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January 29, 2014, 08:40:55 PM |
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"A dog biting its tail" condition. We need a way out. Learning from the crazy dogecoin results, we need excellent marketing along with good development (even a BTC-e or a BTC38.com exchange). And ... we need it ... now. We need to sparkle the process.
DogeCoin is an excellet example of what marketing and good development can do. Here is a background: Dogecoin was created by programmer and former IBM engineer Billy Markus of Portland, Oregon. He was originally trying to tinker with an existing cryptocurrency of Markus's called "Bells" based on Nintendo's Animal Crossing. His hopes were reaching a broader demographic than the investors who made up Bitcoin's economy and something that wouldn't be involved with the controversial history behind Bitcoin (namely its association with the Silk Road).[12]
At the same time, his friend Jackson Palmer, a worker for a marketing department in Sydney, Australia for Adobe Systems, and the original individual who first conceived of the idea for Dogecoin, was encouraged by a student at Front Range Community College on Twitter to make the idea reality.[13] This led Palmer to reach out to Markus.[14]
After getting several mentions on Twitter, Palmer bought the domain dogecoin.com, which was shown to Markus and quickly began the partnership between Markus and Palmer, launching the coin shortly after the development of Markus' Dogecoin wallet was done.[15]
So, if some dude from Sydney, Australia can market DOGEcoin to be big, then some dude from Melbourne, Australia can do the same. If some former IBM engineer can develop DOGECoin then some former IBM engineer can also develop iXcoin. Yeah if only we had a former IBM worker. Or even anyone with a background in industrial coding. That's what we need.
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January 29, 2014, 09:02:01 PM |
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If this is the company of Luke Connell http://www.itransform.net.au/It seems he is able to find the right person for any kind of work. I would not be surprised if he finds the way to recruit a former IBM engineer for iXc in Australia.
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January 29, 2014, 09:02:25 PM |
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If we can get BTER on any chinese exchange, we'll be in good shape. BTW, I thought you had chinese friends who could translate?
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January 29, 2014, 09:04:21 PM |
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If this is the company of Luke Connell http://www.itransform.net.au/It seems he is able to find the right person for any kind of work. I would not be surprised if he finds the way to recruit a former IBM engineer for iXc in Australia. Social media... that's the key.
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January 29, 2014, 09:24:28 PM |
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Thanks to the hardest working member of the iXcoin community! If we had 10 Dexter44, we would be at $10!
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January 29, 2014, 10:02:26 PM |
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Sorry, that's kind of what I was going with. It takes alot to get a BTC miner to sweep out their NMC pool wallet, and that is at $7. For a coin worth $0.11 it's going to take that much more to get them to bother.
Just wondering, does IXCoin have any stores that accept the coins yet? If not, I admit my store is extremely low volume, and it's general purpose is just to bring a possible market to coins, not to really make money, but if you are hard up for a first site, I could add IX Coin to the list of coins I would be willing to take. It's not alot, but if even 1 Steam game manages to sell, that might be a volume of about 500 coins, which looks better then 3-4 coins traded.
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January 29, 2014, 10:32:32 PM Last edit: January 29, 2014, 10:58:56 PM by Dexter44 |
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Sorry, that's kind of what I was going with. It takes alot to get a BTC miner to sweep out their NMC pool wallet, and that is at $7. For a coin worth $0.11 it's going to take that much more to get them to bother.
Just wondering, does IXCoin have any stores that accept the coins yet? If not, I admit my store is extremely low volume, and it's general purpose is just to bring a possible market to coins, not to really make money, but if you are hard up for a first site, I could add IX Coin to the list of coins I would be willing to take. It's not alot, but if even 1 Steam game manages to sell, that might be a volume of about 500 coins, which looks better then 3-4 coins traded.
Vivisector999, today you are my hero. Frictionlesscoin, can you add this store on the iXc official website?
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VERUMinNUMERIS
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January 30, 2014, 12:37:04 AM |
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There are two possibilities: - all the lazy holders have, by coincidence, bought ixcoin - the real holders are just a few, but very big ones
I don't believe in coincidence.
There are 3 possibilities. Even though the second one is very much the case as well. Holding a large % of coins, and not trading them causes the coin to grow very stale. The 3rd possibility, which I know for a fact exists, as I have a few friends that are big BTC miners. The coin is merge mined with BTC. That is a blessing and a huge curse rolled into 1. The BTC miners are getting these coins, but since they are worth virtually nothing, they don't even bother downloading a wallet to pick them up or sell. They just sit there collecting dust, and causing the coin to grow stale in the process. They aren't even touching their NMC coins, as they feel $7 a coin isn't worth their time to collect them up and sell either. Granted Cryptsy isn't the biggest exchange out there. But looking at volumes and seeing times where no IXC was traded, ad other times when 3 coins traded here, 7 there is very discouraging to anyone wishing to invest in this coin. Especially when you consider the sheer number of coins that are available in the market. This isn't 21 coin we are talking about here. However, how do you explain the massive trading volume of NMC every day? In BTC-E NMC ranks #3 in trading volume after BTC and LTC. So your explanation that miners just hold the coins also doesn't explain the lack of trading volume. But he's saying the miners don't even hold the coins. He's saying they don't even have wallets so then where are these merge mined coins going? And yes, why does DVC, NMC and other merge mined coins have lots of volume. There's something else going on.
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January 30, 2014, 12:39:36 AM |
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There are two possibilities: - all the lazy holders have, by coincidence, bought ixcoin - the real holders are just a few, but very big ones
I don't believe in coincidence.
