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November 24, 2021, 03:49:23 AM
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During the last Twenty20I match in Mirpur, Bangladesh lost very narrowly to Pakistan and the series is won by them by 3-0. Mahmudullah, the Bangladesh captain, nearly defends eight runs in the final over. The ball should not have been a dead ball if Nawaz had not pulled off so late.
The match was full of excitement in the final over. Pakistani batsman could easily make 8 runs in the final over if they had the plan to take runs from each ball. But they were trying to hit boundaries. And they lost two wickets in second and third ball when they were looking for a six. Nawaz and Mahmudullah created drama in the last ball, but Pakistan won the game finally.

Pakistan have white wash the T20 series 3-0 against Bangladesh but there were few very close games and it was an entertainment to watch. I thought the matches would be one sided keeping in view of the previous form of bangladesh in T20 world cup but luckily they played well and made the matches entertain to watch.

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November 24, 2021, 04:43:15 AM
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During the last Twenty20I match in Mirpur, Bangladesh lost very narrowly to Pakistan and the series is won by them by 3-0. Mahmudullah, the Bangladesh captain, nearly defends eight runs in the final over. The ball should not have been a dead ball if Nawaz had not pulled off so late.
The match was full of excitement in the final over. Pakistani batsman could easily make 8 runs in the final over if they had the plan to take runs from each ball. But they were trying to hit boundaries. And they lost two wickets in second and third ball when they were looking for a six. Nawaz and Mahmudullah created drama in the last ball, but Pakistan won the game finally.

Pakistan have white wash the T20 series 3-0 against Bangladesh but there were few very close games and it was an entertainment to watch. I thought the matches would be one sided keeping in view of the previous form of bangladesh in T20 world cup but luckily they played well and made the matches entertain to watch.
Had a good chance to win, but the fact Bangladesh are struggling since the World T20. Last time Bangladesh won in a men's T20I, it was during the T20 World Cup against Papua New Guinea. Till now, Bangladesh has lost eight successive T20 matches, making it the most consistent team in losing T20 matches. Teams go through tough times. I think Bangladesh is going through its toughest time. I hope the country will rebound very soon. Congratulations to Pakistan.
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November 24, 2021, 02:21:19 PM
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Pakistan have white wash the T20 series 3-0 against Bangladesh but there were few very close games and it was an entertainment to watch. I thought the matches would be one sided keeping in view of the previous form of bangladesh in T20 world cup but luckily they played well and made the matches entertain to watch.
Had a good chance to win, but the fact Bangladesh are struggling since the World T20. Last time Bangladesh won in a men's T20I, it was during the T20 World Cup against Papua New Guinea. Till now, Bangladesh has lost eight successive T20 matches, making it the most consistent team in losing T20 matches. Teams go through tough times. I think Bangladesh is going through its toughest time. I hope the country will rebound very soon. Congratulations to Pakistan.

Bangladesh is the first country to play t20 and test cricket in my opinion. Even Afghanistan who faces a lot of hardship in their country is far better than Bangladesh. I think Bangladesh needs to make changes to their squad really soon or else it's gonna be like this for a long time.

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November 24, 2021, 02:42:11 PM
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Just to let you know. India is the only cricketing nation to win away series (t-20 & ODI) in NZ and whitewashing them in T-20 format at home. India won almost every limited overs bilateral series in SENA and virtually zero competition in Asia Cup( except Ban in 1 match) or against SL and Ban in bilateral.
Well said. So many people keep forgetting the fact that Kohli-Shastri combo actually helped India improve drastically in their overseas matches(Australia, England etc) and broke so many records along the way.
Agree, they do have tons of faults like selections, not listening anyone but under their leadership team has touched plenty of milestone.

Just one example is upcoming test series. Virat, Rohit, Bumrah, Shami, Pant and Rahul are not in the test squad but still India starting as a fav against Kiwis (Winning is another ball game).

No one could say that about any test playing nation even when they are playing in their own backyard.
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November 24, 2021, 11:59:36 PM
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Agree, they do have tons of faults like selections, not listening anyone but under their leadership team has touched plenty of milestone.

