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[thelonecrouton]

Hashes @coinmine safe? Cant access the pool, but my miners getting accepted shares. Anyone to clarify?

there was a post earlier to say its now working and they are trying to get website going.

Thanks bro, do you know whats that 45.8% unknown pool at the pools hashrate chart?

It's not a pool. It's all the hashrate that comes from other sources, beyond the known pools. If you solo mine, if you have a big rig, if you have an unlisted pool, it's all in the "unknown" pie slice.

So someone is having almost 51% and is unknown to everyone? What gives?

edit: down to 34% now, but still..

No, what I'm saying is that this slice does not represent 1 person. It's the sum of all solo miners, fpga miners, large gpu rigs that mine without a pool, small pools that are unlisted, botnets etc etc.

+1 so everyone selling stop being lemmings. You are giving cheap dark to people. DRK in wired article on monday.

This is healthy, I have no idea what the plans are of whoever has acquired hundreds of thousands of DRK in the last few days, but I'm pretty sure they have more vision than the average ADD crypto nerd. I suspect there will be a mighty influx of butthurt whiners when the price rockets up again.

[rickraw]

Come on price, don't rise until after my funds clear!!!!!

[splawik21]

http://scr.hu/1ame/7lhmu
suchpool www down?

btw. after 14May mining @ p2pool will not work anymore right?

[thelonecrouton]

I make up about 25% of my p2pool nodes hashrate, and they find blocks reliably, avg. 40 mins. May give solo a try.  

If I can work out how.  

your node probably finds one block per day or less. 40mins is b/c whenever any node finds a block you get paid.

Simple math tells me you're right. But I enjoyed the happy fantasy of 10-15 DRK payouts three times a day for the few minutes it lasted.  

Note to self: post-siesta coffee and cigarette first, before jumping onto the intertubes and posting nonsense!

[crowning]

looking at reviews a lot of people have problems on DRKpool.com, if you already checked the spam folder you should try with a different email address for registering

fuck the same problem! for each nick i set a new e-mail-address - the side said it's o.k. so far and published, that i should confirm through what is sent to my e-mail-address
but it never appeared there - not even in the spam-folder

Same here, tried several email addresses, checked the SPAM folders, send a message via the contact form...for a kinda "official" pool it really sucks a lot  

[Kai Proctor]

p2pool : http://drk.poolhash.org

[AlexGR]

Hashes @coinmine safe? Cant access the pool, but my miners getting accepted shares. Anyone to clarify?

there was a post earlier to say its now working and they are trying to get website going.

Thanks bro, do you know whats that 45.8% unknown pool at the pools hashrate chart?

It's not a pool. It's all the hashrate that comes from other sources, beyond the known pools. If you solo mine, if you have a big rig, if you have an unlisted pool, it's all in the "unknown" pie slice.

So someone is having almost 51% and is unknown to everyone? What gives?

edit: down to 34% now, but still..

No, what I'm saying is that this slice does not represent 1 person. It's the sum of all solo miners, fpga miners, large gpu rigs that mine without a pool, small pools that are unlisted, botnets etc etc.

+1 so everyone selling stop being lemmings. You are giving cheap dark to people. DRK in wired article on monday.

This is healthy, I have no idea what the plans are of whoever has acquired hundreds of thousands of DRK in the last few days, but I'm pretty sure they have more vision than the average ADD crypto nerd. I suspect there will be a mighty influx of butthurt whiners when the price rockets up again.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?188207.htm

This guy keeps stacking... added another 10.5k to his stash today, currently standing at >200k DRKs.

Yep, I predict much butthurt from whiners.

[Donho]

Hashes @coinmine safe? Cant access the pool, but my miners getting accepted shares. Anyone to clarify?

there was a post earlier to say its now working and they are trying to get website going.

Thanks bro, do you know whats that 45.8% unknown pool at the pools hashrate chart?

It's not a pool. It's all the hashrate that comes from other sources, beyond the known pools. If you solo mine, if you have a big rig, if you have an unlisted pool, it's all in the "unknown" pie slice.

So someone is having almost 51% and is unknown to everyone? What gives?

edit: down to 34% now, but still..

No, what I'm saying is that this slice does not represent 1 person. It's the sum of all solo miners, fpga miners, large gpu rigs that mine without a pool, small pools that are unlisted, botnets etc etc.

