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May 08, 2014, 12:09:34 AM
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Apart from Amazon, who else are masternode ops using? (Pref non US)

Speaking of "apart from Amazon"...  I would be interested to know what percentage of the 50-odd masternodes are there right now.  It'd be easy for them to shut them all down on a whim.

Right now, 30 of 55 are running on Amazon. Hence my desire to run my intended others elsewhere.

The decentralized solution has become centralized.

Well, not really, not practically.  First off, Amazon has services in something like 6-8 different locations around the world.  Plus, each node is owned by different people, they're in control of them, not Amazon.  So it's still decentralized.  It's not the same as having a handful of servers serving up something like a blockchain, as in android wallets, or mixing service from one or two servers.

I am interested in setting up a masternode on a second computer on my home network. I posted before but didn't get any responses. Is it generally not a wise thing to host one on your home computer? Are most people using hosting services?

The nodes should really be spread out across different countries and different services. I was figuring that hosting my own gives me more control over it, but, does it make my network more vulnerable to targeted attack? I would obviously be broadcasting my IP, correct?

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May 08, 2014, 12:09:46 AM
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Apart from Amazon, who else are masternode ops using? (Pref non US)

Speaking of "apart from Amazon"...  I would be interested to know what percentage of the 50-odd masternodes are there right now.  It'd be easy for them to shut them all down on a whim.

Right now, 30 of 55 are running on Amazon. Hence my desire to run my intended others elsewhere.

Most masternodes are there right now because there is a detailed guide with screenshots on how to set it up. If some of the members of the community create additional guides on how to set it up in other places, people will be happy to move them. So if any of you guys could write a guide for some other options, please go ahead and do it.

True, but cost is also an issue - an Amazon micro instance is basically free. Chaeplins guide can be followed exactly from the part where you're ssh'ed in to your server, regardless of where it is. In fact that part on is the easiest bit.
Don't you have to pay for Amazon bandwidth usage?  WHat if the bandwidth usage charges are more than the masternode payments?

Yup, you do, and yes, it adds up.  My problem is that I really don't want to have to monitor my box at home.  Mining has been a total pain and my Ubuntu keeps crashing for some reason.  My IP is out so often late at night, screwing everything up.  It just isn't worth it.  Plus the electricity adds up to more than amazon's prices.  I have to be practical.  so do a lot of people.  So we're going to end up with a bunch of amazons.  lets hope it's not an Achilles' heel.

I already bought a 3 year package, so I'm hoping it will be useful for that length of time, LOL.  You can tell I really believe in the "long term" of this coin Wink

You just have to rent a VPS or a private server and install ubuntu. The steps to setup the masternode are the same, there are cheap monthly subscriptions with hosts providing a DDOS protection.
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May 08, 2014, 12:11:10 AM
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Apart from Amazon, who else are masternode ops using? (Pref non US)

Speaking of "apart from Amazon"...  I would be interested to know what percentage of the 50-odd masternodes are there right now.  It'd be easy for them to shut them all down on a whim.

Right now, 30 of 55 are running on Amazon. Hence my desire to run my intended others elsewhere.

The decentralized solution has become centralized.

Well, not really, not practically.  First off, Amazon has services in something like 6-8 different locations around the world.  Plus, each node is owned by different people, they're in control of them, not Amazon.  So it's still decentralized.  It's not the same as having a handful of servers serving up something like a blockchain, as in android wallets, or mixing service from one or two servers.

I am interested in setting up a masternode on a second computer on my home network. I posted before but didn't get any responses. Is it generally not a wise thing to host one on your home computer? Are most people using hosting services?

The nodes should really be spread out across different countries and different services. I was figuring that hosting my own gives me more control over it, but, does it make my network more vulnerable to targeted attack? I would obviously be broadcasting my IP, correct?

Another option (perhaps the best choice imho) would be to host the node on a home server and ask your existing provider for a 2nd static IP address for a game server or something, then exit that through a good VPN provider perhaps. Their is a lot to be said for owning and having access to the physical equipment for your master node.