Just one example is upcoming test series. Virat, Rohit, Bumrah, Shami, Pant and Rahul are not in the test squad but still India starting as a fav against Kiwis (Winning is another ball game).

No one could say that about any test playing nation even when they are playing in their own backyard.
Looks like India is overconfident that they could win the match against New Zealand. They left out half the team and i am yet to look for the team playing the first match. The odds looks interesting and it looks like the odds makers neglected the fact that India is playing with a second string team and they might have given the odds for India playing in their home town which is not the same.
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November 25, 2021, 02:54:24 AM
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I think t10 is a good format and might have a really bright future for cricket because maybe then more and more teams will be interested in cricket. But this format will have a lot bigger impact on club cricket than international cricket in my opinion.

I have to disagree. T10 is not cricket. It is more like baseball. Some people still believe that the duration of T20 (3.5 hrs) is an issue and we should try to complete the matches in 1.5-2.0 hrs time, as the case with other sports such as football and field hockey. But the issue is that cricket matches can't be completed in such short duration, and if we try hard then the matches become meaningless. A lot of the fans are saying that T10 should be the format that should be used if cricket gains entry to Olympics. Here also I would disagree.

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November 25, 2021, 06:27:45 AM
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Agree, they do have tons of faults like selections, not listening anyone but under their leadership team has touched plenty of milestone.

Just one example is upcoming test series. Virat, Rohit, Bumrah, Shami, Pant and Rahul are not in the test squad but still India starting as a fav against Kiwis (Winning is another ball game).

No one could say that about any test playing nation even when they are playing in their own backyard.
Looks like India is overconfident that they could win the match against New Zealand. They left out half the team and i am yet to look for the team playing the first match. The odds looks interesting and it looks like the odds makers neglected the fact that India is playing with a second string team and they might have given the odds for India playing in their home town which is not the same.
Not sure about being over confidence but these players needed a break from the international cricket. They were playing all 3 formats and were on the road for countless months. Most of em will be back in the squad for the South Africa tour next month (Kohli is playing in the 2nd test i suppose). KL Rahul was available for the test series but he got injured during net practice.

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Agree, they do have tons of faults like selections, not listening anyone but under their leadership team has touched plenty of milestone.

Just one example is upcoming test series. Virat, Rohit, Bumrah, Shami, Pant and Rahul are not in the test squad but still India starting as a fav against Kiwis (Winning is another ball game).

No one could say that about any test playing nation even when they are playing in their own backyard.
Looks like India is overconfident that they could win the match against New Zealand. They left out half the team and i am yet to look for the team playing the first match. The odds looks interesting and it looks like the odds makers neglected the fact that India is playing with a second string team and they might have given the odds for India playing in their home town which is not the same.

It is a probability but I think most of them have played too much cricket this year and need some rest. Also, it is good that new players have been given a chance in this match. If they are able to play well then it will prove that they can play in different formats without any issue. Shreyas Iyer and Shubham Gill need to prove themselves this time.

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November 25, 2021, 07:02:49 AM
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I think t10 is a good format and might have a really bright future for cricket because maybe then more and more teams will be interested in cricket. But this format will have a lot bigger impact on club cricket than international cricket in my opinion.

I have to disagree. T10 is not cricket. It is more like baseball. Some people still believe that the duration of T20 (3.5 hrs) is an issue and we should try to complete the matches in 1.5-2.0 hrs time, as the case with other sports such as football and field hockey. But the issue is that cricket matches can't be completed in such short duration, and if we try hard then the matches become meaningless. A lot of the fans are saying that T10 should be the format that should be used if cricket gains entry to Olympics. Here also I would disagree.

@Sithara007 I‘ll back you on this as T20 format is perfect for entertainment, and T10 will be a mess because it’ll end before the entertainment even begins. Lastly you’re right even for Olympics T20 should be preferred over T10 format, and I hope they don’t mess cricket world by advocating T10 format over T20.
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It is a probability but I think most of them have played too much cricket this year and need some rest. Also, it is good that new players have been given a chance in this match. If they are able to play well then it will prove that they can play in different formats without any issue. Shreyas Iyer and Shubham Gill need to prove themselves this time.

