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[mumbly]

Coins have already supplied 45000000 but we are still in mint phase?! Why?

[incin]

Coins have already supplied 45000000 but we are still in mint phase?! Why?

Current supply includes 8 million from IPO/Premine. So we have ~ 8 Mil to go to finish mint phase (8 mil + 45 mil). Mint phase will end with 53 Million coins. The IPO/Premine is essentially the 1st Phase with the coin.

[TheRealSteve]

Pool hash rates and miners

pool	rate (Mh/s)*	delta***	% of network	miners**	rate/miner	fee (%)	payout
http://hvc.1gh.com/	10,523.12	3,694.94	68.96			1	RBPPS
http://heavycoin.zhpool.com/	4,645.60	40.00	30.44	92.7	50.11	1	PPLNS
http://heavycoin.miningpoolhub.com/	49.18	-13.28	0.32	3.2	15.37	1	PROP
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/	42.29	-12.77	0.28	8.3	38.4	1	PPLNS
total	15,260.19	3,708.89	100

* due to rate variability displayed through pool statistics pages, rates are based on average of 10 samples over the past hour
** miner count for 1gh unavailable
*** Delta since last update

Block Progression and Pool Luck

last 24h 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub hash avg 9,602.43 52.15 4,577.89 87.18 blocks 676 4 267 3 hash % 67.06 0.36 31.97 0.61 blocks % 71.16 0.42 28.11 0.32 luck % 106.10 115.60 87.90 51.90

| | | | | | | |

last 7d 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub hash avg 10,145.74 51.64 5,768.24 66.86 blocks 3,599 15 1,850 9 hash % 63.28 0.32 35.98 0.42 blocks % 65.76 0.27 33.80 0.16 luck % 103.91 85.09 93.95 39.43

1gh Top stats

Top 100 Mhash/s | Top 10 Mhash/s Total: 10,450.75 | Total: 6,156.99 Mean rate: 104.51 | Mean rate: 615.70 Median rate: 13.52 | Median rate: 550.45 Mode(10) rate: 0 | Mode(100) rate: 300 % of pool: 99.3% | % of pool: 58.5% % of network: 68.5% | % of network: 40.3%

Pool voting

Mining (indicative, not authoritative!)

payoff per Mhash/s / day ideal solo 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub HVC 34.91761 34.92 28.59 31.57 13.25 mBTC 0.09044 0.09 0.07 0.08 0.03 USD 0.05579 0.06 0.05 0.05 0.02 pool take/day 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub HVC 3,578.43 14.91 1,839.43 8.95 BTC 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 USD 5.72 0.02 2.94 0.01

Based on last 7 days performance and... block reward: HVC696 | mBTC/HVC: 0.00259 | USD/BTC: $616.95

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[mumbly]

Coins have already supplied 45000000 but we are still in mint phase?! Why?

Current supply includes 8 million from IPO/Premine. So we have ~ 8 Mil to go to finish mint phase (8 mil + 45 mil). Mint phase will end with 53 Million coins. The IPO/Premine is essentially the 1st Phase with the coin.

Thanks incin - It seems like I need a holiday from the Internet - I'll be back in 48 hours.

Cheers,
M

[incin]

Coins have already supplied 45000000 but we are still in mint phase?! Why?

Current supply includes 8 million from IPO/Premine. So we have ~ 8 Mil to go to finish mint phase (8 mil + 45 mil). Mint phase will end with 53 Million coins. The IPO/Premine is essentially the 1st Phase with the coin.

Thanks incin - It seems like I need a holiday from the Internet - I'll be back in 48 hours.

Cheers,
M

Everyone needs a break, good for you for taking one! Internet can be unforgiving at times, especially when the amount of time/money is involved as such with crypto. I just think HVC community needs a leader. Someone to bring things together, coordinate things and so on. You are doing well so far.   There are followers but most are quiet. Might be worthwhile running a poll for some things like the logo. Maybe pick 3 and put it up for vote. Highest tally after a week or however long wins and go with that for now.

For what its worth im partial to the 'Black Leather' logo. Would be curious to see what a dark grey leather of that would look like. https://i.imgur.com/ufSWvtf.png

[reb0rn21]

I can not help HVC community, only way to help is to buy HVC it as I can and i do

death to HVC dumper who tried to short in last few days

also I think now its the best time to buy before limited phase hit, which have limited period, then I will drop my vote to 1, but now its on 1K because i want mint phase to be over as fast as possible, at limited phase we should concentrate on price and decentralization, but for now let we wait for mint phase to be over

[p1nky]

Hey p1nky,

Bare with me buddy. To be completely honest, I'm a little frustrated tonight, but it's not pointed in your direction, just the thread mood in general.