There are 3 possibilities. Even though the second one is very much the case as well. Holding a large % of coins, and not trading them causes the coin to grow very stale. The 3rd possibility, which I know for a fact exists, as I have a few friends that are big BTC miners. The coin is merge mined with BTC. That is a blessing and a huge curse rolled into 1. The BTC miners are getting these coins, but since they are worth virtually nothing, they don't even bother downloading a wallet to pick them up or sell. They just sit there collecting dust, and causing the coin to grow stale in the process. They aren't even touching their NMC coins, as they feel $7 a coin isn't worth their time to collect them up and sell either. Granted Cryptsy isn't the biggest exchange out there. But looking at volumes and seeing times where no IXC was traded, ad other times when 3 coins traded here, 7 there is very discouraging to anyone wishing to invest in this coin. Especially when you consider the sheer number of coins that are available in the market. This isn't 21 coin we are talking about here. There is a 4th possibility, the coin is so evenly distributed. This is a very real possibility. I think we have thousands of merge miners holding a few thousand iXcoins each and most don't sell cause its not worth enough to make a difference. Early huge miners like BCX hold 200,000 coins but that's rare so that means the newer miners hold much much less. This is a good thing for iXcoin. This is what you want to have in any global coin.
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January 30, 2014, 12:45:20 AM |
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"A dog biting its tail" condition. We need a way out. Learning from the crazy dogecoin results, we need excellent marketing along with good development (even a BTC-e or a BTC38.com exchange). And ... we need it ... now. We need to sparkle the process.
DogeCoin is an excellet example of what marketing and good development can do. Here is a background: Dogecoin was created by programmer and former IBM engineer Billy Markus of Portland, Oregon. He was originally trying to tinker with an existing cryptocurrency of Markus's called "Bells" based on Nintendo's Animal Crossing. His hopes were reaching a broader demographic than the investors who made up Bitcoin's economy and something that wouldn't be involved with the controversial history behind Bitcoin (namely its association with the Silk Road).[12]
At the same time, his friend Jackson Palmer, a worker for a marketing department in Sydney, Australia for Adobe Systems, and the original individual who first conceived of the idea for Dogecoin, was encouraged by a student at Front Range Community College on Twitter to make the idea reality.[13] This led Palmer to reach out to Markus.[14]
After getting several mentions on Twitter, Palmer bought the domain dogecoin.com, which was shown to Markus and quickly began the partnership between Markus and Palmer, launching the coin shortly after the development of Markus' Dogecoin wallet was done.[15]
So, if some dude from Sydney, Australia can market DOGEcoin to be big, then some dude from Melbourne, Australia can do the same. If some former IBM engineer can develop DOGECoin then some former IBM engineer can also develop iXcoin. Now you're talking cryptic like Luke. You're developing this coin so are you a former IMB software engineer? Can we start being a little upfront here people. Mr. Connell, we would all really appreciate it.
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January 30, 2014, 12:46:54 AM |
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jimhsu has volunteered to administer the website.
I will give him administrative rights.
PM if you have any issues.
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January 30, 2014, 01:08:29 AM |
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WANTED, IXCOIN.CO EDITOR Manage and write content for the ixcoin.co website. Manage all the translations that are needed for an international website? Here's the link to the translation tracking tool: https://crowdin.net/project/ixcoinAny volunteers?
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iampingu
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January 30, 2014, 01:14:58 AM |
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WANTED, IXCOIN.CO EDITOR Manage and write content for the ixcoin.co website. Manage all the translations that are needed for an international website? Here's the link to the translation tracking tool: https://crowdin.net/project/ixcoinAny volunteers? I can write content if topics are given and can get a large amount of translations.
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January 30, 2014, 01:19:58 AM |
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WANTED, IXCOIN.CO EDITOR Manage and write content for the ixcoin.co website. Manage all the translations that are needed for an international website? Here's the link to the translation tracking tool: https://crowdin.net/project/ixcoinAny volunteers? I can write content if topics are given and can get a large amount of translations. Excellent! I will add you as editor of the site. Also, if you are doing translation, I'll add you as admin for the crowdin translation app.
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January 30, 2014, 03:00:34 AM |
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I hope you'll still be open to coordinating web design and other plans for moving forward with lukeconnell this weekend as he mentioned. I think it would more productive if we can get everyone working together.
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January 30, 2014, 03:40:11 AM |
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WANTED, IXCOIN.CO EDITOR Manage and write content for the ixcoin.co website. Manage all the translations that are needed for an international website? Here's the link to the translation tracking tool: https://crowdin.net/project/ixcoinAny volunteers? I can write content if topics are given and can get a large amount of translations. Man, you just snatched a sweet job. Nice. I may be able to help with some of the writing if it's interesting articles. Maybe for like a vice editor title or whatever would look cool on a business card. Lol.
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iXcoin - Welcome to the F U T U R E!
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January 30, 2014, 04:32:27 AM |
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I'll check it out when I have a chance.
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iXcoin - Welcome to the F U T U R E!
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January 30, 2014, 05:14:27 AM |
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Updated page to be a little more tolerable aesthetically.
Next steps are to switch to a more modern/humanist font (e.g. Open Sans) and to overhaul the menu/title bar a bit. Also the RSS icons aren't showing up. Also planning to up the opacity of the home page scroller a bit. Some of the background images cause text to be unreadable.
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Dans les champs de l'observation le hasard ne favorise que les esprits préparé
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