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May 28, 2014, 03:40:24 PM
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This is an awesome update!

How difficult would it be to create a QR scanner app in the design of Mintcoin?
Would be another cross promo avenue... if possible.

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May 28, 2014, 03:55:52 PM
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Android wallet update 7:

Paspi you're doing awesome work mate,
looking forward to using this as a POS app for my tablet at work
and make transactions even smoother.
(i firmly believe that the price downtrend we are seeing now is just the market accomodating itself to receive your release!)

How difficult would it be to create a QR scanner app in the design of Mintcoin?
+1 on this, QR scan would add extra functionality.

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May 28, 2014, 04:48:02 PM
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This is an awesome update!

How difficult would it be to create a QR scanner app in the design of Mintcoin?
Would be another cross promo avenue... if possible.
What do you mean? Wallet currently has a built-in QR scanner (provided by another application I suppose), and it doesn't have any branding on it -- just a full screen camera view.

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May 28, 2014, 04:57:51 PM
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why aren't exchanges actually minting? is it included in the protocol?  Shocked

of course centralization will be gained by such a bank but i think there are still a lot of people who will still use their own wallets.

the idea is just a centralized web wallet. no lending or selling financial products. 15-20% interest rate annually is already more than any bank can offer.

Exchanges don't mint because it would create a fractional reserve. If everyone wanted to withdraw at once, they couldn't because coins would be reserved for the minting process. This would cause issues.
If you don't know what you are talking about don't reply.

Fractional Reserve banking is when a bank only has to have a fraction of the funds on hand that it is lending. Since an exchange doesn't lend money your claim is ridiculous.

However it is clear that most people aren't ready for cryptos. The point of it is to get away from banks etc, not recreate the mainstream financial system on a small scale.

I will suggest you read up on what it means on Wikipedia or some other resource. This is quite literally exactly what minting does:

I have 1500 coins. I am staking 1000 of them (lending them to the blockchain to be added into a new block). If someone wants to withdraw 1500 coins, they can't because I don't HAVE 1500; I only have 500. I have to wait until the rest are returned from the blockchain/minting process before they can be sent out again.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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May 28, 2014, 05:35:35 PM
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Noone knows purpose of something created for decentralized use.. Its just supposed to help in some way. Maybe cryptos will end up used by banks to help international business and thats it... maybe they will end up changing banking altogether. For someone to restrict their vision shows that they are inept and not capable of thinking logically. Maybe they are butthurt because of something in their life but to come on here and flame people for "not knowing what they are talking about" is just classless.

Furthermore he seems to know what other people are ready for or not.. that in itself should render further discussion useless with this entity.

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May 28, 2014, 07:09:47 PM
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"...an active team edits the crap out of their ANN Thread on a regular basis so information is not outdated for those who are researching the coin. People who currently research Mintcoin as a possible investment are going to find tons of dead links and a dead website. What’s the chance they’ll want to push their BTC into Mintcoin in that condition?"
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May 28, 2014, 07:32:02 PM
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"...an active team edits the crap out of their ANN Thread on a regular basis so information is not outdated for those who are researching the coin. People who currently research Mintcoin as a possible investment are going to find tons of dead links and a dead website. What’s the chance they’ll want to push their BTC into Mintcoin in that condition?"

The website is back up, what's more you could flag any dead links in the OP rather than quote an old complaint made by someone else.

Looking forward to the Android Wallet!

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May 28, 2014, 08:01:14 PM
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why aren't exchanges actually minting? is it included in the protocol?  Shocked

of course centralization will be gained by such a bank but i think there are still a lot of people who will still use their own wallets.

the idea is just a centralized web wallet. no lending or selling financial products. 15-20% interest rate annually is already more than any bank can offer.

Exchanges don't mint because it would create a fractional reserve. If everyone wanted to withdraw at once, they couldn't because coins would be reserved for the minting process. This would cause issues.
If you don't know what you are talking about don't reply.

Fractional Reserve banking is when a bank only has to have a fraction of the funds on hand that it is lending. Since an exchange doesn't lend money your claim is ridiculous.

However it is clear that most people aren't ready for cryptos. The point of it is to get away from banks etc, not recreate the mainstream financial system on a small scale.

I will suggest you read up on what it means on Wikipedia or some other resource. This is quite literally exactly what minting does:

I have 1500 coins. I am staking 1000 of them (lending them to the blockchain to be added into a new block). If someone wants to withdraw 1500 coins, they can't because I don't HAVE 1500; I only have 500. I have to wait until the rest are returned from the blockchain/minting process before they can be sent out again.
You are wrongly conflating a superficial resemblance between some details about various types of financial transactions and coming to a faulty conclusion.

POS staking is only temporary unavailability and if POS were anyway analogous to FRB you WOULD be able to withdraw those coins during minting, in effect creating money from nothing.

