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March 17, 2014, 09:28:01 AM
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I thought CfB and CIYAM are working on TF to make it 100% deployed, aren't they?

I am not working on TF at all - but I do think that CfB is going to proceed with it as originally planned.

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March 17, 2014, 09:30:33 AM
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rickyjames makes a lot of sense!! NXT needs a leadership group. Let's call for nominations and then organise for a vote. IMO if CfB is definitely not available (is that certain), then what about Jean-Luc or CIYAM or JL777? Are they available to take over? My gut tells me the problem is not a lack of funds to pay for things - it's inertia, and the weird vibe around BCNext being anonymous.

If not CfB, then Jean-Luc
If not Jean-Luc, then maybe CIYAM
If not CIYAM, then maybe jl777
If not jl777 then ....

We must keep looking until we find a committed lead developer with the skills and motivation to finish the core functionality promised by BCNext and outlined above by rickyjames. We also need a project manager (I nominate rickyjames).

These positions would only need to be filled in the short-medium term.

IMO having a legal exchange in the USA is further down the track. For now just finish the software and leave a legal fiat exchange for the NXT Winklevii.
NXT is decentralized. That means no center. No "leader"

There are a lot of developers working, both independently and cooperatively, on adding value to NXT and completing the core features.

TF is in progress. Parallel Chains is being prepared for. AT is in progress. Digital Goods Store is in progress. There are all the clients. There are all my projects. There are all the websites.

Just what "inertia" are people talking about??? To my knowledge, NXT has MORE developers and active projects than almost any other crypto. I am working on a NXT API development kit that does all the low level work so that people can easily add value by concentrating on the code that adds value, instead of dealing with the common low level issues.

Tools that help developers get stuff done quicker, will let new developers get stuff done quicker. I didnt have to get approval of this from any leader, I just decided to do it. Similarly, other devs can just do stuff without seeking approval from some central authority.

Has nobody understood what Adam Levine (of Lets talk bitcoin) said about NXT??? Whatever is going wrong, there is a lot going right with NXT.

James

I know there is a lot of great development work going on around NXT, so my use of the word 'inertia' was not a good choice - 'uncertainty' about who is doing what work on the 'core' features of NXT probably better describes my current concerns.

I'm getting conflicting messages from you and rickyjames on some things.

You say 'TF is in progress' but earlier today rickyjames said:
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I don't believe anybody is working on TF right now, and certainly not blockchain pruning.  I know Jean-Luc isn't.

If Jean-Luc can confirm that he IS working on TF and blockchain pruning (i.e. and the other basic elements of BCNext's original proposal that got us all excited in the first place) then I'm off to bter asap to buy a lot more NXT while it's dirt cheap. If Jean-Luc isn't working on TF and blockchain pruning etc, then who is? Is CIYAM working on the core stuff? If yes, is he being adequately compensated. Rumour has it Jean-Luc was an original stakeholder, but what about the other developers?

Who needs to be paid? I sure hope you are getting paid well for all your great work jl777!!
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why that shit coin is crashed?HuhHuhHuhHuh??

Funadamental analisys
Jesus says in Luke 6:48, "He is like a man who built a house. He dug deep to put the building on rock. When the water came up and the river beat against the house, the building could not be shaken because it was built on rock."

nxt is built on rock?

Technical analisys
In Chapter 14 of Proverbs, we are given solid advice. It says, "The naive believe everything . . . but a wise man looks well into a matter."

technical indicators are well?

Sentimental analisys
"Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful."

buy now or sell now?  Grin
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March 17, 2014, 09:34:20 AM
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Oh my...  if I only had 50 BTC right now!!!     Cry Cry Cry

I just got some bitcoins and bought more.
but I can only get more bitcoins by tomorrow, I am hoping the prise won't rise too quickly until then  Roll Eyes
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March 17, 2014, 09:34:40 AM
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I will gladly accept all your apologies.

This said it is not over yet, they will dump to 0.

So if you have small stake left get out while you still get something for it.

They have made a walking zombie of nxt, and it will drop dead within days now, reasons:

No interest of the masses
No future development and continuation
No vision
No results
Failing marketing
No real use for nxt, what does nxt offer other than others?

