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Author Topic: [ANN] BETARIGS.COM - Cryptocurrency cloud mining - thousands of rigs available!  (Read 192333 times)
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February 17, 2014, 04:28:02 PM
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still great fan of your service and happy to see it growth every day.

A little input from my side again:

There seems to be "worse rated (9/10)" rigs which are in the best rated rigs section which have more (1-2) reviews but were rented less. But my 10/10 rig doesnt show up because not all renters gave/give a reply...

thanks again for considering the input!

The algo is, first compute the average feedback score rounded, and then on the one with the same score, the number of reviews win. (Because they are many rigs with only 10/10! Smiley )

Mux, I think you need to change the algo, as the current one favours short term rentals. Most stable rigs are rented for 1,2,3 days, and have potential to receive only one feedback for all this time. While, less stable rigs could get up to eight 3-hour rentals and 8 reviews in a 24-hour period...

You should give more weight to total rented time, than number of rentals.
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February 17, 2014, 06:31:35 PM
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Fantastic service and well implemented, thanks for that!

The only weirdness I'm seeing, and I only see it with Betarigs (as opposed to middlecoin/wafflepool/etc) is that sometimes, every GPU in the farm rings up several thousand hardware errors all at once, then it stops and it's back to normal.

Any idea what causes this, and if I need to worry about it?

My watchdog script originally would reboot a rig if a GPU hit 100 hardware errors (I have a couple that throw 10 errors a day or so), but I had to disable that feature with betarigs. 
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February 17, 2014, 06:46:38 PM
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If you're getting HW then you're pushing your GPU too hard. Anything above 0 isn't acceptable.
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February 17, 2014, 07:04:28 PM
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@Mux Suggestion

With leasing rate fluctuating so heavily, as person leasing rig, we need lot of time spent on setting appropriate price so that it is competitive as well as reflect current pricing.
So I will like you to implement functionality where leasing person can set price to (X +/- Y) or (Z +-Y)
where variable X is current highest price quoted
Z is mean price of rigs open for renting or already been rented
Y is variable which person wants to set (e.g + 0.001 BTC or - .002 BTC per MH/day)
And we should also be able to set lowest value so that it doesn't go below that.
This may seem bit complicated but will be very easy to implement in site since you are already sorting rigs by rent price and will be easy to figure out highest price and mean price.
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February 17, 2014, 07:06:04 PM
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Hello!

Is there a config setting to make cgminer switch faster to betarigs proxy/pool?

I assume cgminer is checking pools every once in a while to switch to #1 pool(if ALIVE), but I think my customers are loosing 5-15 minutes because of this.

Don't quote me but I believe sgminer switches faster than cgminer.
Check it out.

You're correct: sgminer switch time is 1min, cgminer is 5min.

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February 17, 2014, 07:07:59 PM
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Is there a service like this for ASIC mining?
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February 17, 2014, 07:12:51 PM
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If you're getting HW then you're pushing your GPU too hard. Anything above 0 isn't acceptable.

No, I have a couple that throw errors at stock clocks and low intensity, whereas 90% of my GPUs stick at 0 with the same config.  Imperfect silicon, I guess.  But mathematically, 10 errors a day have no tangible effect on performance, so it's not worth worrying about until the errors accelerate.  WU is the same for the problem cards as the rest, in other words.
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February 17, 2014, 07:19:56 PM
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A couple of suggestions about the "most voted rigs" on the main page:

1 - multiple feedback from the same user, should not count more then once for the rating. Currently is very easy build a fake account and increase the reputation.

2 - in the main page should be visible only the Available rigs, what's the point to show the rented/offline ones? When I want to rent a rig, I inspect the reputation among the available ones, I don't spend time on the rest


Best rigs on the frontpage will need a bit of tweaking at some point yes!
Showing the rented one is to browse through the one you may be interested in once they are available (special config such as big farms).

Fantastic service and well implemented, thanks for that!

