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hi, I can only send one message per day to the forum, send me a personal email or jabber for communication please.

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February 21, 2018, 12:39:12 PM
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Want to sell my CAT license for 0.045 BTC, pm me if anyone is interested.
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February 21, 2018, 12:46:16 PM
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Has something changed in 5.2 with the Templates?

I can remember, there was a way to add, delete and modify a template.
Now, I have to duplicate an existing template and save it, ... then I need to update to my liking and how do I save it now? There is no button to save anymore.

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February 21, 2018, 01:16:37 PM
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Has something changed in 5.2 with the Templates?

I can remember, there was a way to add, delete and modify a template.
Now, I have to duplicate an existing template and save it, ... then I need to update to my liking and how do I save it now? There is no button to save anymore.

in 5.2 there are 3 kinds of algorithm.
- Default Algorithms (you can load them or duplicate them)
- Current Market Algorithms (these are all the algorithms that are running on Opens Markets, you can load and duplicate them)
- User Algorithms (your personal algorithms, you can load on a single market, on all markets, duplicate, overwrite, delete)

This is what you need to do :

- Change your algorithm from the Ping Pong Parameter Panel (as usual) and update it.
- Open the Template Manager, select the User Algorithms you wants to overwrite
- Choose option "Overwrite Current Running Algo over selected Template"

Then the current algorithm will overwrite the selected template.
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February 21, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
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Thanks, that worked!

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February 21, 2018, 02:57:28 PM
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Since days I try to correct this:

2018-02-21 22:30:06   BUY   0.081315   0.08019900   0.00000000   SELL   0.082087   0.00000071   0.00000001   0.00000001   -0.00000001   0.949   0.00006266
2018-02-21 22:27:46   BUY   0.081315   0.05025016   0.00000000   SELL   0.082087   0.00000004   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.949   0.00006267
2018-02-21 22:23:27   BUY   0.081266   0.03756808   0.00000000   SELL   0.082038   0.00000079   0.00000001   0.00000001   -0.00000001   0.949   0.00006267
2018-02-21 22:16:09   BUY   0.080877   0.17380300   0.00003506   SELL   0.081645   0.17336600   0.00003539   0.00007045   0.00006269   0.949   0.00006268
2018-02-21 20:47:20   BUY   0.080877   0.17380300   0.00000000   SELL   0.081443   0.00000076   0.00000001   0.00000001   -0.00000001   0.699   -0.00000001

My current settings are:
- Current Algo Parameters -------------------------
 Ping-Pong Mode : Normal
- General Attributes -
 Min % Guaranteed Gain : 0.950
 Always Create Pong Orders From Trades : true
 Avoid Immediate Price Match In Order Book : false
 Check To Not Buy/Sell To Yourself : true
- Skip Book Orders Attributes -
- OrderBook Filters -
 Filter : Skip BUY Orders With Qty < 0.075
 Filter : Skip SELL Orders With Qty < 0.075

