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December 04, 2021, 09:22:36 PM
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The T10 scene is completely dominated by West Indian players. Deccan Gladiators made a massive 159/0 in 10 overs. And not just Andre Russell, but Tom Kohler-Cadmore also contributed to the total. Ravi Rampaul and Dwayne Bravo are regarded by many as the best bowlers in T10 format. And these two went for 70 runs from their combined 4 overs. It was a completely one-sided match. For Delhi Bulls, only Chandrapaul Hemraj was able to make a score of more than 15. Tymal Mills had figures of 2-0-4-2 in a T10 match. Can you believe that? 
I watch very few matches of this format and now having feeling this format is surely going to be last nail in ODI coffin because this format is more destructive and having more attraction for many countries because now we need only 2 or 3 hours for a match which is very suitable for them as entertainment purpose and specially peoples from Sub-Continent can do much better for this in European and Middle East countries.

But, sadly I think we have no approval from ICC about this format but now after some good contribution we will have some better view about this and many other countries those have full membership in ICC will try this format. England is working on 100, but they need to think about this, which could be more profitable.

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December 05, 2021, 06:04:52 AM
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The T10 scene is completely dominated by West Indian players. Deccan Gladiators made a massive 159/0 in 10 overs. And not just Andre Russell, but Tom Kohler-Cadmore also contributed to the total. Ravi Rampaul and Dwayne Bravo are regarded by many as the best bowlers in T10 format. And these two went for 70 runs from their combined 4 overs. It was a completely one-sided match. For Delhi Bulls, only Chandrapaul Hemraj was able to make a score of more than 15. Tymal Mills had figures of 2-0-4-2 in a T10 match. Can you believe that? 

Yes Indies players are doing very well in leagues but same is not seen in there national team which is a big concern. Tymal Mills performance will defiantly help him getting sport in English team. T10 is biggest league after IPL IMO, you see players and teams from all around the world. Russell and Tom were unstoppable yesterday thats y Ravi and Bravo were helpless.

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December 05, 2021, 01:07:56 PM
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Yes Indies players are doing very well in leagues but same is not seen in there national team which is a big concern. Tymal Mills performance will defiantly help him getting sport in English team. T10 is biggest league after IPL IMO, you see players and teams from all around the world. Russell and Tom were unstoppable yesterday thats y Ravi and Bravo were helpless.

Ravi Rampaul had some race/religion related issues with the WICB selectors many years ago (similar to what happened with Shivnarine Chanderpaul) and he was never again considered for selection in the national team. At 37 years, now it is too late for him to make a comeback to the senior side. And the controversies with selection is also one of the reasons why the West Indies team is in such a pathetic state now. BTW, it won't be easy for Tymal Mills to get selection. There is simply no vacancy within the England team.

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December 05, 2021, 02:44:31 PM
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Ravi Rampaul had some race/religion related issues with the WICB selectors many years ago (similar to what happened with Shivnarine Chanderpaul) and he was never again considered for selection in the national team. At 37 years, now it is too late for him to make a comeback to the senior side. And the controversies with selection is also one of the reasons why the West Indies team is in such a pathetic state now. BTW, it won't be easy for Tymal Mills to get selection. There is simply no vacancy within the England team.

Rampaul was called by WI board in recent T20 WC first time since 2015. Individual performance of WI players in different leagues is out standing but as a team they fail to play quality cricket. WI selection is last few years is really controversial, WI board is rightly responsible for destruction of its team.

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December 05, 2021, 04:35:25 PM
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Yes Indies players are doing very well in leagues but same is not seen in there national team which is a big concern. Tymal Mills performance will defiantly help him getting sport in English team. T10 is biggest league after IPL IMO, you see players and teams from all around the world. Russell and Tom were unstoppable yesterday thats y Ravi and Bravo were helpless.

Ravi Rampaul had some race/religion related issues with the WICB selectors many years ago (similar to what happened with Shivnarine Chanderpaul) and he was never again considered for selection in the national team. At 37 years, now it is too late for him to make a comeback to the senior side. And the controversies with selection is also one of the reasons why the West Indies team is in such a pathetic state now. BTW, it won't be easy for Tymal Mills to get selection. There is simply no vacancy within the England team.

I really think that the cricket board selectors should do a better job and I say that to almost all the cricket boards and especially those who are not doing their job right. And this hurts me to say but the West Indies team could have been a lot better if they did not face certain problems from their own cricket board. We can see this problem happening in also cricket boards like Zimbabwe and South Africa and also in recent times with the Bangladesh cricket board.

