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someone wrote to Baikal asking them when they will release the new algo ?
yes, many times. Same bullshit answers from them.
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Soon BAIKAL X10 will enter the D3 era ... worthless to mine ... D3 is non profitable any more
Let's see BAIKAL will continue to price game ? BATCH 1 for X10 was $1200 and now still they want $2699 ....jokes
Although i am with you regarding prices, and i think Baikal are just Scammers, because they dont release the new Algorithms, which i am sure they already have, at this time, is there any Miner that is still profitable? At least for european users and power prices, at this time all ASIC's are not profitable, because of the low prices for bitcoin and all other cryptocurrencies. That is not the fault of Baikal. As already said, for me, Baikal are scammers anyway. They sold the X10 in octobre with the promise to add two more algorithms "soon". Although we all know, that "soon" is not a precise date, we also know, that 6 months in cryptocurrency market is not "soon" but rather "eternity". And i am 100% sure, they already have the new firmware. Here you can check profitability for ASICs (in theory): https://www.asicminervalue.com/But please consider also other sources regarding algos etc. to get a full view (e.g. fork for the cryptonight coins) Cheers
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don't let me tell you any shit. If I hear that again soon the Baikal Gaint x10 will end like the antminer D3. It's very awesome to make such a silly mess of yourself. The Gaint x10 can use 7 algorithms yes 7 even if some think that the 2 algorithms will not come any more, they will come. Can only recommend everyone to buy a miner of multiple algorithms can not only use one. If a miner nu one can then sooner or later what happened to the Antminer D3 will happen. With the Gaint x10 this will not be the case as it can handle 7 algos. Besides, one has to say that the Gaint x10 needs almost no current at skein and myriad-grostel, no comparison to the Antminer D3. I don't think Bitmain will bring a miner that can skein or myriad-groestl. The good thing is Bitmain only brings Miner who can mostly handle an algo. At Baikal it is different they have specialized in several, in addition Bitmain has an extremely bad reputation with its customers see V9 D3 or X3 the F3 of ETH Minen can be the same scrap as the D3 who buys the must be really stupid Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator
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don't let me tell you any shit. If I hear that again soon the Baikal Gaint x10 will end like the antminer D3. It's very awesome to make such a silly mess of yourself. The Gaint x10 can use 7 algorithms yes 7 even if some think that the 2 algorithms will not come any more, they will come. Can only recommend everyone to buy a miner of multiple algorithms can not only use one. If a miner nu one can then sooner or later what happened to the Antminer D3 will happen. With the Gaint x10 this will not be the case as it can handle 7 algos. Besides, one has to say that the Gaint x10 needs almost no current at skein and myriad-grostel, no comparison to the Antminer D3. I don't think Bitmain will bring a miner that can skein or myriad-groestl. The good thing is Bitmain only brings Miner who can mostly handle an algo. At Baikal it is different they have specialized in several, in addition Bitmain has an extremely bad reputation with its customers see V9 D3 or X3 the F3 of ETH Minen can be the same scrap as the D3 who buys the must be really stupid Translated with www.DeepL.com/TranslatorI have Baikal X10. Yes we use 5 Algos. 2 are since october ONLY promissed! But we all see in a Baikal X10 community, that every day is difficulty on every coin much higher. On every ALGO on every COIN! Because new Baikals switch up to the NET! You will see soon, that will end as Anminer D3. I have already some as doorstopper!!! If you do not believe me buy it. We will see, who is right! And we will do not earn something soon. Not you and not me and Baikal X10 community! Only Baikal earns on the sales!!! They still do not want to give us new algos. Since some month! They have n0t it !!! They reduce the price to sell the rest and earn money!!! We do not get new algos! Who still buy BAIKAL X10 must be really stupid
