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February 28, 2013, 09:09:33 AM
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I'm having problems using sendmany -> https://blockchain.info/api/json_rpc_api.

Nvm, I had insufficient funds.
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February 28, 2013, 12:20:55 PM
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Here is a transaction that was one Satoshi for input, one Satoshi output and obviously then, no fee.
 - https://blockchain.info/tx/1064fedccbb1225d6879c79a58e59cda795d4023da140f2ad0bc4c189e5e373f

It never made it into a block.  It was sent via Blockchain.info/wallet I'm told.  It doesn't have an invalid input (double spend), so I would presume the Blockchain.info back-end bitcoin daemon would keep trying to re-broadcast the transaction with it not being included in any blocks.  

Then recently that transaction output was used in a new spend transaction:
 - https://blockchain.info/tx/bfe3df19956eabd8c1b87bf1cde1a1526abb80a9bf3320ee838c05edd4a1138f

Of course, this new transaction won't confirm because one of the inputs hasn't confirmed.   But since that earlier transaction isn't still being re-broadcast (persumably, maybe it is but no nodes it is connected to will relay it) then no miners will ever include the earlier transaction and this transaction will never confirm as well.  But that leaves the Blockchain.info/wallet user stuck -- the Blockchain.info/wallet see those 512+ BTC as being spent and won't let the user spend them in a new transaction.

What methods to resolve this are available?

[Edit: Here's the thread with the request for assistance:

512 btc in a transaction that will never confirm, need help
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147519.0 ]

just a correction, the transaction 1064fedccbb1225d6879c79a58e59cda795d4023da140f2ad0bc4c189e5e373f was not sent through blockchain.info wallet. This transaction is an automatic transaction that an address created with http://blockchain.info/api/api_receive sent after receiving this satoshi from other transaction.

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February 28, 2013, 01:20:39 PM
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That is if you enabled anonymous payments.
How do you enable anonymous payments?  I looked through all the settings and could not find anything.  The anon payment option used to just show up in the send money menu but that option is no longer there.

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February 28, 2013, 01:21:53 PM
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That is if you enabled anonymous payments.
How do you enable anonymous payments?  I looked through all the settings and could not find anything.  The anon payment option used to just show up in the send money menu but that option is no longer there.
If you do not set anonymous=false it defaults to on.
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February 28, 2013, 01:26:55 PM
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Here is a transaction that was one Satoshi for input, one Satoshi output and obviously then, no fee.
 - https://blockchain.info/tx/1064fedccbb1225d6879c79a58e59cda795d4023da140f2ad0bc4c189e5e373f

It never made it into a block.  It was sent via Blockchain.info/wallet I'm told.  It doesn't have an invalid input (double spend), so I would presume the Blockchain.info back-end bitcoin daemon would keep trying to re-broadcast the transaction with it not being included in any blocks.  

Then recently that transaction output was used in a new spend transaction:
 - https://blockchain.info/tx/bfe3df19956eabd8c1b87bf1cde1a1526abb80a9bf3320ee838c05edd4a1138f

Of course, this new transaction won't confirm because one of the inputs hasn't confirmed.   But since that earlier transaction isn't still being re-broadcast (persumably, maybe it is but no nodes it is connected to will relay it) then no miners will ever include the earlier transaction and this transaction will never confirm as well.  But that leaves the Blockchain.info/wallet user stuck -- the Blockchain.info/wallet see those 512+ BTC as being spent and won't let the user spend them in a new transaction.

What methods to resolve this are available?

[Edit: Here's the thread with the request for assistance:

512 btc in a transaction that will never confirm, need help
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147519.0 ]

just a correction, the transaction 1064fedccbb1225d6879c79a58e59cda795d4023da140f2ad0bc4c189e5e373f was not sent through blockchain.info wallet. This transaction is an automatic transaction that an address created with http://blockchain.info/api/api_receive sent after receiving this satoshi from other transaction.

This could be avoided if blockchain.info would only count towards your balance confirmed inputs, like the reference client does. This would spoil the fun of gamblers spending long chains of unconfirmed transactions though.

The user is also waiting on a transaction that was sent from blockchain.info without the minimum per-kB fee.

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February 28, 2013, 01:30:20 PM
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That is if you enabled anonymous payments.
How do you enable anonymous payments?  I looked through all the settings and could not find anything.  The anon payment option used to just show up in the send money menu but that option is no longer there.
If you do not set anonymous=false it defaults to on.
This sounds like you are talking about an API.  I am asking about the web interface at blockchain.info

Through the web interface at blockchain.info I used to be able to do anon transfers, now I can't.  What is up?

