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[jwinterm]

guys, what pool(s) you mine VTC with ?

I haven't been mining for half a year, and can't find any alive pool neither P2Pool nor "common". I know about the list http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/, but most of them are dead. I've tried several but they don't show my address in "currently mining" list.

And also, point me please where I can read about those three VTC networks (how do they work together??). I missed a lot, and can't figure things out myself

You can try here too: http://p2pools.org/vtc
The three p2pool networks are intended to be for different size miners: 1st network (port 9171) is for big miners 2+ Mh/s, 2nd network (port 9172) is for medium miners 1-2 Mh/s, and third network (port 9174) is for small miners < 1 Mh/s. If you see them pop up on http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/ then they should be alive I think.

Another pool you can try is https://pool.verters.com/index.php . Solid pool run by long time vert supporter.

[randywald]

I mine vertcoins with:

http://give-me-coins.com/
https://give-me-coins.com/pool/auth

I have 800 kh/s. Pool works very reliable. Never had a problem.

[blade87]

...getting relentlessly raped...

Maybe a bit strong with the imagery there. I think it mostly has to do with people being unsure if developers are actually implementing the new algorithm that the announced, since they've been pretty much silent for one month+ now. Some people think they are, and those people are holding and/or buying, and some folks are losing faith and dumping.

Take a look at the 1 day VTC chart and just how unhealthy it looks : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/vtcbtc

Then come compare it to BlackCoin, DarkCoin, DogeCoin, and PeerCoin. See the difference? The four former got just as beat up as VTC did coming down off their peaks. But with active communities and active developers, they rallied when their long term down trends were finally broken. VTC broke it's down trend, and just continued flat. Now its falling again.

I hope the developers of VTC see this, and just how damaging how not saying something as simple as, "hey we are still here" ends up being. I doubt this was their intention, but the proof is now there and needs to be addressed for the future. Another coin where the devs went completely MIA and is now in a similar situation (just on a much shorter time scale) is CLOAK. Though that one is more likely a flat out scam where as VTC is not, the end result is still the same due to missing devs. If VTC has active developers constantly updating their new algo status, I am almost certain it would have some kind of rally instead of flat-lining.

[sobaka007]

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The three p2pool networks are intended to be for different size miners: 1st network (port 9171) is for big miners 2+ Mh/s, 2nd network (port 9172) is for medium miners 1-2 Mh/s, and third network (port 9174) is for small miners < 1 Mh/s...
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are hashrates for total rig power? say if I have two rigs 800 kH/s each, which network should I stick?

[jwinterm]

...getting relentlessly raped...

Maybe a bit strong with the imagery there. I think it mostly has to do with people being unsure if developers are actually implementing the new algorithm that the announced, since they've been pretty much silent for one month+ now. Some people think they are, and those people are holding and/or buying, and some folks are losing faith and dumping.

Take a look at the 1 day VTC chart and just how unhealthy it looks : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/vtcbtc

Then come compare it to BlackCoin, DarkCoin, DogeCoin, and PeerCoin. See the difference? The four former got just as beat up as VTC did coming down off their peaks. But with active communities and active developers, they rallied when their long term down trends were finally broken. VTC broke it's down trend, and just continued flat. Now its falling again.

I hope the developers of VTC see this, and just how damaging how not saying something as simple as, "hey we are still here" ends up being. I doubt this was their intention, but the proof is now there and needs to be addressed for the future. Another coin where the devs went completely MIA and is now in a similar situation (just on a much shorter time scale) is CLOAK.

Lead developer just posted on reddit explaining why he hasn't posted here in a while: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2hn22c/a_little_hope_for_the_hopeless_and_anyone_getting/

I also think the recent silence from dev(s) has a bit to do with just trying to get away from the constant arguing that was taking place over changing coin emission, but that's just speculation.

Also, if you look here https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/vtcbtc and set it to 1-week chart and MACD as indicator, you will see that there was a crossover a few weeks ago, not that I'm really a believer in TA stuff, but it is a positive indicator.

