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May 13, 2017, 10:32:26 AM
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Hi Apneal;
Today I received one more new sapphire (11265-01-20G) Hynix I used the '777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17' straps and was able to hit 29.2(1100/2150), then I raised to (1200/2150) and it could hit 30.6 but the gpu-z power draw is 115-116W, I flashed again with 950mV@2000 but there is no change. please advise me how to reduce that I am newbie for voltage issues.
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May 13, 2017, 10:57:27 AM
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6x Sapphire RX570 Nitro+ 4GB in action ( 1200/2050@920mV core on all cards )
Just testing at the moment, still far from optimal.
The rig is doing about 940W dual mining and 750W@ 30Mh/s ETH each, which is still high, need to optimize further.
Also, tried one card on 2100Mhz memory, and its doing 30.5Mh/s ETH  Cheesy

Anyone know, why i cant change voltage on memory? Claymore -mvdcc is not working, also no memory voltage in AB? What gives?



Hi,

which straps do you use?

I have same cards with same memory and i can't pass 27 Mh/s

Thx for your help
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May 13, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
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Couple of questions for you guys. I initially prefer nitro+ rx470 but there's no stock available so i'm now in the market for rx570 instead.  Which do you think is better in terms of potential hashrate?
1. 4gb or 8gb?
2. Pulse or Nitro or nitro+?
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May 13, 2017, 12:16:35 PM
Last edit: May 13, 2017, 01:40:10 PM by Gacek
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Hello,

I have Sapphire Pulse RX580 8 GB and there's a problem. I have pasted 777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17 into 2:1750, 2:2000 and 2:2250. After the reboot it's hashing and showing:
http://imgur.com/a/7TW6D

Clocks set in Trixx 1200/2000.

I have already tried to copy 2:1750 straps but it didn;t work.

I can't handle it and it's getting me frustrated. I would be very grateful for any help.

EDIT:
After flashing the original bios it still makes the same error. Any ideas?
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May 13, 2017, 01:48:55 PM
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Hello,

I have Sapphire Pulse RX580 8 GB and there's a problem. I have pasted 777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17 into 2:1750, 2:2000 and 2:2250. After the reboot it's hashing and showing:
http://imgur.com/a/7TW6D

Clocks set in Trixx 1200/2000.

I have already tried to copy 2:1750 straps but it didn;t work.

I can't handle it and it's getting me frustrated. I would be very grateful for any help.

EDIT:
After flashing the original bios it still makes the same error. Any ideas?

Send me your bios i will take a look
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May 13, 2017, 02:20:45 PM
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Thank you for your time. I don't get this right now...

Original bios:
https://ufile.io/5quwv

Moded bios:
https://ufile.io/rw4in

Thank you in advance.
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May 13, 2017, 05:21:44 PM
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A few GPU tests Sapphire 5xx. A few successes, but one problem.

I use:

Asus Z270F Strix - Without any problems, 7 GPUs work or MSI Z270-A Pro 6 GPU ready, I have tried, I currently operate about 10 Rigs without problem (RX 4xx)

PolarisEditor by jaschaknack - https://github.com/jaschaknack/PolarisBiosEditor/tree/110aa3a5a0aeafe16bb0a96b53583e7e8e77999b
SRBPolaris - BIOS editor
AtiFlash 2,74
atikmdag-patcher-1.4.5
Wattool o.92 does not function


Sapphire 570 4GB Nitro+ Hynix - strap 1750 - 1100/2050/-96mv-gpu/+20powertarget = 29,3MHs @ cca 156 on the wall

Sapphire 570 8GB Nitro+ Hynix - Strap 1750 - 1100/2100/-96mvgpu/+30powertarget = 29,6MHs

Sapphire 570 4GB Pulse Elpida - strap 1750 - 1100/1910/-96mv-gpu/+30powertarget = 24MHs @ cca 150-160 on the wall

Sapphire 580 8 GB Pulse Hynix - strap 1750 - 1100/2150/-96mv-gpu/+30powetarget = 27,3MHs @ Here I do not know exactly, a little more than 570, No more than 170

Sapphire 570 4GB Mini Elpida - strap 1750 - 1110/2040/-96mvgpu/30+target = 26,3-26,4 @ 164w on the wall = 169 USD newegg very nice

Sapphire 580 8GB Nitro+ - Hynix - Strap 1750 - 1100/2200/-96mvGPU/50powertarget = 27,8MHs


Hynix on 570 is better then Hynix on 580. Hynix on 570 timing 7777 @ 1750 but 580 hynix 999 @ 1750 but i have to check this because the problem is two different time sets 1: 1750 and 2: 1750 each for another set of memories.


