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April 16, 2021, 04:59:21 PM
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Real Madrid with all their experiences in CL, I think they have better chance than Chelsea. Chelsea is good enough in the last few months after they got the manager but I do not think that they are strong enough to beat Real Madrid. Of course it does not mean that Chelsea wont be able to beat Real Madrid, they still have the chance but Real Madrid is having greater chance.

well in my opinion it is not really said!
they have experience, but chelsea is neither a stupid nor a young team
Chelsea have so much firepower and can truly surprise us Smiley

I think they have the same chances, i mean Real Madrid and Chelsea

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April 16, 2021, 06:06:34 PM
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Chelsea is a dark horse in this four grands , but they have very real chances of reaching the final, because Real Madrid does not look very confident this season, their game is not stable, there are periodic recessions, and Chelsea can take advantage of this. I would like Chelsea to make it to the final.
Let's be real guys (pun intended), there is no way Chelsea could win. First of all you guys are saying Tuchel is a great manager and he is the reason why Chelsea is different now, but the reality is that Zidane could be the best manager in all of active managers, you can argue about Klopp or Pep as well (I have removed Mourinho long time ago from my list) but the reality is that Zidane is still up there no matter who you like, this guy won 3 champions league in a row, I do not remember when was the last time that happened.

Real Madrid has the better roster as well, Chelsea is not that great and even though they have managed to come this far, they had some lucky draws as well as playing well but not playing THAT well enough to beat Real. I think an upset is possible in any matchup, teams can always beat each other and there is no doubt over that, but CLEAR favorites here are the Real Madrid for sure.

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April 16, 2021, 09:43:21 PM
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Indeed. Even if Chelsea somehow reach the final, I still think they will have almost none chances to win against PSG or CITY but the run of Chelsea must be appreciated because few of us really thought that they will come to play the semi-finals for a chance in the final.

On the other side, Real Madrid knows they are not the favorite in both LaLiga and UCL but they keep doing the job in both of them so I will put Real with the 3rd chance to win followed by City on 2nd and my favorite to win being PSG.

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April 17, 2021, 02:47:20 AM
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In other words, even if Real Madrid are not in their best form, if they reach the final, they are always the main candidate to win the competition.

Yes, because they are the team that won the most UCL championships. 13 times they won 3 times with Zidane. Seven years with Madrid Zidane has given 9 titles, this is extraordinary. They have experience, I think they deserve to be potential champions. As for the semifinals Chelsea was great, under Tuchel they were very different they got stronger. I think it's going to be really exciting, the first leg takes place in Spain. In this  first leg Madrid must win by a lot of goals to secure a chance to the Final.

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April 17, 2021, 06:49:16 AM
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It's not underestimating, Chelsea under Tuchel is proving to be a really good team. We're simply playing the odds, and I feel Chelsea's the only team out of the 4 remaining that actually has really small chances of claiming the trophy.

A combination of quality and experience is much higher in other teams, it's football and anything is possible (especially in this crazy covid-effected season) but I'd be really surprised if Chelsea reached the final. And if they did, they'd be heavy outsiders to both City or PSG.

Chelsea is a dark horse in this four grands , but they have very real chances of reaching the final, because Real Madrid does not look very confident this season, their game is not stable, there are periodic recessions, and Chelsea can take advantage of this. I would like Chelsea to make it to the final.

Real Madrid with all their experiences in CL, I think they have better chance than Chelsea. Chelsea is good enough in the last few months after they got the manager but I do not think that they are strong enough to beat Real Madrid. Of course it does not mean that Chelsea wont be able to beat Real Madrid, they still have the chance but Real Madrid is having greater chance.

It could be exactly this public perception that Chelsea has no chance which in the end gives them the edge. They are very strong defensively, could definitely keep it 0:0 till late game and then score the lucky punch.

You all remember Bayern Chelsea in the final in Germany? 17:1 corners, but who won it in the end? One lucky punch Drogba, and in the penalty shootout:

Chelsea!

Very possible if you ask me.

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April 17, 2021, 12:40:17 PM
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It could be exactly this public perception that Chelsea has no chance which in the end gives them the edge. They are very strong defensively, could definitely keep it 0:0 till late game and then score the lucky punch.

You all remember Bayern Chelsea in the final in Germany? 17:1 corners, but who won it in the end? One lucky punch Drogba, and in the penalty shootout:

Chelsea!

Very possible if you ask me.

