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October 18, 2015, 05:31:02 PM


https://dashtalk.org/threads/qwizzies-cryptogram-puzzle-round-3.6372/

Round 3 is a go !!

* to keep things official (and organised) pls post the solution on the dashtalk forum...
* will toknormal break his personal record of 20 minutes ?
* will calnaughtonjnr break his personal record of 18 minutes ?
* will stan.distortion melt his poor old wrinkled brain trying to solve it ?
* will qwizzie finally come up with a puzzle nobody can solve ?



I will be very impressed if anyone solves this one under 20 minutes...

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Last edit: October 18, 2015, 05:57:18 PM by qwizzie


https://dashtalk.org/threads/qwizzies-cryptogram-puzzle-round-3.6372/

Round 3 is a go !!

* to keep things official (and organised) pls post the solution on the dashtalk forum...
* will toknormal break his personal record of 20 minutes ?
* will calnaughtonjnr break his personal record of 18 minutes ?
* will stan.distortion melt his poor old wrinkled brain trying to solve it ?
* will qwizzie finally come up with a puzzle nobody can solve ?

I will be very impressed if anyone solves this one under 20 minutes...

and boy am i impressed !! winner calnaughtonjnr
congratz

https://dashtalk.org/threads/qwizzies-cryptogram-puzzle-round-3.6372/#post-71062



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October 18, 2015, 06:19:30 PM

Hi,
I've produced the unofficial interpretation of our official «What is Dash?» video.

First Dash Music Video!

Maximum repost, please! Let's get 1.000.000 views! Wink

To support my unofficial promotions, please donate DASH to: XxG6WRPA5ef767m37eEbGjK8T1UPAVGdCq

Monero have got you for advertising and we have this.

so... You guys have pretty ladies and we have real decent working technology that is appreciated by several well known reputable people
If you want snake oil covered girls, great. Go for it.
We have decent tech, no girls. I can live with that.

The point I was making, it is going to take more than one guy handing out leaflets at someone else's presentation to market a product.

No matter how good your tech is (debatable), do you think Joe Public are really interested in the highly technical stuff behind the scenes, perhaps handing out leaflets with Monero source code at a another gate crashed meeting would be considered a hi-end marketing approach, you can of course expect people to fall over in swathes of adoration because your code is just soo good, it will even make guys faint at the merest glimpse, its that good in fact that no real marketing at all is required, zip.

I have an idea, you could perhaps hack the wifi projector at this meeting?
http://btcmiami.com/speakers/

You do realise that any spam you manage to push into people's faces will be out of date by the time you get it together, yes?

I admit one thing about you guys that is more anonymous, and that is your team, apart from the marketing guru (i.e. you),
nobody knows anyone else, do you think everyone can remain anonymous and still get the whole world to use Monero?

Just because Satoshi managed anonymous does not mean others can follow suit, almost all of the successful coins have known developers, exactly who is it you have again, Smooth or Smoothie, fluffypony?

At some point if you want to market your coin, it will take more than gate crashing/trolling/faking other peoples meetings/threads/personal space with cheap flyers to get your cultish agenda across, what is it you have planned again to help sell your 'product' ??

have a nice day,

Sub-Ether.

P.S. hope to see you again at the next meeting, please don't disappoint.

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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October 18, 2015, 06:21:41 PM

Dash is a company. Or more accurately, a Decentralised Autonomous Organisation and its the first of its kind Cool

DAO is a sci-fi buzzword.  Saying it doesn't make Dash stop being centralized.

Buzzwords and blue-sky projects aside, Dash is the opposite of decentralized.

Cite: https://docs.google.com/document/d/143Uwls4ZZrN7pS7bWfjk03i90TWskjy8scNB2U0HOoo/





That is why vertoe said "fuck this" and stopped being a Darkcoin core dev.

Cite:
i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following.

this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal.

fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing.

the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers!

the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year.

the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized
and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

Bus Factor of 1?  Centralization confirmed!