This is my tests, But I have a little problem. The signature for the modified bios driver is ok. But it does not work at the same time 570 with 580 on one motherboard.

If the 4x 570 works and re-sign the driver, the 580 runs but does not run 570.

Simply, it works either it or it. It does not work together.

Does anyone have any advice or idea?

Maybe a new Atipatcher?

Can you share your BIOS settings or anything for MSI Z270-Pro A i cannot get it to work with 6 GPUs.  RX 570
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May 13, 2017, 06:56:02 PM
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i have the Sapphire PULSE ITX Radeon RX 570 4GD5 (elpida)

but results are not great, @ 1244 / 1900

27.7mh on eth  with 1425 traps   so just little more than my rx470 (27.2mh)
on zec  higher clock than the rx470 but not faster
on Cryptonight the fastest traps are 1375 for 698mh, 678 for1425 traps, but a lot slower than the rx470 what does 760mh with 1375 traps

i m so disappointed
I got 4 of them, all using 1500 straps:
2x 1100 / 2050 / 875 mV - 29.2 MH dual (~680MH DCR using -dcri 22), 28.8 solo, temps around 70C, 50% fan
1x 1100 / 2000 / 875 mV - was stable on 2050 but too hot for my liking
1x 1100 / 1950 / 925 mV - low asic, hot and unstable on lower voltage

For some reason solo mining is slower, I lose about 0.5 MH per card.

hum ok  i testest 1 of mine but it already was not stable at 1960 so i just keep it at 1900  same as my rx470's

i still did not undervolt yet , i had to use power limit because was using 1100w for 5x  and my psu is only 1000w

as i never undervolt before, i started with my 4x 470's ring (power limited to 720w before)
i put 950mv but that crash after coupe of minute, so now testing 975mv (15hours now)  for 670-680w  on eth
gonna flash my 2 other rx470 rings
i guess gonna use 975mv on my rx570 too (i keep the gpu clock higher than yours, because i do multi algorithm so need to do zec with higher gpu clock
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May 13, 2017, 07:43:52 PM
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Hello All.
I was able to get 6 x RX-500 series running on windows 10 x64. After two days the stupidest thing I tried worked  Grin.
1. use DDU to clean the PC from any previous drivers.
2. Disable 4G decoding so you can log into windows (only  for Z170,H170, etc.)
3. Extract older driver for RX 400 series in Drive C: (I use 16.9.2 )
4. Extract driver for RX 500 series in Drive C: (I use 17.4.3)
5. Copy and replace all content from "C:\AMD\Non-WHQL-Win10-64Bit-Radeon-Software-Crimson-16.9.2-Sep21\Packages\Drivers\Display\WT6A_INF\B307117"  to "C:\AMD\WHQL-Win7-64Bit-Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-17.4.3-Apr17\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\B313057" (Basically you copy the old driver over the new)
6. Install the VGA cards manually from Device manager in Windows pointing path to the new driver 17.4.3 in this case.
7. Reboot and enable 4G Decoding in Bios
8. Enjoy if it works for you.

You can try with different driver versions if they work for you. I`m happy whit the 16.9.2 for the moment but any driver that works whit 6 and more RX 400 series GPUs should work  Grin.

I know  that this solution sound stupid but it`s tested on 8 different rigs whit Asus Prime Z270-P and H270 Motherboards and works like a charm.
I`m pretty sure only handful of files need to be replaced but I don have the time to test more elegant solution.

Sorry for my English and grammar. Grin



Does it mean mobo BIOS must have disabling/enabling 4G decoding feature to run more than 5x GPU ?
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May 13, 2017, 08:03:11 PM
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Doing 30MH on the RX 570 Pulse with -200mv (775mv core voltage). Pulling 95 watts at the wall Cheesy

Probably something not right show some screens of gpu-z and hwi (memory errors) please

Sure thing...GPU3 is the 570 pulse card, been running like this for days had to restart the other day so thats why its "only" at 22 hours stable.


