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May 17, 2022, 09:14:12 PM
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Big and important win for Liverpool considering they put substitutes in this match. A risky move from Klopp. Everybody knows the chances are low but still have chances.

I was checking the tabble and see (correct me if im wrong) if Manchester United lose or draw and West Ham win , Manchester its going to the Conference League.

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May 17, 2022, 10:00:57 PM
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Arsenal were completely helpless in their game against Newcastle  yesterday as they missed the only golden chance that would have made them qualify for the champions league next season.Newcastle were absolutely in control of the game through out the match.They capitalised on Arsena's vulnerability in the midfield,and continue to maned more pressure on the Arsenal team.The only chance they have now is only if Tottenham looses their last game.
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May 17, 2022, 10:13:31 PM
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Yeah, Klopp has some serious balls fielding that side. I wasn't expecting so many changes that's for sure. Although, despite the changes we always looked in control, and despite the goal Southampton managed to get, which appeared to be deflected, I think we dominated the game, and largely Southampton didn't look that threatening.

I thought there was a foul leading up to the Southampton goal, and to be honest kind of dumbfounded on how it wasn't even considered worth looking into more closely. In my book was a clear foul. Anyway, I thought he did what we needed, and know the last game of the season is going to be absolute crazy, with so many other games also having significant weight on who finishes where, you could probably watch all games, and there's almost something to play for most of them.

I still have hope that Aston Villa will get something from the game, and we just need to beat Wolves.
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May 18, 2022, 06:02:26 AM
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Newcastle, did not need a single point for anything and they went and beat one of the UCL fighting teams. Spurs must be jumping with joy at this, I think this 4th place has been trading hands like so many times now but the momentum is with the white side of London. The funny thing with Newcastle too is that Eddie Howe will get all the plaudits for this, while when they lose, the news always talks about rebuilding and owners and club plans. I mean, I think he's a great manager but look at the team they have and they should actually be winning more. St Maximin they should protect too he is almost never 100% fit even on replays I see him play like he is shutting out the pain.
Newcastle is team in the top form and they know there will be a lot of new players next season. They are playing out of their skins to show they still deserve a place in new Newcastle. On the other hand Southampton looks like their players are on holidays for some time now. True that both teams have nothing to play for when looking at PL table but they have very different form and mentality at the moment.

Something I totally forgot and didn't consider at all. Still, I would have thought their best players are already playing their best, and still, Arsenal felt to me like the team with even more motivation.

But take away team and look at individuals and you're right sometimes. For teams like Arsenal they haven't made themselves a unit yet so the individual players going above and beyond make the difference, and Newcastle did this far better.

Manchester United in Conference league? Wow, that would be a new record (first English winner lol).

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May 18, 2022, 07:49:37 AM
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Newcastle is team in the top form and they know there will be a lot of new players next season. They are playing out of their skins to show they still deserve a place in new Newcastle. On the other hand Southampton looks like their players are on holidays for some time now. True that both teams have nothing to play for when looking at PL table but they have very different form and mentality at the moment.

I bet on them against Arsenal, they are one of the best teams in the league since Howe took over. As you said, they cannot let their form drop because that team will be fully revamped for next season.
I will probably bet on them away at Burnley in the last game of the season as well, Burnley will be fighting for their PL status so I expect good odds on a Newcastle win. That team will probably fight for Europe next year.

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May 18, 2022, 08:38:21 AM
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Anyone fancy Leicester taking a win from Chelsea today? Nothing to play for, and Chelsea on the back of a demoralising FA final loss... over 9/1 seems nice for me since Vardy's back from injury in time.

I was checking the tabble and see (correct me if im wrong) if Manchester United lose or draw and West Ham win , Manchester its going to the Conference League.

Fortunately, yes, and that's what I'm hoping for hahaha.

Europa: 5th place and FA cup winner
Conference: EFL Cup winner

United realistically never needed to finish higher than 6th since the FA Cup semi draw, since FA Cup win was almost certain to be by Top 5 teams, freeing up #6 in the league for Europa.

Too bad for Wolves.

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May 18, 2022, 02:15:49 PM
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Anyone fancy Leicester taking a win from Chelsea today? Nothing to play for, and Chelsea on the back of a demoralising FA final loss... over 9/1 seems nice for me since Vardy's back from injury in time.
Could be.