- PriceLimit Attributes - NONE
- StopLoss Rules - NONE
- Buy/Sell Pool Parameters -
 Create Ping Orders Only If Market Spread Is > 0.000%
 Limit Buy Pool BTC Max Value To : 9999999.00000000
 Limit Sell Pool ETH Max Value To : 9999999.00000000
 Reuse 100.000 % of BTC Sell Pong Trade Into Buy Pool
 Reuse 100.000 % of ETH Buy Pong Trade Into Sell Pool
 Never Create Ping with ETH Qty > 10000000.00000000
 Never Create Ping with ETH Qty < 0.00000000
 Never Create Ping with BTC Qty < 0.00000000
 Add 0.000% ETH Amount into Sell Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add 0.000% BTC Amount into Buy Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add Fix 0.00000000 ETH Amount into Sell Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add Fix 0.00000000 BTC Amount into Buy Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Stop Ping Creation If Current Market BTC Sell Price is > 99999999.000000
 Stop Ping Creation If Current Market BTC Buy Price is < 0.000000
 Stop Ping Creation After 0 Ping-Pong Completed
 Stop Ping Creation If Number Of Active Orders is > 1000
 Stop Ping Creation if Total BTC Orders Amount is > 100000.00000000
 Stop Ping Creation if Total ETH Orders Qty is > 100000000.00000000
 Reset Sell Pool Value If Current ETH Amount is < 0.00000000
 Reset Buy Pool Value If Current BTC Amount is < 0.00000000
 If Needed, Adequate Pool New Ping Pool Order to Min Total (Qty*Price) : false
 If Pool Value > Available Amount then Adequate Pool Values to Available Amount : true
- Dust Elements Parameters -
 Ping Order is Dust if Current QTY is < : 0.00010000
 Ping Trade is Dust if QTY is < : 0.00010000
 Ping Trade is Dust if Trade Total < Min Total Market Order : true
 Dust Elements are : Put Into Buy/Sell Pool
- Running Options -
 Lookup Every 40 seconds
 Recalculation Every 3 Lookup
 Check Buy/Sell Pool Every 5 Lookup
 Check Ping Trade Pool Every 3 Lookup
 When Convert All to ETH Became Active, delete SELL PING : false
 When Convert All to BTC Became Active, delete BUY PING : false
 Run PingPong For 0 Minutes, And The Return to ETH : false
 Run PingPong For 0 Minutes, And The Return to BTC : false
- Advanced Options -
 Find Trades using : Current Order Qty VS Previous
 If Needed, Adequate Ping/Pong Order to Min Total (Qty*Price) : true
 If Calculated Sell Order Qty is > Available Qty Then Use All Available Qty : true
 Merge Equal Orders Into a New One : true
 Merge Equal Trades Into a New One : true
 Try to Stay Alone on top orders book : true
 Never Recalculate Order Qty : false
 Subtract Fees From Ping Trade Buy Qty Before Create Pong Sell : true
 Subtract Fees From Ping Trade Sell Total (Qty x Price) Before Create Pong Buy : true
 Reduce Order To Restore Qty by 1.000% Before a new creation Retry
 Consider 100.000% of Your Real BTC/ETH Balance
 Subtract All Buy/Sell Pool Current Values While Considering Available Amounts : false
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February 21, 2018, 04:55:19 PM
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explain me what the problem is.
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February 21, 2018, 07:42:42 PM
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Are there standard settings ready to run after a buy, or did the user have to set up everything?
All these parameters are quite complicated for people who don't know how to trade before.

Would you reccomend this newbies?

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February 22, 2018, 04:03:01 PM
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explain me what the problem is.

As you can see, the minimum trading amount is not taken. I start with an amount of 0.08019900 coins and trade back 0.00000071, which returns in a NEGATIVE gain. That, although I have set - OrderBook Filters -
 Filter : Skip BUY Orders With Qty < 0.075
 Filter : Skip SELL Orders With Qty < 0.075

Rechecking my trading history showed that 30% of the trades actually are negative!!! It was not obviously to me, since I understood the column GAIN incorrect. Therefore, I would appreciate if you could add a column "Net Gain", which would be calculated as Gain - TotalFee. There you can see faster, that you need to correct settings. I did a quick web page for that, showing the last 20 transactions only. You can see it at: https://tools.elmit.com/cat/catlast.php

I corrected the settings and now (currently) 19 out of the past 20 are positive.

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February 22, 2018, 04:06:50 PM
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Is anybody interested in an analyze tool, where you just throw in your current settings and get some information back, where to tweak?

I will try to add that on my web page: https://cat.elmit.com in the next days. Leave me a comment (web page, Telegram or here), so that I know if that effort is welcome, or just for myself.

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As you can see, the minimum trading amount is not taken. I start with an amount of 0.08019900 coins and trade back 0.00000071, which returns in a NEGATIVE gain. That, although I have set - OrderBook Filters -
 Filter : Skip BUY Orders With Qty < 0.075
 Filter : Skip SELL Orders With Qty < 0.075

Rechecking my trading history showed that 30% of the trades actually are negative!!! It was not obviously to me, since I understood the column GAIN incorrect. Therefore, I would appreciate if you could add a column "Net Gain", which would be calculated as Gain - TotalFee. There you can see faster, that you need to correct settings. I did a quick web page for that, showing the last 20 transactions only. You can see it at: https://tools.elmit.com/cat/catlast.php

I corrected the settings and now (currently) 19 out of the past 20 are positive.