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don't let me tell you any shit. If I hear that again soon the Baikal Gaint x10 will end like the antminer D3. It's very awesome to make such a silly mess of yourself. The Gaint x10 can use 7 algorithms yes 7 even if some think that the 2 algorithms will not come any more, they will come. Can only recommend everyone to buy a miner of multiple algorithms can not only use one. If a miner nu one can then sooner or later what happened to the Antminer D3 will happen. With the Gaint x10 this will not be the case as it can handle 7 algos. Besides, one has to say that the Gaint x10 needs almost no current at skein and myriad-grostel, no comparison to the Antminer D3. I don't think Bitmain will bring a miner that can skein or myriad-groestl. The good thing is Bitmain only brings Miner who can mostly handle an algo. At Baikal it is different they have specialized in several, in addition Bitmain has an extremely bad reputation with its customers see V9 D3 or X3 the F3 of ETH Minen can be the same scrap as the D3 who buys the must be really stupid Translated with www.DeepL.com/TranslatorI have Baikal X10. Yes we use 5 Algos. 2 are since october ONLY promissed! But we all see in a Baikal X10 community, that every day is difficulty on every coin much higher. On every ALGO on every COIN! Because new Baikals switch up to the NET! You will see soon, that will end as Anminer D3. I have already some as doorstopper!!! If you do not believe me buy it. We will see, who is right! And we will do not earn something soon. Not you and not me and Baikal X10 community! Only Baikal earns on the sales!!! They still do not want to give us new algos. Since some month! They have n0t it !!! They reduce the price to sell the rest and earn money!!! We do not get new algos! Who still buy BAIKAL X10 must be really stupid I just ordered 2 X10
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don't let me tell you any shit. If I hear that again soon the Baikal Gaint x10 will end like the antminer D3. It's very awesome to make such a silly mess of yourself. The Gaint x10 can use 7 algorithms yes 7 even if some think that the 2 algorithms will not come any more, they will come. Can only recommend everyone to buy a miner of multiple algorithms can not only use one. If a miner nu one can then sooner or later what happened to the Antminer D3 will happen. With the Gaint x10 this will not be the case as it can handle 7 algos. Besides, one has to say that the Gaint x10 needs almost no current at skein and myriad-grostel, no comparison to the Antminer D3. I don't think Bitmain will bring a miner that can skein or myriad-groestl. The good thing is Bitmain only brings Miner who can mostly handle an algo. At Baikal it is different they have specialized in several, in addition Bitmain has an extremely bad reputation with its customers see V9 D3 or X3 the F3 of ETH Minen can be the same scrap as the D3 who buys the must be really stupid Translated with www.DeepL.com/TranslatorI have Baikal X10. Yes we use 5 Algos. 2 are since october ONLY promissed! But we all see in a Baikal X10 community, that every day is difficulty on every coin much higher. On every ALGO on every COIN! Because new Baikals switch up to the NET! You will see soon, that will end as Anminer D3. I have already some as doorstopper!!! If you do not believe me buy it. We will see, who is right! And we will do not earn something soon. Not you and not me and Baikal X10 community! Only Baikal earns on the sales!!! They still do not want to give us new algos. Since some month! They have n0t it !!! They reduce the price to sell the rest and earn money!!! We do not get new algos! Who still buy BAIKAL X10 must be really stupid I just ordered 2 X10 Welcome =) Order only first or second batch =) Than you will earn money. I ordered in october. Already reached the ROI. You do not get it. SORRY. The last "who buys the must be really stupid " I took from post before!
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March 29, 2018, 04:27:14 PM |
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When I bought my single x10 (last October), I should have bought more.
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March 29, 2018, 04:37:05 PM Last edit: March 29, 2018, 04:49:55 PM by Selector79 |
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When I bought my single x10 (last October), I should have bought more.
And sell in Januar at pump! That would be the best. I sold one and got my money back! Hardware is payed. Should better sell all in januar and buy cryptocoins on exchange. It would be much better. If baikal where NOW 1440 USD I would not buy it! For 2699 no way. Invest better your money in CRYPTO. You will get much more than! If you buy BAIKAL X10 you earn now only 10 USD or so a day. Or less. How many days do you need to mine 2699 USD??? The market will for sure grow soon. If you buy cryptocoin and get 10%. How much earn you??? So think yourself
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March 29, 2018, 05:03:32 PM |
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When I bought my single x10 (last October), I should have bought more.
