Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[CryptoGuy]

Note: Not all our competitors supply PSUs and Touch Screen LCDs, therefore if we compare our miners with these we will subtract the price of our extra hardware before the price match.

No one asked you to install touchscreen LCDs... nor was it mentioned in the specs when people placed their orders.

I'd have to agree there, no other miner that I can think of comes with an LCD screen.

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[ChuckBuck]

Note: Not all our competitors supply PSUs and Touch Screen LCDs, therefore if we compare our miners with these we will subtract the price of our extra hardware before the price match.

No one asked you to install touchscreen LCDs... nor was it mentioned in the specs when people placed their orders.

I'd have to agree there, no other miner that I can think of comes with an LCD screen.

The Dragons and the S2 have LCD screens, but not touchscreen.

Unnecessary to have I know, but doubt this tech would hold up the whole manufacturing process causing delays.

[jimmothy]

Note: Not all our competitors supply PSUs and Touch Screen LCDs, therefore if we compare our miners with these we will subtract the price of our extra hardware before the price match.

No one asked you to install touchscreen LCDs... nor was it mentioned in the specs when people placed their orders.

I'd have to agree there, no other miner that I can think of comes with an LCD screen.

Admit it. An lcd display is a nice feature. Assuming it's not too expensive.

I was expecting the original 25% extra so thank you to those of you who complained hard enough.

[eightcylinders]

Note: Not all our competitors supply PSUs and Touch Screen LCDs, therefore if we compare our miners with these we will subtract the price of our extra hardware before the price match.

No one asked you to install touchscreen LCDs... nor was it mentioned in the specs when people placed their orders.

I'd have to agree there, no other miner that I can think of comes with an LCD screen.

Admit it. An lcd display is a nice feature. Assuming it's not too expensive.

I was expecting the original 25% extra so thank you to those of you who complained hard enough.

It's expensive enough where they're outright saying that they're going to subtract the cost when it comes to matching the competition. PSU, sure, subtract it, cuz you need to buy one for an Antminer S1, but subtracting a touchscreen because they felt the need to incorporate one? That's not cool..

They're trying to save every penny, now i wonder how much these screens supposedly cost. Anything over 20$ and im not believing it.

I am willing to give BA a $14 credit towards my comp.  It is a nice feature.  Not more than that though.
https://www.adafruit.com/products/1774

Hey BA, you better hurry because $/Gh is dropping fast with the A1 systems, and Bitmain's continual price cuts.

[Adrians__]

X-3 batch one, 9 BTC anyone?

[ChuckBuck]

What an absolute disaster for Batch 2's that ordered in December.  No compensation, no coupons, just wait until Batch 1 is over and then when those are shipped, Batch 2 just gets left with the scraps.   

[sorehammer]

What an absolute disaster for Batch 2's that ordered in December.  No compensation, no coupons, just wait until Batch 1 is over and then when those are shipped, Batch 2 just gets left with the scraps.   

Yep we pay the same amount, and take just as much risk but batch 1 think they are so much more important just because they order earlier than any one else.

[y_boonstra]

True,

it will cost us all except BA.. so their clients / costumers have to bite the dust..

[Syke]

3.We are keeping our promise to price match per Ghash any genuine new miner in stock at the time of shipment and if needed we will dispatch more hashing power.
Note: Not all our competitors supply PSUs and Touch Screen LCDs, therefore if we compare our miners with these we will subtract the price of our extra hardware before the price match.

Excellent. Bitmain is already shipping miners at $1.5/ghps. So if someone paid $6k for Prosperos, they should be getting at least 4 TH/s right now. In a month when you actually do ship, we're talking more like 5 TH/s. Looking forward to seeing you match the competitors.

[ChuckBuck]

3.We are keeping our promise to price match per Ghash any genuine new miner in stock at the time of shipment and if needed we will dispatch more hashing power.
Note: Not all our competitors supply PSUs and Touch Screen LCDs, therefore if we compare our miners with these we will subtract the price of our extra hardware before the price match.

Excellent. Bitmain is already shipping miners at $1.5/ghps. So if someone paid $6k for Prosperos, they should be getting at least 4 TH/s right now. In a month when you actually do ship, we're talking more like 5 TH/s. Looking forward to seeing you match the competitors.

Basically they should at least double the paid hashrate to be considered fair compensation.  Anything less is unacceptable for Batch 1s.