[jwinterm]

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The three p2pool networks are intended to be for different size miners: 1st network (port 9171) is for big miners 2+ Mh/s, 2nd network (port 9172) is for medium miners 1-2 Mh/s, and third network (port 9174) is for small miners < 1 Mh/s...
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are hashrates for total rig power? say if I have two rigs 800 kH/s each, which network should I stick?

If the two rigs are mining to the same address, then combined power. I'd probably go for 2nd network.

[MaxDZ8]

are hashrates for total rig power? say if I have two rigs 800 kH/s each, which network should I stick?

If the two rigs are mining to the same address, then combined power. I'd probably go for 2nd network.

Are you sure the node will adjust difficulty to the hashrate? If not, both miners will get diff too high and will miss a shareblock.
I'm not sure p2pool nodes use diff adjustment extensively.

[jwinterm]

are hashrates for total rig power? say if I have two rigs 800 kH/s each, which network should I stick?

If the two rigs are mining to the same address, then combined power. I'd probably go for 2nd network.

Are you sure the node will adjust difficulty to the hashrate? If not, both miners will get diff too high and will miss a shareblock.
I'm not sure p2pool nodes use diff adjustment extensively.

Not 100%, but either way, you should be fine mining on 2nd network with 800 kh/s I think.

[cubevtc]

are hashrates for total rig power? say if I have two rigs 800 kH/s each, which network should I stick?

If the two rigs are mining to the same address, then combined power. I'd probably go for 2nd network.

Are you sure the node will adjust difficulty to the hashrate? If not, both miners will get diff too high and will miss a shareblock.
I'm not sure p2pool nodes use diff adjustment extensively.

No.  They do not. If  you need vardiff (auto-diff adjustment), try one of the Proxypools which feeds into P2Pool.  I have a Proxypool running at http://pool.cubeconnex.com. You may like to give it a try.

[cubevtc]

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Lead developer just posted on reddit explaining why he hasn't posted here in a while: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2hn22c/a_little_hope_for_the_hopeless_and_anyone_getting/
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With the appearance of the lead dev, the recent 'doom-days' posts by the trolls, FUDs and the fearful ones can finally be put to rest.  

[BBristow79]

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Lead developer just posted on reddit explaining why he hasn't posted here in a while: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2hn22c/a_little_hope_for_the_hopeless_and_anyone_getting/
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With the appearance of the lead dev, the recent 'doom-days' posts by the trolls, FUDs and the fearful ones can finally be put to rest.  

I have faith they will find something else to complain about. On the flip side it's nice to hear from them. Looks like they have their hands full with the upcoming changes.

[voephilis]

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Lead developer just posted on reddit explaining why he hasn't posted here in a while: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2hn22c/a_little_hope_for_the_hopeless_and_anyone_getting/
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With the appearance of the lead dev, the recent 'doom-days' posts by the trolls, FUDs and the fearful ones can finally be put to rest.  

I have faith they will find something else to complain about. On the flip side it's nice to hear from them. Looks like they have their hands full with the upcoming changes.

great! if we keep up the traffic in here and do some advertisement vert will turn the corner sooner or later

[IIpeBeD_MeDBeD]

ASIC resistant?
lie, lie, lie!
SCAM!
read the comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D1GSKnJLcDg

[bholzer]

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Lead developer just posted on reddit explaining why he hasn't posted here in a while: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2hn22c/a_little_hope_for_the_hopeless_and_anyone_getting/
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With the appearance of the lead dev, the recent 'doom-days' posts by the trolls, FUDs and the fearful ones can finally be put to rest.  

In my experience, attempting to please the people having panic attacks is hopeless. They each sit around with their hand out complaining and at some point, as a developer, you have to just begin ignoring them. They contribute to the destabilization of the currency, unfortunately, but it's unavoidable. They do not understand the planning and effort that goes into moving things forward and nothing will make them truly understand. Even though the majority of them are actually invested in the very currency they are disrupting, they lack the cognition required to realize their contributions negatively impact morale, the community, creativity, and progress while increasing frustration for all and driving away new interest. A large percentage of their growing frustration is a direct result of their own actions. As an example, I have been receiving a consistent flow of hate mail (literally) for months due to the ongoing delays I have encountered attempting to secure an official endorsement for Murraycoin - eventually I simply stopped reading the messages. I am doing everything I can to move things along as quickly as possible - why add to the problem?