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December 06, 2021, 06:28:05 AM
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I really think that the cricket board selectors should do a better job and I say that to almost all the cricket boards and especially those who are not doing their job right. And this hurts me to say but the West Indies team could have been a lot better if they did not face certain problems from their own cricket board. We can see this problem happening in also cricket boards like Zimbabwe and South Africa and also in recent times with the Bangladesh cricket board.
West Indian biggest issue is they are grouped of seven independent countries and all countries are having their own quota which is concern and sadly no one country able to have separate cricket board and his own team, so this is main dead point for them, and they are losing some very good and talented players and now sinking down day by day from all three formats surely in near future they will be able to have just good matches against teams like Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Ireland because Afghanistan is also going to be very good team in next few years, and they will be not able to compete with them.

And Issues in Zimbabwe and South Africa are completely different from here because here mostly white guys are better in quality and blacks still struggling to adopt this all with some good love for soccer and rugby.

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December 06, 2021, 09:10:00 AM
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Ravi Rampaul had some race/religion related issues with the WICB selectors many years ago (similar to what happened with Shivnarine Chanderpaul) and he was never again considered for selection in the national team. At 37 years, now it is too late for him to make a comeback to the senior side. And the controversies with selection is also one of the reasons why the West Indies team is in such a pathetic state now. BTW, it won't be easy for Tymal Mills to get selection. There is simply no vacancy within the England team.

Rampaul was called by WI board in recent T20 WC first time since 2015. Individual performance of WI players in different leagues is out standing but as a team they fail to play quality cricket. WI selection is last few years is really controversial, WI board is rightly responsible for destruction of its team.
Yes dont know why they are failing as a team, they have the best t20 batsman bowlers and all rounders who perform very good in various leagues around the world but not able to perform as a team. Also I do not understand their team selection. Why sunil narine not playing for west indies any more which I do not get. He is one of the best players in the world but does not play international matches.
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December 06, 2021, 04:38:35 PM
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A very surprised time we have two leagues around the cricket and no one watching and having any talk about this yesterday BBL2021 started with very good match between SS vs MS with SS done very healthy score in their first inning and give target of 214 to win but sadly Ms all bowled out with just score of 61 within just 11.1 overs and two batsmen reach in double figure.
Today we have second match between BH vs St which won by ST with very easily as 141 targets was never been threat for them. After a few days we have The Ashes, so I have been feeling no one will be serious about this as The Ashes fever will work around the cricket globe.

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December 06, 2021, 05:19:01 PM
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A very surprised time we have two leagues around the cricket and no one watching and having any talk about this yesterday BBL2021 started with very good match between SS vs MS with SS done very healthy score in their first inning and give target of 214 to win but sadly Ms all bowled out with just score of 61 within just 11.1 overs and two batsmen reach in double figure.
Today we have second match between BH vs St which won by ST with very easily as 141 targets was never been threat for them. After a few days we have The Ashes, so I have been feeling no one will be serious about this as The Ashes fever will work around the cricket globe.
Ashes is one among the big league played. In cricketing it has got more importance as it is the league that is being played since 1882. The last season of Ashes was played in England. After the 1972 Ashes series 2019 series ended in a draw. This time this will surely increase more expectation among the cricket enthusiasts. Watching a test match is really nice when the two teams are equally strong.
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December 06, 2021, 06:17:21 PM
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A very surprised time we have two leagues around the cricket and no one watching and having any talk about this yesterday BBL2021 started with very good match between SS vs MS with SS done very healthy score in their first inning and give target of 214 to win but sadly Ms all bowled out with just score of 61 within just 11.1 overs and two batsmen reach in double figure.
Today we have second match between BH vs St which won by ST with very easily as 141 targets was never been threat for them. After a few days we have The Ashes, so I have been feeling no one will be serious about this as The Ashes fever will work around the cricket globe.
Ashes is one among the big league played. In cricketing it has got more importance as it is the league that is being played since 1882. The last season of Ashes was played in England. After the 1972 Ashes series 2019 series ended in a draw. This time this will surely increase more expectation among the cricket enthusiasts. Watching a test match is really nice when the two teams are equally strong.

I have always enjoyed seeing Ashes test matches. because most of the time the matches are really exciting, and sometimes we actually forget that there is a five-day test match going on because of the tension and the situation in the field. Ashes deliver some real quality cricket that we generally don't get to see in other test matches. And often these matches are really close in terms of results. All the thing that goes on in the field like the fast bowlers creating footmarks and the spinners using it, the batsman getting deceived by short balls being followed by a Yorker.

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December 06, 2021, 06:27:33 PM
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I really think that the cricket board selectors should do a better job and I say that to almost all the cricket boards and especially those who are not doing their job right. And this hurts me to say but the West Indies team could have been a lot better if they did not face certain problems from their own cricket board. We can see this problem happening in also cricket boards like Zimbabwe and South Africa and also in recent times with the Bangladesh cricket board.
West Indian biggest issue is they are grouped of seven independent countries and all countries are having their own quota which is concern and sadly no one country able to have separate cricket board and his own team, so this is main dead point for them, and they are losing some very good and talented players and now sinking down day by day from all three formats surely in near future they will be able to have just good matches against teams like Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Ireland because Afghanistan is also going to be very good team in next few years, and they will be not able to compete with them.

