Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread

[tomahawk9]

Liverpool are against Brighton which I'm actually not confident in. I might be going for something that isn't a win for the first time. Knowing my luck, Liverpool will likely blow Brighton away, which isn't out of the realms of possibility since we've had a small break now,and we should be a little more tactically adept with some of our injured players getting sharper every day.

Despite Liverpool's awful start of the season with tons of injuries and absolutely poor display of football, they still remain unbeaten at home, and i don't think that's gonna change this weekend against The Seagulls who appointed a new head coach 10 days ago. Tbh, I would be extremely worried if Liverpool don't put 3 past Brighton 🤔

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[Igebotz]

Anyway, the Premier League is finally back. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't really follow international football so have no idea what went on the last few weeks. Just checking though, it doesn't seem like we have any major injuries so that's something new.

You are not alone, and we, the fans, are not the only ones who have grown tired of international games; the players, particularly those from Africa, are also tired of it; most of them retire from international games to focus on club football. African football management is terrible; when you win games, you become the focus of the media; when you lose games, you are returned to your club to care for you and may never be called up again. International matches now appear to be rigged.

Liverpool are against Brighton which I'm actually not confident in. I might be going for something that isn't a win for the first time. Knowing my luck, Liverpool will likely blow Brighton away, which isn't out of the realms of possibility since we've had a small break now,and we should be a little more tactically adept with some of our injured players getting sharper every day.

I'm not sure about the new Brighton coach, but I'm sure things will be rough at first; grabbing this one is a huge advantage for Liverpool.

Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

[casperBGD]

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Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

IMO, it is a value bet on United, not sure that it is going to make it, but @1.33 I would skip City bet for sure
United started bad, but they are on winning strike in PL, and not so bad performance

City is playing solid on the other hand, winning as expected, two draws so far, and will win the title easily, but odds here are just statistics based, not including local rivalry, and derby status

[Joca97]

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Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

IMO, it is a value bet on United, not sure that it is going to make it, but @1.33 I would skip City bet for sure
United started bad, but they are on winning strike in PL, and not so bad performance

City is playing solid on the other hand, winning as expected, two draws so far, and will win the title easily, but odds here are just statistics based, not including local rivalry, and derby status

Well clearly to for me at least Man City is better then United by far. United picked up the form lately and is playing good but City is a much better team and have a good style of football. With derbies you can never know what will happen but i think City got this match in the bag.

[Trofo]

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Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

IMO, it is a value bet on United, not sure that it is going to make it, but @1.33 I would skip City bet for sure
United started bad, but they are on winning strike in PL, and not so bad performance

City is playing solid on the other hand, winning as expected, two draws so far, and will win the title easily, but odds here are just statistics based, not including local rivalry, and derby status

I usually end up playing both to score on those games. I don't think United has enough to take points from the City since I can't see how they stop Haaland. Martinez is good 20cm shorter then him while Maguire, if available, will maybe be able to physically match him but will gift few goals with his bad reactions and terrible positioning. United is good enough on counters to score a goal or maybe two if they are lucky and that is why both to score looks like best choice for me.

[Igebotz]

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Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

IMO, it is a value bet on United, not sure that it is going to make it, but @1.33 I would skip City bet for sure
United started bad, but they are on winning strike in PL, and not so bad performance

City is playing solid on the other hand, winning as expected, two draws so far, and will win the title easily, but odds here are just statistics based, not including local rivalry, and derby status

Splitting stakes on both teams appears to be a safe heaven, and I may go on a 30-70% stake for the first time this season, as Manchester United were playing good football before the international break, at least for the first time this season I'm having little trust on them. 7odds looks too good to pass up.

I usually end up playing both to score on those games. I don't think United has enough to take points from the City since I can't see how they stop Haaland. Martinez is good 20cm shorter then him while Maguire, if available, will maybe be able to physically match him but will gift few goals with his bad reactions and terrible positioning. United is good enough on counters to score a goal or maybe two if they are lucky and that is why both to score looks like best choice for me.

BTTTS looks like a value bet @1.40 but games after the international break are always unpredictable, I'm sticking with Arsenal @2.20 for the weekend as my value bet.

[Trofo]

BTTTS looks like a value bet @1.40 but games after the international break are always unpredictable, I'm sticking with Arsenal @2.20 for the weekend as my value bet.

What is BTTTS? If you mean both to score than the odds are not correct. I did not check them before but now that you wrote 1.4  I was thinking that cannot be right. Both to score on Manchester derby has odds over 1.7 on most bookies. That is acceptable, I would never play it for just 1.4.

Don't trust Arsenal against Spurs with Son back in form. Both to score for me as well.

[Igebotz]

BTTTS looks like a value bet @1.40 but games after the international break are always unpredictable, I'm sticking with Arsenal @2.20 for the weekend as my value bet.