IPL is adding two more teams which means we will have more matches in already heavy schedule ipl. I don't think players are going to have some rest in T20 leagues dominated year. India has done right thing by giving rest to king kohli in T20 series and first test against NZ. Lyer n Gill on day one have performed well.
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IPL is adding two more teams which means we will have more matches in already heavy schedule ipl. I don't think players are going to have some rest in T20 leagues dominated year. India has done right thing by giving rest to king kohli in T20 series and first test against NZ. Lyer n Gill on day one have performed well.
They want to add more time which means the tournaments will be extended and i do not expect the quality of the matches to improve by increasing the number of teams, but the opposite will happen in situation like this. What ever it is we will see the big drama show and since the team members keeps changing curious to see how will captain the side for the two new teams.
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IPL is adding two more teams which means we will have more matches in already heavy schedule ipl. I don't think players are going to have some rest in T20 leagues dominated year. India has done right thing by giving rest to king kohli in T20 series and first test against NZ. Lyer n Gill on day one have performed well.
They want to add more time which means the tournaments will be extended and i do not expect the quality of the matches to improve by increasing the number of teams, but the opposite will happen in situation like this. What ever it is we will see the big drama show and since the team members keeps changing curious to see how will captain the side for the two new teams.
Increasing the team number doesn't affect the quality of the tournament in any means, only the tournament schedule gets extended. Among the entire sports league played around IPL is among the top 10. This has come as a result of perfect organising. In between some issues arise and two teams weren't allowed to play the IPL. If it is a drama this could've never been this successful.

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Increasing the team number doesn't affect the quality of the tournament in any means, only the tournament schedule gets extended. Among the entire sports league played around IPL is among the top 10. This has come as a result of perfect organising. In between some issues arise and two teams weren't allowed to play the IPL. If it is a drama this could've never been this successful.

One suggestion would be to increase the threshold for the number of overseas players in the playing XI from 4 to 5. I have a suggestion that we don't have 70-80 quality players in India who can be evenly distributed to all the 10 franchises. And we saw this during the last IPL, when the Sunrisers Hyderabad struggled with their local contingent. Last year there were only 8 franchises. From 2022 onward, there will be 10. So I guess the shortage of local players will be felt more. The increase in overseas players can neutralize this.

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November 26, 2021, 09:11:53 AM
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IPL is adding two more teams which means we will have more matches in already heavy schedule ipl. I don't think players are going to have some rest in T20 leagues dominated year. India has done right thing by giving rest to king kohli in T20 series and first test against NZ. Lyer n Gill on day one have performed well.
They want to add more time which means the tournaments will be extended and i do not expect the quality of the matches to improve by increasing the number of teams, but the opposite will happen in situation like this. What ever it is we will see the big drama show and since the team members keeps changing curious to see how will captain the side for the two new teams.
Increasing the team number doesn't affect the quality of the tournament in any means, only the tournament schedule gets extended. Among the entire sports league played around IPL is among the top 10. This has come as a result of perfect organising. In between some issues arise and two teams weren't allowed to play the IPL. If it is a drama this could've never been this successful.

But, I feel the more a tournament gets extended its importance decreases. Now after these two teams the tournament would bypass 90 days schedule. The only benefit would be that we will be able to see new talents that were left out by the previous franchises. The longer IPL runs the more BCCI will earn that is the motto. It will also affect international schedules as there would be less space to accumulate international matches.

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November 26, 2021, 12:06:35 PM
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Increasing the team number doesn't affect the quality of the tournament in any means, only the tournament schedule gets extended. Among the entire sports league played around IPL is among the top 10. This has come as a result of perfect organising. In between some issues arise and two teams weren't allowed to play the IPL. If it is a drama this could've never been this successful.
One suggestion would be to increase the threshold for the number of overseas players in the playing XI from 4 to 5. I have a suggestion that we don't have 70-80 quality players in India who can be evenly distributed to all the 10 franchises. And we saw this during the last IPL, when the Sunrisers Hyderabad struggled with their local contingent. Last year there were only 8 franchises. From 2022 onward, there will be 10. So I guess the shortage of local players will be felt more. The increase in overseas players can neutralize this.

