[NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!

[Doxter]

The pumpamentals for Florin remains strong, weak hands have liquidated and the price can charge towards $1000.

My outlook on Gulden changed, I liquidated my personal folio to invest in Florin. With 1 or 2 high volume exchanges and continued marketing with famous celebs , next month $1000 will be the new bottom.

I leave Gulden in the capable hands of pong ping puff the magic dragon.

Why the sudden change of heart towards Florin?

Not sudden but silent and for longer then you think.  The setup is to milk Gulden to support Florin and milking is for cows and I ain't no cow.
Rijk made it clear as the grand canyon on a clear spring morning where his priorities were and unless you a boomer with bad eyesight you have no excuse not to have started liquidating Gulden. Plain truth folks!

[Albert4Gulden]

Don't panic with the florin price, over 2000 Florin in holding accounts expired in the last few days and some took profit. Hold tight the price will go up soon.

[BarryDnH]

90% of the xfl coins was purchased for 2 Euro when it was still Novo, at this price they 150x the initial investment. At 100000 satoshi they up 50x. Lots of people making good money.

[Doxter]

Interim solution to maintain value , double the Gulden dev trough from 65 to 130 to cover development for both coins and bring forward the Florin halving by 3 years. Florin miner and holder rewards are out of proportion when the price is over $500, a halving will nullify this problem when the coin resumes it's next shuttle launch.

[BramVee]

Gulden is still the only country coin which is existing and still being developed to this day. I'm pretty sure Gulden will have major traction one day but for now it's up for the whales/community to push the price up

"I will keep my eye on Florin, it's too late to buy at this price and expect any RoI."

See you at €800,-

Halfway there now

Almost had to the opportunity to say €800,- is here. But I guess it was a little bit too soon.

First €40 by Sunday.

[FlorinXFL]

Interim solution to maintain value , double the Gulden dev trough from 65 to 130 to cover development for both coins and bring forward the Florin halving by 3 years. Florin miner and holder rewards are out of proportion when the price is over $500, a halving will nullify this problem when the coin resumes it's next shuttle launch.

enough with the FUD, any change like increasing the dev reward would need to be approved by the GAB and I can say with 2000000% certainty the community will not go with a dev reward increase. Any change that is made will need to be to the benefit of all!!!

First €40 by Sunday.

Get in line if you want those prices.

[Dlv2.0]

Interim solution to maintain value , double the Gulden dev trough from 65 to 130 to cover development for both coins and bring forward the Florin halving by 3 years. Florin miner and holder rewards are out of proportion when the price is over $500, a halving will nullify this problem when the coin resumes it's next shuttle launch.

The Gulden reward is obv not required, in all Likelihood this is taken care of by the new investors who will pay Rijk monthly for development and the Gulden reward is a bonus, if the investors were smart they could double the Gulden price and have a personal investment in Gulden and let development be taken care of by the Gulden reward. My small brain might be missing something?

[Cathaya]

What is a good amount of Florin to buy? 200-300 ?

[Albert4Gulden]

What is a good amount of Florin to buy? 200-300 ?

You don't need that many coins. Only 135k supply and 210 000 is max supply but we will all be dead before that number is reached. About 180 is a good number, this make sure you are a top 1000 owner in your lifetime.

With Gulden you need to have 700k to be a top 1000 owner for all time.

[TheCanadianBach]

I thought the florin party would never end. Will give a low supply coin another go when I know the price has settled and stable like it was the first 2 years.

[BarryDnH]

I thought the florin party would never end. Will give a low supply coin another go when I know the price has settled and stable like it was the first 2 years.

90% of the coins was purchased at 2 Euro, they selling all the way down under 30 Euro. Be patient because none of these traders who purchased for 2 Euro will be wanting to buy above 100 Euro and this is the reason for no buy support.

[Albert4Gulden]

I thought the florin party would never end. Will give a low supply coin another go when I know the price has settled and stable like it was the first 2 years.

90% of the coins was purchased at 2 Euro, they selling all the way down under 30 Euro. Be patient because none of these traders who purchased for 2 Euro will be wanting to buy above 100 Euro and this is the reason for no buy support.

It will take a few months without any news for the price to go under 30 Euro and the big investor has put a lot of coins in holding for 3 years. 60584 Florin in holding and supply is around 135 000. Possible 74 000 coins can be sold but most people are in Florin
for the long term because I don't think this investor will put coins away for 3 years if they did not have a long term vision for Florin.