And sell in Januar at pump! That would be the best. I sold one and got my money back! Hardware is payed. Should better sell all in januar and buy cryptocoins on exchange. It would be much better. If baikal where NOW 1440 USD I would not buy it! For 2699 no way. Invest better your money in CRYPTO. You will get much more than! If you buy BAIKAL X10 you earn now only 10 USD or so a day. Or less. How many days do you need to mine 2699 USD??? The market will for sure grow soon. If you buy cryptocoin and get 10%. How much earn you??? So think yourself I have been making simulation of Baikal with some custom coins during the past days I would have made 15 to 20 usd per day. You just have to find the right coins. So yes it's still worth for me. I will have my money back in about 6 months. Maybe less. Way better than GPUs.
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When I bought my single x10 (last October), I should have bought more.
And sell in Januar at pump! That would be the best. I sold one and got my money back! Hardware is payed. Should better sell all in januar and buy cryptocoins on exchange. It would be much better. If baikal where NOW 1440 USD I would not buy it! For 2699 no way. Invest better your money in CRYPTO. You will get much more than! If you buy BAIKAL X10 you earn now only 10 USD or so a day. Or less. How many days do you need to mine 2699 USD??? The market will for sure grow soon. If you buy cryptocoin and get 10%. How much earn you??? So think yourself Well... After roi, and I did it really soon, I like to mine young coins too, with low diff and low value, even when they have no exchange available yet. Hopefully, their value will grow (way more than 10%) and after some months maybe I can sell them with an interesting earning. At least, I'm doing so: I don't like autoswitch/autoexchange pools, but it's just my personal taste.
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i bought my X10 at the 2nd batch for 1188 usd each. I have achieved ROI for a long time. There is currently no better miner like the x10 don't let any bullshit tell you, one should show me a miner that now runs better than the x10. Yes of course the Cryptonight miner but only as long as monero did not complete the hard fork. There will definitely come 2 new algorithms, I think Baikal will wait for the market situation so that when the market turns at the end of april they can charge 8k usd for the miners again and then they cut out the 2 new algorithms (my estimation NIST5 and Groest). Don't let anything tell you there are definitely 2 new algorithms to x10. If you hold the coins for 1 year you will see what a profit it has become. If anyone doesn't believe that the whole kryptomarkt berg is going up then you are out of place here with mining Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator
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i bought my X10 at the 2nd batch for 1188 usd each. I have achieved ROI for a long time. There is currently no better miner like the x10 don't let any bullshit tell you, one should show me a miner that now runs better than the x10. Yes of course the Cryptonight miner but only as long as monero did not complete the hard fork. There will definitely come 2 new algorithms, I think Baikal will wait for the market situation so that when the market turns at the end of april they can charge 8k usd for the miners again and then they cut out the 2 new algorithms (my estimation NIST5 and Groest). Don't let anything tell you there are definitely 2 new algorithms to x10. If you hold the coins for 1 year you will see what a profit it has become. If anyone doesn't believe that the whole kryptomarkt berg is going up then you are out of place here with mining Translated with www.DeepL.com/TranslatorIt's not a bad miner , we never say that , but the time to buy it is bad, at this price , do not hope anything for new algo to change profit , Groestl will change their algo , they dont want asic ! and nist as only one coin i mean a good one , so new algo won't change anything.
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March 29, 2018, 08:41:05 PM |
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yes, but still is really good that there is any alternative algo. Not single one as other miners
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March 29, 2018, 08:46:46 PM Last edit: March 29, 2018, 09:21:57 PM by Gongolo |
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It's not a bad miner , we never say that , but the time to buy it is bad, at this price , do not hope anything for new algo to change profit , Groestl will change their algo , they dont want asic ! and nist as only one coin i mean a good one , so new algo won't change anything.
This is asic world, it's normal: each asic has a short life, 2-4 months of great mining, then earnings drop. And each asic model, when released, has been already "tested" by developers for some months: THEY did great earnings. Look at D3: huge earnings during preorder, great earnings when released, after a couple of batches profit dropped. Currently, it could not cover power costs when mining (1200W). X10 offers 5 algos at low power, much better than GPU rigs. IMHO, it's a great miner, very versatile, certainly more than other asic miners currently on the market. If you invest some time reasearching, you can still earn 15-20 USD (or more) in this red days. At 120W-150W-360W. There are a lot of skein, myr-gr, quark coins out there. I know some people are trying to rebuild x10 sgminer to make it use nist5 and groestl, supported by current hardware: maybe they fail, but if not, I'm sure we will see immediate release of new x10 firmware by Baikal.  Of course, with 2 new algos available. Anyway, I think x10 will have a longer life than other asic.