...

Hi mumbly,

I can understand your frustration to some degree. It is always painful to put effort into something and then just see a negative feedback (even if it's not even related to what you are doing directly).

I have been joining this crypto world just a few months ago and don't really know that much. However it seems to me that developers showing an effort and being open plays a very important role for such coins to build up hype but probably even more importantly also show that you can trust in the coin. Money is a convention that in itself is worth almost nothing, but only because most people believe it is worth something. This is the same with cryptocoins. People need to believe that a HVC coin they have is worth something, and also how much it is worth.

How much it is worth is determined by what you can buy for it, apparently a not so easy long term goal for most coins, and I am glad you are working on that, because this is of course very important for the long term success of this coin.
How much it is worth is also determined by how many coins there are and how many there will be shortly. This is really also a main factor.

Now we had the situation that the main page for this coin shows info that is incorrect. It shows 56 days for the soon to be effective limit phase. As we have determined in this thread it will however be 88.1 days.
This might seem an unimportant number on some page in the internet for someone. But it is the information given on the main page of this coin for one of the most important factors determining how much such a coin is worth. And as we have seen the number of coins we will have is significantly influenced by this number.

Take for example reborn, who just stated he votes 1024 in order to have the mint phase ended as soon as possible in order to put a stop to the inflation as soon as possible. Do you think having 85.1 days more of heavy inflation instead of the previously anticipated 53 days is just some "minor number" for him? Anyone investing in this coin, who made the decsion to invest in it based on the expected supply determined by the information given on the main page, for any of these persons learning about some "minor mistakes" it could be earth shattering for the trust this person has in this coin. He could lose his trust, dump his coin, lower the price, and thus lowering the chances of this coin becoming a success.

And because this coin from a technical point of view seems to be working fine, allows energy efficient mining, and has some other things in the "pro" column, it would be a damn shame if it failed, just because the devs are too damn lazy to put the correct information up there.

In my opinion being as open and correct and fast as possible when answering questions, putting up necessary information, and correctiong mistakes, is 100x more important for the success than having some quiz game in order to produce posts in this thread so that the coin doesn't seem completely dead.

Take another example that I just discovered about the limit phase:
Page says "0 − 64,999,424 HVC" will be generated in Limit phase.
Page says "63,476 blocks" will be generated in Limit phase.
Page also says "The second phase (Limit) allows a maximum vote of 1024 HVC for the first 59,876 blocks, but 8 HVC for the last ~3,600 blocks so it can transition into to the last phase (Sustain). The Sustain phase allows a maximum vote of 8 HVC."

BUT: my Excel says: (63,476 - 3600) * 1024 = 61,313,024 plus 3600* 8 = 28,800 and in total this is 61,341,824 ... and NOT the 64,999,424 it says on the page.

So that means maximum total supply in the end will be 3,657,600 less than anticipated, ending not with 128M coins (max) but instead 124,342,400.
Which in this case probably is a GOOD thing. But it's a BAD thing we do not have the correct information up there.

Also if I may suggest something: having a "real" site for this might also sound more trustworthy than having a subdomain on github. Something like www.heavycoin.info or so.

p1nky

[fengkaitj]

Coins have already supplied 45000000 but we are still in mint phase?! Why?

Current supply includes 8 million from IPO/Premine. So we have ~ 8 Mil to go to finish mint phase (8 mil + 45 mil). Mint phase will end with 53 Million coins. The IPO/Premine is essentially the 1st Phase with the coin.

OH MY Dear  Blooding G! Another desperate ten days!

[fengkaitj]

My friend who's the main developer of SFMINER (which is a successful mining asic company. Its huge capability scrypt asic has been released to the market and the FPGA of X11, N-factor is close to completing.) told me that the algorithm of HVC is the best and securest for now and it's the only pow algorithm for which SFMINER is not able to design a asic.

Everyone bought this coin had believed it would succeed. However, instead of '' to da moon", it's "to da deep earth"

No one will suprise for The death of  a copied coin. But if  this coin failed, it's really a pity and a shame.

[incin]

Hey p1nky,

Bare with me buddy. To be completely honest, I'm a little frustrated tonight, but it's not pointed in your direction, just the thread mood in general.