And Issues in Zimbabwe and South Africa are completely different from here because here mostly white guys are better in quality and blacks still struggling to adopt this all with some good love for soccer and rugby.

I really don't know about White guys being better in cricket and black guys being better in football and rugby. Certainly not when I see Makhaya Ntini and Ronwen Williams. So I think that the black guy white guy thing is not totally right. But they do have some problems surrounding this issue. And West Indies also might not seem to be in these problems but I don't think they are completely out of it altogether.

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December 06, 2021, 08:42:38 PM
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I really don't know about White guys being better in cricket and black guys being better in football and rugby. Certainly not when I see Makhaya Ntini and Ronwen Williams. So I think that the black guy white guy thing is not totally right. But they do have some problems surrounding this issue. And West Indies also might not seem to be in these problems but I don't think they are completely out of it altogether.
Recently as we have some high rise in money and cricket is doing some better globally we are having more problems and different issues which were never been near to this game. Now every one want better share and hi salary with some better luxury and this is creating more issues.

Like IPL want complete hold and no other country give them challenge just because of this they are giving good funds to relative boards and having some benefits from them but sadly their view is not neutral they are damaging one country and giving benefits others so same case happening in boards in few countries they want to take benefits for their own communities and better place, but quality is not good enough for this all.
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December 06, 2021, 11:44:11 PM
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West Indian biggest issue is they are grouped of seven independent countries and all countries are having their own quota which is concern and sadly no one country able to have separate cricket board and his own team, so this is main dead point for them, and they are losing some very good and talented players and now sinking down day by day from all three formats surely in near future they will be able to have just good matches against teams like Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Ireland because Afghanistan is also going to be very good team in next few years, and they will be not able to compete with them.

And Issues in Zimbabwe and South Africa are completely different from here because here mostly white guys are better in quality and blacks still struggling to adopt this all with some good love for soccer and rugby.
There is nothing as white and black guy thing with cricket. If I'm not wrong this is also a kind of game that is being played by the cricket board authorities. In my words, this is kind of divide and rule pattern. It is the only way with which a group can be brought together. This issue can be seen much on Zimbabwe and South Africa. With West Indies the board seems to be corrupt and that causes players unpaid with their salaries. More players started to concentrate on IPL to overcome those issues.

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I really don't know about White guys being better in cricket and black guys being better in football and rugby. Certainly not when I see Makhaya Ntini and Ronwen Williams. So I think that the black guy white guy thing is not totally right. But they do have some problems surrounding this issue. And West Indies also might not seem to be in these problems but I don't think they are completely out of it altogether.

If blacks are inferior in cricket, then how come the West Indies team dominated test cricket scene for many decades? The issue in South Africa and Zimbabwe is different. Cricket is being seen as a relic of colonial hangover, and blacks are not interested in this sport as much as the whites. This is the real reason why the cricket board came up with the quotas. Have you ever thought why they don't need quota for the South African football team? West Indies is entirely another issue. It is a mix of regionalism and racism which is ruining the game there.

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December 07, 2021, 06:12:30 PM
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I really don't know about White guys being better in cricket and black guys being better in football and rugby. Certainly not when I see Makhaya Ntini and Ronwen Williams. So I think that the black guy white guy thing is not totally right. But they do have some problems surrounding this issue. And West Indies also might not seem to be in these problems but I don't think they are completely out of it altogether.
If blacks are inferior in cricket, then how come the West Indies team dominated test cricket scene for many decades? The issue in South Africa and Zimbabwe is different. Cricket is being seen as a relic of colonial hangover, and blacks are not interested in this sport as much as the whites. This is the real reason why the cricket board came up with the quotas. Have you ever thought why they don't need quota for the South African football team? West Indies is entirely another issue. It is a mix of regionalism and racism which is ruining the game there.

It is absolute rubbish that black people cannot play cricket. Well, we did not say this when Brian Lara was in the pitch. I think that it is OK for people to love certain sports more than another and there is no need to force someone to like something. And it is not absolutely necessary that you have to play a black person in your team or else the team would not be great. I think anyone who says this is capping. And if it's not a cap then and they must have lost their mind.

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I really don't know about White guys being better in cricket and black guys being better in football and rugby. Certainly not when I see Makhaya Ntini and Ronwen Williams. So I think that the black guy white guy thing is not totally right. But they do have some problems surrounding this issue. And West Indies also might not seem to be in these problems but I don't think they are completely out of it altogether.
Recently as we have some high rise in money and cricket is doing some better globally we are having more problems and different issues which were never been near to this game. Now every one want better share and hi salary with some better luxury and this is creating more issues.