The only weirdness I'm seeing, and I only see it with Betarigs (as opposed to middlecoin/wafflepool/etc) is that sometimes, every GPU in the farm rings up several thousand hardware errors all at once, then it stops and it's back to normal.

Any idea what causes this, and if I need to worry about it?

My watchdog script originally would reboot a rig if a GPU hit 100 hardware errors (I have a couple that throw 10 errors a day or so), but I had to disable that feature with betarigs. 

Betarigs is only a proxy to the customer pools, so I take some pools are putting slightly more pressure on your cards?

@Mux Suggestion

With leasing rate fluctuating so heavily, as person leasing rig, we need lot of time spent on setting appropriate price so that it is competitive as well as reflect current pricing.
So I will like you to implement functionality where leasing person can set price to (X +/- Y) or (Z +-Y)
where variable X is current highest price quoted
Z is mean price of rigs open for renting or already been rented
Y is variable which person wants to set (e.g + 0.001 BTC or - .002 BTC per MH/day)
And we should also be able to set lowest value so that it doesn't go below that.
This may seem bit complicated but will be very easy to implement in site since you are already sorting rigs by rent price and will be easy to figure out highest price and mean price.

That's getting a bit complicated, but I'm definitely getting the point for you rig owners! Smiley


Now, for the next 4 days, I'll be attending non-betarigs related matters, so don't expect new stuff until the next 4 days Smiley

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February 17, 2014, 07:20:25 PM
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Nitro.org pools are now accepting connections from betarigs for mining coins, thanks to Mux for the help. Come mine with us @ nitro.org

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February 17, 2014, 09:07:24 PM
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Betarigs is only a proxy to the customer pools, so I take some pools are putting slightly more pressure on your cards?

I don't think so.  We're talking about a whole bunch of GPUs that sit at 0 hardware errors all week and then BAM, 4000 in a matter of minutes on every single GPU.  Then it stops and no more errors.  It's happened on multiple rentals. I'm sure it's related to the renter's pool, but I have no idea what they could be doing to cause it.

I don't plan to do anything about it, as it doesn't actually hurt anything, it's just odd.  I thought maybe you'd seen it before.
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February 17, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
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Betarigs is only a proxy to the customer pools, so I take some pools are putting slightly more pressure on your cards?

I don't think so.  We're talking about a whole bunch of GPUs that sit at 0 hardware errors all week and then BAM, 4000 in a matter of minutes on every single GPU.  Then it stops and no more errors.  It's happened on multiple rentals. I'm sure it's related to the renter's pool, but I have no idea what they could be doing to cause it.

I don't plan to do anything about it, as it doesn't actually hurt anything, it's just odd.  I thought maybe you'd seen it before.

I noticed the same, my gpu, usually stable, does HW errors when rented.

I don't know if this happens each time it is rented, but when I check the stats, the HW errors are a lot
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February 17, 2014, 10:10:55 PM
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Betarigs is only a proxy to the customer pools, so I take some pools are putting slightly more pressure on your cards?

I don't think so.  We're talking about a whole bunch of GPUs that sit at 0 hardware errors all week and then BAM, 4000 in a matter of minutes on every single GPU.  Then it stops and no more errors.  It's happened on multiple rentals. I'm sure it's related to the renter's pool, but I have no idea what they could be doing to cause it.

I don't plan to do anything about it, as it doesn't actually hurt anything, it's just odd.  I thought maybe you'd seen it before.

I noticed the same, my gpu, usually stable, does HW errors when rented.

I don't know if this happens each time it is rented, but when I check the stats, the HW errors are a lot

Rented 4 rigs almost 13MH/s, got more than 100 email notification for workers on Idle

" One of your workers is currently IDLE: xxxx.xxxx

We have not received any shares for this worker in the past 10 minutes.

Since monitoring is enabled for this worker, this notification was sent."

it is quite annoying as I believe it hasn't generated the right amount of coins.
I still waiting for an answer from the pool's support to see if is a problem from their side.