What is BTTTSBTTS? If you mean both to score than the odds are not correct. I did not check them before but now that you wrote 1.4  I was thinking that cannot be right. Both to score on Manchester derby has odds over 1.7 on most bookies. That is acceptable, I would never play it for just 1.4.

Yes, both teams to score, it was a typo, and you are correct about the odd of 1.70; I was on another fixture from the championship BTTS page when I dropped that post, so that's where the error came from. It's likely to end 0-0 or 1-0 at halftime, so I'm going with 2HT most scoring half at 1.95.

Don't trust Arsenal against Spurs with Son back in form. Both to score for me as well.

It's an important London derby and I'm not going to go into too much detail on this one because too much in-depth analysis hasn't served me well this season. I'm only going to pick a side because I know it's a 50-50 game and the chances of it ending goalless are slim.

[Harkorede]

BTTTS looks like a value bet @1.40 but games after the international break are always unpredictable, I'm sticking with Arsenal @2.20 for the weekend as my value bet.

What is BTTTS? If you mean both to score than the odds are not correct. I did not check them before but now that you wrote 1.4  I was thinking that cannot be right. Both to score on Manchester derby has odds over 1.7 on most bookies. That is acceptable, I would never play it for just 1.4.

Don't trust Arsenal against Spurs with Son back in form. Both to score for me as well.

I personally would trust both teams to score in the Manchester Derby to be honest, It could all end up being a one sided affair or a bore fest, and for the fact that my bias would be on the side of Man City, I still couldn't justify the ML odds at ~ 1.38 for Man City, so that fixture's only value to me is to spectate.

London Derby is actually of a much more interest to me, and both teams to score and Over 2.5 goals here would be highly probable from my perspective, Arsenal still have lots of work to do defensively and Tottenham counter attacking football could be of real damage to Arsenal should Arsenal concede the first goal of the game. It's tough to pick a side though, but Arsenal would be my call here I'm to pick one.

[Welsh]

Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

I mean, United are definitely on the rise. However, I'm not too convinced. Their best win was probably against us, but everyone knows how abysmal we were at the time. City on the other hand as been pretty consistent, and are by far the best team in the league right now. Especially with Haaland  who's basically scoring for fun.


So, while I don't think the odds should be that bad for United, I do agree with City being a sizeable favourite going into the match. I'd say City at around 1.4-1.5 would've been more align with current from, considering United are definitely on the up, and morale is starting to pick up from a terrible few seasons.

[Trofo]

Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

I mean, United are definitely on the rise. However, I'm not too convinced. Their best win was probably against us, but everyone knows how abysmal we were at the time. City on the other hand as been pretty consistent, and are by far the best team in the league right now. Especially with Haaland  who's basically scoring for fun.


So, while I don't think the odds should be that bad for United, I do agree with City being a sizeable favourite going into the match. I'd say City at around 1.4-1.5 would've been more align with current from, considering United are definitely on the up, and morale is starting to pick up from a terrible few seasons.

Yeah, those odds would be much more realistic. I guess they are this low since bookie algorithms favor home sides a lot, but City isn't a home team, and without looking at the stats I sort of feel they have it easier when playing away.

Most other teams are home dependant and then they just park the bus when playing away while they try to open up a bit more and actually play on home turf. That extra space is golden for City.

[swogerino]

Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

I mean, United are definitely on the rise. However, I'm not too convinced. Their best win was probably against us, but everyone knows how abysmal we were at the time. City on the other hand as been pretty consistent, and are by far the best team in the league right now. Especially with Haaland  who's basically scoring for fun.


So, while I don't think the odds should be that bad for United, I do agree with City being a sizeable favourite going into the match. I'd say City at around 1.4-1.5 would've been more align with current from, considering United are definitely on the up, and morale is starting to pick up from a terrible few seasons.

It looks like a really low odd for Manchester City vs United,whatever the form of the squads this game is a derby and it does not matter that much,even in situations when a team has been near the bottom of the standings and one team fighting for the title,in a derby game there are quite some cases where the team which was suffering in the bottom to have won the game.

Manchester United comes from quite some consecutive victories and two against important teams in the Premier League which is Liverpool and Arsenal,they won both games so the real true odd should be like 1.80-1.90 for Manchester City.

[cryptofrka]

Agreed, it's a derby after all. City has started strong but we had a long break now - so maybe it has slowed them down a bit.

It is weird to see that the odds on a City's home win against United are higher than Brighton's win at Anfield. I will try something on United for sure.

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I guess they are this low since bookie algorithms favor home sides a lot, but City isn't a home team, and without looking at the stats I sort of feel they have it easier when playing away.