Like IPL want complete hold and no other country give them challenge just because of this they are giving good funds to relative boards and having some benefits from them but sadly their view is not neutral they are damaging one country and giving benefits others so same case happening in boards in few countries they want to take benefits for their own communities and better place, but quality is not good enough for this all.

^ IPL was the first cricket tournament that happened outside of the international selected teams and as we all know that most of the popular and great players play in IPL, this tournament gets a lot of exposure. The problem arises when the tournament in other countries doesn't get as much exposure as this. Because it is not like football where almost all of the teams have lots of support and lots of people come into the stadium to see them play and the revenue is good. But in cricket, only IPL can generate that kind of revenue, so the money is also with BCCI more than any other cricket board. I think the other countries need to popularize their tournaments too so that they can also make some more money and have a stable condition in cricket.

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Anyone who thinks that people of a certain color are better in one sport when compared to other need to get their heads checked immediately because color doesn't matter in any kind of sport which is common sense.

Like IPL want complete hold and no other country give them challenge just because of this they are giving good funds to relative boards and having some benefits from them but sadly their view is not neutral they are damaging one country and giving benefits others.
I disagree. IPL earned its status as the most popular Cricket tournament currently which is why other boards need to learn from the BCCI in this case.

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December 07, 2021, 07:43:45 PM
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If blacks are inferior in cricket, then how come the West Indies team dominated test cricket scene for many decades? The issue in South Africa and Zimbabwe is different. Cricket is being seen as a relic of colonial hangover, and blacks are not interested in this sport as much as the whites. This is the real reason why the cricket board came up with the quotas. Have you ever thought why they don't need quota for the South African football team?
Not disagreeing with your "Relic of colonial" reasoning but i feel i should add one more important point.

There is also privileged-non privileged narrative deeply ingrained in the South African society, which dominates literally every single argument as far as their cricketing quota system goes.

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December 07, 2021, 11:09:35 PM
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I really don't know about White guys being better in cricket and black guys being better in football and rugby. Certainly not when I see Makhaya Ntini and Ronwen Williams. So I think that the black guy white guy thing is not totally right. But they do have some problems surrounding this issue. And West Indies also might not seem to be in these problems but I don't think they are completely out of it altogether.
If blacks are inferior in cricket, then how come the West Indies team dominated test cricket scene for many decades? The issue in South Africa and Zimbabwe is different. Cricket is being seen as a relic of colonial hangover, and blacks are not interested in this sport as much as the whites. This is the real reason why the cricket board came up with the quotas. Have you ever thought why they don't need quota for the South African football team? West Indies is entirely another issue. It is a mix of regionalism and racism which is ruining the game there.

It is absolute rubbish that black people cannot play cricket. Well, we did not say this when Brian Lara was in the pitch. I think that it is OK for people to love certain sports more than another and there is no need to force someone to like something. And it is not absolutely necessary that you have to play a black person in your team or else the team would not be great. I think anyone who says this is capping. And if it's not a cap then and they must have lost their mind.

From where did you come our with the synopsis that only Whites can play cricket? There are legends in cricket who are black and if that was the case then these legends would not have existed. Anyone who has skills can be trained from an early age can play any kind of sports. There are so many examples out there you need to just see them.

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December 08, 2021, 10:04:17 AM
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I really don't know about White guys being better in cricket and black guys being better in football and rugby. Certainly not when I see Makhaya Ntini and Ronwen Williams. So I think that the black guy white guy thing is not totally right. But they do have some problems surrounding this issue. And West Indies also might not seem to be in these problems but I don't think they are completely out of it altogether.
If blacks are inferior in cricket, then how come the West Indies team dominated test cricket scene for many decades? The issue in South Africa and Zimbabwe is different. Cricket is being seen as a relic of colonial hangover, and blacks are not interested in this sport as much as the whites. This is the real reason why the cricket board came up with the quotas. Have you ever thought why they don't need quota for the South African football team? West Indies is entirely another issue. It is a mix of regionalism and racism which is ruining the game there.

It is absolute rubbish that black people cannot play cricket. Well, we did not say this when Brian Lara was in the pitch. I think that it is OK for people to love certain sports more than another and there is no need to force someone to like something. And it is not absolutely necessary that you have to play a black person in your team or else the team would not be great. I think anyone who says this is capping. And if it's not a cap then and they must have lost their mind.

From where did you come our with the synopsis that only Whites can play cricket? There are legends in cricket who are black and if that was the case then these legends would not have existed. Anyone who has skills can be trained from an early age can play any kind of sports. There are so many examples out there you need to just see them.

I feel Racism has no place in any sports and not even on this forum, because I support sportsmen based on their performances and not on their colour. Also I don’t even remember anyone ever saying look that white guy scored or that black guy took a wicket, so this is absolute garbage theory and we shouldn’t even be entertaining such theories.
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