Just don't bet on Villa against City. I know you were eyeing this one but there is another piece of bad news for Liverpool supporters. It seems that Grealish has a clause where Villa gets 18M if City wins the league. Would be quite stupid from them to throw that kind of money away. Not to mention that City is good enough to win even if they play their best and I suspect they will not push it too hard in this game.

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May 18, 2022, 02:23:42 PM
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Anyone fancy Leicester taking a win from Chelsea today? Nothing to play for, and Chelsea on the back of a demoralising FA final loss... over 9/1 seems nice for me since Vardy's back from injury in time.

I was checking the tabble and see (correct me if im wrong) if Manchester United lose or draw and West Ham win , Manchester its going to the Conference League.

Fortunately, yes, and that's what I'm hoping for hahaha.

Europa: 5th place and FA cup winner
Conference: EFL Cup winner

United realistically never needed to finish higher than 6th since the FA Cup semi draw, since FA Cup win was almost certain to be by Top 5 teams, freeing up #6 in the league for Europa.

Too bad for Wolves.

The game in fact of Chelsea vs Leicester is tomorrow unless I am seeing it wrong but this is what Flashscore tells me.Anything can happen and Leicester can win,it depends on how well Chelsea reacts after losing the FA cup but I believe it is hard to find motivation after such a lost game when you are playing for nothing.

The one who spiced up the Premier League is Liverpool with yesterday win which I strangely enough got a correct score.

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May 18, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
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^Whoops, you're right, that's tomorrow. We got a cool Europa final to watch tonight though!

Anyone fancy Leicester taking a win from Chelsea today? Nothing to play for, and Chelsea on the back of a demoralising FA final loss... over 9/1 seems nice for me since Vardy's back from injury in time.
Could be.

Just don't bet on Villa against City. I know you were eyeing this one but there is another piece of bad news for Liverpool supporters. It seems that Grealish has a clause where Villa gets 18M if City wins the league. Would be quite stupid from them to throw that kind of money away. Not to mention that City is good enough to win even if they play their best and I suspect they will not push it too hard in this game.

You know I couldn't resist it, I already put one down (18/1). Didn't know anything about that $18 million and yeah, I think Villa will be professional and play properly but wouldn't be surprised if they have secret executive orders to not stress too much about it, that money could buy a really good player or a fleet of new playing/coaching staff.

I actually also have Watford bet at same odds also against Chelsea. Actually that's 3 bets I have left, other than Liverpool outright and parlays, all which I'll post up in my thread. If only 1 hits, I'll be happy, if not, well, it was still a fun season!

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May 18, 2022, 07:43:22 PM
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Just don't bet on Villa against City. I know you were eyeing this one but there is another piece of bad news for Liverpool supporters. It seems that Grealish has a clause where Villa gets 18M if City wins the league. Would be quite stupid from them to throw that kind of money away. Not to mention that City is good enough to win even if they play their best and I suspect they will not push it too hard in this game.


call me stupid, but I also think that Villa will play professionally, never mind the money
it is money for the club, not players, and yeah, club will earn money, but players can earn their part only with points from the pitch

but, yeah, it is a piece of the news, when you know that Villa is earning money by losing against City, good contract management
it is more to me that Villa lost all match against City since 2015, statistics have it that they have to take point after some seasons, but probably not this weekend
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Just don't bet on Villa against City. I know you were eyeing this one but there is another piece of bad news for Liverpool supporters. It seems that Grealish has a clause where Villa gets 18M if City wins the league. Would be quite stupid from them to throw that kind of money away. Not to mention that City is good enough to win even if they play their best and I suspect they will not push it too hard in this game.


call me stupid, but I also think that Villa will play professionally, never mind the money
it is money for the club, not players, and yeah, club will earn money, but players can earn their part only with points from the pitch

but, yeah, it is a piece of the news, when you know that Villa is earning money by losing against City, good contract management
it is more to me that Villa lost all match against City since 2015, statistics have it that they have to take point after some seasons, but probably not this weekend
They will be professional no doubt but this is a case of smaller club fighting against one of the giants. In games like this everything has to work out perfectly for Villa and every player has to give their absolute maximum. Villa is not the club that can defend 90 minutes against City meaning they have to score at least 2 goals and probably 3 to get away with some points.

Stats that you quoted show perfectly well how though it is for Villa in this match up. There will just be so much more on the line for City and I don't see any way Villa can get to the points here. Maybe if the stakes were reversed and City did not need the points.

