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October 07, 2017, 05:08:14 AM |
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I have a few L3's in batch 4 that I purchase with tokens in June.
Anyone know if I'm better off selling them? Tokens are almost the same price I bought on the ICO
Thanks
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Vyazhan
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October 07, 2017, 06:21:43 AM |
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So to break it down. Gigawatt sold you this dream, promised you cheap power and you had to lock up your money for MONTHS while they used it for whatever they wanted.(You would have doubled it by just putting it in bitcoin) Then when it comes time to collect, they tell you that you no thank you. You would have assumed they would have sent test samples to the PUD inspection to avoid problems.
By the time they get up and running, realistically would be 16-20 weeks from today. Do you think they are going to be putting token holders in those slots first? That would be nieve. The inside investors, friends, and family, get those slots first. I would only imagine the lawyers strategically manipulated the terms for that. by the time your miners get online, the difficulty will add 4-6 months ROI while you missed out on the initial wave of profits.
Essentially, you are bag holders for their global power plant project. You footed the bill.
This is why ICOs should be regulated.
I wasn't aware Bitcoin reached 6300$ lately, thanks for the update! Can you proof any one of your statements? If not, then I'd be careful with publicly denouncing a company!
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Lucas Johannesburg
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October 07, 2017, 06:30:40 AM |
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So to break it down. Gigawatt sold you this dream, promised you cheap power and you had to lock up your money for MONTHS while they used it for whatever they wanted.(You would have doubled it by just putting it in bitcoin) Then when it comes time to collect, they tell you that you no thank you. You would have assumed they would have sent test samples to the PUD inspection to avoid problems.
By the time they get up and running, realistically would be 16-20 weeks from today. Do you think they are going to be putting token holders in those slots first? That would be nieve. The inside investors, friends, and family, get those slots first. I would only imagine the lawyers strategically manipulated the terms for that. by the time your miners get online, the difficulty will add 4-6 months ROI while you missed out on the initial wave of profits.
Essentially, you are bag holders for their global power plant project. You footed the bill.
This is why ICOs should be regulated.
I wasn't aware Bitcoin reached 6300$ lately, thanks for the update! Can you proof any one of your statements? If not, then I'd be careful with publicly denouncing a company! But GW did screw some people over. Atleast they notified the people of their options. . . . They went in over their head and left out important details with the launch of their company.
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Vyazhan
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October 07, 2017, 07:00:42 AM |
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So to break it down. Gigawatt sold you this dream, promised you cheap power and you had to lock up your money for MONTHS while they used it for whatever they wanted.(You would have doubled it by just putting it in bitcoin) Then when it comes time to collect, they tell you that you no thank you. You would have assumed they would have sent test samples to the PUD inspection to avoid problems.
By the time they get up and running, realistically would be 16-20 weeks from today. Do you think they are going to be putting token holders in those slots first? That would be nieve. The inside investors, friends, and family, get those slots first. I would only imagine the lawyers strategically manipulated the terms for that. by the time your miners get online, the difficulty will add 4-6 months ROI while you missed out on the initial wave of profits.
Essentially, you are bag holders for their global power plant project. You footed the bill.
This is why ICOs should be regulated.
I wasn't aware Bitcoin reached 6300$ lately, thanks for the update! Can you proof any one of your statements? If not, then I'd be careful with publicly denouncing a company! But GW did screw some people over. Atleast they notified the people of their options. . . . They went in over their head and left out important details with the launch of their company. From what I was able to gather, they successfully launched different mining businesses in the past and never did any authorities require the PSUs to be certified, but this time they required it, apparently trying to strongarm the company into paying extra. They refused to do that and now they have to send back half a million worth of PSUs back to Bitmain, who is currently trying to get the PSUs certified. I doubt that they willingly got the PSUs without the labeling, purposefully trying to screw people over. If that is the case, well done and they definitely succeeded in that quest, but it's in their best interest as well to get everything mining as fast as possible, as it's their profit and reputation at stake. Which important details did they leave out with the launch? From my own research, everything was explained in great detail on the site as well as the whitepaper.