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February 28, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
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That is if you enabled anonymous payments.
How do you enable anonymous payments?  I looked through all the settings and could not find anything.  The anon payment option used to just show up in the send money menu but that option is no longer there.
If you do not set anonymous=false it defaults to on.
This sounds like you are talking about an API.  I am asking about the web interface at blockchain.info

Through the web interface at blockchain.info I used to be able to do anon transfers, now I can't.  What is up?


It was removed in the last few days, no word from piuk yet why.. in fact he is MIA for a few days now.

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February 28, 2013, 01:47:05 PM
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It was removed in the last few days, no word from piuk yet why.. in fact he is MIA for a few days now.
He (or someone that works for him) has tweeted this 20 hours ago:
https://twitter.com/blockchain/status/306817149459107840

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February 28, 2013, 01:48:43 PM
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It was removed in the last few days, no word from piuk yet why.. in fact he is MIA for a few days now.
He (or someone that works for him) has tweeted this 20 hours ago:
https://twitter.com/blockchain/status/306817149459107840
That's for Bitinstant deposits, not anonymous payments..
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February 28, 2013, 01:50:43 PM
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I was obviously referring to the MIA status Wink

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February 28, 2013, 02:35:20 PM
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Here is a transaction that was one Satoshi for input, one Satoshi output and obviously then, no fee.
 - https://blockchain.info/tx/1064fedccbb1225d6879c79a58e59cda795d4023da140f2ad0bc4c189e5e373f

It never made it into a block.  It was sent via Blockchain.info/wallet I'm told.  It doesn't have an invalid input (double spend), so I would presume the Blockchain.info back-end bitcoin daemon would keep trying to re-broadcast the transaction with it not being included in any blocks.  

Then recently that transaction output was used in a new spend transaction:
 - https://blockchain.info/tx/bfe3df19956eabd8c1b87bf1cde1a1526abb80a9bf3320ee838c05edd4a1138f

Of course, this new transaction won't confirm because one of the inputs hasn't confirmed.   But since that earlier transaction isn't still being re-broadcast (persumably, maybe it is but no nodes it is connected to will relay it) then no miners will ever include the earlier transaction and this transaction will never confirm as well.  But that leaves the Blockchain.info/wallet user stuck -- the Blockchain.info/wallet see those 512+ BTC as being spent and won't let the user spend them in a new transaction.

What methods to resolve this are available?

[Edit: Here's the thread with the request for assistance:

512 btc in a transaction that will never confirm, need help
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147519.0 ]

just a correction, the transaction 1064fedccbb1225d6879c79a58e59cda795d4023da140f2ad0bc4c189e5e373f was not sent through blockchain.info wallet. This transaction is an automatic transaction that an address created with http://blockchain.info/api/api_receive sent after receiving this satoshi from other transaction.

This could be avoided if blockchain.info would only count towards your balance confirmed inputs, like the reference client does. This would spoil the fun of gamblers spending long chains of unconfirmed transactions though.

The user is also waiting on a transaction that was sent from blockchain.info without the minimum per-kB fee.

I agree with you. If the Send Money section of blockchain.info had a check box saying "Only use Confirmed Transactions", I would have remembered the previous transaction of 1 satoshi that won't be confirmed.

But I solved my problem importing the private keys of the addresses to my bitcoin original client and creating a transaction using 4x the default fee for KB.

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February 28, 2013, 03:29:17 PM
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Not MIA. I'll post an update regarding send anon soon.

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February 28, 2013, 04:14:19 PM
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Not MIA. I'll post an update regarding send anon soon.

Hopefully it's something exciting. And post a video.

If it's not already known, piuk is the man.

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February 28, 2013, 04:36:07 PM
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Not MIA. I'll post an update regarding send anon soon.

Btw if you need someone to handle all these PR avenues(forum, twitter, FB, ect) for you PM me and maybe I can help you with that.

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February 28, 2013, 10:56:28 PM
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Looking forward to the update about the disappearance of anon sending option.

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March 01, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
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Not MIA. I'll post an update regarding send anon soon.

27.5 hours later . . .

Define soon.

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March 01, 2013, 07:26:26 PM
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Not MIA. I'll post an update regarding send anon soon.

27.5 hours later . . .

Define soon.

Once we get out of the bumping facility, we should have something shipped next week at the latest.

Oops, sorry, wrong thread.

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March 01, 2013, 08:34:17 PM
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Really disappointing to see no update on this?

How can you take such a popular feature off your website without even telling people if its temporary or down indefinitely.

Only thing I can think of is Blockchain catching heat for facilitating the anonymity portion which is what bitcoin stands for...

Friendly government officials have a word with you piuk?
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March 01, 2013, 08:35:51 PM
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Even just a post saying "it's not permanently down" would be nice ...

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March 01, 2013, 09:07:07 PM
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Btw anonymous sending is back in the firefox extension.

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