VTC will be just fine - it's important to realize negative people tend to make more noise but that doesn't necessarily mean they represent the majority. Yes, we need to reverse the ongoing trend... but there are constructive ways to approach things and it's time to begin shifting focus toward the positive aspects of VTC and the talented developer(s) involved. Impatience is a staple of the cryptocurrency world and grey matter, for whatever reason, is seemingly at a premium.

[voephilis]

ASIC resistant?
lie, lie, lie!
SCAM!
read the comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D1GSKnJLcDg

calm down. It`s not confirmed from KnC that they can mine n scrypt. But probably he got a updated version because he bought a lot
I actually know these guys and will contact them. They are from Hamburg.

Probably thats the reason our prices are declining

[styxical]

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Lead developer just posted on reddit explaining why he hasn't posted here in a while: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2hn22c/a_little_hope_for_the_hopeless_and_anyone_getting/
...

With the appearance of the lead dev, the recent 'doom-days' posts by the trolls, FUDs and the fearful ones can finally be put to rest.  

In my experience, attempting to please the people having panic attacks is hopeless. They each sit around with their hand out complaining and at some point, as a developer, you have to just begin ignoring them. They contribute to the destabilization of the currency, unfortunately, but it's unavoidable. They do not understand the planning and effort that goes into moving things forward and nothing will make them truly understand. Even though the majority of them are actually invested in the very currency they are disrupting, they lack the cognition required to realize their contributions negatively impact morale, the community, creativity, and progress while increasing frustration for all and driving away new interest. A large percentage of their growing frustration is a direct result of their own actions. As an example, I have been receiving a consistent flow of hate mail (literally) for months due to the ongoing delays I have encountered attempting to secure an official endorsement for Murraycoin - eventually I simply stopped reading the messages. I am doing everything I can to move things along as quickly as possible - why add to the problem?

VTC will be just fine - it's important to realize negative people tend to make more noise but that doesn't necessarily mean they represent the majority. Yes, we need to reverse the ongoing trend... but there are constructive ways to approach things and it's time to begin shifting focus toward the positive aspects of VTC and the talented developer(s) involved. Impatience is a staple of the cryptocurrency world and grey matter, for whatever reason, is seemingly at a premium.

For some reason you're implying that it's immature or whatnot to want reassurance that one's investment is in good hands. Because that's what this coin is to a lot of people - it's an investment in the fundamentals advertised in the coin. I think it's perfectly natural to want reassurance in one's investment and I don't think it's too much to ask for an open line of communication between those driving the car and those riding along in the back seat. The fact that the devs don't interact here or Reddit or anywhere else that I've seen will be the undoing of an otherwise revolutionary coin.

[duncan_idaho]

In my opinion dev should write here something like that:

Hello everybody, We live. We dont go anywhere. Calm down, smoke weed, we are working on lyra2 etc etc.

[kahir]

In my opinion dev should write here something like that:

Hello everybody, We live. We dont go anywhere. Calm down, smoke weed, we are working on lyra2 etc etc.

i think team is more of Reddit Blogs kind of guys ...

also this start to feel like waiting for zeta ann lmao

[Cryptobro]

In my opinion dev should write here something like that:

Hello everybody, We live. We dont go anywhere. Calm down, smoke weed, we are working on lyra2 etc etc.

Absolutely this.

the comments from the lead Dev on reddit don't indicate to me work is ongoing...in fact it's quite the opposite. I read that Vert development is on hold while Bushido is sorting stuff out (fair enough if that's the case!).
He also basically offered for someone to take over...

A definitive statement on the current state of work would be welcomed.

[cubevtc]

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A definitive statement on the current state of work would be welcomed.
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Well.. I thought Bushido's statement is definitive enough.  He stated that he has to prioritise the issues affecting his life and can only work on the algo change on his spare time.  If we, the community members want the change to develop faster then it is UP TO US to find a solution - finding developers and funding them to make things happen.  

It is now up to the Vertcoin community.