FILTERS are not related in any way with your prices.
Filters are applied over the current order book before any calculation (like best price).

To avoid micro trades you must use the DUST OPTIONs

About the new column we could talk about that for 5.3 version.
Actually i'm still working on 5.2 fix that comes everyday due to changes in Exchanges rules  Undecided
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February 23, 2018, 04:38:42 AM
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As you can see, the minimum trading amount is not taken. I start with an amount of 0.08019900 coins and trade back 0.00000071, which returns in a NEGATIVE gain. That, although I have set - OrderBook Filters -
 Filter : Skip BUY Orders With Qty < 0.075
 Filter : Skip SELL Orders With Qty < 0.075

Rechecking my trading history showed that 30% of the trades actually are negative!!! It was not obviously to me, since I understood the column GAIN incorrect. Therefore, I would appreciate if you could add a column "Net Gain", which would be calculated as Gain - TotalFee. There you can see faster, that you need to correct settings. I did a quick web page for that, showing the last 20 transactions only. You can see it at: https://tools.elmit.com/cat/catlast.php

I corrected the settings and now (currently) 19 out of the past 20 are positive.

FILTERS are not related in any way with your prices.
Filters are applied over the current order book before any calculation (like best price).

To avoid micro trades you must use the DUST OPTIONs

About the new column we could talk about that for 5.3 version.
Actually i'm still working on 5.2 fix that comes everyday due to changes in Exchanges rules  Undecided


Sorry, I am not convinced from your answer!
1. where could a small amount of trade came, if not from the order book. So the filter SHOULD therefore cover it as well.
2. I followed your advice to use dust options.

Here is the new case:
- Current Algo Parameters -------------------------
 Ping-Pong Mode : Normal
- General Attributes -
 Min % Guaranteed Gain : 0.700
 Always Create Pong Orders From Trades : true
 Avoid Immediate Price Match In Order Book : false
 Check To Not Buy/Sell To Yourself : true
- Skip Book Orders Attributes -
- OrderBook Filters -
 Filter : Skip SELL Orders With Qty < 1
 Filter : Skip BUY Orders With Qty < 1
- PriceLimit Attributes - NONE
- StopLoss Rules - NONE
- Buy/Sell Pool Parameters -
 Create Ping Orders Only If Market Spread Is > 0.000%
 Limit Buy Pool BTC Max Value To : 9999999.00000000
 Limit Sell Pool ECN Max Value To : 9999999.00000000
 Reuse 100.000 % of BTC Sell Pong Trade Into Buy Pool
 Reuse 100.000 % of ECN Buy Pong Trade Into Sell Pool
 Never Create Ping with ECN Qty > 10000000.00000000
 Never Create Ping with ECN Qty < 0.00000000
 Never Create Ping with BTC Qty < 0.00000000
 Add 0.000% ECN Amount into Sell Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add 0.000% BTC Amount into Buy Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add Fix 0.00000000 ECN Amount into Sell Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add Fix 0.00000000 BTC Amount into Buy Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Stop Ping Creation If Current Market BTC Sell Price is > 99999999.00000000
 Stop Ping Creation If Current Market BTC Buy Price is < 0.00000000
 Stop Ping Creation After 0 Ping-Pong Completed
 Stop Ping Creation If Number Of Active Orders is > 1000
 Stop Ping Creation if Total BTC Orders Amount is > 100000.00000000
 Stop Ping Creation if Total ECN Orders Qty is > 100000000.00000000
 Reset Sell Pool Value If Current ECN Amount is < 0.00000000
 Reset Buy Pool Value If Current BTC Amount is < 0.00000000
 If Needed, Adequate Pool New Ping Pool Order to Min Total (Qty*Price) : false
 If Pool Value > Available Amount then Adequate Pool Values to Available Amount : true
- Dust Elements Parameters -
 Ping Order is Dust if Current QTY is < : 1.00000000
 Ping Trade is Dust if QTY is < : 1.00000000
 Ping Trade is Dust if Trade Total < Min Total Market Order : true
 Dust Elements are : Put Into Buy/Sell Pool
- Running Options -
 Lookup Every 40 seconds
 Recalculation Every 3 Lookup
 Check Buy/Sell Pool Every 5 Lookup
 Check Ping Trade Pool Every 3 Lookup
 When Convert All to ECN Became Active, delete SELL PING : false
 When Convert All to BTC Became Active, delete BUY PING : false
 Run PingPong For 0 Minutes, And The Return to ECN : false
 Run PingPong For 0 Minutes, And The Return to BTC : false
- Advanced Options -
 Find Trades using : Current Order Qty VS Previous
 If Needed, Adequate Ping/Pong Order to Min Total (Qty*Price) : true
 If Calculated Sell Order Qty is > Available Qty Then Use All Available Qty : true
 Merge Equal Orders Into a New One : true
 Merge Equal Trades Into a New One : true
 Try to Stay Alone on top orders book : true
 Never Recalculate Order Qty : false
 Subtract Fees From Ping Trade Buy Qty Before Create Pong Sell : true
 Subtract Fees From Ping Trade Sell Total (Qty x Price) Before Create Pong Buy : true
 Reduce Order To Restore Qty by 1.000% Before a new creation Retry
 Consider 100.000% of Your Real BTC/ECN Balance
 Subtract All Buy/Sell Pool Current Values While Considering Available Amounts : false
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With this settings, there should be no trade lower than the set dust.
Still I get: start sell of 14.98761426 ECN and buy back 0.0000295 (and 0.00000940) resulting in a Start fee of zero, a End fee of zero and a gain of zero. Means a net loss of the 0.00000295 at 2018-02-23 12:29:56 (and 2018-02-23 12:01:30)