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But then we have Gerrard on the Villa bench and I am sure he would very much like to take title away from City to his beloved LFC. I just remembered that while walking the dog. Maybe there is some chance for Villa here.

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May 18, 2022, 09:59:47 PM
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Just don't bet on Villa against City. I know you were eyeing this one but there is another piece of bad news for Liverpool supporters. It seems that Grealish has a clause where Villa gets 18M if City wins the league. Would be quite stupid from them to throw that kind of money away. Not to mention that City is good enough to win even if they play their best and I suspect they will not push it too hard in this game.


call me stupid, but I also think that Villa will play professionally, never mind the money
it is money for the club, not players, and yeah, club will earn money, but players can earn their part only with points from the pitch

but, yeah, it is a piece of the news, when you know that Villa is earning money by losing against City, good contract management
it is more to me that Villa lost all match against City since 2015, statistics have it that they have to take point after some seasons, but probably not this weekend
I already made the bets and locked them and did a little too big now when i look at it. Made some huge results for both City and Liverpool . Should have waited honestly a few more days but what the hell going with it. I hope i can reach the top 5 somehow i think im locked in top 10 for sure. If some miracle dosent knock me out

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call me stupid, but I also think that Villa will play professionally, never mind the money
it is money for the club, not players, and yeah, club will earn money, but players can earn their part only with points from the pitch
Ok, then we're both in the stupid camp haha. But nah, I think players, thankfully, are generally quite narcissists on the pitch. They will do their best to claim a scalp on final day. Careers are long and there aren't many opportunities to make an impression, and you never know which performance catches the eye of someone to get you more playing time, more salary at next negotiation, more rungs up the pecking order etc. Plus I've a feeling this team wants to demand Gerrard's eye, he's kinda that kind of manager I think. Enjoy your internet-free weekend, my man.

I already made the bets and locked them and did a little too big now when i look at it. Made some huge results for both City and Liverpool . Should have waited honestly a few more days but what the hell going with it. I hope i can reach the top 5 somehow i think im locked in top 10 for sure. If some miracle dosent knock me out

Draws took me tumbling in this current matchweek so yeah, hope to close out the 3 games left at least with points. Villa-Burnley and Everton-Palace tonight are banana skins...

I laboured a little too much over the final week's selection but I might still tinker with it on Saturday. Some obvious draws look likely but I'm going to risk tweaking a couple of tight wins, particularly with those fighting relegation.

But then we have Gerrard on the Villa bench and I am sure he would very much like to take title away from City to his beloved LFC. I just remembered that while walking the dog. Maybe there is some chance for Villa here.

Ings and Coutinho too, beloved ex-boys, and Ings almost scored against us recently (twice!), think if he had scored he'd have been man of the match if they took Diaz out of the team.

Oh, and I need to mention they gave us our worst defeat in my entire memory of watching Liverpool, maybe they can return the favour for City. Watkins had a hattrick on the day. You know I dream all kinds of dreams about this match, even though I'll be watching us try and take Wolves apart... GD is +6... and they have more goals scored so if, somehow, Villa win and we only draw, them winning by 7 goals is the only way we win the title.

But wait, there is one final, super unlikely scenario:
Liverpool draw 5-5
Villa win by 6 goals.

Then, City and Liverpool are tied on points, goal difference, AND goals scored. The next things to determine? H2H points, followed by away goals scored in the H2H. But they're also tied on this, 2-2 draws at both ties! The final thing to settle this is a one-off game.

Now, definitely call me stupid for spending time thinking of all these permutations ha ha!

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As we head into the final games of a long season, this is how the pool looks. It’s very close between the top guys or the money the money spots. Who do you think will land the top prize?


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I'm going with the prediction City 2 - 2 Aston Villa. I genuinely have the belief that Aston Villa can do it. Coutinho will have a good game, and Ings will be fired up. Gerrard will also have a little more to his team talks. I mean, wouldn't it just be poetic if Gerrard wins us that title? Since, arguably he probably does feel responsible for losing us our title with that game against Chelsea. Plus, it would be the closest he has come to winning the league with for us. I don't know, I just have a good feeling about it.

