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November 12, 2020, 06:13:44 PM

Fuck.

Shit.

Just... fuck.

EDIT: I'm always an awful ball of anxiety-ridden energy whenever I have orders in play, and that dip below $16k USD/BTC just kicked me in the nuts. Defenses are lower than normal today.

Also, may or may not have micro-dosed again, but a little higher this time...

The same day as today, but in 2019 we were at 8,800, now we fight at 16,000
You have to look further, not look every hour Wink
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November 12, 2020, 06:23:17 PM
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New wordy man is far more interesting than old wordy man.

Also observing $16k incoming.

I would down vote this, but down voting is not allowed.



Don't cry. There is only one wordy man (for me).
Garbage wanna-b-wordy man can't reach you Cheesy

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Fair enough.

New wordy man is far more interesting than old wordy man.

Also observing $16k incoming.

There is something to be said about consistency.

Which one is more (less) consistent?  Asking for a friend.
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November 12, 2020, 06:33:55 PM

At the risk of jinxing it I'm pretty stoked that we seem to be holding around $16k so far. Though to be honest you'd think the paypal news would have had more influence if hodlers really were in control. The world needs tarders too I guess to misquote one of the world's most important philosophers.
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November 12, 2020, 06:34:59 PM

Sell order placed at $16,250.

Off to run errands and do IRL drudgery...


Excited for both yourself and Rick! Normally not watching walls, but maybe we get there before you can panic cancel: watching $16055, back up again after a little dip to $15905.
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November 12, 2020, 06:48:17 PM

New wordy man is far more interesting than old wordy man.

Also observing $16k incoming.

 It's just novel - like the covid19 - give it a while  Wink
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November 12, 2020, 06:51:01 PM

The folks who desire a lifestyle of “hookers, Lambos, and blow” are indistinguishable from nihilists.  Drug addicts are the worst of applied practical nihilists.

Needs video.  Some of the most beautiful hookers that I have ever seen in a fucking Youtube video, cocaine by the kilo bag, and—well, not a Lambo, but a classic sports car* in mint condition.  And a yacht.

(* Which one, WO automobile enthusiasts?)

Watch to the end.  Life is so cheap.  (And the lyrics lampoon people with cheap lives on social media!  ЛOЛ.)  Have a nice trip!  Bon voyage!

Protip:  If nullius drops a Youtube link, it is probably not stupid.


^ So NULL is not nothing, right?  Roll Eyes

So you are done with this discussion, right?  I am glad that you are not; so I have updated my prior reply for you.

Do you even code?

Thus spake the know-nothing who did not get this C language joke:

Code: (The Holy Number of Nullianity)
*(long long unsigned int*)NULL

Try it!  Language lawyers will attest that it is perfectly correct C, which (like the rest of my posts) you are unable to read.  You may also test empirically that it compiles...

Code: (crash.c)
#include <stddef.h>

int
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return (*(long long unsigned int*)NULL);
}

...and it runs!

Code:
$ cc -o crash crash.c
$ ./crash
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

I will not explain it to people who obviously don’t code.



Thanks so much for that thrilling lesson in classical philology.  I had no idea!  Roll Eyes


^^ to the link to that post.
You know the fbi used posts from here for the "you can't catch me EvEr! Ulrich" case right?

Are you high?  I mean, right now.  On something that induces paranoid ideations.
Edit:  Retracted with a semi-apology, because what you said could be read two ways.  I may have misread it—maybe.  FYI, the infestation of the Internet with provocateurs (OP on that thread?) promoting “Four Horsemen of the Cryptocalypse” anti-Bitcoin propaganda is the reason why, at “Newbie” rank, I made sure to express my opinion of drugs unequivocally.

Because it is perfectly logical that an undercover cop would announce that he dislikes drugs. 🤔

Oh, and an undercover cop (—best of all, an agent provocateur—) would never want to encourage you to engage in illegal activities and brag them—as seen in that shitshow exchange of braggart drug stories a few days ago, which I’m sure was neatly archived by various police agencies.  (Don’t bother deleting your posts, idiots.)

