eltopo
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August 03, 2013, 01:02:35 PM |
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0.00006725 (-16.4%)
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Hfleer
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August 03, 2013, 01:27:34 PM |
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0.00006725 (-16.4%)
How high of a range would you guess the next difficulty to hit?
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eltopo
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August 03, 2013, 01:30:26 PM |
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I don't see any reason why it would be much lower than another ~20%
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twentyseventy
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August 03, 2013, 01:30:38 PM |
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Last increases have been 19%, 20%, 10%, if I recall correctly...
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Deprived (OP)
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August 03, 2013, 04:08:08 PM |
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Sold 548 Swapped 0 Total 548 Price 0.03394 Total 18.59912 Less Fee 18.56192176 Man Fee 0.556857653
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 925.03698651 11285 LTC-ATF.B1 112.85000000 Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.71894672 Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.32343777 Just-Dice Balance 154.25852836 TOTAL ASSETS 1,494.18789936 Outstanding MINING 43475 Outstanding SELLING 43475 Outstanding PURCHASE 2735 Effective Units 46210 Block reward 25 Difficulty 31,256,961 Hashes per MINING 5000000 Daily Dividend 0.00008045 50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00402236 100 days (Forced Close) 0.00804471 365 days (Buyback) 0.02936320 405 days (IPO) 0.03258108 400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.03217885 410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.03298332 NAV Post MINING Div 1,490.47043781 NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03225428 Days Dividend Post Div 400.94 SELLING Dividend - NAV Post SELLING Div 1,490.47043781 NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.03225428 PURCHASE selling price 0.03387 PURCHASE buy-back price 0.03161 J-D House profit at report 2805
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joele
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August 04, 2013, 12:24:23 AM |
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0.00006725 (-16.4%)
How high of a range would you guess the next difficulty to hit? Next difficulty if same % is 44,732,966 with MINING dividend 0.00005621
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Deprived (OP)
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August 04, 2013, 04:12:09 PM |
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Sold 822 Swapped 0 Total 822 Price 0.03387 Total 27.84114 Less Fee 27.78545772 Man Fee 0.833563732
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 960.34604591 10164 LTC-ATF.B1 101.64000000 Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.84709370 Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.38664689 Just-Dice Balance 154.08127085 TOTAL ASSETS 1,518.30105735 Outstanding MINING 44797 Outstanding SELLING 44797 Outstanding PURCHASE 2235 Effective Units 47032 Block reward 25 Difficulty 37,392,766 Hashes per MINING 5000000 Daily Dividend 0.00006725 50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00336232 100 days (Forced Close) 0.00672465 365 days (Buyback) 0.02454497 405 days (IPO) 0.02723483 400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.02689860 410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.02757106 NAV Post MINING Div 1,515.13832003 NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03221505 Days Dividend Post Div 479.06 SELLING Dividend 0.00531645 NAV Post SELLING Div 1,265.09492669 NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.02689860 PURCHASE selling price 0.02824 PURCHASE buy-back price 0.02636 J-D House profit at report 2756
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odolvlobo
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August 04, 2013, 04:12:26 PM |
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Someone had their finger on the sell button.
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twentyseventy
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August 04, 2013, 04:12:56 PM |
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Someone had their finger on the sell button.
I did, but someone still beat me to 90% of it.
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BTCThousandaire
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August 04, 2013, 04:34:03 PM |
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Someone had their finger on the sell button.
I did, but someone still beat me to 90% of it. Did you still get the dividends on the shares you sold?
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eltopo
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August 04, 2013, 04:44:37 PM |
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I'm not him, but I'm sure he got the divs Wait for the divs to come in, then sell to people who don't understand what happen when a SELLING div is paid. That's the well hidden secret
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odolvlobo
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August 04, 2013, 05:20:10 PM |
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I'm not him, but I'm sure he got the divs Wait for the divs to come in, then sell to people who don't understand what happen when a SELLING div is paid. That's the well hidden secret Awwww, and now you went and told everyone! It looks like high-frequency trading is coming to BTC-TC.