Yeah I'm starting to think this way.

It's probably going to be the cheapest option too. Linux Box with a 2nd IP on your existing provider.

DNSCrypt - http://dnscrypt.org/ and compatible DNS - https://dnscrypt.eu/ - http://wiki.opennicproject.org/Tier2

Riseup.net VPN - https://help.riseup.net/en/vpn

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May 08, 2014, 12:14:30 AM
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Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I've been trying to keep up with this thread but it's proven quite hard given the speed at which new replies are posted Smiley.

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May 08, 2014, 12:14:54 AM
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Apart from Amazon, who else are masternode ops using? (Pref non US)

Speaking of "apart from Amazon"...  I would be interested to know what percentage of the 50-odd masternodes are there right now.  It'd be easy for them to shut them all down on a whim.

Right now, 30 of 55 are running on Amazon. Hence my desire to run my intended others elsewhere.

The decentralized solution has become centralized.

Well, not really, not practically.  First off, Amazon has services in something like 6-8 different locations around the world.  Plus, each node is owned by different people, they're in control of them, not Amazon.  So it's still decentralized.  It's not the same as having a handful of servers serving up something like a blockchain, as in android wallets, or mixing service from one or two servers.

I am interested in setting up a masternode on a second computer on my home network. I posted before but didn't get any responses. Is it generally not a wise thing to host one on your home computer? Are most people using hosting services?

The nodes should really be spread out across different countries and different services. I was figuring that hosting my own gives me more control over it, but, does it make my network more vulnerable to targeted attack? I would obviously be broadcasting my IP, correct?

I don't see why you can't be just as safe if you set it up correctly, firewall it etc... and still use a remote wallet.

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May 08, 2014, 12:17:42 AM
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Apart from Amazon, who else are masternode ops using? (Pref non US)

Speaking of "apart from Amazon"...  I would be interested to know what percentage of the 50-odd masternodes are there right now.  It'd be easy for them to shut them all down on a whim.

Right now, 30 of 55 are running on Amazon. Hence my desire to run my intended others elsewhere.

Most masternodes are there right now because there is a detailed guide with screenshots on how to set it up. If some of the members of the community create additional guides on how to set it up in other places, people will be happy to move them. So if any of you guys could write a guide for some other options, please go ahead and do it.

True, but cost is also an issue - an Amazon micro instance is basically free. Chaeplins guide can be followed exactly from the part where you're ssh'ed in to your server, regardless of where it is. In fact that part on is the easiest bit.
Don't you have to pay for Amazon bandwidth usage?  WHat if the bandwidth usage charges are more than the masternode payments?

Yup, you do, and yes, it adds up.  My problem is that I really don't want to have to monitor my box at home.  Mining has been a total pain and my Ubuntu keeps crashing for some reason.  My IP is out so often late at night, screwing everything up.  It just isn't worth it.  Plus the electricity adds up to more than amazon's prices.  I have to be practical.  so do a lot of people.  So we're going to end up with a bunch of amazons.  lets hope it's not an Achilles' heel.

I already bought a 3 year package, so I'm hoping it will be useful for that length of time, LOL.  You can tell I really believe in the "long term" of this coin Wink

You just have to rent a VPS or a private server and install ubuntu. The steps to setup the masternode are the same, there are cheap monthly subscriptions with hosts providing a DDOS protection.

I've committed cash to Amazon, so unfortunately, I won't be changing.  For better or for worse, I'm stuck Sad

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May 08, 2014, 12:21:01 AM
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Just wondering how wise it would be to run a masternode from a secondary computer on a home network?

I guess that depends if your a business or a hobbyist ?  Smiley

Again, a secondary static IP address, encrypted DNS, VPN (optional) and I reckon your set - If you decide that running a Darkcoin master node is right for you as an individual.

- People get paranoid about running Tor relays, for example, I've run one from my 'home' network 24/7 for around 2 years without having any issues whatsoever.