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March 29, 2018, 09:08:39 PM |
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In which pools are you minning to get the most profit
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March 29, 2018, 09:23:45 PM |
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It's not a bad miner , we never say that , but the time to buy it is bad, at this price , do not hope anything for new algo to change profit , Groestl will change their algo , they dont want asic ! and nist as only one coin i mean a good one , so new algo won't change anything.
This is asic world, it's normal: each asic has a short life, 2-4 months of great mining, then earnings drop. And each asic model, when released, has been already "tested" by developers for some months: THEY did great earnings. Look at D3: huge earnings during preorder, great earnings when released, after a couple of batches profit dropped. Currently, it could not cover power costs when mining (1200W). X10 offers 5 algos at low power, much better than GPU rigs. IMHO, it's a great miner, very versatile, certainly more than other asic miners currently on the market. If you invest some time reasearching, you can still earn 15-20 USD (or more) in this red days. At 120W-150W-360W. There are a lot of skein, myr-gr, quark coin out there. I know some people is trying to rebuild x10 sgminer to make it use nist5 and groestl, supported by current hardware: maybe they fail, but if not, I'm sure we will see immediate release of new x10 firmware by Baikal.  Of course, with 2 new algos available. Anyway, I think x10 will have a longer life than other asic. they have sold many new x10, so trust me profit will be low. And crypto price is goind down to hell , and trust me i wait for the reverse , you can buy it but for those have not lot of experience they need all the clue to have a decison. actually it s hard to get more than 10~15$/day
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they have sold many new x10, so trust me profit will be low. And crypto price is goind down to hell , and trust me i wait for the reverse , you can buy it but for those have not lot of experience they need all the clue to have a decison. actually it s hard to get more than 10~15$/day
I agree. If you are an experienced miner and want to add some more algos to your "firepower", x10 at 1500-2000$ could be interesting. For sure I will never pay 7000/each. Still I can't understand who keeps putting x10 in a bad light. X10 has been released Sept-Oct 2017 (so I guess Baikal and some other lucky people were mining at least since Aug 2017), first batch reached early buyers Nov 2017, after 3-4 months x10 ended its life for big earnings. I didn't shutdown it, it's still mining. But you are right, now it's hard to get more than 15-20$ per day per unit, therefore any new buyer is advised. If you want to earn more, you will have to invest your time looking for new coins and/or going "solo" when possible.
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i bought my X10 at the 2nd batch for 1188 usd each. I have achieved ROI for a long time. There is currently no better miner like the x10 don't let any bullshit tell you, one should show me a miner that now runs better than the x10. Yes of course the Cryptonight miner but only as long as monero did not complete the hard fork. There will definitely come 2 new algorithms, I think Baikal will wait for the market situation so that when the market turns at the end of april they can charge 8k usd for the miners again and then they cut out the 2 new algorithms (my estimation NIST5 and Groest). Don't let anything tell you there are definitely 2 new algorithms to x10. If you hold the coins for 1 year you will see what a profit it has become. If anyone doesn't believe that the whole kryptomarkt berg is going up then you are out of place here with mining Translated with www.DeepL.com/TranslatorIt's not a bad miner , we never say that , but the time to buy it is bad, at this price , do not hope anything for new algo to change profit , Groestl will change their algo , they dont want asic ! and nist as only one coin i mean a good one , so new algo won't change anything. It is right! I never told that is bad miner. otherwise I would not buy it. But now is not a right time to buy it. You do not get the ROI and people who has already Baikal x10 have soon no earnings beacause of difficulty, like d3! I would buy directly cryptocurrency if I were you! I can sell my Baikals in Germany for 3000 a piece=) If anybody is intrested. Do not need to pay custom and it can take it today. No Problem. And I buy than crypto directly =)