I have made a lot of money on nxt as an investor and early adopter,
stage was set so that we were the only ones to make money on nxt.

There will be even whales that haven’t made money cos they didn’t sold the fools.

Future of nxt is to hit 0 again and with some luck become a pump and dump coin like all others in best case.

In worst case nobody will talk about nxt anymore within 2 months
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March 17, 2014, 09:36:45 AM
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rickyjames makes a lot of sense!! NXT needs a leadership group. Let's call for nominations and then organise for a vote. IMO if CfB is definitely not available (is that certain), then what about Jean-Luc or CIYAM or JL777? Are they available to take over? My gut tells me the problem is not a lack of funds to pay for things - it's inertia, and the weird vibe around BCNext being anonymous.

If not CfB, then Jean-Luc
If not Jean-Luc, then maybe CIYAM
If not CIYAM, then maybe jl777
If not jl777 then ....

We must keep looking until we find a committed lead developer with the skills and motivation to finish the core functionality promised by BCNext and outlined above by rickyjames. We also need a project manager (I nominate rickyjames).

These positions would only need to be filled in the short-medium term.

IMO having a legal exchange in the USA is further down the track. For now just finish the software and leave a legal fiat exchange for the NXT Winklevii.
NXT is decentralized. That means no center. No "leader"

There are a lot of developers working, both independently and cooperatively, on adding value to NXT and completing the core features.

TF is in progress. Parallel Chains is being prepared for. AT is in progress. Digital Goods Store is in progress. There are all the clients. There are all my projects. There are all the websites.

Just what "inertia" are people talking about??? To my knowledge, NXT has MORE developers and active projects than almost any other crypto. I am working on a NXT API development kit that does all the low level work so that people can easily add value by concentrating on the code that adds value, instead of dealing with the common low level issues.

Tools that help developers get stuff done quicker, will let new developers get stuff done quicker. I didnt have to get approval of this from any leader, I just decided to do it. Similarly, other devs can just do stuff without seeking approval from some central authority.

Has nobody understood what Adam Levine (of Lets talk bitcoin) said about NXT??? Whatever is going wrong, there is a lot going right with NXT.

James

I know there is a lot of great development work going on around NXT, so my use of the word 'inertia' was not a good choice - 'uncertainty' about who is doing what work on the 'core' features of NXT probably better describes my current concerns.

I'm getting conflicting messages from you and rickyjames on some things.

You say 'TF is in progress' but earlier today rickyjames said:
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I don't believe anybody is working on TF right now, and certainly not blockchain pruning.  I know Jean-Luc isn't.

If Jean-Luc can confirm that he IS working on TF and blockchain pruning (i.e. and the other basic elements of BCNext's original proposal that got us all excited in the first place) then I'm off to bter asap to buy a lot more NXT while it's dirt cheap. If Jean-Luc isn't working on TF and blockchain pruning etc, then who is? Is CIYAM working on the core stuff? If yes, is he being adequately compensated. Rumour has it Jean-Luc was an original stakeholder, but what about the other developers?

Who needs to be paid? I sure hope you are getting paid well for all your great work jl777!!


im a graphic designer and can do all the design artwork! im not very active on bitcointalk.. even more in the nextcoin.org german section.
i created that page www.nextcoin24.org for german users.

i want to support it want to help to get next higher and higher!

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March 17, 2014, 09:41:12 AM
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I thought CfB and CIYAM are working on TF to make it 100% deployed, aren't they?

I am not working on TF at all - but I do think that CfB is going to proceed with it as originally planned.


Thanks for confirming that your ARE NOT working on TF CIYAM!

Now, for the sake of all the nervous NXT holders, can CfB and Jean-Luc confirm that one or both of them IS working on TF? If their answers are no, then we have a problem, coz that would mean nobody is working on this 'core' feature of NXT.

CIYAM, are you available to work on TF if need be, assuming adequate compensation?

Come on people, I like the decentralised nature of NXT too, and ultimately it will make NXT impossible to knock over in the near future, but right now we need a 'go to man' to keep track of the 'big picture' - who is doing what, and how are they being compensated.

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March 17, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
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I thought CfB and CIYAM are working on TF to make it 100% deployed, aren't they?

