[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[Zimmermann]

Greetings NEM people!

I am in the market for NEM stakes and have the resources to buy out a large number of sockpuppets.

I'm valuing NEM at 10% of the marketcap of NXT. That's with no software released, but definite potential.

I'll buy out any sockpuppets  at a rate of 1:40 - for every 40 NEM you give me I'll pay you 1 NXT.

I'm only buying full stakes (too complicated otherwise), and I'll only be buying for 48-72 hours after the NEM stakes are allocated to stakeholders, so you need to reserve your place now.

Escrow will protect both parties. Once the NEM ownership transfer procedures have been finalised I will work out the details and make a further announcement.

My offer is first come first served, so if you are interested you'll need to reply to this post specifying the number of stakes you want to sell. I suggest using a sockpuppet account to reply.

The NEM rules are very clear, you can have up to 5 stakes, so it's cool to sell me 4, and keep one for yourself!

I have a budget of 10,000,000 NXT, and I assure you this is a serious offer.

If you take up this offer you will have a stake in NEM & NXT.

This offer is good for NEM, good for NXT, and good for those who take it up!

Don't miss out!

I also want to buy more NEM.
But I'll give you all a better offer.
So don't worry about such a sick offer made to you like above ( 25.000 NXT per stake - are you kidding us ?)

I'm thinking of buying half stakes, quarter stakes, whole stakes - so I'm more flexibel and I pay realistic 4-5 btc  whitin the first week after launch (depending on some other criteria like "how fast and for how much I can sell my shitty NXT to buy BTC")

[UtopianNow]

Greetings NEM people!

I am in the market for NEM stakes and have the resources to buy out a large number of sockpuppets.

I'm valuing NEM at 10% of the marketcap of NXT. That's with no software released, but definite potential.

I'll buy out any sockpuppets  at a rate of 1:40 - for every 40 NEM you give me I'll pay you 1 NXT.

I'm only buying full stakes (too complicated otherwise), and I'll only be buying for 48-72 hours after the NEM stakes are allocated to stakeholders, so you need to reserve your place now.

Escrow will protect both parties. Once the NEM ownership transfer procedures have been finalised I will work out the details and make a further announcement.

My offer is first come first served, so if you are interested you'll need to reply to this post specifying the number of stakes you want to sell. I suggest using a sockpuppet account to reply.

The NEM rules are very clear, you can have up to 5 stakes, so it's cool to sell me 4, and keep one for yourself!

I have a budget of 10,000,000 NXT, and I assure you this is a serious offer.

If you take up this offer you will have a stake in NEM & NXT.

This offer is good for NEM, good for NXT, and good for those who take it up!

Don't miss out!

I also want to buy more NEM.
But I'll give you all a better offer.
So don't worry about such a sick offer made to you like above ( 25.000 NXT per stake - are you kidding us ?)

I'm thinking of buying half stakes, quarter stakes, whole stakes - so I'm more flexibel and I pay realistic 4-5 btc  in the first week after launch (depending from some other criteria like "how fast and for how much I can sell my shitty NXT to buy BTC")

It is too early to tell how many NEM coins will make up each NEM stake, but even using your figure of 25,000 NXT would equate to $1000 USD at the current rate for NXT. Not a bad profit, and I definitely recommend keeping at least one NEM stake.

[Zimmermann]

Greetings NEM people!

I am in the market for NEM stakes and have the resources to buy out a large number of sockpuppets.

I'm valuing NEM at 10% of the marketcap of NXT. That's with no software released, but definite potential.

I'll buy out any sockpuppets  at a rate of 1:40 - for every 40 NEM you give me I'll pay you 1 NXT.

I'm only buying full stakes (too complicated otherwise), and I'll only be buying for 48-72 hours after the NEM stakes are allocated to stakeholders, so you need to reserve your place now.

Escrow will protect both parties. Once the NEM ownership transfer procedures have been finalised I will work out the details and make a further announcement.

My offer is first come first served, so if you are interested you'll need to reply to this post specifying the number of stakes you want to sell. I suggest using a sockpuppet account to reply.

The NEM rules are very clear, you can have up to 5 stakes, so it's cool to sell me 4, and keep one for yourself!

I have a budget of 10,000,000 NXT, and I assure you this is a serious offer.

If you take up this offer you will have a stake in NEM & NXT.

This offer is good for NEM, good for NXT, and good for those who take it up!

Don't miss out!

I also want to buy more NEM.
But I'll give you all a better offer.
So don't worry about such a sick offer made to you like above ( 25.000 NXT per stake - are you kidding us ?)

I'm thinking of buying half stakes, quarter stakes, whole stakes - so I'm more flexibel and I pay realistic 4-5 btc  in the first week after launch (depending from some other criteria like "how fast and for how much I can sell my shitty NXT to buy BTC")

It is too early to tell how many NEM coins will make up each NEM stake, but even using your figure of 25,000 NXT would equate to $1000 USD at the current rate for NXT. Not a bad profit, and I definitely recommend keeping at least one NEM stake.