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i bought my X10 at the 2nd batch for 1188 usd each. I have achieved ROI for a long time. There is currently no better miner like the x10 don't let any bullshit tell you, one should show me a miner that now runs better than the x10. Yes of course the Cryptonight miner but only as long as monero did not complete the hard fork. There will definitely come 2 new algorithms, I think Baikal will wait for the market situation so that when the market turns at the end of april they can charge 8k usd for the miners again and then they cut out the 2 new algorithms (my estimation NIST5 and Groest). Don't let anything tell you there are definitely 2 new algorithms to x10. If you hold the coins for 1 year you will see what a profit it has become. If anyone doesn't believe that the whole kryptomarkt berg is going up then you are out of place here with mining Translated with www.DeepL.com/TranslatorIt's not a bad miner , we never say that , but the time to buy it is bad, at this price , do not hope anything for new algo to change profit , Groestl will change their algo , they dont want asic ! and nist as only one coin i mean a good one , so new algo won't change anything. If you would REALLY think that the X10 is not worth anymore you would not try to sell it for 3650 USD when the price at Baikal is 2699 USD.... You would try to get rid of it for few bucks. But you know that the X10 is the best miner at the moment also considering the actual price is not bad at all. There is no GPU and no other ASIC miner that can compare now the ROI of the X10 at the actual price. It is right! I never told that is bad miner. otherwise I would not buy it. But now is not a right time to buy it. You do not get the ROI and people who has already Baikal x10 have soon no earnings beacause of difficulty, like d3! I would buy directly cryptocurrency if I were you! I can sell my Baikals in Germany for 3000 a piece=) If anybody is intrested. Do not need to pay custom and it can take it today. No Problem. And I buy than crypto directly =)
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i bought my X10 at the 2nd batch for 1188 usd each. I have achieved ROI for a long time. There is currently no better miner like the x10 don't let any bullshit tell you, one should show me a miner that now runs better than the x10. Yes of course the Cryptonight miner but only as long as monero did not complete the hard fork. There will definitely come 2 new algorithms, I think Baikal will wait for the market situation so that when the market turns at the end of april they can charge 8k usd for the miners again and then they cut out the 2 new algorithms (my estimation NIST5 and Groest). Don't let anything tell you there are definitely 2 new algorithms to x10. If you hold the coins for 1 year you will see what a profit it has become. If anyone doesn't believe that the whole kryptomarkt berg is going up then you are out of place here with mining Translated with www.DeepL.com/TranslatorIt's not a bad miner , we never say that , but the time to buy it is bad, at this price , do not hope anything for new algo to change profit , Groestl will change their algo , they dont want asic ! and nist as only one coin i mean a good one , so new algo won't change anything. If you would REALLY think that the X10 is not worth anymore you would not try to sell it for 3650 USD when the price at Baikal is 2699 USD.... You would try to get rid of it for few bucks. But you know that the X10 is the best miner at the moment also considering the actual price is not bad at all. There is no GPU and no other ASIC miner that can compare now the ROI of the X10 at the actual price. It is right! I never told that is bad miner. otherwise I would not buy it. But now is not a right time to buy it. You do not get the ROI and people who has already Baikal x10 have soon no earnings beacause of difficulty, like d3! I would buy directly cryptocurrency if I were you! I can sell my Baikals in Germany for 3000 a piece=) If anybody is intrested. Do not need to pay custom and it can take it today. No Problem. And I buy than crypto directly =) You do not understand. I like my Baikal. But if more buy new Baikal X10 also, nobody earn money! Because difficulty goes to the moon!!! I got already the ROI and got more than I invested. (Because I sold one X10 in Januar for 8000 EURO) And bought more for 1440 USD in october! I got on 3 Baikal in 3 Month --->0.33 BTC!!! The price of coins was OK first 2 Month! For me are 10 USD a day OK! What is about you? Are 5 USD or less OK for you, if you buy it for 2699 USD? Because if you buy and some more people, we all participate the network and earnings goes down for all BAIKAL X10 !!! Why I tell it to you? Because my earnings goes down. But I tell it to you also for your reason! You will lose more, if you buy it!
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