The thing about 'anonymity' projects is that any log keeping actually makes you more liable to revealing those logs. Not keeping any logs and having no knowledge of any processed transactions or data is probably beneficial, perhaps over storage of the Bitcoin blockchain, for example. This is obviously dependent on your jurisdiction.

I'll be running Peerblock and/or Peer Guardian with some free and paid lists from iblocklist.com - in an effort to prevent my relay / node from being used by any 'bad' actors.

At last you can present that you are running your node in the interest of internet privacy and anonymity, as oppose to supporting any criminal activity and in fact put measures in place to prevent such activities, where possible.

Darkcoin is potentially the 'anonymous' eCash that Bitcoin claimed to be. In fact, using cash is still potentially more 'anonymous' than using Darkcoin!

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Apart from Amazon, who else are masternode ops using? (Pref non US)

Speaking of "apart from Amazon"...  I would be interested to know what percentage of the 50-odd masternodes are there right now.  It'd be easy for them to shut them all down on a whim.

Right now, 30 of 55 are running on Amazon. Hence my desire to run my intended others elsewhere.

Most masternodes are there right now because there is a detailed guide with screenshots on how to set it up. If some of the members of the community create additional guides on how to set it up in other places, people will be happy to move them. So if any of you guys could write a guide for some other options, please go ahead and do it.

True, but cost is also an issue - an Amazon micro instance is basically free. Chaeplins guide can be followed exactly from the part where you're ssh'ed in to your server, regardless of where it is. In fact that part on is the easiest bit.
Don't you have to pay for Amazon bandwidth usage?  WHat if the bandwidth usage charges are more than the masternode payments?

Yup, you do, and yes, it adds up.  My problem is that I really don't want to have to monitor my box at home.  Mining has been a total pain and my Ubuntu keeps crashing for some reason.  My IP is out so often late at night, screwing everything up.  It just isn't worth it.  Plus the electricity adds up to more than amazon's prices.  I have to be practical.  so do a lot of people.  So we're going to end up with a bunch of amazons.  lets hope it's not an Achilles' heel.

I already bought a 3 year package, so I'm hoping it will be useful for that length of time, LOL.  You can tell I really believe in the "long term" of this coin Wink

Totally get where you're coming from, don't get me wrong, but "let's hope it's not an achilles heel" are the words on the dying breath of every doomed security scheme since...forever.

I haven't looked into getting a MN running yet because the 14th was a ways off, but I think I'll get a few going this weekend.  In doing so I'll see if I can compile some good sources outside of Amazon and preferably outside the US and put a list here and on darkcointalk.
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May 08, 2014, 12:34:37 AM
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Totally get where you're coming from, don't get me wrong, but "let's hope it's not an achilles heel" are the words on the dying breath of every flawed security scheme since...forever.

I haven't looked into getting a MN running yet because the 14th was a ways off, but I think I'll get a few going this weekend.  In doing so I'll see if I can compile some good sources outside of Amazon and preferably outside the US and put a list here and on darkcointalk.

That'll be nice because my free amazon will eventually run out and I'll be looking for an alternative at that point Smiley  I've had it a while....

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May 08, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
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Hey, you're obviously a super smart guy, can't you patch P2pool for us?  Please?Huh


I'm not really super smart and sadly I have some time constraints at present. I'm not that good of a coder either and mostly do networking stuff. I am making progress on some dark mining protocols off the existing P2pool software, but I couldn't take on a bounty for that deadline or even help with it at the moment due to having some other obligations.  Sad

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May 08, 2014, 12:40:02 AM
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Hi guys, noob here:( Sorry for the dumb question but is DRK still minable? I am interested in dabbling with it and am not sure where the best place to start is.

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May 08, 2014, 12:42:44 AM
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Hi guys, noob here:( Sorry for the dumb question but is DRK still minable? I am interested in dabbling with it and am not sure where the best place to start is.