Batch 2, only days apart from Batch 1, get a kick in the nuts, middle finger, and how ya do!  

[OgNasty]

I'm looking forward to an improved compensation package.  The offer of a <50% refund, or a refund months from now was not appealing.

[Dot99lr]

3.We are keeping our promise to price match per Ghash any genuine new miner in stock at the time of shipment and if needed we will dispatch more hashing power.
Note: Not all our competitors supply PSUs and Touch Screen LCDs, therefore if we compare our miners with these we will subtract the price of our extra hardware before the price match.

Excellent. Bitmain is already shipping miners at $1.5/ghps. So if someone paid $6k for Prosperos, they should be getting at least 4 TH/s right now. In a month when you actually do ship, we're talking more like 5 TH/s. Looking forward to seeing you match the competitors.

I think they mean any new hardware. The S1 uses 2 W/Gh so it's difficult to compare to. Is there any new miners in stock that beat BA's $/gh? If there are, please list them here to bring it to their attention. But they should double the hash for the delay alone. The difficulty will be more than doubled since the original shipping date.

[sirsmokesalot]

That is the only way to make these things actually worth anything, doubling the hash rate, at the very least. They have had ample time to change initial designs around to compensate for such a thing. The 300 dollar price tag for 100 gh/s in September was remarkable. Now, with the price of bitcoin hovering @ 500 for at least the last week and you being able to get an s1 for .85 btc, they are at least 180 gh/s, it makes the offerings black arrow has look rather meager. Excited to hear that things are pressing forth, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

The bar has been set so low in the industry that as long as they provide the hardware they promised they aren't close to the worst hardware company out there. Not that it says much when you look at the type of shit that has taken place, but it is something. Delays are unfortunate and sometimes uncontrollable. What they can control is how they handle the situation afterwards and rectify any issues that arose from the delays.

[ChuckBuck]

3.We are keeping our promise to price match per Ghash any genuine new miner in stock at the time of shipment and if needed we will dispatch more hashing power.
Note: Not all our competitors supply PSUs and Touch Screen LCDs, therefore if we compare our miners with these we will subtract the price of our extra hardware before the price match.

Excellent. Bitmain is already shipping miners at $1.5/ghps. So if someone paid $6k for Prosperos, they should be getting at least 4 TH/s right now. In a month when you actually do ship, we're talking more like 5 TH/s. Looking forward to seeing you match the competitors.

I think they mean any new hardware. The S1 uses 2 W/Gh so it's difficult to compare to. Is there any new miners in stock that beat BA's $/gh? If there are, please list them here to bring it to their attention. But they should double the hash for the delay alone. The difficulty will be more than doubled since the original shipping date.

Do the the Dragon 1T miners count?  They're cheaper than Black Arrow.  $2.75/GH

The Bit-tech Bitmine 1 TH/s miner is also cheaper.  $2.35/GH

The Spondoolies June SP10 is cheaper.  $2.49/GH

The Avalon 820G is another one.  $2.56/GH

Basically Black Arrow has no choice but to make it right, they're late and already beat price wise by their competitors.

[sorehammer]

So no update on improved package then, what a shock 

[david105396]

Dear customers,
 
We would like to apologize for not posting the promised update today. At the moment everyone is extremely busy and the time difference does not help us. However we will post the promised update by Monday. Also please note that the shipping on the 7th of May is for the Minion ASIC chips, not the Prospero miners. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused by the delay of the update.
 
Kind regards,
 
Black Arrow support

[heslo]

Ok, so another delay? When will we see our miners then? I understand you are extremely busy trying to get them out the door however if you've posted here then clearly you have the time to post a new date and a new compensation plan?

[jimmothy]

Ok, so another delay? When will we see our miners then? I understand you are extremely busy trying to get them out the door however if you've posted here then clearly you have the time to post a new date and a new compensation plan?

He never said there was a delay. He just said minion chips shipping =/= prosperos shipping to clear up confusion.

[heslo]

Ok, so another delay? When will we see our miners then? I understand you are extremely busy trying to get them out the door however if you've posted here then clearly you have the time to post a new date and a new compensation plan?

He never said there was a delay. He just said minion chips shipping =/= prosperos shipping to clear up confusion.

If I'm not mistaken, the original update was that they Prosperos would be shipping on May 1st... from what I've read this will not be the case. So to me, this is another delay

[tempestb]

The latest update said the Prospero's would ship on the 8th of May if everything goes right.