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February 23, 2018, 07:17:19 AM
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I sell my lifetime C.A.T. CORE license for 0.05 BTC.
You can use it with the free API`s or you can use it with the other API Exchanges after you upgrade it for the price on the first post here.

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February 23, 2018, 04:23:17 PM
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Is anybody interested in an analyze tool, where you just throw in your current settings and get some information back, where to tweak?

I will try to add that on my web page: https://cat.elmit.com in the next days. Leave me a comment (web page, Telegram or here), so that I know if that effort is welcome, or just for myself.

That will be nice to see sach a tool  Wink
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February 26, 2018, 02:31:38 PM
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BUG in BINANCE tab:

Dust settings are not taken!

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February 26, 2018, 02:38:18 PM
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BUG in BINANCE tab:

Dust settings are not taken!

Dust settings doesn't depends by the exchange you're trading on.
So, how did you feel that dust option is not taken?
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February 26, 2018, 03:09:17 PM
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1. go to exchange tab Binance
2. open ANY market/any coin
3. click on Dust Elements and set it to anything you like
4. click the button Update Ping-Pong Parameters and believe it is taken ;-)

5. open the tab Current and find the lines Dust Elements parameters and read:

- Dust Elements Parameters -
 Ping Order is Dust if Current QTY is < : 0
 Ping Trade is Dust if QTY is < : 0
 Ping Trade is Dust if Trade Total < Min Total Market Order : true
 Dust Elements are : Put Into Buy/Sell Pool


The settings fro 3. are not there!!!

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February 26, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
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1. go to exchange tab Binance
2. open ANY market/any coin
3. click on Dust Elements and set it to anything you like
4. click the button Update Ping-Pong Parameters and believe it is taken ;-)

5. open the tab Current and find the lines Dust Elements parameters and read:

- Dust Elements Parameters -
 Ping Order is Dust if Current QTY is < : 0
 Ping Trade is Dust if QTY is < : 0
 Ping Trade is Dust if Trade Total < Min Total Market Order : true
 Dust Elements are : Put Into Buy/Sell Pool


The settings fro 3. are not there!!!

if you set values 100, are you able to read the update?
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February 26, 2018, 04:10:59 PM
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yes, with values above 1 I can see it.
The Min. QTY Unit of that coin is 1, I set dust with 2

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February 26, 2018, 04:19:14 PM
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yes, with values above 1 I can see it.
The Min. QTY Unit of that coin is 1, I set dust with 2

so you have the response  Wink
your parameter should be compatible with the min decimal amount of the markets.
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