...

Hi mumbly,

I can understand your frustration to some degree. It is always painful to put effort into something and then just see a negative feedback (even if it's not even related to what you are doing directly).

I have been joining this crypto world just a few months ago and don't really know that much. However it seems to me that developers showing an effort and being open plays a very important role for such coins to build up hype but probably even more importantly also show that you can trust in the coin. Money is a convention that in itself is worth almost nothing, but only because most people believe it is worth something. This is the same with cryptocoins. People need to believe that a HVC coin they have is worth something, and also how much it is worth.

How much it is worth is determined by what you can buy for it, apparently a not so easy long term goal for most coins, and I am glad you are working on that, because this is of course very important for the long term success of this coin.
How much it is worth is also determined by how many coins there are and how many there will be shortly. This is really also a main factor.

Now we had the situation that the main page for this coin shows info that is incorrect. It shows 56 days for the soon to be effective limit phase. As we have determined in this thread it will however be 88.1 days.
This might seem an unimportant number on some page in the internet for someone. But it is the information given on the main page of this coin for one of the most important factors determining how much such a coin is worth. And as we have seen the number of coins we will have is significantly influenced by this number.

Take for example reborn, who just stated he votes 1024 in order to have the mint phase ended as soon as possible in order to put a stop to the inflation as soon as possible. Do you think having 85.1 days more of heavy inflation instead of the previously anticipated 53 days is just some "minor number" for him? Anyone investing in this coin, who made the decsion to invest in it based on the expected supply determined by the information given on the main page, for any of these persons learning about some "minor mistakes" it could be earth shattering for the trust this person has in this coin. He could lose his trust, dump his coin, lower the price, and thus lowering the chances of this coin becoming a success.

And because this coin from a technical point of view seems to be working fine, allows energy efficient mining, and has some other things in the "pro" column, it would be a damn shame if it failed, just because the devs are too damn lazy to put the correct information up there.

In my opinion being as open and correct and fast as possible when answering questions, putting up necessary information, and correctiong mistakes, is 100x more important for the success than having some quiz game in order to produce posts in this thread so that the coin doesn't seem completely dead.

Take another example that I just discovered about the limit phase:
Page says "0 − 64,999,424 HVC" will be generated in Limit phase.
Page says "63,476 blocks" will be generated in Limit phase.
Page also says "The second phase (Limit) allows a maximum vote of 1024 HVC for the first 59,876 blocks, but 8 HVC for the last ~3,600 blocks so it can transition into to the last phase (Sustain). The Sustain phase allows a maximum vote of 8 HVC."

BUT: my Excel says: (63,476 - 3600) * 1024 = 61,313,024 plus 3600* 8 = 28,800 and in total this is 61,341,824 ... and NOT the 64,999,424 it says on the page.

So that means maximum total supply in the end will be 3,657,600 less than anticipated, ending not with 128M coins (max) but instead 124,342,400.
Which in this case probably is a GOOD thing. But it's a BAD thing we do not have the correct information up there.

Also if I may suggest something: having a "real" site for this might also sound more trustworthy than having a subdomain on github. Something like www.heavycoin.info or so.

p1nky

The discrepancy comes from the formula Keccak wrote on page 280 of the thread....

The equation you are looking for

Code:

main.h:62:static const int64 MAX_MONEY = (PHASE1_MONEY + PHASE2_BLOCKS*MAX_VOTE + (nBlockRewardVoteSpan + 1)*MAX_VOTE + PHASE3_MONEY) * COIN;

Missing from your calculations is (nBlockRewardVoteSpan + 1)*MAX_VOTE
A special voting interval needed to make sure the block reward decreases from 1024 down to 8 before the sustain phase starts; otherwise you could start the sustain phase with 1024 block reward, which would be bad...

you gets

Code:

MAX_MONEY = 53000000 + (63476 - 3600 - 1)*1024 + 3601*1024 + 10000000 + 576 = 128,000,000

This has been on the "About" page from day one: https://heavycoin.github.io/about.html#decentralised-voting

The second phase (Limit) allows a maximum vote of 1024 HVC for the first 59,876 blocks, but 8 HVC for the last ~3,600 blocks so it can transition into to the last phase (Sustain).

There is a discrepancy on whether the last 3601 block are limited to 8 or 1024. Keccak formula above says 1024 for those blocks, but the quote on the site says 8 for those transition blocks. The difference in supply is...