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Dopert
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October 07, 2017, 07:01:22 AM |
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Uhm, i don't know if project tothemoon is real, but its also in Washington State. If its real its almost the same concept but they are a little more expensive. What i dont like is that we all carry the burden for WTT because off regulators, and tothemoon can profit from it because all struggle discussion already been done
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anu
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October 07, 2017, 10:38:44 AM |
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It looks like a good project. It offers very attractive advantages to the miners. It is a quality and crowded team. Moreover it is a well-established company.
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mextrusion
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October 07, 2017, 04:49:33 PM |
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It looks like a good project. It offers very attractive advantages to the miners. It is a quality and crowded team. Moreover it is a well-established company.
I agree that the company seems like a real benefit to people that want to mine if they come through with what they say. But the longer it takes (and we don't know how long it will take), the less the benefit is and our original expectations are going out the window. I think, they need to post more often and more accurate to make people feel better. They also need to try to make the pending token holders whole. Some people are able to trade and none of the PODs are completed. Where did the tokens come from that are trading in the onset?
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October 07, 2017, 09:20:03 PM |
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They are from Batch 1 and Batch 2. They have been already released.
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I did not post this message, The Russians did it !
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cuteman
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October 07, 2017, 09:23:05 PM |
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Uhm, i don't know if project tothemoon is real, but its also in Washington State. If its real its almost the same concept but they are a little more expensive. What i dont like is that we all carry the burden for WTT because off regulators, and tothemoon can profit from it because all struggle discussion already been done They are SCAM!!!! They had a topic here on Bitcointalk about a month ago, but after people discovered thier lies, they deleted the whole topic !
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cuteman
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October 07, 2017, 09:26:45 PM |
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Uhm, i don't know if project tothemoon is real, but its also in Washington State. If its real its almost the same concept but they are a little more expensive.
Giga-watt already warned people about this SCAM, about a month ago. here is another confirmation: Hacked.com has learned through one of its readers that ToTheMoon (TMT) “professional mining” is a scam. The distressed reader phoned the local power cooperative that supports the land where TMT mining pods are supposedly located. Not only does the power company not serve TMT, it hasn’t even heard of it. In a town of 350 people, that simply doesn’t add up. https://hacked.com/tothemoon-ico-scam/
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cuteman
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October 07, 2017, 09:28:38 PM |
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Please be aware: ToTheMoon (TMT) ICO is a Scam TMT is a nearly verbatim ripoff of Giga Watt, an East Wenatchee, Washington company. Hacked.com has since contacted Giga Watt informing them that their website content has been used by scammers. https://hacked.com/tothemoon-ico-scam/
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rustyTuB
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October 07, 2017, 10:07:49 PM |
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Tothemoonimus's facebook page has a photo of a Soviet era man-hole cover. Note that this facebook page does not let you post or comment on the page, you may like & share. The man-hole cover has two tabs on it, one on each side. I've seen these while walking in Lviv and Kiev. There's a "like" on the photo by "Robert Crypto" who's facebook page is loaded with lots of Russian and ? ICO details & events.
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cuteman
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October 07, 2017, 10:52:05 PM |
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Tothemoonimus's facebook page has a photo of a Soviet era man-hole cover. Note that this facebook page does not let you post or comment on the page, you may like & share.
There were times when they allowed to post. Once a women from Giga-Watt posted a few comments about their scam, but they deleted all of them next day. I would suggest GW sends a claim to FB, asking for closing TTM account as faked.