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Of course ! Welcome!  Cheesy Mine with p2pool, you can choose some nodes there http://drk.poolhash.org/
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May 08, 2014, 12:46:36 AM
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Hi guys, noob here:( Sorry for the dumb question but is DRK still minable? I am interested in dabbling with it and am not sure where the best place to start is.

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Try following this guide for cloud mining, as well as mining with your PC: http://www.darkproxy.net/darkcoin-cpu-cloud-mining-guide.php

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Hi guys, noob here:( Sorry for the dumb question but is DRK still minable? I am interested in dabbling with it and am not sure where the best place to start is.

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Griff

Of course ! Welcome!  Cheesy Mine with p2pool, you can choose some nodes there http://drk.poolhash.org/

What miner software do I need for NVida and AMD, also what algorithm does DRK use. Right now I dabble with Vertcoin on Scrypt-N and get about 900 kh/s. How does that equate on DRK mining, ie coins per day at current diff?
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Hey, you're obviously a super smart guy, can't you patch P2pool for us?  Please?Huh


I'm not really super smart and sadly I have some time constraints at present. I'm not that good of a coder either and mostly do networking stuff. I am making progress on some dark mining protocols off the existing P2pool software, but I couldn't take on a bounty for that deadline or even help with it at the moment due to having some other obligations.  Sad

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Hi guys, noob here:( Sorry for the dumb question but is DRK still minable? I am interested in dabbling with it and am not sure where the best place to start is.

Thanks,
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Of course ! Welcome!  Cheesy Mine with p2pool, you can choose some nodes there http://drk.poolhash.org/

What miner software do I need for NVida and AMD, also what algorithm does DRK use. Right now I dabble with Vertcoin on Scrypt-N and get about 900 kh/s. How does that equate on DRK mining, ie coins per day at current diff?

Unfortunately we don't have a Nvidia miner Sad  We have several AMD miners though, check out the first post links Smiley Also, the cpu miner is very viable still, you can use them side by side.

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May 08, 2014, 12:54:15 AM
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Hi guys, noob here:( Sorry for the dumb question but is DRK still minable? I am interested in dabbling with it and am not sure where the best place to start is.

Thanks,
Griff

Try following this guide for cloud mining, as well as mining with your PC: http://www.darkproxy.net/darkcoin-cpu-cloud-mining-guide.php

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what kind of hash rates do you get with this CPU cloud mining? Can this be setup on a Windows machine and is it only run on the CPU?
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Hi guys, noob here:( Sorry for the dumb question but is DRK still minable? I am interested in dabbling with it and am not sure where the best place to start is.

Thanks,
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Of course ! Welcome!  Cheesy Mine with p2pool, you can choose some nodes there http://drk.poolhash.org/

What miner software do I need for NVida and AMD, also what algorithm does DRK use. Right now I dabble with Vertcoin on Scrypt-N and get about 900 kh/s. How does that equate on DRK mining, ie coins per day at current diff?

Unfortunately we don't have a Nvidia miner Sad  We have several AMD miners though, check out the first post links Smiley Also, the cpu miner is very viable still, you can use them side by side.

That's ok I could still mine Vertcoin with my 780Ti then. What kind of hash rates do you see with CPUs, for example I have an overclocked i7-4770K at 4.8GHz
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Hi guys, noob here:( Sorry for the dumb question but is DRK still minable? I am interested in dabbling with it and am not sure where the best place to start is.

Thanks,
Griff

Try following this guide for cloud mining, as well as mining with your PC: http://www.darkproxy.net/darkcoin-cpu-cloud-mining-guide.php

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what kind of hash rates do you get with this CPU cloud mining? Can this be setup on a Windows machine and is it only run on the CPU?

I gave up on cloud mining a couple of months ago.  It was way too expensive.  I highly suggest not doing that, but rather buying the coin on an exchange instead.  But from home, it's still good to go Smiley

I don't know what you'll get on your i7, a hell of a lot more than I'm getting for sure, LOL. I have Pentium core2 duos and get about 20-25 kh/s on each core???

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FPGA is running X11 Huh Huh
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