+1 so everyone selling stop being lemmings. You are giving cheap dark to people. DRK in wired article on monday.

This is healthy, I have no idea what the plans are of whoever has acquired hundreds of thousands of DRK in the last few days, but I'm pretty sure they have more vision than the average ADD crypto nerd. I suspect there will be a mighty influx of butthurt whiners when the price rockets up again.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?188207.htm

This guy keeps stacking... added another 10.5k to his stash today, currently standing at >200k DRKs.

Yep, I predict much butthurt from whiners.

maybe its an exchange?

[conf]

Hashes @coinmine safe? Cant access the pool, but my miners getting accepted shares. Anyone to clarify?

there was a post earlier to say its now working and they are trying to get website going.

Thanks bro, do you know whats that 45.8% unknown pool at the pools hashrate chart?

It's not a pool. It's all the hashrate that comes from other sources, beyond the known pools. If you solo mine, if you have a big rig, if you have an unlisted pool, it's all in the "unknown" pie slice.

So someone is having almost 51% and is unknown to everyone? What gives?

edit: down to 34% now, but still..

No, what I'm saying is that this slice does not represent 1 person. It's the sum of all solo miners, fpga miners, large gpu rigs that mine without a pool, small pools that are unlisted, botnets etc etc.

+1 so everyone selling stop being lemmings. You are giving cheap dark to people. DRK in wired article on monday.

Thx for the cheap coins... im bying all i can (not much, but...) 

[Brilliantrocket]

Is it really a good thing to have one guy owning 5% of the coin? Seems worrying. Hope it's an exchange or pooled investment address.

[thelonecrouton]

Hashes @coinmine safe? Cant access the pool, but my miners getting accepted shares. Anyone to clarify?

there was a post earlier to say its now working and they are trying to get website going.

Thanks bro, do you know whats that 45.8% unknown pool at the pools hashrate chart?

It's not a pool. It's all the hashrate that comes from other sources, beyond the known pools. If you solo mine, if you have a big rig, if you have an unlisted pool, it's all in the "unknown" pie slice.

So someone is having almost 51% and is unknown to everyone? What gives?

edit: down to 34% now, but still..

No, what I'm saying is that this slice does not represent 1 person. It's the sum of all solo miners, fpga miners, large gpu rigs that mine without a pool, small pools that are unlisted, botnets etc etc.

+1 so everyone selling stop being lemmings. You are giving cheap dark to people. DRK in wired article on monday.

This is healthy, I have no idea what the plans are of whoever has acquired hundreds of thousands of DRK in the last few days, but I'm pretty sure they have more vision than the average ADD crypto nerd. I suspect there will be a mighty influx of butthurt whiners when the price rockets up again.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?188207.htm

This guy keeps stacking... added another 10.5k to his stash today, currently standing at >200k DRKs.

Yep, I predict much butthurt from whiners.

To be fair, I also predict some gnashing of teeth from myself, because I could pick up a lot more DRK, it's just that the wife would certainly kill me if it all went wrong.

[GhostPlayer]

http://scr.hu/1ame/7lhmu
suchpool www down?

btw. after 14May mining @ p2pool will not work anymore right?

NO !! LOL...

 DRK has a testnet update, that is not out yet. MPOS has be patched, stratum is being patched etc etc. For this RC2 testnet, p2pool was not patched, so it could not be tested with the masternide protocol. Evan simply put it out there, and invited anyone to cooperate, as he is surely out of man-power.

It  done soon enough, I'm sure -  p2pool works 100% on mainnet!

 There is bounty for anyone with coding skills!
 https://darkcointalk.org/threads/developement-work-for-p2pool-and-nomp-stratum-patch.360/#post-2771

[eizh]

Is it really a good thing to have one guy owning 5% of the coin? Seems worrying. Hope it's an exchange or pooled investment address.

There are bigger whales -- at least one person with 300k and another with 200k and likely a few others. This one just happens to hold it in a single public key (which is generally bad practice).

Honestly I wouldn't worry about these large holdings. DRK doesn't have the liquidity to handle such large amounts so they'll be holding for a long time.

[thelonecrouton]

Is it really a good thing to have one guy owning 5% of the coin? Seems worrying. Hope it's an exchange or pooled investment address.

There are bigger whales -- at least one person with 300k and another with 200k and likely a few others. This one just happens to hold it in a single public key (which is generally bad practice).