Opsec protip #1:  If you engage in illegal activity, DO NOT TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.  (← Something that an undercover cop would be unlikely to say.)

Opsec protip #NULL:  Do not do illegal activity.  (← And avoid like plague anybody on the Internet who tries to chat you up about illegal activity; it reeks of agent provocateur bent on entrapment.)  I don’t do illegal things.  Not because I give a fuck about the law, but just because most illegal activities are anyway undesirable to me.  If drugs were perfectly legal, I wouldn’t do them.  In saner times, before the birth of modern drug laws and its twin, modern drug culture, drugs were freely available—and most people didn’t do them!


Mixing politics and religion is a bad idea, history has shown it and unfortunately it continues to do so

Are you completely illiterate?  (No, wait—don’t answer that.)  Who the fuck is advocating religion here?


I have seen those that scream the loudest about their freedom work the hardest to curb others freedoms.
Leaving no reasonable doubt that you were actually talking about me:
New wordy man is far more interesting than old wordy man.
There is something to be said about consistency.
I have seen those that scream the loudest about their freedom work the hardest to [get their nanny government to] curb others freedoms.
FTFY

I challenge you to back up your nonsense:  Show me even one post where I have ever supported the so-called “War on Drugs” in any way.

You know who loves the War on Drugs?  Murican answer, hereby apropos:

  • The CIA.  World-class dope dealers—plus, there’s that MKULTRA thing which you should probably look into...
  • The FBI.  More more bigger budgets!
  • The NSA.  It is a tailor-made excuse for mass-surveillance.
  • Your local police.  The War on Drugs means that they get snazzy tanks and military rifles.  Would life be any fun without SWAT teams?
  • The DEA.  Which would not exist without the “War on Drugs”.  DEA agents need jobs, too!  —By the way, geniuses, why the fuck do you suppose that the DEA closely supported the making of Breaking Bad, a television show that glorified drugs whilst pretending to moralize against them?  Check the credits, and read up on the making of the show; it is two-faced, fork-tongued DEA propaganda, from start to finish.
  • DARE.  As you yourself noted, Hueristic—
    Option A:  Turn your kids into little spies and snitches.

    Brainwashing children to rat out their parents for political “crimes” is 100% pure, unadulterated Communism.

    DARE Scare: Turning Children Into Informants?
    http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/dare4.htm
    —DARE brainwashes into the general habit of ratting out their parents—a habit which the State then exploits as generally applicable to all sorts of other things, too.
  • Drug culture addicts.  It gives them a rebellious way to stick it to The Man—right before The Man sticks it back to them harder!

A rule of practical politics in the modern world:  The ever-expanding State loves to promote the exact problems that it pretends to solve.

Whereas Hueristic, et al., you seem to be against my freedom to think for myself.  I sincerely think that drugs are bad.  I have good reasons for that.  I will not pretend otherwise, and I will not shut up.  I do not follow any herd—also not your herd.  Fuck peer pressure:  I am peerless.

* nullius is nobody’s peer.

Your freedom to ruin yourself as you please does not impose on me a positive duty to condone it.

I have seen those that scream the loudest about their freedom work the hardest to curb others freedoms.


My personal political manifesto:
Mine is the anarchy of the few...  It is the anarchy of those who love order, and impose order first on themselves:  They who live by honour and not law.  They must become laws unto themselves.

Don’t reject authority:  Be your own authority.

Or:  Escaping the tyranny of the State by rejecting all authority, and even common sense, is like escaping the tyranny of the banks by rejecting all money, and even all economic activity.  Be your own bank.
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New wordy man is far more interesting than old wordy man.

Also observing $16k incoming.

There is something to be said about consistency.

Which one is more (less) consistent?  Asking for a friend.

Lets not try to answer questions about the fabric of time and space in haste.

This is a Conundrum that should be analyzed annually as new data is observed and correlated.




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November 12, 2020, 06:56:42 PM

Sell order placed at $16,250.