3601 * 1024 = 3,687,424
vs
3601 * 8 = 28,808

[cayars]

My understanding is that you need to lower your vote to 8 or below for this last set of blocks.

However these last block vote count are used to setup the sustain phase.  As far as reward goes it will still use the previous blocks for that.

[TheRealSteve]

Pool hash rates and miners

pool	rate (Mh/s)*	delta***	% of network	miners**	rate/miner	fee (%)	payout
http://hvc.1gh.com/	8,111.18	-2,411.93	50.86			1	RBPPS
http://heavycoin.zhpool.com/	7,619.40	2,973.80	47.78	138.9	54.86	1	PPLNS
http://heavycoin.miningpoolhub.com/	165.15	115.97	1.04	2	82.58	1	PROP
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/	52.02	9.72	0.33	8.4	38.4	1	PPLNS
total	15,947.75	687.56	100

* due to rate variability displayed through pool statistics pages, rates are based on average of 10 samples over the past hour
** miner count for 1gh unavailable
*** Delta since last update

Block Progression and Pool Luck

last 24h 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub hash avg 9,432.95 54.55 5,865.08 199.25 blocks 570 1 319 7 hash % 60.65 0.35 37.71 1.28 blocks % 63.55 0.11 35.56 0.78 luck % 104.80 31.80 94.30 60.90

| | | | | | | |

last 7d 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub hash avg 9,940.11 51.43 5,659.09 83.09 blocks 3,559 15 1,832 13 hash % 63.18 0.33 35.97 0.53 blocks % 65.68 0.28 33.81 0.24 luck % 103.96 84.67 93.99 45.42

1gh Top stats

Top 100 Mhash/s | Top 10 Mhash/s Total: 8,643.97 | Total: 5,077.08 Mean rate: 86.44 | Mean rate: 507.71 Median rate: 11.50 | Median rate: 552.75 Mode(10) rate: 0 | Mode(100) rate: 200 % of pool: 106.6% | % of pool: 62.6% % of network: 54.2% | % of network: 31.8%

Pool voting

Mining (indicative, not authoritative!)

payoff per Mhash/s / day ideal solo 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub HVC 35.80085 35.80 29.16 32.37 15.64 mBTC 0.09058 0.09 0.07 0.08 0.04 USD 0.05659 0.06 0.05 0.05 0.02 pool take/day 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub HVC 3,594.59 15.15 1,850.32 13.13 BTC 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 USD 5.68 0.02 2.92 0.02

Based on last 7 days performance and... block reward: HVC707 | mBTC/HVC: 0.00253 | USD/BTC: $624.78

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[TheRealSteve]

Pool hash rates and miners

pool	rate (Mh/s)*	delta***	% of network	miners**	rate/miner	fee (%)	payout
http://hvc.1gh.com/	8,658.26	547.08	53.42			1	RBPPS
http://heavycoin.zhpool.com/	7,291.30	-328.10	44.98	133.6	54.58	1	PPLNS
http://heavycoin.miningpoolhub.com/	188.10	22.95	1.16	1.7	110.65	1	PROP
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/	71.62	19.60	0.44	9.7	38.4	1	PPLNS
total	16,209.29	261.54	100

* due to rate variability displayed through pool statistics pages, rates are based on average of 10 samples over the past hour
** miner count for 1gh unavailable
*** Delta since last update

Block Progression and Pool Luck

last 24h 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub hash avg 9,235.99 58.56 7,324.74 185.96 blocks 490 2 391 6 hash % 54.96 0.35 43.59 1.11 blocks % 55.12 0.22 43.98 0.67 luck % 100.30 64.60 100.90 61.00

| | | | | | | |

last 7d 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub hash avg 9,619.58 53.83 5,678.40 95.73 blocks 3,507 14 1,882 16 hash % 62.27 0.35 36.76 0.62 blocks % 64.72 0.26 34.73 0.30 luck % 103.92 74.14 94.48 47.64

1gh Top stats

Top 100 Mhash/s | Top 10 Mhash/s Total: 8,468.69 | Total: 5,047.98 Mean rate: 84.69 | Mean rate: 504.80 Median rate: 15.46 | Median rate: 336.13 Mode(10) rate: 0 | Mode(100) rate: 100 % of pool: 97.8% | % of pool: 58.3% % of network: 52.2% | % of network: 31.1%