Honestly I wouldn't worry about these large holdings. DRK doesn't have the liquidity to handle such large amounts so they'll be holding for a long time.

Much more worrying would be a situation like BTC, where there are at lease two individuals who admit to having >10% of the total hash each. One is the owner of KnC, surprise surprise.

[Brilliantrocket]

Is it really a good thing to have one guy owning 5% of the coin? Seems worrying. Hope it's an exchange or pooled investment address.

There are bigger whales -- at least one person with 300k and another with 200k and likely a few others. This one just happens to hold it in a single public key (which is generally bad practice).

Honestly I wouldn't worry about these large holdings. DRK doesn't have the liquidity to handle such large amounts so they'll be holding for a long time.

Much more worrying would be a situation like BTC, where there are at lease two individuals who admit to having >10% of the total hash each. One is the owner of KnC, surprise surprise.

So glad I got rid of my Neptune preorder.

[chompyZ]

Is it really a good thing to have one guy owning 5% of the coin? Seems worrying. Hope it's an exchange or pooled investment address.

There are bigger whales -- at least one person with 300k and another with 200k and likely a few others. This one just happens to hold it in a single public key (which is generally bad practice).

Honestly I wouldn't worry about these large holdings. DRK doesn't have the liquidity to handle such large amounts so they'll be holding for a long time.

I might be overwhelmingly naive and optimistic, but perhaps its an exchange (BTC-e???) that is accumulating drk in order to introduce it and have the liquidity to support it...

NOW THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING!!!

[thelonecrouton]

Is it really a good thing to have one guy owning 5% of the coin? Seems worrying. Hope it's an exchange or pooled investment address.

There are bigger whales -- at least one person with 300k and another with 200k and likely a few others. This one just happens to hold it in a single public key (which is generally bad practice).

Honestly I wouldn't worry about these large holdings. DRK doesn't have the liquidity to handle such large amounts so they'll be holding for a long time.

I might be overwhelmingly naive and optimistic, but perhaps its an exchange (BTC-e???) that is accumulating drk in order to introduce it and have the liquidity to support it...

NOW THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING!!!

If an exchange needs liquidity, it's doing it wrong or up to no good. They're not banks, they exist to swap money between customers and take a small cut of each trade, that's all, they shouldn't need stockpiles of whatever they list.

[spatula]

I can only assume that a lot of the "unknown" hash rate is from pools like coinmine, who are operational and finding blocks but not reporting a hash rate.

[chompyZ]

I might be overwhelmingly naive and optimistic, but perhaps its an exchange (BTC-e???) that is accumulating drk in order to introduce it and have the liquidity to support it...

NOW THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING!!!

If an exchange needs liquidity, it's doing it wrong or up to no good. They're not banks, they exist to swap money between customers and take a small cut of each trade, that's all, they shouldn't need stockpiles of whatever they list.

I beg the differ.
If BTC-e suddenly introduces drk trading, they have loads of demand, but no supply.
Furthermore, no-one here in their right mind would transfer drk to btc-e in order to sell unless price skyrockets bcs we all understand the potential of such a move.
SO, if i were them, i'd stack a pile of drk to introduce liquidity right from the start.
But - it's all hypothetical...

[Simcom]

So I PMed Evan about this, but I figured I'd throw this out to the community to see if you guys could come up with a solution.

I've been thinking about the denomination of coins in darksend and I think I've ran into a problem.

If I want to darksend 954 coins from Address A to Address B, how will this be denominated?  The most obvious way to do it is:

9 entries into the 100 coin pool
5 entries into the 10 coin pool
4 entries into the 1 coin pool

The problem is - it will be clear that Address A sent 954 coins to address B by looking at the block chain - it doesn't matter how much mixing occurs, 954 coins leave address A, then sometime later 954 coins accumulate at address B.

The only way I can think of keep it anonymous is if the coins are sent to multiple receiving addresses. I suggested a while ago in the thread that maybe multiple addresses could be concatenated together and used as a "DarkRecieve" address - this would allow multiple coins to be received in denominated fashion.

Another potential solution is to require that in order to send 954 coins you must have a total of 1000 coins, but this would be a really bad solution because if you just wanted to send 101 coins you would need an addtional 899 coins in your wallet to enter into the 1000 coin pool to ensure anonymity.

Let me know if you guys can think of any great solutions.

Need more brainstorming!!111