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November 01, 2018, 10:05:07 AM
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Are you going to provide service (platform) for creating security tokens or you will have just an own blockchain with smartcontracts (like Ethereum, Neo) for creating tokens? And what different between Ethereum blockchain and yours? People able to create security tokens on any blockchain... so why another one?

Dusk is NOT a general purpose smart contract platform.
It is extremely focused on the use cases it intends to unlock and as a result it can be very specific in the strategies it adopts to scale and satisfy the NFRs of the use cases at hand.

It basically focuses on providing the right confidentiality in the 3 different scenario that render the platform a true network:
1 - Unidirectional atomic transfer of value (basically, payments)
2 - Bidirectional atomic exchange of value (transfer of asset ownership - securities fall in this category)
3 - Time unbound exchange of value (transmission of data stream - such as audiovisual conferencing, content streaming, etc)

We are gonna rollout sequentially the three layers of the network, which will each unlock one of these 3 parts
However we believe that 2 is the most critical as it taps into a market which potential is in the Trillions of Euros
Since we are heavily partial for this particular use case, it is very logical that we adjust the protocol to satisfy all the regulations (and not, like in the cases above, adjust the application layer to workaround the protocol limitations)

To give you an example of what we can do on Dusk which would be unthinkable in Ethereum please consider the following feature.

Dusk decouples the (centralized) KYC/AML vendor process from the (decentralized) security issuance and transaction arbitration with the aid of time-locked accumulators. Cryptographic accumulators are ideal for implementing zero-knowledge white/black listing accreditation of (un-)compliant investors and automated accreditation. Also, expiry mechanism can be added for forcing rechecks. It roughly works in the following way: as soon as the KYC/AML process completes, the transactor identifier (basically his registered wallet address, but it can also be something else, i.e. biometric data, etc) is committed to the accumulator, which remains opaque and discloses nothing of its set. A witness (called compliance witness) is thus generated and returned to the applicant. Such witness is the proof of set inclusion. From that point on, all transactions related to that particular asset class (token) must include the compliance witness. Since the info is directly added as payload of our own (improved) version of bulletproof transactions, the need for open data inspection on transaction clearance is therefore removed. The accumulator is stored on-chain (as it basically is just a number) and recheck forcing can happen through a removal operation which activation can be coded trustlessly and can be as simple as a periodic expiry or by encoding more sophisticated rules through a (zk-)smart contract.
Dusk will host the accumulators directly ON CHAIN, since it is line with our strategy to handle scenario nr. 2 of the above list

Ethereum would never do such a thing considering that it would not make sense to store a data structure on chain that is specific for a tiny fraction of its applications (i.e. Polymath and Harbor) and would be completely useless for, say, propositions such as Omisego, Kyber, Basic Attention Token, Bancor, Status, Civic, Aragon, etc etc.

This means that the applications would have to battle against the Ethereum protocol (i.e. move an eventual accumulator off-chain to the detriment of decentralization).

This would have nefarious consequences for scalability as well, considering that these proposition must resort to  continuously calling smart contracts in order to arbitrate the transaction operations (to the detriment of both performance and privacy), while Dusk is in the liberty of enriching the transaction directly with zero knowledge data from the transactors (the compliance witness), leaving absolute liberty over which vendor the issuer wants to rely upon and keeping the centralized compliance-related operations (like for instance KYC/AML) separated from the transaction stream.
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November 01, 2018, 10:43:22 AM
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What concerns me a bit is that there are a lot of team members in Dusk focusing on the tech, but considering the uncertain and fast changing legal status of crypto assets, let alone STOs, they may need way more jurists, lawyers and lobbyists specialized in financial regulation.

you're right, even though I doubt jurists can say something usefull right now. It is such an unclear area. How many ICO projects claimed they had a legal opinion saying they weren't securities that are now shitting their pants. What's most important right now is official guidelines, laws etc

I would say its easier to outsource a lawyer then a good tech member who would be loyal to your company and your goal. For me its better their team focuses on this aspect and potentially outsource  legal department.

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November 01, 2018, 11:45:34 AM
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Yeah, really weird. After all, then it turns out that it is in some way airdrop for random lucky?
On the other hand, the team did not conduct a bounty campaign. Incomprehensibly.
As far as I know, theyre focusing on private sale and private deals/agreements, I think there is no need to conduct a bounty campaign.
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November 01, 2018, 12:25:33 PM
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As i see tokensale started on ETHFinex already? Can you give to investors how to participiate there, as I even didnt try ETHFinex before and didnt participate in token sale there before  Huh

As already started tokensale? Why can't I find it there. Can you give me a link to the trading pair?