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rustyTuB
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October 08, 2017, 06:13:05 AM |
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2017 Oct 4 - Called The city of Lake Moses building permit department today: http://www.cityofml.com/index.aspx?NID=83A gal there told me concerning building permits for "Giga Pods": "three more today" "first three on the 22nd of September" "issued six" I called wanting to confirm activity. So there are permits started for three Giga Pods not yet shown active at Giga-Watt.com
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October 08, 2017, 06:30:52 AM Last edit: October 09, 2017, 05:51:58 AM by rustyTuB |
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http://www.cityofml.com/Archive/ViewFile/Item/1379Interesting to see the names of the companies involved. We're familiar with Giga-Watt but not with Giga Plex LLC. of Monroe Washington. From a building permit recently issued: City of Moses Lake PO Drawer 1579 Moses Lake, WA 98837 Phone: (509) 764-3756 Permit #: BLD2017-0336 ISSUED: 09/22/2017 EXPIRES: 03/21/2018 BUILDING PERMIT JOB ADDRESS: 7890 NE RANDOLPH RD, MOSES LAKE PARCEL #: 090969102 VALUATION: $161,000.00 PERMIT TYPE: COMM-BUIL-NEW WORK DESCRIPTION: GIGA POD 3 OF 3 PARCEL C APPLICANT: GIGA PLEX LLC, 10622 227TH AVE SE, MONROE, WA 98272 (425) 356-9499 PROPERTY OWNER: GIGA PLEX LLC, 10622 227TH AVE SE, MONROE, WA 98272 (425) 356-9499 CONTRACTOR: LT EQUITIES LLC, C/O TIMOTHY ALLEN HIBBARD, PO BOX 2067, CHELAN, WA 98816 (509) 881-8016 LIC #: LTEQUEL841J5 EXP: 04/25/2018 SPECIAL CONDITIONS None FEES Date Description Fee Amount Paid Balance Due 08/14/2017 BUILDING PERMIT $1,341.85 ($1,341.85) $0.00 08/14/2017 STATE BUILDING CODE SURCHARGE $4.50 ($4.50) $0.00 09/20/2017 BASE BUILDING PLAN REVIEW (QTY: 1) $150.00 ($150.00) $0.00 Total Due: $1,496.35 ($1,496.35) $0.00 The Giga Pod parcel is on the east side of the airport just south west of the intersection of Randolph Rd NE and Tyndall Rd NE. Google maps shows a shed there. The Giga Pods parcel is immediately adjacent to the south edge of the shed. https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1966866,-119.2933007,71m/data=!3m1!1e3 http://grantwa.mapsifter.com/defaultHTML5.aspx enter parcel #: 090969102 http://grantwa.taxsifter.com/Search/results.aspx?q=090969102 enter parcel #: 090969102 Who is Giga Plex LLC located at 10622 227TH AVE SE, MONROE, WA 98272 (425) 356-9499 ? Snohomish County Acessor's office reports for this address: Smith Robert T with parcels: 28072000101300, 28072000101301 Spokeo claims this Mr. Smith is 82 years of age. Parcel 28072000101300 the April 2017 tax bill appears unpaid and penalty due. https://www.snoco.org/proptax enter the parcel number. https://www.spokeo.com/Robert-Smith/Washington/Monroe/p2016060521357151292128082731368https://www.google.com/maps/place/10622+227th+Ave+SE,+Monroe,+WA+98272/@47.9009819,-121.9307282,278m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x549aa5930796b21b:0x2d29942b763a0e4b!8m2!3d47.900965!4d-121.929967 Details of the listed contractor: https://www.bizapedia.com/wa/lt-equities-llc.html
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October 08, 2017, 06:36:55 AM |
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https://www.wacompanygo.com/Giga-Plex-604106647/More on Giga Plex LLC. UBI: 604106647 Business Name: GIGA PLEX Date of Incorporation: Mar 23 2017 State Of Incorporation: WA Active Status: Active Category: Limited Liability Company Company Type & Class: Profit Duration: Perpetual Expiration Date: Mar 31 2018 Agent Name: JEFFERS, DANIELSON, SONN & AYLWARD, P.S. Agent Address: 2600 CHESTER KIMM RD., WENATCHEE, WA 988018116 Google Maps places 2600 Chester Kimm Rd. on the street rather than a finished property; it is on the west side of the street and 3rd down. Parcel: 232028120130 Owner: JDSA BUILDING LLC Address: 123 EASY ST WENATCHEE, WA 98801 Parcel Number: 232028120130 The Agent is in Chelan County. http://maps.co.chelan.wa.us/chelancountyGIS/https://www.google.com/maps/place/2600+Chester+Kimm+Rd,+Wenatchee,+WA+98801/@47.4645855,-120.3352721,139m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x549bcb096432a023:0xf9dcf449e7268742!8m2!3d47.4640465!4d-120.334048