But increasing the number of overseas players maybe it can hamper the main reason why IPL is played. Which is finding more and more young talent. But teams will also aim for the win. And in that process, I think they will have to go for 5 overseas players in each team. As the teams will also be more in numbers this seems to be a reasonable and good change.

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November 26, 2021, 12:54:20 PM
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But, I feel the more a tournament gets extended its importance decreases. Now after these two teams the tournament would bypass 90 days schedule. The only benefit would be that we will be able to see new talents that were left out by the previous franchises. The longer IPL runs the more BCCI will earn that is the motto. It will also affect international schedules as there would be less space to accumulate international matches.

More then 90 days of year already gone to IPL, which means only 9 months are left for International cricket and other T20 leagues. BCCI is adding more team since they wanna add more to there profits. I don't think ipl will provide any new talent to BCCI as talented players come from test and odi.

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November 26, 2021, 01:09:58 PM
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Increasing the team number doesn't affect the quality of the tournament in any means, only the tournament schedule gets extended. Among the entire sports league played around IPL is among the top 10. This has come as a result of perfect organising. In between some issues arise and two teams weren't allowed to play the IPL. If it is a drama this could've never been this successful.
But, I feel the more a tournament gets extended its importance decreases. Now after these two teams the tournament would bypass 90 days schedule. The only benefit would be that we will be able to see new talents that were left out by the previous franchises. The longer IPL runs the more BCCI will earn that is the motto. It will also affect international schedules as there would be less space to accumulate international matches.

We also know that IPL has a really big effect on ICC itself. And BCCI gets really huge amount of money from IPL. But India does utilize the IPL really well to find some young talents and later make them world-class players. A lot of cricketers in the Indian national team have come from IPL. But with 10 teams, it is going to take really long for IPL to end this time. The international cricket schedule will also be affected by this as you said.

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November 26, 2021, 05:54:30 PM
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We also know that IPL has a really big effect on ICC itself. And BCCI gets really huge amount of money from IPL. But India does utilize the IPL really well to find some young talents and later make them world-class players. A lot of cricketers in the Indian national team have come from IPL. But with 10 teams, it is going to take really long for IPL to end this time. The international cricket schedule will also be affected by this as you said.

The irony is that no one can stop or question BCCI from extending the schedule of IPL. I don't know which world class players bcci has found though IPL. All good players in Indian side have come through there domestic cricket. If ipl has the capacity to produce world class players, India won't loss that badly in recent WC.

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November 27, 2021, 03:00:53 AM
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The irony is that no one can stop or question BCCI from extending the schedule of IPL. I don't know which world class players bcci has found though IPL. All good players in Indian side have come through there domestic cricket. If ipl has the capacity to produce world class players, India won't loss that badly in recent WC.

This was inevitable. Cricket also needs to move from country-based tournaments to franchise leagues with teams comprising players from multiple countries. Look at football. Leagues such as UEFA Champions League, English Premier League, La Liga and Serie A are much more popular when compared to the international tournaments. FIFA tournaments still have a place, but they don't engage in useless bilateral tours very often. I would like cricket to move in the same direction, and this will result in more revenues, more T20 matches and will avoid lop sided matches.

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November 27, 2021, 09:43:18 AM
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This was inevitable. Cricket also needs to move from country-based tournaments to franchise leagues with teams comprising players from multiple countries. Look at football. Leagues such as UEFA Champions League, English Premier League, La Liga and Serie A are much more popular when compared to the international tournaments. FIFA tournaments still have a place, but they don't engage in useless bilateral tours very often. I would like cricket to move in the same direction, and this will result in more revenues, more T20 matches and will avoid lop sided matches.

Football is much more popular and established game then cricket. FIFA is as big as UN, while cricket is not popular in the whole world. There are only 10 test playing countries. Rest of the countries have team just for formality. So at the moment we cant compare cricket with football. Let the cricket spread to rest of the world before we establish such model in cricket.

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