Mate, this is not an usual listing. Ethfinex open Token Sale Platform some time ago. And DUCK have initial token sale on their platform. Look:

https://www.ethfinex.com/token-sales/5bd1d37094fae88aff237d13/Dusk-Network
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November 01, 2018, 12:51:54 PM
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impressive team. More strengthen by Dmitry Khovratovich as senior cryptographer.  DUSK is definitely best project to watch for 2019.   
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November 01, 2018, 12:54:34 PM
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What concerns me a bit is that there are a lot of team members in Dusk focusing on the tech, but considering the uncertain and fast changing legal status of crypto assets, let alone STOs, they may need way more jurists, lawyers and lobbyists specialized in financial regulation.

you're right, even though I doubt jurists can say something usefull right now. It is such an unclear area. How many ICO projects claimed they had a legal opinion saying they weren't securities that are now shitting their pants. What's most important right now is official guidelines, laws etc

I would say its easier to outsource a lawyer then a good tech member who would be loyal to your company and your goal. For me its better their team focuses on this aspect and potentially outsource  legal department.
I agree there are many ways of  gatting lawyer that can help with the paper work but there are not that many good computer engineers especialized in this area without a job.
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November 01, 2018, 01:11:30 PM
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As i see tokensale started on ETHFinex already? Can you give to investors how to participiate there, as I even didnt try ETHFinex before and didnt participate in token sale there before  Huh

As already started tokensale? Why can't I find it there. Can you give me a link to the trading pair?

Mate, this is not an usual listing. Ethfinex open Token Sale Platform some time ago. And DUCK have initial token sale on their platform. Look:

https://www.ethfinex.com/token-sales/5bd1d37094fae88aff237d13/Dusk-Network

Is it required a brand new registration on Ethfinex, or the same credentials and KYC of Bitfinex are fine to start trading?
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November 01, 2018, 01:37:16 PM
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As i see tokensale started on ETHFinex already? Can you give to investors how to participiate there, as I even didnt try ETHFinex before and didnt participate in token sale there before  Huh

As already started tokensale? Why can't I find it there. Can you give me a link to the trading pair?

Mate, this is not an usual listing. Ethfinex open Token Sale Platform some time ago. And DUCK have initial token sale on their platform. Look:

https://www.ethfinex.com/token-sales/5bd1d37094fae88aff237d13/Dusk-Network

Is it required a brand new registration on Ethfinex, or the same credentials and KYC of Bitfinex are fine to start trading?

To participate in the Ethfinex tokensale you'll need to download the Blockpass app and complete fill in your personal profile. Next you just follow a few steps on the Ethfinex page and you're good to go!
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November 01, 2018, 01:51:30 PM
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DUSKNetwork is about reconciling privacy and trasparency. While it is true that DUSKNetwork is a fungible cryptocurrency, the network also aims to provide different confidentiality for transfer of assets other than cash. Goal is to provider regulatory compliance in regulated markets.
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November 01, 2018, 03:15:41 PM
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impressive team. More strengthen by Dmitry Khovratovich as senior cryptographer.  DUSK is definitely best project to watch for 2019.   
I myself also thought that in this project there would be an impressive team and by looking at the DUSK project team that would certainly make the participants who joined this project be optimistic, and certainly all that would take time so be patient to wait for the project to succeed

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November 01, 2018, 03:21:28 PM
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Two updates live from Malta!



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November 01, 2018, 03:35:37 PM
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November 01, 2018, 04:55:09 PM
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Two updates live from Malta!






Malta is definitely a good news for any crypto project at this moment. I hope Dusk will take the advantage of the Maltan opportunities in crypto sphere and make the most out of it.
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November 01, 2018, 05:38:48 PM
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Dusk network team is very active in every area, in bitcointalk, in malta in everywhere. And as far as i understand they are very open to trying new things. (ethfinex token sale news that i am referring to)

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November 01, 2018, 06:27:31 PM
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About Malta's exchange news,  this means that all security tokens have "the good to go " next year?  This is a great news not only for dusk ecosystem but for all security tokens

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Two updates live from Malta!






Malta is definitely a good news for any crypto project at this moment. I hope Dusk will take the advantage of the Maltan opportunities in crypto sphere and make the most out of it.
And again the good news! I like that the project team has recently become more active, they have become closer to the community, and investors appreciate it.
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I would say its easier to outsource a lawyer then a good tech member who would be loyal to your company and your goal. For me its better their team focuses on this aspect and potentially outsource  legal department.
I agree there are many ways of  gatting lawyer that can help with the paper work but there are not that many good computer engineers especialized in this area without a job.

If you have ever seen the crypto hearings you would know the legal aspect of crypto is anything but paperwork.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?452837-1/senate-banking-panel-explores-cryptocurrencies-blockchains
https://www.c-span.org/video/?440770-1/jay-clayton-christopher-giancarlo-testify-hearing-virtual-currencies
https://www.c-span.org/video/?448611-1/house-panel-examines-digital-currency
https://www.c-span.org/video/?442556-1/hearing-focuses-cryptocurrency-markets

Doubly so for new paradigms like STOs in this industry, especially since they will interact more with the traditional financial world while regulators, finance ministers and central bankers are trying to ring fence crypto to prevent any contagion risks. I am not making this up.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/ecb-board-member-crypto-is-contagion-and-contamination-infecting-the-global-financial-system

By the way DUSK outsources part of their tech to Kryha Wink
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Two updates live from Malta!





You are just spoiling us at this point. When people get used to getting good news so rapidly, they'll be pissed off when they won't got their weekly fix.

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November 01, 2018, 09:43:29 PM
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November 01, 2018, 09:47:41 PM
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Two updates live from Malta!


You are just spoiling us at this point. When people get used to getting good news so rapidly, they'll be pissed off when they won't got their weekly fix.

Haha, I thought almost the same, but people will always complain, no matter what you do.
People who will complain about Dusk simply just have no idea, I have rarely seen such a professional project in recent months.

 
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