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October 08, 2017, 06:48:11 AM |
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In Wenatchee at Pangborn Airport there are three of four parcels titled to the airport authority that Giga-Watt may be leasing. The parcels are owned by: Last Name: CHELAN & DOUGLAS CO PORT DIST SITUS: 675 S BILLINGSLEY DR, EAST WENATCHEE 98802 Parcel Number: 76600001000 Deeded Ac.: 2.00 Calculated Ac.: 3.52 BPC-2017-034 / Storage Units / Factory Permit / Comment Period Submitted: 8/23/2017 Issued: Closed: Project Description: GIGA-WATT PANGBORN CAMPUS SITE DEVELOPMENT Parcel Number: 76600000900 Deeded Ac.: 2.95 Calculated Ac.: 2.95 PRE-CBP-2017-02 / Commercial Building Consult / Pending Submitted: 1/24/2017 Issued: Closed: Project Description: Sever Pod Campuas Parcel Number: 76600000800 Deeded Ac.: 3.05 Calculated Ac.: 3.05 PRE-CBP-2017-02 / Commercial Building Consult / Pending Submitted: 1/24/2017 Issued: Closed: Project Description: Sever Pod Campuas Parcel Number: 76600001100 Deeded Ac.: 2.29 Calculated Ac.: 4.40 NO ACTIVITY HERE check the building permits here: https://co-douglas-wa.smartgovcommunity.com/Parcels/ParcelHomesee the parcels here: http://gis.douglascountywa.net/flexviewers/Interactive_Web_Map/https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wenatchee,+WA+98801/@47.3943218,-120.2172844,284m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x549bcc43dd054f43:0x746e63024633d190!8m2!3d47.4234599!4d-120.3103494
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October 08, 2017, 06:55:54 AM |
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Another interesting company: GIGA WATT HOSTING, LLC The agent for this company is the Executive Manager, Sinden Harum, who is mentioned on the Giga-Watt.com web page. https://www.wacompanygo.com/Giga-Watt-Hosting-Llc-604122937/#.WdnIZCX7a00UBI 604122937 Business Name GIGA WATT HOSTING, LLC Date of Incorporation May 19 2017 State Of Incorporation WA Active Status ACTIVE Category Limited Liability Company Company Type & Class Profit Duration Perpetual Expiration Date May 31 2018 Agent Name SINDEN HARUM Agent Address 1 CAMPBELL PKWY, EAST WENATCHEE, WA 988029234 Alternate Address 1 CAMPBELL PKWY, EAST WENATCHEE, 988029234 https://www.google.com/maps/place/1+Campbell+Pkwy,+East+Wenatchee,+WA+98802/@47.396607,-120.2150857,525m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x549bcd8d44f95e55:0x8b1c8eb16e91f2b9!8m2!3d47.396607!4d-120.212897
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rafzalan
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October 08, 2017, 07:00:06 AM |
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Thanks for sharing, But after all ... What do you want to tell?
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October 08, 2017, 07:14:52 AM |
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I was not able to easily find the building permits for: 1) Construction of first two Giga Pods at Moses Lake 2) Construction on parcels at Wenatchee's Pangborn airport
It is interesting that Giga Plex LLC has this address 10622 227TH AVE SE, MONROE, WA 98272 of Robert Smith's associated with it on the building permit at Moses Lake.
Maybe someone reading my posts will realize & post something interesting?
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