[Disbelief]

How will Florin be different from the disaster that is Gulden? You have the same team that couldn't get exchange listings or proper marketing done in 8 years. Blockhut is a shit service that only offers the ability for Rijk to sell the Gulden dev reward. Please enlighten me, I am all ears.

[Albert4Gulden]

How will Florin be different from the disaster that is Gulden? You have the same team that couldn't get exchange listings or proper marketing done in 8 years. Blockhut is a shit service that only offers the ability for Rijk to sell the Gulden dev reward. Please enlighten me, I am all ears.

The main difference is Florins premine was sold to a group of investors and they pay the team for Development.

Gulden community, traders, independent investors etc pays the team for development for the last 8 years but the shortcoming is the Gulden price is too low to have money for exchange listings and marketing. Gulden might get some mentions in marketing by the rich Florin investors
but we will see.

[Dlv2.0]

How will Florin be different from the disaster that is Gulden? You have the same team that couldn't get exchange listings or proper marketing done in 8 years. Blockhut is a shit service that only offers the ability for Rijk to sell the Gulden dev reward. Please enlighten me, I am all ears.

The main difference is Florins premine was sold to a group of investors and they pay the team for Development.

Gulden community, traders, independent investors etc pays the team for development for the last 8 years but the shortcoming is the Gulden price is too low to have money for exchange listings and marketing. Gulden might get some mentions in marketing by the rich Florin investors
but we will see.

I can speak from a perspective that I am financially free. Gulden paid off my debts in 2017 and my HEX investment has secured my financial freedom, therfore I am in a position where I wouldn't sell the Gulden I owned unless the price was >  €1 .
I was one of the traders that tried to keep the price above what was required for development but after Novo was announced I became skeptical that development for Gulden would cease to exist or at best receive minor updates while Novo and now Florin got all the attention.
At this stage my skeptism has proven correct, Gulden has only received a change in supply and reward update to appease the Gulden community in the last 2 years, this move saved the coin from a price of under 10 sat. It's doubtful we will see another development update for Gulden in 2022 and it's assumed Rijk will need to appease the new Florin investors.

Rijk has admitted according to other posts here that he has no more personal Gulden and if the founder has no Gulden then why should he care. His development costs are taken care of by the Florin investors and his own personal investment is tied up in Florin.

The conclusion is Gulden is getting a bad deal.

Would I invest in Florin?

Out of principle I will stay clear, because in 4 years the Florin whales will be blamed for him starting a new coin after he has sold all his florin and it's left to the "decentralised community" to make it work. Rinse and Repeat [take 3].

The answer is clear as to which of these 2 coins you should take a risk on if you can't find anything else of value in the crypto market.

[rijk]

That’s a lovely story.

[Albert4Gulden]

Gulden remains strong and will be successful in the long term. Florin is store of value, to hold and see your wealth grow and is the coin I will first invest in if I didn't have Gulden or Florin, but try invest in both.

[BramVee]

Gulden remains strong and will be successful in the long term. Florin is store of value, to hold and see your wealth grow and is the coin I will first invest in if I didn't have Gulden or Florin, but try invest in both.

Gulden is dead and Florin is good investment at under €40 , too many people got in cheap.

[Doxter]

Gulden remains strong and will be successful in the long term. Florin is store of value, to hold and see your wealth grow and is the coin I will first invest in if I didn't have Gulden or Florin, but try invest in both.

Gulden is dead and Florin is good investment at under €40 , too many people got in cheap.

Gulden is on a perpetual death spiral but enough about that has been of a coin.
Florin is ready for ultimate glory, don't miss the boat because it's not turning back.

[TheCanadianBach]

Gulden remains strong and will be successful in the long term. Florin is store of value, to hold and see your wealth grow and is the coin I will first invest in if I didn't have Gulden or Florin, but try invest in both.

The main difference for Florin is you can invest and not worry, the new investors will take care of everything for you. They own 45000 coins so they can't expect a person with < 100 coins to make them rich or do work for them. After 8 years with Gulden trying the community driven approach, it's safe to say it has not worked, if it is possible to onbaord serious investors in for Gulden this road should be pursued even if it means giving up some freedom of choice as the community is not able to drive the coin forward. Let people with the financial clout make it happen.