Instead the unavailability of staked funds is for a short duration only, the stake is returned to your wallet within minutes, AND since the stake cannot be "loaned" (withdrawn actually) during the staking process when the funds would be in "reserve" it is totally unlike fractional reserve banking which requires that loans exceeding the reserve be made.

the minting process is analogous to POW mining, funds received from minting are recompense for securing the blockchain and has absolutely nothing to do with lending practices such as fractional reserve banking.





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May 28, 2014, 08:03:07 PM
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"...an active team edits the crap out of their ANN Thread on a regular basis so information is not outdated for those who are researching the coin. People who currently research Mintcoin as a possible investment are going to find tons of dead links and a dead website. What’s the chance they’ll want to push their BTC into Mintcoin in that condition?"

The website is back up, what's more you could flag any dead links in the OP rather than quote an old complaint made by someone else.

Looking forward to the Android Wallet!

none of the merchant sites I checked were broken links, this is just FUD
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May 28, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
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"...an active team edits the crap out of their ANN Thread on a regular basis so information is not outdated for those who are researching the coin. People who currently research Mintcoin as a possible investment are going to find tons of dead links and a dead website. What’s the chance they’ll want to push their BTC into Mintcoin in that condition?"

The website is back up, what's more you could flag any dead links in the OP rather than quote an old complaint made by someone else.

Looking forward to the Android Wallet!

none of the merchant sites I checked were broken links, this is just FUD

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May 28, 2014, 08:30:34 PM
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why aren't exchanges actually minting? is it included in the protocol?  Shocked

of course centralization will be gained by such a bank but i think there are still a lot of people who will still use their own wallets.

the idea is just a centralized web wallet. no lending or selling financial products. 15-20% interest rate annually is already more than any bank can offer.

Exchanges don't mint because it would create a fractional reserve. If everyone wanted to withdraw at once, they couldn't because coins would be reserved for the minting process. This would cause issues.
If you don't know what you are talking about don't reply.

Fractional Reserve banking is when a bank only has to have a fraction of the funds on hand that it is lending. Since an exchange doesn't lend money your claim is ridiculous.

However it is clear that most people aren't ready for cryptos. The point of it is to get away from banks etc, not recreate the mainstream financial system on a small scale.

I will suggest you read up on what it means on Wikipedia or some other resource. This is quite literally exactly what minting does:

I have 1500 coins. I am staking 1000 of them (lending them to the blockchain to be added into a new block). If someone wants to withdraw 1500 coins, they can't because I don't HAVE 1500; I only have 500. I have to wait until the rest are returned from the blockchain/minting process before they can be sent out again.
You are wrongly conflating a superficial resemblance between some details about various types of financial transactions and coming to a faulty conclusion.

POS staking is only temporary unavailability and if POS were anyway analogous to FRB you WOULD be able to withdraw those coins during minting, in effect creating money from nothing.

Instead the unavailability of staked funds is for a short duration only, the stake is returned to your wallet within minutes, AND since the stake cannot be "loaned" (withdrawn actually) during the staking process when the funds would be in "reserve" it is totally unlike fractional reserve banking which requires that loans exceeding the reserve be made.

the minting process is analogous to POW mining, funds received from minting are recompense for securing the blockchain and has absolutely nothing to do with lending practices such as fractional reserve banking.


how long are the coins actually staked? 5-10 minutes? that's not that bad.

actually i'm not talking about a bank in the sense of a financial institution. what i am suggesting is in fact an online wallet which makes it easier for people to start with mintcoins. i think such a thing is crucial for the mass adoption. the strongest argument for using mintcoins are the high interest rates. i think we should focus on that and make it as easy as possible for new investors.

also i think we shouldn't make things to difficult legally by including a fiat exchange. that's really complicated on many levels. i think a big wallet people put their mintcoins into is legally absolutely clean. just private persons putting their cryptos in a wallet. nothing more. AND it can be done anonymously which seems to be a BIG point right now.
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May 28, 2014, 08:33:27 PM
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How is the MINT android app coming along? I would be interested in reading how it was implemented as a lightweight wallet due to the pos difficulties.

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May 28, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
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While Mintcoin is still cheap, im gonna buy some this weekend.
Increase my holdings, and get some more interest this year.
And I see the mintcoin team has played it smart, holding the premine for some good actions for the coin.
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May 28, 2014, 08:48:23 PM
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"...an active team edits the crap out of their ANN Thread on a regular basis so information is not outdated for those who are researching the coin. People who currently research Mintcoin as a possible investment are going to find tons of dead links and a dead website. What’s the chance they’ll want to push their BTC into Mintcoin in that condition?"

The website is back up, what's more you could flag any dead links in the OP rather than quote an old complaint made by someone else.