I am not working on TF at all - but I do think that CfB is going to proceed with it as originally planned.


Thanks for confirming that your ARE NOT working on TF CIYAM!

Now, for the sake of all the nervous NXT holders, can CfB and Jean-Luc confirm that one or both of them IS working on TF? If their answers are no, then we have a problem, coz that would mean nobody is working on this 'core' feature of NXT.

CIYAM, are you available to work on TF if need be, assuming adequate compensation?

Come on people, I like the decentralised nature of NXT too, and ultimately it will make NXT impossible to knock over in the near future, but right now we need a 'go to man' to keep track of the 'big picture' - who is doing what, and how are they being compensated.




https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/branch/feature/tf
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March 17, 2014, 09:47:37 AM
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I thought CfB and CIYAM are working on TF to make it 100% deployed, aren't they?

I am not working on TF at all - but I do think that CfB is going to proceed with it as originally planned.


Aye, I became tired of all these useless discussions (what and how to do) and going to stick to the initial plan. I'll quit a little bit later (not on the 3rd of April), coz I can't complete all planned tasks by that date.
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March 17, 2014, 09:50:53 AM
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I thought CfB and CIYAM are working on TF to make it 100% deployed, aren't they?

I am not working on TF at all - but I do think that CfB is going to proceed with it as originally planned.


Aye, I became tired of all these useless discussions (what and how to do) and going to stick to the initial plan. I'll quit a little bit later (not on the 3rd of April), coz I can't complete all planned tasks by that date.
Finally.. Thank you. Smiley

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March 17, 2014, 09:52:33 AM
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I thought CfB and CIYAM are working on TF to make it 100% deployed, aren't they?

I am not working on TF at all - but I do think that CfB is going to proceed with it as originally planned.


Aye, I became tired of all these useless discussions (what and how to do) and going to stick to the initial plan. I'll quit a little bit later (not on the 3rd of April), coz I can't complete all planned tasks by that date.

good, thank you very much for all your hard work

BTW, when we switch thing to binary, how many TPS can we get? any ideas?
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March 17, 2014, 09:53:30 AM
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BTW, when we switch thing to binary, how many TPS can we get? any ideas?

I would do it gradually: 10 tps, then 100 tps, then 1000 tps.
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March 17, 2014, 09:54:55 AM
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I thought CfB and CIYAM are working on TF to make it 100% deployed, aren't they?

I am not working on TF at all - but I do think that CfB is going to proceed with it as originally planned.


Aye, I became tired of all these useless discussions (what and how to do) and going to stick to the initial plan. I'll quit a little bit later (not on the 3rd of April), coz I can't complete all planned tasks by that date.

Major positive,
NXT UP UP
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Major positive,
NXT UP UP

Hm... Don't relax too much, continue searching for other Java developers.
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March 17, 2014, 09:59:50 AM
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Everybody says BCNext/Ukigo has totally left the project, so HE isn't working on it.  THere's NOBODY ELSE doing core dev work, which is why HIRING / RECRUITING MORE OUTSIDE JAVA PROGRAMMERS (rather than dangling bounties in front of insiders) is the most important thing to do with the techdev fund.  

BCNext == Ukigo? Excuse me, what news did I miss?

It's just a quess. Ukigo is a Russian speaking person, so I doubt he is BCNext.
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March 17, 2014, 10:00:49 AM
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Everybody says BCNext/Ukigo has totally left the project, so HE isn't working on it.  THere's NOBODY ELSE doing core dev work, which is why HIRING / RECRUITING MORE OUTSIDE JAVA PROGRAMMERS (rather than dangling bounties in front of insiders) is the most important thing to do with the techdev fund.  

BCNext == Ukigo? Excuse me, what news did I miss?

maybe its from this Huh not sure how accurate it may be though

well, our Messiah told it clearly, but still, - only "at least now":

quote author=BCNext link=topic=303898.msg3413767#msg3413767 date=1382764982
Nxt has such features as

# Instant transactions ("0-confirmation transactions")
# Anonymity of IP address send transactions & mining blocks (with Tor or the cloud client)
# P2P exchange BTC (with colored coins)
# Faster difficulty changes (adjusted each block)
# Name doesn't contain "coin", "cash", "kash", "money", "dollar",  nor "bit" (at least now, Nxt is a codename)

VISA scale volume can be achieved with 32 Mbps connection.