Oh, and I need to mention they gave us our worst defeat in my entire memory of watching Liverpool, maybe they can return the favour for City. Watkins had a hattrick on the day. You know I dream all kinds of dreams about this match, even though I'll be watching us try and take Wolves apart... GD is +6... and they have more goals scored so if, somehow, Villa win and we only draw, them winning by 7 goals is the only way we win the title.
It's that Stoke game for me, I don't think I need to clarify any more than that. Despite Aston Villa giving us a thumping recently, that Stoke game was definitely worse in my memory. Although, every team has a bad game, and it's nothing out of the ordinary. City sometimes have those games, although not very often in recent seasons. I mean, you could argue that we've smashed them to pieces at times even when we wasn't as strong as a team as we're now.
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May 19, 2022, 06:26:26 PM
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I have gone with three draws tonight,I know this is impossible to happen but I got nothing to lose,I am 11 points from the tenth place and decided to gamble it all tonight,I wasn't expecting any prize just trying the luck as I don't think the games will end in a draw although they can especially Everton and Burnley who need points desperately trying to get out and be safe from that relegation zone.

I think the winner will be decided between the top 4 actually leading the table as they are just 4 points shy of each other and that is a number which can be easily bypassed,even 5-10 place has some chances if they go for radical results during the last week of the tournament.

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May 19, 2022, 07:22:32 PM
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Villa-Burnley and Everton-Palace tonight are banana skins...


as started, it seems that all but favorites are winning tonight
Palace and Leicester are up, we play as shit, and it is really hard to watch fans at this point, supporting players that really do not put anything into this match

somehow, Arsenal lost their chance to reach CL, so they will have nothing to play for in last round, but I really hoped for us to go through tonight, there is still a lot to play, but does not look good at the moment
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As we head into the final games of a long season, this is how the pool looks. It’s very close between the top guys or the money the money spots. Who do you think will land the top prize?



Well you could have at least posted the top ten which I'm just clinging on to by half a point  Grin.

If Everton and Villa win today does that mean Leeds are relegated? Palace are currently 1-0 up against Everton and Burnley are drawing with Villa so I guess they're still in it. Shame Liverpool couldn't get all three points earlier in the month against Spurs as that will have certainly spiced things up for Sunday. Liverpool need to win and either hope City lose or get a draw but I can't see Villa beating City away. Liverpool should probably easy take Wolves at Anfield but it won't matter if City win.

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As we head into the final games of a long season, this is how the pool looks. It’s very close between the top guys or the money the money spots. Who do you think will land the top prize?



Well you could have at least posted the top ten which I'm just clinging on to by half a point  Grin.

If Everton and Villa win today does that mean Leeds are relegated? Palace are currently 1-0 up against Everton and Burnley are drawing with Villa so I guess they're still in it. Shame Liverpool couldn't get all three points earlier in the month against Spurs as that will have certainly spiced things up for Sunday. Liverpool need to win and either hope City lose or get a draw but I can't see Villa beating City away. Liverpool should probably easy take Wolves at Anfield but it won't matter if City win.

I guess it's safe to assume that Everton are intentional about getting relegated, aren't they ?

Draw against Watford should have been bad enough, but then losing against Brentford and now 2 goals down against Crystal Palace, without any real sense of urgency. I'm pretty sure they'd likely lose the last game to Arsenal as well, but Leeds would need a win against Brentford if that happens to stay up.

So much for playing safe in the pool, I had Everton to win because of their relegation battle, but I didn't do same for Burnley who are in the lead against Villa.

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I guess it's safe to assume that Everton are intentional about getting relegated, aren't they ?

Draw against Watford should have been bad enough, but then losing against Brentford and now 2 goals down against Crystal Palace, without any real sense of urgency. I'm pretty sure they'd likely lose the last game to Arsenal as well, but Leeds would need a win against Brentford if that happens to stay up.

So much for playing safe in the pool, I had Everton to win because of their relegation battle, but I didn't do same for Burnley who are in the lead against Villa.

Well Everton have equalised now to make it 2-2 and Burnley are drawing with Villa at 1-1. If these stay as draws it will certainly spice things up for the relegation battle. Gonna be very dicey for Leeds if both Burnley and Everton manage to grab the full three points now. I'm kinda hoping they both end a draw so there's everything for all three to play for.

Chelsea are also drawing 1-1 against Leicester right now.

Edit: Oh shit, Everton have come from 2-0 down to be winning 3-2 with only a few minutes to go!

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