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October 18, 2015, 07:17:26 PM

How do I order something not on the standard menu?  Grin

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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October 18, 2015, 07:45:15 PM

There are a few threads going on over at r/Bitcoin about incentivizing nodes that might be of interest to people here.  Dash has been mentioned in both of them.
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October 18, 2015, 08:10:31 PM

I wonder what Vertoe thinks now with decentralized governance being established? The foundation was put in place way before that was ever in our vocabulary.

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Good one!

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October 18, 2015, 08:54:56 PM


Yes, the Quiz spam is out of control.

If you have to bribe people with giveaways to use Dashtalk, it probably sucks.

Giveaway threads are not allowed, so posts advertising those on another forum should be moderated.


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Demented bagholders of encrypted bookkeeping balances that they thought was money - who come here begging us to lighten their bags for them - are pretty "out of control" as well.
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October 18, 2015, 09:11:56 PM

estimated Dash inflation or total supply over the next 10 years?

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Hello new ATH number of active masternodes : https://dashninja.pl/masternodes.html


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October 18, 2015, 10:29:27 PM

There are a few threads going on over at r/Bitcoin about incentivizing nodes that might be of interest to people here.  Dash has been mentioned in both of them.
Thanks for the info.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3p84us/to_node_or_not_to_node_exploring_incentives_to/
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3p5n9c/number_of_bitcoin_nodes_is_at_a_6_year_low_if_you/

'The other problem is that it's not easy to set a bandwidth rate limit.
I believe that more people would run nodes if the Bitcoin client just ran unobtrusively and reliably in the background, consuming no more than about 100GB of bandwidth per month by default. '

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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Maybe its a good idea to stop using the Monero Guy meme...

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October 18, 2015, 10:59:19 PM

Dash is a company. Or more accurately, a Decentralised Autonomous Organisation and its the first of its kind Cool

DAO is a sci-fi buzzword.  Saying it doesn't make Dash stop being centralized.

Buzzwords and blue-sky projects aside, Dash is the opposite of decentralized.

Cite: https://docs.google.com/document/d/143Uwls4ZZrN7pS7bWfjk03i90TWskjy8scNB2U0HOoo/

That is why vertoe said "fuck this" and stopped being a Darkcoin core dev.

Cite:
i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following.

this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal.

fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing.

the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers!

the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year.

the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized
and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

Bus Factor of 1?  Centralization confirmed!


Do you have Dash or have any interest in becoming involved? Do you have any holdings that could be considered a competitor to Dash, similar features such as anonymity for example?

If vertoe doesn't have any interest in being involved, why should I (or anyone else besides "golden donkey" chasers)?

I don't care about Dash's fake anonymity and only hlod coins with mathmatically proven privacy.


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October 18, 2015, 11:02:14 PM
Last edit: October 18, 2015, 11:15:14 PM by Macrochip

I’ve seen a number of people suggest that node operators should receive a cut of mining fees, but the fundamental problem is for a node to be able to prove that it is a real node that hosts the blockchain. Because it’s easy to fake nodes — take the Pseudonode project, for example

This is interesting. Is the collateral enough to prevent the creation of fake DASH nodes? Or would it be possible to activate several nodes with the same 1000 DASH due to the requirement delays? Do Masternodes additionally score each other to prevent this?

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October 18, 2015, 11:08:08 PM

again guys, look in the mirror. This was the guy taking my picture (without me giving permission to publish it):

dutchn0mad

Even if you could prove* it was this guy who took your picture: Don't know, don't care.
He's not out there smearing and slandering another project during its own gig like you did. Your nicknames not only reflect your physique but much more your behaviour, poor character and weak personality.

So enjoy your legacy:




*which you haven't in the slightest, for all I care this could be a random large guy you cherry picked from the crowd in a lame attempt of deflection

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October 19, 2015, 12:01:47 AM

hey folks,

i download 12.55 from dashpay.io and after dashd -getinfo it says i have got 12.45

wtf is wrong?!
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October 19, 2015, 12:07:04 AM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!!!!

Oh my god,  now your really reaching for straws. Your making your self look like a putts.  vertoe has his/her own shit to deal with on some other matters before you bounce that as some meaningful moral or ethical measuring stick.

And here's the deal... Once and for all.... Break the code,  prove that's it's a fake anonymity.  Until you or any other arm chair coder moral crusader can prove otherwise... Your a liar!  

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