Pool voting

Mining (indicative, not authoritative!)

payoff per Mhash/s / day ideal solo 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub HVC 36.45326 36.45 26.00 33.14 16.71 mBTC 0.08968 0.09 0.06 0.08 0.04 USD 0.05848 0.06 0.04 0.05 0.03 pool take/day 1gh nonce zhpool poolhub HVC 3,542.07 14.14 1,900.82 16.16 BTC 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.00 USD 5.68 0.02 3.05 0.03

Based on last 7 days performance and... block reward: HVC707 | mBTC/HVC: 0.00246 | USD/BTC: $652.1

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[NeuroticFish]

If anyone is still reading this - can I ask you an honest question? Are you a speculator or are you interested in seeing this coin succeed? If you're a speculator that's cool, I'm speculating on other coins I don't put any effort in to. But if you would like to help with this project, here are some things you could decide to do:

1. Tell me you're interested, but not sure how you could be helpful, either here or via PM

2. Take a look at the logo I posted further up the page - do you think this is an improvement, is it good enough for now? Would you like to take a swing at a new logo design or improving on the one I've posted - post or PM me, I'm happy to share all of the source files for the design work I paid for

3. Like to help out with the Facebook promo - let me know, I work full time, so I can only work on it outside of office hours, any help would be appreciated.

4. Like to suggest a new project to advance the coin? post it here or PM me, I'm all ears, and might be able to introduce you to other people who you could collaborate with.

I understand your frustration, really!

There are a very small number of coins I keep my eyes on and hope that they'll succeed. Dogecoin has a great community, Heavycoin has interesting algorithms, Bitmonero is quite new and as promising as Heavycoin was. For reasons I don't understand the first two are still not successful on the market. (3rd is too new, it's out of discussion.)

I keep a small amount of Dogecoins and an even smaller amount of Heavycoin. My hardware doesn't allow me to mine too much, I mine what is the best paid CPU coin of the moment and convert to these coins. I mined Heavycoin at early start, even after GPU mining was possible. But after a while the difficulty was too big for me.

I thought that the problem of Dogecoin is "no innovation" and the problem of Heavycoin is "no community". But as you see neither of them are doing great. And I just don't understand why.

[1]: Unfortunately I have 2 jobs, meaning free time is a luxury I don't have.
[2]: Done.
[3]: Done.
[4]: I wish I'd know. But I am completely out of ideas.

Good luck!

[mumbly]

Hey guys,

Ok, I'm back, I hope at least one of you missed me

Let's take a little bit of a state of the union here:


Heavycoin
Am I crazy, or is this one of the best coins on the market right now? Why are we so low on the exchanges?

- We've lost the positive sentiment of the crypto community - we brought this on ourselves

- There was a scare about the dev's missing, and we're hurting from that still - the truth is that Keccak is posting as much now as he did when the devs were thought missing - I talked to Keccak three days ago, he's still here, the IPO wasn't a scam, version 1.3 of the wallet is imminent.

- He won't ever be the face of the coin, I can be, for now, if you guys want me to . What he and Nogi are is one of the best coin dev teams working right now. We need to leverage that rather then ever expect them to be the marketers for this coin.

- I'll take responsibility for this coin until we reach a point where it's "we" and not just me - this is our second most important goal.


The thread
Guys, if I read this thread I would only see that the entire thing is a horror show - just a basket of "the coin is doomed" and negativity.

I have a guy on Facebook who asked a question about solo mining for Heavycoin, I knew the best answer was to send him here to ask questions to you guys directly, but I'm hesitating - my thought was "ah shit, they'll rip this kid apart" - That's probably a really bad sign.

I'm not suggesting that we go all Dogecoin, but could we please think about how you approach a problem - can we talk to each other like we actually like each other and have an interest in common?

It isn't even this thread - I think BitcoinTalk suffers this problem in general.

Bag holders
Anyone who is interested in this coin would probably be considered a bag holder by definition.

I don't think so - we have our bags and we see promise in this coin - we need to address the crypto community and let them know we are still here.

as fengkaitj noted - we know scrypt ASIC's are here and possibly x11 ASIC's might not be too far off - what we are suffering from is negative sentiment only, HVC won't feel the ASICs.

We have great algorithms, great devs, great forum members, and a truly great thread poster (that's me - FYI) what's not to love?

Twitter
I'm operating the @Heavycoinnews twitter account - please follow this account. We are up 60 new followers in the last week and a bit, which is such a good sign for us.