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May 13, 2017, 08:38:27 PM
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And no memory errors ? thats insane , thanks for posting btw.
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May 13, 2017, 09:48:26 PM
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Hey want to Build a Mining Rig with the RX570 / RX580 Cards.


Fund this two

SAPPHIRE PULSE RX 570 4GB MINING PERFORMANCE

Mining Performance

GPU/memo clock: 1130/2050
Ethereum: stock 24 Mh/s ; modded bios + oc  29-29.5Mh/s (Hynix)
Power Usage: N/A

What does the Hynix mean?


SAPPHIRE PULSE RX 570 ITX 4GB

Mining Performance

GPU/memo clock: 1100/1910 (Elpida)
Ethereum: stock 22.4 Mh/s ; bios mod + oc 30.5 Mh/s (dual)
Power Usage: 130w (power may be higher)

What does the Dual mean?


http://1stminingrig.com/are-the-rx570-and-rx580-profitable-mining-performance-review/

What are the Best Brands?


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May 14, 2017, 06:36:55 AM
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Hey want to Build a Mining Rig with the RX570 / RX580 Cards.


Fund this two

SAPPHIRE PULSE RX 570 4GB MINING PERFORMANCE

Mining Performance

GPU/memo clock: 1130/2050
Ethereum: stock 24 Mh/s ; modded bios + oc  29-29.5Mh/s (Hynix)
Power Usage: N/A

What does the Hynix mean?


SAPPHIRE PULSE RX 570 ITX 4GB

Mining Performance

GPU/memo clock: 1100/1910 (Elpida)
Ethereum: stock 22.4 Mh/s ; bios mod + oc 30.5 Mh/s (dual)
Power Usage: 130w (power may be higher)

What does the Dual mean?


http://1stminingrig.com/are-the-rx570-and-rx580-profitable-mining-performance-review/

What are the Best Brands?




Hynix is the memory brand. Dual mining means you mine the ETH and another coin in the same time.
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May 14, 2017, 08:02:41 AM
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Will it be feasible to fit 6 rx 580s 8gb on a 1000w gold psu with dual mining(dcr) ? I think the new rebrand uses more power than 400 series, or with tweaks is it comparable ?
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Will it be feasible to fit 6 rx 580s 8gb on a 1000w gold psu with dual mining(dcr) ? I think the new rebrand uses more power than 400 series, or with tweaks is it comparable ?

It uses more power stock because of higher clocks, if u mod/undervolt, the power is almost the same as 400 series.

For dual mining i wouldn't even use a 1200w psu, let alone a 1000w one.
Dual mining with 580's will get you close to 1000w, way over the safe, 80% PSU usage.
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May 14, 2017, 10:10:32 AM
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Will it be feasible to fit 6 rx 580s 8gb on a 1000w gold psu with dual mining(dcr) ? I think the new rebrand uses more power than 400 series, or with tweaks is it comparable ?

It uses more power stock because of higher clocks, if u mod/undervolt, the power is almost the same as 400 series.

For dual mining i wouldn't even use a 1200w psu, let alone a 1000w one.
Dual mining with 580's will get you close to 1000w, way over the safe, 80% PSU usage.
Hi Pennywis3 I asked Apneal but he missed that so if you can help I would appreciate that

Today I received one more new sapphire (11265-01-20G) Hynix I used the '777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17' straps and was able to hit 29.2(1100/2150), then I raised to (1200/2150) and it could hit 30.6 but the gpu-z power draw is 115-116W, I flashed again with 950mV@2000 but there is no change. please advise me how to reduce that I am newbie for voltage issues.
http://imgur.com/a/PqDzc
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May 14, 2017, 10:13:42 AM
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Will it be feasible to fit 6 rx 580s 8gb on a 1000w gold psu with dual mining(dcr) ? I think the new rebrand uses more power than 400 series, or with tweaks is it comparable ?

It uses more power stock because of higher clocks, if u mod/undervolt, the power is almost the same as 400 series.