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twentyseventy
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August 04, 2013, 05:22:27 PM |
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I'm not him, but I'm sure he got the divs Wait for the divs to come in, then sell to people who don't understand what happen when a SELLING div is paid. That's the well hidden secret Awwww, and now you went and told everyone! Giving away all my secrets, odolvlobo! It seems that no one can be bothered to read more than two pages back into this thread, so I'm sure it will be long forgotten in a couple of days!
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Deprived (OP)
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August 05, 2013, 04:09:02 PM |
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Quite a few different people buying decent chunks of PURCHASE today - so NAV/U actually rose (very) slightly.
Sold 11033 Swapped 0 Total 11033 Price 0.02824 Total 311.57192 Less Fee 310.9487762 Man Fee 9.328463285
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 1,008.76064367 10164 LTC-ATF.B1 101.64000000 Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.97761399 Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.45102666 Just-Dice Balance 154.63079193 TOTAL ASSETS 1,567.46007625 Outstanding MINING 54485 Outstanding SELLING 54485 Outstanding PURCHASE 3580 Effective Units 58065 Block reward 25 Difficulty 37,392,766 Hashes per MINING 5000000 Daily Dividend 0.00006725 50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00336232 100 days (Forced Close) 0.00672465 365 days (Buyback) 0.02454497 405 days (IPO) 0.02723483 400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.02689860 410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.02757106 NAV Post MINING Div 1,563.55540832 NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.02692767 Days Dividend Post Div 400.43 SELLING Dividend - NAV Post SELLING Div 1,563.55540832 NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.02692767 PURCHASE selling price 0.02827 PURCHASE buy-back price 0.02639 J-D House profit at report 2896
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TheSwede75
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August 05, 2013, 06:22:15 PM |
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I spent the morning reading up on DMS.MINING and have a distinct feeling that this asset is quite heavily undervalued. Anyone care to argue for/against the current (around 0.007) valuation?
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August 05, 2013, 06:23:10 PM |
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I spent the morning reading up on DMS.MINING and have a distinct feeling that this asset is quite heavily undervalued. Anyone care to argue for/against the current (around 0.007) valuation?
Ssshhhh
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odolvlobo
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August 05, 2013, 06:32:07 PM Last edit: August 05, 2013, 06:57:35 PM by odolvlobo |
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I spent the morning reading up on DMS.MINING and have a distinct feeling that this asset is quite heavily undervalued. Anyone care to argue for/against the current (around 0.007) valuation?
The value of DMS.MINING is based solely on the future of the difficulty value. A value of 0.007 implies a rise in difficulty of about 15% every difficulty period for the next few months. Do you think that is too high? What do you think the increase will be? A value of 0.01 implies an increase of about 10% every period. As someone who is manufacturing ASIC miners, you would know better than others what the future difficulty value might be. What do you think the value of DMS.MINING should be? How do you arrive at that value?
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TheSwede75
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August 05, 2013, 07:05:19 PM |
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I spent the morning reading up on DMS.MINING and have a distinct feeling that this asset is quite heavily undervalued. Anyone care to argue for/against the current (around 0.007) valuation?
The value of DMS.MINING is based solely on the future of the difficulty value. A value of 0.007 implies a rise in difficulty of about 15% every difficulty period for the next few months. Do you think that is too high? What do you think the increase will be? A value of 0.01 implies an increase of about 10% every period. As someone who is manufacturing ASIC miners, you would know better than others what the future difficulty value might be. What do you think the value of DMS.MINING should be? How do you arrive at that value? Actually more of a gut-feeling then anything else. It just seems that with the current dividend payment schedule and the so far continously over-estimated ASIC delivery power for at least the next month or two (Avalon shipping late, BFL not shipping fast enough etc) I just don't see a perpetual 20% increase in short or long term. I think people tend to underestimate the downward force that diff increases apply to hash-power rollouts over time.
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twentyseventy
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August 05, 2013, 07:34:04 PM |
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We've been seeing close to 20% increases for the past two months (besides the one 10% increase). With AM, Avalon, and the newcomers (ActM, Labcoin, BTCGarden), don't you think that there's significant chance of continual increase?
PS. Even if diff increases were only 10% per period, MINING would only pay out about .009 from now until 12/9/14
Disclosure: I've closed all my positions (for now)
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Lytse
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August 05, 2013, 07:43:02 PM |
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To get a 10% return in a year with current diff rises, only pay 0.006 BTC
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