What would really help me on twitter are three things:

- Please follow @HeavycoinNews on twitter
- Please say something nice about Heavycoin so I can re-tweet you - I can't keep posting my own positive thoughts
- Search heavycoin on twitter, when you see someone saying Heavycoin is dead, just let them know that you are still in to it - I'll retweet you and this will help us build positive sentiment.

Heavycoin Website
p1nky - thanks for such a considered response - I'll continue our conversation via PM, but I will agree that nothing you say is factually inaccurate - I simply don't have access to website files, I have asked again tonight, if I don't hear anything I'll screen scrape the current site and put it under a new domain.

I'll figure out with Keccak the best way to handle the website, or otherwise start my own we can control. I don't think there's any resistance from the devs, just a process which isn't working well, we'll figure it out.


Cheers,
M

[TheRealSteve]

HEFTY1 got a mention in Crypto Mining Blog: Windows GPU Miners for the More Commonly Used Crypto Algorithms

[trainhappy]

is this coin dead?
 

[mumbly]

is this coin dead?
 

Nope - Heavycoin is still very much alive - tell your friends

Cheers,
M

[trainhappy]

is this coin dead?
 

Nope - Heavycoin is still very much alive - tell your friends

Cheers,
M

I dont think so.  nobody coming

[fengkaitj]

Hey guys,

Ok, I'm back, I hope at least one of you missed me

Let's take a little bit of a state of the union here:


Heavycoin
Am I crazy, or is this one of the best coins on the market right now? Why are we so low on the exchanges?

- We've lost the positive sentiment of the crypto community - we brought this on ourselves

- There was a scare about the dev's missing, and we're hurting from that still - the truth is that Keccak is posting as much now as he did when the devs were thought missing - I talked to Keccak three days ago, he's still here, the IPO wasn't a scam, version 1.3 of the wallet is imminent.

- He won't ever be the face of the coin, I can be, for now, if you guys want me to . What he and Nogi are is one of the best coin dev teams working right now. We need to leverage that rather then ever expect them to be the marketers for this coin.

- I'll take responsibility for this coin until we reach a point where it's "we" and not just me - this is our second most important goal.


The thread
Guys, if I read this thread I would only see that the entire thing is a horror show - just a basket of "the coin is doomed" and negativity.

I have a guy on Facebook who asked a question about solo mining for Heavycoin, I knew the best answer was to send him here to ask questions to you guys directly, but I'm hesitating - my thought was "ah shit, they'll rip this kid apart" - That's probably a really bad sign.

I'm not suggesting that we go all Dogecoin, but could we please think about how you approach a problem - can we talk to each other like we actually like each other and have an interest in common?

It isn't even this thread - I think BitcoinTalk suffers this problem in general.

Bag holders
Anyone who is interested in this coin would probably be considered a bag holder by definition.

I don't think so - we have our bags and we see promise in this coin - we need to address the crypto community and let them know we are still here.

as fengkaitj noted - we know scrypt ASIC's are here and possibly x11 ASIC's might not be too far off - what we are suffering from is negative sentiment only, HVC won't feel the ASICs.

We have great algorithms, great devs, great forum members, and a truly great thread poster (that's me - FYI) what's not to love?

Twitter
I'm operating the @Heavycoinnews twitter account - please follow this account. We are up 60 new followers in the last week and a bit, which is such a good sign for us.

What would really help me on twitter are three things:

- Please follow @HeavycoinNews on twitter
- Please say something nice about Heavycoin so I can re-tweet you - I can't keep posting my own positive thoughts
- Search heavycoin on twitter, when you see someone saying Heavycoin is dead, just let them know that you are still in to it - I'll retweet you and this will help us build positive sentiment.

Heavycoin Website
p1nky - thanks for such a considered response - I'll continue our conversation via PM, but I will agree that nothing you say is factually inaccurate - I simply don't have access to website files, I have asked again tonight, if I don't hear anything I'll screen scrape the current site and put it under a new domain.

I'll figure out with Keccak the best way to handle the website, or otherwise start my own we can control. I don't think there's any resistance from the devs, just a process which isn't working well, we'll figure it out.


Cheers,
M

 Anybody can feel any hope?

Glad to hear that version 1.3 of the wallet is imminent. If it's launched in
the limit phase, hope it's a mandatory update and the default vote would be
changed to less than ten. We've dumped too much coins to the market in very
short time.