Most other teams are home dependant and then they just park the bus when playing away while they try to open up a bit more and actually play on home turf. That extra space is golden for City.

it is a two way street I would say
true that City is having more space to attack when playing aside, but smaller teams are counting on possibility to get some points when playing home, and do not give up at any point, and when they come to City turf, they already count on zero points, and eventually change mind after 60-70 minutes, if the match is still open, or even later

IMO, United has value, but the match could end-up goalless as well

[buwaytress]

Anyway, the Premier League is finally back. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't really follow international football so have no idea what went on the last few weeks. Just checking though, it doesn't seem like we have any major injuries so that's something new.

Liverpool are against Brighton which I'm actually not confident in. I might be going for something that isn't a win for the first time. Knowing my luck, Liverpool will likely blow Brighton away, which isn't out of the realms of possibility since we've had a small break now,and we should be a little more tactically adept with some of our injured players getting sharper every day.

Southgate not going for TAA was the best piece of news for me. Same as Salah, released early by Egypt, but we had only 12 players called up, some didn't play, and no one got injured I think. Funny enough Jota who wasn't fully fit playing his last game for us played all Portugal minutes so I was worried all the time for him.

Brighton new manager but I don't expect a bounce... they didn't fire a shit one hoping for better fortunes, they'll probably be still hung up over losing him.

3-0, come on, now

Why is Manchester City at 1.35 against Manchester United? Is it really this bad?

IMO, it is a value bet on United, not sure that it is going to make it, but @1.33 I would skip City bet for sure

To be fair, the last time I recall winning betting on United vs City was 10/1 when Pogba was still there, 3 seasons ago? United are actually that bad that I think odds now (under 8/1) isn't good enough value, but then again I agree it's not bad being the derby, you never know who shows up and who doesn't.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Our (LFC’s) season starts Saturday, we are going to tear Brighton apart. Thiago ball about to be unleashed
Our injured players are coming back now, I think we’ll start winning now. Been a tough start to the season but hopefully now we’ll become the team we’ve been for the last 4 years.

Predictions submitted & ready for the PL to restart, I hate international breaks.

[cryptofrka]

Our (LFC’s) season starts Saturday, we are going to tear Brighton apart. Thiago ball about to be unleashed
Our injured players are coming back now, I think we’ll start winning now. Been a tough start to the season but hopefully now we’ll become the team we’ve been for the last 4 years.

Predictions submitted & ready for the PL to restart, I hate international breaks.

Fully agree here, but this one came to us at a perfect time - combined with delayed PL games.
I really hope it was enough for a restart - Brighton is a dangerous team. Last season they were fantastic away from home and I really hope we don't expect an easy game.

Last year they won at the Emirates and Old Trafford and drew at Anfield and Stamford bridge.

[tokeweed]

^  Yup but they had a good manager who I think has the potential to be great in Graham Potter tho.  I don't think they would've had decent results without him.  But with the line at 1.37 for Liverpool, it's a pass.

The match I have my eye on is Arsenal vs the Spurs.  Why is the Spurs such a big dog here?  Arsenal had a soft set of fixtures before their big test vs United...  And failed.  :/  And the Spurs hasn't lost a match this season so far.  So what do you guys think of Spurs or draw double chance and BTTS combo at 2.55 and BTTS and over 2.5 goals combo at 1.92? 

[Trofo]

The match I have my eye on is Arsenal vs the Spurs.  Why is the Spurs such a big dog here?  Arsenal had a soft set of fixtures before their big test vs United...  And failed.  :/  And the Spurs hasn't lost a match this season so far.  So what do you guys think of Spurs or draw double chance and BTTS combo at 2.55 and BTTS and over 2.5 goals combo at 1.92? 

Exactly my thoughts, I already wrote about both to score few post before and that will be on my ticket for sure. I am also thinking Spurs can get at least a point from this game. Spurs were quite good while Son was was totally out of form, or maybe it would be better to say out of confidence. After he scored that first goal he looked like totally different player and scored 2 more. Then he continued and scored in both games for Korea. IMHO Son is even better than Kane when he plays at his best and Spurs will be super dangerous now.

Can't wait for PL to start, will have to get into the club football mood by watching Bayern tonight

[Welsh]

Our (LFC’s) season starts Saturday, we are going to tear Brighton apart. Thiago ball about to be unleashed
Our injured players are coming back now, I think we’ll start winning now. Been a tough start to the season but hopefully now we’ll become the team we’ve been for the last 4 years.

Predictions submitted & ready for the PL to restart, I hate international breaks.

Yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised if we go on a unbeaten run when we actually start that run. I'm not hundred percent sure that'll be this weekend, as Brighton are a decent team. What I will say though, we've conceded a lot recently, and usually first. I find that Brighton at times can actually struggle to score even when in decent position to do so. Hopefully, that helps us settle some nerves, get on the score sheet first, and sort out business. I do think I'll be predicting something that isn't a win for Liverpool in an attempt to leapfrog my way up the table though.