That is nothing in regard of the excepted value. I don't like to say someone should sell his stake directly to me, but in case this persons doesn't want that stake, he or she could sell it to me! I would be REALLY glad to get some stakes for 4-5 BTC!

@ all: Post me after launch if you want to sell your stake! I'll give you about 4-5 btc per stake in the first week after launch !! please remember me!!!!!!!!!!

[UtopianNow]

That is nothing in regard of the excepted value. I don't like to say someone should sell his stake directly to me, but in case this persons don't want to have that stake, he or she can sell it to me! I would be REALLY glad to get some stakes for 4-5 BTC!

@ all: Post me after launch if you want to sell your stake! I'll give you about 4-5 btc per stake!! please remember me!!!!!!!!!!

This is business. As an investment opportunity NEM has potential, but it could fail, so the greatest risk/reward is now for those who can afford to invest. I am prepared to take the risk now, and I am fortunate enough to have the means.

I will show my capacity to make this offer before anyone trades. NXT or bitcoin doesn't matter as I have both, but I do prefer NXT.

I am serious. Please don't joke about buying NEM stakes if you don't have the means.

[martismartis]

Going now for my popcorn

[sniveling]

why are all sockpockets so keen to announce how many stakes they have 

does it make any logical sense 

Which leaves us to conclude some people just wants to sabotage NEM.

That is not the only logical conclusion. But the most probable.

The conclusion sounds right to me. Why would someone risk damaging NEM's reputation if they really did have so many stakes? It would be in theit interests to ensure the price goes as high as possible.

[Zimmermann]

That is nothing in regard of the excepted value. I don't like to say someone should sell his stake directly to me, but in case this persons don't want to have that stake, he or she can sell it to me! I would be REALLY glad to get some stakes for 4-5 BTC!

@ all: Post me after launch if you want to sell your stake! I'll give you about 4-5 btc per stake!! please remember me!!!!!!!!!!

This is business. As an investment opportunity NEM has potential, but it could fail, so the greatest risk/reward is now for those who can afford to invest. I am prepared to take the risk now, and I am fortunate enough to have the means.

I will show my capacity to make this offer before anyone trades. NXT or bitcoin doesn't matter as I have both, but I do prefer NXT.

I am serious. Please don't joke about buying NEM stakes if you don't have the means.

As you already said "this is business".

In my last two posts I already made clear that I'm willing to buy NEM for that price - I'm not joking when I do business!

[UtopianNow]

That is nothing in regard of the excepted value. I don't like to say someone should sell his stake directly to me, but in case this persons don't want to have that stake, he or she can sell it to me! I would be REALLY glad to get some stakes for 4-5 BTC!

@ all: Post me after launch if you want to sell your stake! I'll give you about 4-5 btc per stake!! please remember me!!!!!!!!!!

This is business. As an investment opportunity NEM has potential, but it could fail, so the greatest risk/reward is now for those who can afford to invest. I am prepared to take the risk now, and I am fortunate enough to have the means.

I will show my capacity to make this offer before anyone trades. NXT or bitcoin doesn't matter as I have both, but I do prefer NXT.

I am serious. Please don't joke about buying NEM stakes if you don't have the means.

As you already said "this is business".

In my last two posts I already made clear that I'm willing to buy NEM for that price - I'm not joking when I do business!

Then we are two buyers in the market for NEM stakes.

[randombit]

We have an actual Market Price for NEM

5 BTC : 1.000.000 NEM =

0.000005 BTC for  1 NEM     

a better start compared to Nxt  ))

[gaazje]

There seems to be a lot of envy from the ones that didn't become stakeholder.
Please start trolling somewhere else, this No Envy Movement is not a place for
you anyway..

[amdfxman1701]

why are all sockpockets so keen to announce how many stakes they have 

does it make any logical sense 

Which leaves us to conclude some people just wants to sabotage NEM.

Possible. But I also think a lot of these people are simply nxt trolls lying through their teeth. Could also be disgruntled sockpuppet owners who got caught.

[joninoakland]

I was browsing the NXT thread which I learned about after someone pointed out how to get a stake in NEM. In the NXT thread is a guy who has all the stats on those who forge. The distribution really isn't that wide.  It drives home the complaint about NXT being true. (A few large stakeholders) So now we have guys showing up on here trying to discredit NEM by putting it under the same umbrella as NXT. It makes perfect sense as NEM is probably the biggest threat to NXT at the moment from what I see.

L-O-L internet.

Since forging isn't intended as a means of distribution, how is that relevant?

I'm a NEM stakeholder and cautiously optimistic for its prospects... but to be honest, the bulk of what I see here are logos and bitching/complaining/defending NEM's stakes. In Nxt-land we're banging out the last few client bugs in the asset exchange. Not a lot here to make a reasonable Nxt holder shake at the knees.

You can go through the blocks and see how many people are forging.  From that data one can infer how wide the distribution is.  I didn't go through the guy's code, but his post seemed reasonable.  Thats how it is relevant.

I am not talking about "reasonable stake holders", I'm talking about the people who got in early and might have the majority of their networth derived from NXT or inside NXT.

[Sportfreund1488]

where is the remaining list? same thing how emnunie? we have since 2 days the end of the weekend.