I can not give an answer regarding Zerocoin/CoinJoin now, I am not very familiar with these concepts.

But this has got some history, so the time has changes (but not sure if it is better now Cheesy )

quote author=Ukigo link=topic=183000.msg1909838#msg1909838 date=1366625491

Hi all !
For new proposed "inflationary" fork of PPCoin,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157994.0
we need to coin REALLY good name.

There are 3 rules  :

1) The name of the fork should NOT contain
 these particles : "coin", "money", "cash", "bit", byte". ( some other disallowed syllables might be added here later ).

2) The name of the coin should NOT be
 trademarked, registered, copyrighted,
 or patented.


Huh.  Thanks, Salsa, suddenly I think I'm a better detective than I thought I was.


Hey C-f-B...  is there any chance we get BCNext's 3rd plan ahead of schedule?    Roll Eyes

...it will make more sense to decide/agree on modifications once we have the full picture...

Ask him directly. Salsacz knows his real account.

Let me clarify.  I do not claim to know his REAL identity either.  However, BCNext himself has acknowledged being a long time poster at BCT under another user ID.  I believe I know that BCT user ID.  Do you know that?

If so, one day I will send you an anonymous message on the NXT blockchain revisiting this topic.

Let's play the game but we fix the weak points in such a way:

1. U post ur guess in this thread, I'll answer it publicly as well.
2. I tell TRUE or FALSE according to my guess regarding the real identity of BCNext.

PS: And then u'll tell why u think so, ok?

OK.

I think BTNext's previously used BCT username was/is Ukigo.

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March 17, 2014, 10:03:58 AM
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Ricky and others worried about speed...
In case you missed it this is the reply I was hoping for from CIYAM...

1. We can add capacity to NXT - important point - as it needs it, which means we don't need to bloat the chain unnecessarily
2. With TF we can add capacity up to 100tps  which is beyond any other crypto - although with up to 60s for confirmation because of the block speed.
3. Parallel chains enable us to implement parallel processing units so we then multiply the capacity of one chain by how many copies we run..

So it looks like we can do the speed and we can add it in stages..

Assuming this gets done.. those dumping NXT may well regret it.... YUB YUB YUB

1. great to hear the 250 per block and therefore minute can be changed easily to add more capacity per minute?
2. can you clarify how TF helps. is that because clients can know where to send the transaction so it can get to the forging node quicker to be included or is there some other reason why TF enables more transactions per block?
3. we still have (worst case) 60s latency - is there any solution to this other than more blocks per minute?

1. Yes the constant 250 is trivially changed (although how much bigger we make that is something we'll need to consider).

2. TF helps not just because you can send more directly but because it is expected those nodes would be running on high bandwidth connections.

3. There is no real solution to the latency problem in the internet apart from centralisation. TF helps us by basically acting as a compromise - we trade off some decentralisation in order to get higher throughput.

BTW parallel chains allows you to multiply the TPM by the number of chains you are supporting so more high powered TF nodes could become "super nodes".


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March 17, 2014, 10:05:22 AM
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I thought CfB and CIYAM are working on TF to make it 100% deployed, aren't they?

I am not working on TF at all - but I do think that CfB is going to proceed with it as originally planned.


Aye, I became tired of all these useless discussions (what and how to do) and going to stick to the initial plan. I'll quit a little bit later (not on the 3rd of April), coz I can't complete all planned tasks by that date.

Excellent news , thanks CfB! Are you being paid for the extra work?
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March 17, 2014, 10:08:19 AM
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BTW, when we switch thing to binary, how many TPS can we get? any ideas?

I would do it gradually: 10 tps, then 100 tps, then 1000 tps.

See, guys, Nxt will be very successful.
I never worried about the price of Nxt, In fact, I always hope it can hold back for some time so that I can buy more  Wink
like what BCNext said, don't pay much attention to the price

Yes, we indeed need more core devs.
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Excellent news , thanks CfB! Are you being paid for the extra work?

No, but I have some NXTs, so I'm a little interested in success of Nxt. Smiley
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