It's all P&D!! Damn scammers!!
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February 17, 2014, 10:26:52 PM
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It's probably related to the pool you set, betarigs just acts as a proxy.
Or where those rigs pointed at different pools?
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February 17, 2014, 11:01:13 PM
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It's probably related to the pool you set, betarigs just acts as a proxy.
Or where those rigs pointed at different pools?

Errors have been reported even when used on different pools, I can only conclude that some settings in Betarings ( which is an excellent service) are causing this errors.

It's all P&D!! Damn scammers!!
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February 17, 2014, 11:03:42 PM
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Is there a service like this for ASIC mining?

I agree and would like to see SHA256/ASIC mining rigs at some point, leaserigs offers this but betarigs is much simpler to set up so would rather use you.

2.1TH standing by Smiley

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February 18, 2014, 12:33:45 AM
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Few things i could use if implemented...

Sort by column - Make the column titles click-able so you can sort up or down.

Results per page - lets you see 25 rigs, 50 rigs, 100 rigs, 250 rigs, or all. This will work well with the the sort by column feature i explained above.

Make the "Rented" buttons blue instead of red. The color red can then be used for the "Offline" rigs.  One other option would be to leave the "Rented" as red, and then have the "Offline" rigs hidden by default. You would need to populate a "Show Offline Rigs" checkbox in the search  filter section in order to see those rigs.

Remove the "Rent A Rig" button on your own rigs page. When you click on your own rig while still logged in, the Rent button is still displayed. I didn't try to rent my own rig, but it makes things a little confusing.

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February 18, 2014, 12:46:53 AM
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BUG:

Hi Mux, site is looking great but I found a small issue with the new filters...

I combined my rigs into 1 5mhash rental (http://www.betarigs.com/rig/33) and found that it didn't show up under either the large rig or farm filters.  Solution would be to make one of these filters inclusive of 5mhash instead of one being < and the other >.

Thanks for the great service!
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February 18, 2014, 02:31:29 AM
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BetaRigs just keeps getting better and better!!!

Keep it going!

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February 18, 2014, 02:54:57 AM
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I am running BAMT, and want to ensure that the betarigs pool will be switched to as quickly as possible to keep the renter happy.
How long should i expect it to take before cgminer automatically picks up betarigs.com? Is there anything i can do to speed up the changeover process? Here is my config file.


Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "http://eu.betarigs.com:3333",
"user" : "waramp22-1569",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://useast.middlecoin.com:3333",
"user" : "1K2sV195TPP3mUCeHxZxizWUFZFRAvBsHn",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://uswest.middlecoin.com:3333",
"user" : "1K2sV195TPP3mUCeHxZxizWUFZFRAvBsHn",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://amsterdam.middlecoin.com:3333",
"user" : "1K2sV195TPP3mUCeHxZxizWUFZFRAvBsHn",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://asia.middlecoin.com:3333",
"user" : "1K2sV195TPP3mUCeHxZxizWUFZFRAvBsHn",
"pass" : "x"
}
]
,
"auto-fan" : true,
"auto-gpu" : true,
"temp-cutoff" : "90",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"gpu-fan" : "0-100",
"intensity" : "20",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "scrypt",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "21712",
"shaders" : "0",
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "120",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"gpu-engine" : "1100",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "60",
"scrypt" : true,
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"
}

EDIT: I waited 15 minutes, and then restarted the mining which picked up betarigs no problem. I am getting around 35% rejects. Is that some sort of betarigs bug or a new altcoin?

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February 18, 2014, 03:54:14 AM
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I am running BAMT, and want to ensure that the betarigs pool will be switched to as quickly as possible to keep the renter happy.
How long should i expect it to take before cgminer automatically picks up betarigs.com? Is there anything i can do to speed up the changeover process? Here is my config file.


EDIT: I waited 15 minutes, and then restarted the mining which picked up betarigs no problem. I am getting around 35% rejects. Is that some sort of betarigs bug or a new altcoin?


Compare rejects to how you do on your own pools...if you are getting high rejects on your own pools then it is your config.  If you get normal reject % on your own pools then it is the renter's pool (it is probably this one).
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