Off to run errands and do IRL drudgery...

Bird in the hand and all that but I’m not selling anything this year
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November 12, 2020, 06:57:09 PM

...but maybe we get there before you can panic cancel

Not... gonna... panic... cancel...

Neutron... star... testicles... HODLing...

Bird in the hand and all that but I’m not selling anything this year

I want to sell ahead of any possible Biden 60% tax-hike shit-fuckery.
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November 12, 2020, 07:13:36 PM

Let’s pretend Biden doubles CGT.  Which isn’t going to happen

You will still be better off selling next year.  

Also, Biden isn’t going to do shit on taxes.  He’s got bigger fights on his hands like fixing Covid.  
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November 12, 2020, 07:15:49 PM

You will still be better off selling next year.  

It's a good thing I have more to sell next year then, eh ?

More interested in getting Rick retired early, buying a nice 50-100 acre parcel of land, and start building something on it, sooner-than-later.
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November 12, 2020, 07:18:17 PM
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I have the same concerns, Bob.

UK CGT is currently 20%.
There are rumours next April the UK Gov will increase it to be aligned with the normal tax rate for high earners (salaried) which is 45%.

I am really & I mean really not cool with paying 45% CGT. If they raise it that much I will be looking to emigrate.
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November 12, 2020, 07:20:12 PM

You will still be better off selling next year.  

It's a good thing I have more to sell next year then, eh ?

More interested in getting Rick retired early, buying a nice 50-100 acre parcel of land, and start building something on it, sooner-than-later.

Just if i eventually missed it: You won't sell all your coins in near future, will you?
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Strap yourself in for retail FOMO buyers:


Nov 12, 2020
PayPal Removes Waitlist (U.S.) for New Crypto Service, Boosts Weekly Purchase Limit to $20K

https://www.coindesk.com/paypal-removes-waitlist-for-new-crypto-service
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November 12, 2020, 07:24:27 PM

You will still be better off selling next year.  

It's a good thing I have more to sell next year then, eh ?

More interested in getting Rick retired early, buying a nice 50-100 acre parcel of land, and start building something on it, sooner-than-later.

You guys have hung on for this long and I have to respect that. 
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Biden isn’t going to do shit on taxes.

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November 12, 2020, 07:27:51 PM

Let’s pretend Biden doubles CGT.  Which isn’t going to happen

You will still be better off selling next year.  

Also, Biden isn’t going to do shit on taxes.  He’s got bigger fights on his hands like fixing Covid.  

exactly...it has to be 85% cap gains on 100K..20% cap gains on 16K (if your cost is close to zero) is 3.8K, 12.2k profit.
If btc is 100K, tax has to be 88% to get the same profit. Zero chance for such tax and any tax higher than maybe 30% or so.
30% is possible...I paid 39.7% cap gains in 2000. That was a howler (forgot about short term vs long term when trading  Cheesy)
BTW, I raised some cash from stonks. We might dip from here until spring, imho.
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Just if i eventually missed it: You won't sell all your coins in near future, will you?

Plan on passing my Bitcoin HODLings onto my nieces and nephews upon my passing; rolling all that into the estate.

Have more BTC than Rick and I could reasonably blow in a lifetime (No delusions of grandeur here); provided we manage living to a ripe, old age - I, for one, plan to at least be a centenarian.

I would be genuinely surprised if I liquidate more than 300 BTC within my lifetime, after this latest move.
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November 12, 2020, 07:29:18 PM

New wordy man is far more interesting than old wordy man.
There is something to be said about consistency.

Which one is more (less) consistent?  Asking for a friend.

Lets not try to answer questions about the fabric of time and space in haste.

This is a Conundrum that should be analyzed annually as new data is observed and correlated.

A conundrum, indeed:  One so consistent in principle, he will fight to the death for the privacy and anonymity that let you zombify and slowly kill yourself in secret. Cheesy

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analyzed... as new data is observed and correlated.

Am I now under surveillance? Shocked
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