Looking forward to the Android Wallet!

none of the merchant sites I checked were broken links, this is just FUD

Then that article is spitting out FUD left and right... it said most of the links were 404 errors... hmmm.

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May 28, 2014, 09:10:22 PM
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"...an active team edits the crap out of their ANN Thread on a regular basis so information is not outdated for those who are researching the coin. People who currently research Mintcoin as a possible investment are going to find tons of dead links and a dead website. What’s the chance they’ll want to push their BTC into Mintcoin in that condition?"

The website is back up, what's more you could flag any dead links in the OP rather than quote an old complaint made by someone else.

Looking forward to the Android Wallet!

none of the merchant sites I checked were broken links, this is just FUD

Then that article is spitting out FUD left and right... it said most of the links were 404 errors... hmmm.
I randomly clicked something like 20 links. None of the merchants was broken but some of the games and one multipool was.
Someone should go through all of them and remove the dead once.
Allso one other multipool should be added. Im on my cellphone right now and dont remember the url but its in here a couple of pages back.
Pretty good pool! Pays out really good!

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May 28, 2014, 09:46:16 PM
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hey guys, what about a MINTCOIN ONLINE BANK?


a simple site where you can login with an email and a password (possible anonymously using Tor). There you have your own Mintcoin account where you can send money to or withdraw money.

behind all this is a person/dev/institution/fund with a huge wallet running 24/7. they can charge you a bit for running the Bank but you will still get your annual interest.

advantages:

- simple for average users
- don't worry about your wallet not minting, wrong wallet, slow wallet or energy costs
- accessable via any PC, smartphone, tablet (also the apple products)
- anonymous

disadvantages:

- you have to trust the organisation/people running the bank
- network security (i still think a lot of people would run their own wallets)


I hope some people are interested in discussing this suggestion. I would give a LOT of my Mints as a bounty if this is really developed. I think it's even better than the android wallet.

Cheers
I think its a great idea! I have been thinking about this myself for some time now since i read that many people have their mints on exchanges because they dont want to install a wallet.
The problem i see is how to keep track of whos coins have minted and how mutch but i do have some ideas how to simplify this.
I might build something just to try it out..

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Quote from: dille71
Quote from: Jeff Jefferson on May 27, 2014, 11:18:32 AM

hey guys, what about a MINTCOIN ONLINE BANK?


a simple site where you can login with an email and a password (possible anonymously using Tor). There you have your own Mintcoin account where you can send money to or withdraw money.

behind all this is a person/dev/institution/fund with a huge wallet running 24/7. they can charge you a bit for running the Bank but you will still get your annual interest.

advantages:

- simple for average users
- don't worry about your wallet not minting, wrong wallet, slow wallet or energy costs
- accessable via any PC, smartphone, tablet (also the apple products)
- anonymous

disadvantages:

- you have to trust the organisation/people running the bank
- network security (i still think a lot of people would run their own wallets)


I hope some people are interested in discussing this suggestion. I would give a LOT of my Mints as a bounty if this is really developed. I think it's even better than the android wallet.

Cheers

I think its a great idea! I have been thinking about this myself for some time now since i read that many people have their mints on exchanges because they dont want to install a wallet.
The problem i see is how to keep track of whos coins have minted and how mutch but i do have some ideas how to simplify this.
I might build something just to try it out..

The minting is easy enough. Just pay out minted coins relative to the deposits. It's the wallet that mints, so this is both fair and simple.

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Quote from: Jeff Jefferson on May 27, 2014, 11:18:32 AM

hey guys, what about a MINTCOIN ONLINE BANK?


a simple site where you can login with an email and a password (possible anonymously using Tor). There you have your own Mintcoin account where you can send money to or withdraw money.

behind all this is a person/dev/institution/fund with a huge wallet running 24/7. they can charge you a bit for running the Bank but you will still get your annual interest.

advantages:

- simple for average users
- don't worry about your wallet not minting, wrong wallet, slow wallet or energy costs
- accessable via any PC, smartphone, tablet (also the apple products)
- anonymous

disadvantages:

- you have to trust the organisation/people running the bank
- network security (i still think a lot of people would run their own wallets)


I hope some people are interested in discussing this suggestion. I would give a LOT of my Mints as a bounty if this is really developed. I think it's even better than the android wallet.

Cheers

I think its a great idea! I have been thinking about this myself for some time now since i read that many people have their mints on exchanges because they dont want to install a wallet.
The problem i see is how to keep track of whos coins have minted and how mutch but i do have some ideas how to simplify this.
I might build something just to try it out..

The minting is easy enough. Just pay out minted coins relative to the deposits. It's the wallet that mints, so this is both fair and simple.

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Its based on coin age so one need to keep track on every coins age and staking is pretty random so it is alot to keep track on to know whos coins have staked what ammount if people withdraws/deposit every now and then.

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But as i said i have some ideas how to simplify it..

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