take time...

Oh?

You cannot just throw down walls of text within a matter of a wee-few minutes?  Shocked Shocked 

Must be a lot more taxing to rise to wordy-man wannabe status than many mere mortal normies would conjecture?

TLDR:
Sometimes sucks carrying out requisites of an actual rather than a wannabe wordy-man. 

Go figure, ur lil selfie!!!    Tongue
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wtf why are we still under $20k!?!? This shall not stand
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November 12, 2020, 08:09:53 AM

wtf why are we still under $20k!?!? This shall not stand

Just be patient. First wait till Bitcoin breaks the $6k barrier. The ATH will come sooner or later.
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November 12, 2020, 08:19:36 AM

New wordy man is far more interesting than old wordy man.

Also observing $16k incoming.
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November 12, 2020, 08:28:53 AM

 too bad these wordy-man posts take time...

Oh?

You cannot just throw down walls of text within a matter of a wee-few minutes?  Shocked Shocked  

Must be a lot more taxing to rise to wordy-man wannabe status than many mere mortal normies would conjecture?

TLDR:
Sometimes sucks carrying out requisites of an actual rather than a wannabe wordy-man.  

Go figure, ur lil selfie!!!    Tongue

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Writes TLDR, after two consecutive sentences. Arrogance algo, needs tweaking.



New wordy man is far more interesting than old wordy man.

Shhh, don't rub it in. Grin
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November 12, 2020, 09:13:02 AM


It's not insider trading if it's filed according to the rules. Keeping it a secret and then sell on the insider news would have been insider trading.

Of course it is not insider trading as the sale was part of a selling program prearranged since a long time.
Those guys “don’t go to the bathroom without a plan” and for sure the move was authorised by a bunch of laser to make sure it didn’t break any rule.

The trick here is to make the announcement at the right time: just before the prearranged sale.

This a sorcery that can be done only by an handful top tier managers.
Just remember one of the best in this class, Sergio Marchionne who made 13 millions announcing an IPO the day before the expiry of his stock options:

Marchionne Gains $13 Million With Post-Ferrari Stock Sale

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MILAN (Bloomberg) -- Fiat Chrysler Automobiles CEO Sergio Marchionne made about 10.7 million euros ($13.4 million) from a surge in the automaker's share price after he announced a plan to spin off Ferrari.

Marchionne exercised options for 6.25 million Fiat Chrysler shares on Oct. 30 and sold that amount of shares by Oct. 31. He did the same for an equal amount of stock in CNH Industrial NV, the truck and tractor maker that was previously part of the Fiat group.

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Fiat Chrysler shares in Milan surged 13 percent on Oct. 29 after the company announced plans to sell 10 percent of the Ferrari super-car brand to investors and distribute the rest of its holding to its own shareholders.


He walked off insider trading accusation clean as a baby’s butt. In the article an esplicative picture of him addressing SEC officials “what do you want from me”?
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Nullius, i went through your post several times, but i could not extract any sense out of it
I don't even know why you're highlighting the quote "ego death" and by no means refer to that in your answer in any logical way.
I think you may reveal to which concept of "ego" (psychological, religious or philosophical) you even refer to.

Then you mix up old quotes, with no contextual connection, just to reveal... (exactly, what?)

And this, my friend, is a perfect example of a "strong ego" (quoted JJG), in fact it seems even overpowered.
It's producing buildings full of theories that seek prove through itself. The psychologists call this projection, the yogi call it "the law of attraction".
You seemt to be perfectly being fooled by your brilliant, intelligent mind which forms the model of the religious ego.

Now, when i take the output of my "mind", it's not functioning different in any way, but i got AWARE of the process. I got aware through meditation and, most important, through my beforementioned ego death experience. It's the absence of all thought, judgement and identity. Only observing the peaceful, quiet nothing. Being aware that you are, but not who/what you are. If i'd be really believe in christianity, i'd call it the soul, i guess. But that's just a NAME for an IDEA.
 
What could be more atheistic than that?

Let that sink in, even just try to ignore your reactive thought chatter after reading this and try to answer in a contextual way.
You believe in your judgements, right? I accept that.
But how can you PROVE that what you think is REAL? (-EDIT- or: valid for everybody)
See, you can't, even if you try as hard AF.
Because it's only your individual reality.
To go on: You are believing your reality.


And we both have to agree that we don't believe that REALITY is created by some superpower, god, jehowa, allah or bender rodriguez, we definitely are both atheists.

So what's the fucking fuzz all about?

If everything i did was hurting you in your pride (aka. EGO), i feel sorry for that. So please forgive me (again, iirc)!
If you can't, i won't make it my problem, cause it's yours. Thanks  Grin

On topic: bitcoin is going over $100k, ...or it's not.

EDIT2: I see the corn over $16k again.

[rocket.gif]

 I have to leave, spend the rest of the day trying to FEEL more than THINKING. Never did any harm to me.
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Insider trading or not that's disgusting.
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November 12, 2020, 09:52:02 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, we got him .

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