[raymarius]

That is nothing in regard of the excepted value. I don't like to say someone should sell his stake directly to me, but in case this persons don't want to have that stake, he or she can sell it to me! I would be REALLY glad to get some stakes for 4-5 BTC!

@ all: Post me after launch if you want to sell your stake! I'll give you about 4-5 btc per stake!! please remember me!!!!!!!!!!

This is business. As an investment opportunity NEM has potential, but it could fail, so the greatest risk/reward is now for those who can afford to invest. I am prepared to take the risk now, and I am fortunate enough to have the means.

I will show my capacity to make this offer before anyone trades. NXT or bitcoin doesn't matter as I have both, but I do prefer NXT.

I am serious. Please don't joke about buying NEM stakes if you don't have the means.

As you already said "this is business".




In my last two posts I already made clear that I'm willing to buy NEM for that price - I'm not joking when I do business!

Then we are two buyers in the market for NEM stakes.

Both are good offers  but no thanks, I am holding mine for at least a full year  call me crazy but I really believe anyone selling their stakes right now will never be able to forgive himself when NEM becomes big. If NEM flops you are losing at most 50 bucks not a disaster if it succeeds who knows what it can be worth. Friends hold tight, help build the coin and we can all be winners 

[conbos]

Some money movement should exist; otherwise how cam we add value to NEM. I want to NEM succeed ad for that, I aware I should invest my stake to give the coin some value

[The Project]

New coin. Random Dif every hour!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530285.0

[SBOSS]

$0.00005 is really low, only like $50 per stake.
If it was that low, I would buy up like 20-50 stakes.  

I was an early NxT holder and trust me that coin would had hit minimum 300 million if there wasn't all the FUD (accurate fud, though) about NxT's IPO.

If NEM delivers on features and avoids the ill-reputations, it could go to the moon.

[jkoil]

I was browsing the NXT thread which I learned about after someone pointed out how to get a stake in NEM. In the NXT thread is a guy who has all the stats on those who forge. The distribution really isn't that wide.  It drives home the complaint about NXT being true. (A few large stakeholders) So now we have guys showing up on here trying to discredit NEM by putting it under the same umbrella as NXT. It makes perfect sense as NEM is probably the biggest threat to NXT at the moment from what I see.

L-O-L internet.

Since forging isn't intended as a means of distribution, how is that relevant?

I'm a NEM stakeholder and cautiously optimistic for its prospects... but to be honest, the bulk of what I see here are logos and bitching/complaining/defending NEM's stakes. In Nxt-land we're banging out the last few client bugs in the asset exchange. Not a lot here to make a reasonable Nxt holder shake at the knees.

This is said with much respect as a NEM holder -- any notion that negativity is coming from Nxters is a fairy tale, we're too busy testing and coding new services (I only visit this thread once a week to check stakeholder status).

I guess that is quite optimistic  
Likely not all are testing and coding. 1 - 2 weeks ago it was talked about hoarding

(I meant not to poke NXT or Nexters, as I support both NXT and NEM - just trying to pick up the facts and possibilities)

I'm a NEM stakeholder and I've been involved with Nxt since the beginning.  I can say honestly say that the majority of Nxters are pulling for NEM and hope it succeeds.  I can't remember anyone discussing NEM in the massive Nxt thread.  Swartzfeger is right, Nxters are far too busy to be negative about other crypto's. 

Vast majority (if not everyone) in nxt thread is a stakeholder in Nem as utopianfuture (and all other Nem developers) had some kind of nxt history.

jkoil is living in fantasy land.

I haven't earlier seen people jumping to the walls due to so light statement
Why did it hurt so? ?

You can't deny that there has been NXT hoarding problem. Ok, this was on the table 4 weeks, not 2 weeks ago, but anyway
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg5384028#msg5384028
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg5384527#msg5384527
and I guess the problem still exist.

Do you claim that those hoarders are currently testing and coding?
Do you claim that all Nxters are in NXT thread?
Do you claim that you know all the people, who own NXT's?
Do you claim that majority of the owners of 28000 NXT accounts are in NXT thread or testing?

No, no, no, no.
Therefore can be said that you cannot say, what some Nxt owner is writing somewhere. Or even writing in this thread, not in any fantasy land.

[jkoil]

Both are good offers  but no thanks, I am holding mine for at least a full year  call me crazy but I really believe anyone selling their stakes right now will never be able to forgive himself when NEM becomes big. If NEM flops you are losing at most 50 bucks not a disaster if it succeeds who knows what it can be worth. Friends hold tight, help build the coin and we can all be winners 

Waiting is the tactic, which I would also prefer more than pump and dump. Something must exist in the NEM systems that keeps it alive and progressing. 
'something' might be very confidential due to the competition between (alt) coins...

[jkoil]

mike's right.
I would go as far as to say that it is the same with every currency or even every unit of value.
Besides, money is of no value if you dont pass it around, no?

not every unit of value ?  Or what do you mean? In the world is lot of things having values...

Crypto currencies' problem is the missing relation to the 'real world'. And because of that they are under speculation of the gamers and "investors".