For dual mining i wouldn't even use a 1200w psu, let alone a 1000w one.
Dual mining with 580's will get you close to 1000w, way over the safe, 80% PSU usage.

I got 7 rx 470s dual mining on a 1000w psu, using about 850w total, however severely undervolted, cards are at 825mv. I already have 1000w psus, so I guess my safe bet is to do 470/570 again  with agressive undervolting.
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Will it be feasible to fit 6 rx 580s 8gb on a 1000w gold psu with dual mining(dcr) ? I think the new rebrand uses more power than 400 series, or with tweaks is it comparable ?

It uses more power stock because of higher clocks, if u mod/undervolt, the power is almost the same as 400 series.

For dual mining i wouldn't even use a 1200w psu, let alone a 1000w one.
Dual mining with 580's will get you close to 1000w, way over the safe, 80% PSU usage.
Hi Pennywis3 I asked Apneal but he missed that so if you can help I would appreciate that

Today I received one more new sapphire (11265-01-20G) Hynix I used the '777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17' straps and was able to hit 29.2(1100/2150), then I raised to (1200/2150) and it could hit 30.6 but the gpu-z power draw is 115-116W, I flashed again with 950mV@2000 but there is no change. please advise me how to reduce that I am newbie for voltage issues.
http://imgur.com/a/PqDzc

It probably didn't accept the values, as u can see ur are running them at 1.05xV.
Try to set the voltage in Claymore or use Wattool if u cant set it through flash+AB.
Also i recommend u watch your memory errors closely in HW Monitor for errors. Those errors can sometimes make a rig unstable, the miner or the ati driver can crash because of the errors.
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May 14, 2017, 10:42:40 AM
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Will it be feasible to fit 6 rx 580s 8gb on a 1000w gold psu with dual mining(dcr) ? I think the new rebrand uses more power than 400 series, or with tweaks is it comparable ?

It uses more power stock because of higher clocks, if u mod/undervolt, the power is almost the same as 400 series.

For dual mining i wouldn't even use a 1200w psu, let alone a 1000w one.
Dual mining with 580's will get you close to 1000w, way over the safe, 80% PSU usage.

I got 7 rx 470s dual mining on a 1000w psu, using about 850w total, however severely undervolted, cards are at 825mv. I already have 1000w psus, so I guess my safe bet is to do 470/570 again  with agressive undervolting.

Well, im not saying it won't work, but for me, that's not a safe way to build rigs.
The cards can spike, the rig can shutdown, the PSU is under stress, the lifespan becomes questionable.

Everyone has his own opinions on this matter, personaly i like to have more head space. I'm not using anything below Platinum 1200 Evga's or Gold 1300w Evga's for my rigs. Just to be on the safe side.
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May 14, 2017, 10:57:12 AM
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Will it be feasible to fit 6 rx 580s 8gb on a 1000w gold psu with dual mining(dcr) ? I think the new rebrand uses more power than 400 series, or with tweaks is it comparable ?

It uses more power stock because of higher clocks, if u mod/undervolt, the power is almost the same as 400 series.

For dual mining i wouldn't even use a 1200w psu, let alone a 1000w one.
Dual mining with 580's will get you close to 1000w, way over the safe, 80% PSU usage.
Hi Pennywis3 I asked Apneal but he missed that so if you can help I would appreciate that

Today I received one more new sapphire (11265-01-20G) Hynix I used the '777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17' straps and was able to hit 29.2(1100/2150), then I raised to (1200/2150) and it could hit 30.6 but the gpu-z power draw is 115-116W, I flashed again with 950mV@2000 but there is no change. please advise me how to reduce that I am newbie for voltage issues.
http://imgur.com/a/PqDzc
It probably didn't accept the values, as u can see ur are running them at 1.05xV.
Try to set the voltage in Claymore or use Wattool if u cant set it through flash+AB.
Also i recommend u watch your memory errors closely in HW Monitor for errors. Those errors can sometimes make a rig unstable, the miner or the ati driver can crash because of the errors.
The memory errors showing zero and the rig is stable but I wish to reduce the power consumption. Is that possible to use AB to undervoltage? and if not possible how to make wattool load the undervoltage on start up pls as AB do with clocks?
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