Chelsea were a much stronger team back then, they had elite players all over the pitch. Now not so much in my opinion. I think the champion will come from the other semi final, Man City or PSG.

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April 17, 2021, 01:07:38 PM
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It could be exactly this public perception that Chelsea has no chance which in the end gives them the edge. They are very strong defensively, could definitely keep it 0:0 till late game and then score the lucky punch.

You all remember Bayern Chelsea in the final in Germany? 17:1 corners, but who won it in the end? One lucky punch Drogba, and in the penalty shootout:

Chelsea!

Very possible if you ask me.
Chelsea were a much stronger team back then, they had elite players all over the pitch. Now not so much in my opinion. I think the champion will come from the other semi final, Man City or PSG.

Now in my opinion, Chelsea is not as good as when they had Didier Drogba, so I doubt Chelsea can reach the final. Chelsea does need an attacker
like Drogba who has excellent finishing, in contrast to Werner who needs lots of opportunities to score goals. I agree that the possibility of winning
the Champions League this season is either Manchester City or PSG.

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April 17, 2021, 03:27:49 PM
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Real Madrid has experience in the Champions League, but unfortunately, soon there will be no players left to enter the field. Mendy was injured. Today, there were only 16 players to play with Getafe. Everyone else is injured. The rest, especially Cross and Modrid, are accumulating tired and this can cause injury. And ahead of the matches every 3-4 days.
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April 17, 2021, 04:42:35 PM
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Real Madrid has experience in the Champions League, but unfortunately, soon there will be no players left to enter the field. Mendy was injured. Today, there were only 16 players to play with Getafe. Everyone else is injured. The rest, especially Cross and Modrid, are accumulating tired and this can cause injury. And ahead of the matches every 3-4 days.

But in a way this is a problem that ends up affecting all the teams in the competition.

Chelsea must continue to work to maintain fifth place, if they do not risk not going to the European competitions in the next season.
PSG may not be concerned about winning their league, but Monaco are trying to reach second place. So, you have to keep a good pace so you don't lose your place and don't go to the Champions next season.
Real Madrid are in second, very close to the first and with Barcelona just behind. So, you have to keep the pace, since it can be easily overtaken by opponents.
City, on the other hand, has about 10 points ahead (with one more game), and for that reason it has practically the championship won. Just do a balanced management.

Of the four finalists, City has the best conditions to be fully focused on the Champions League.

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April 17, 2021, 05:07:03 PM
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Yeah, it is very important to be aware of this situation. None of these four teams are weak. And it is for sure that all of them will be very willing to reach the final and win the title. People can see Chelsea being the most disadvantageous team here but they may even win the CL and surprise everyone.
One might think Chelsea are weak because they have been inconsistent since the start of the season in the Premier League. But since Tuchel arrived, thing have changed and Chelsea have continued to have a lot of positive result until they enter the semifinal of today's champion league. Real Madrid are probably the more favored because they are coached by someone who has won the trophy 3 time in a row. But anything is still possible. I hope Chelsea can provide an equal fight with Real Madrid.

I hope so too. Chelsea have already proved themselves about what they are capable of. Real Madrid will be a much more tougher opponent for them compared to Porto. They should be very well-prepared for this draw. They have the power to eliminate Real Madrid too. They just need to believe in themselves.

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Now in my opinion, Chelsea is not as good as when they had Didier Drogba, so I doubt Chelsea can reach the final. Chelsea does need an attacker
like Drogba who has excellent finishing, in contrast to Werner who needs lots of opportunities to score goals. I agree that the possibility of winning
the Champions League this season is either Manchester City or PSG.
Of the remaining 4 team, only Chelsea is the worst in the domestic league. Now Chelsea is in the 5th position in the premier league and there is no hope of getting the premier league title this year.
This incident reminds me of the 2011-2012 competition year, at that time Chelsea performance was very destroyed in the premier league, but they made it to the UCL final, and finally came out to be a champion.
I'm not sure Chelsea can repeat history in 2011-2012, because Chelsea players are not consistent in maintaining their defensive lines and finishing their attacker are also very bad, especially the opponents they faced in the semifinals of a team like Real Madrid.

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It could be exactly this public perception that Chelsea has no chance which in the end gives them the edge. They are very strong defensively, could definitely keep it 0:0 till late game and then score the lucky punch.

You all remember Bayern Chelsea in the final in Germany? 17:1 corners, but who won it in the end? One lucky punch Drogba, and in the penalty shootout:

Chelsea!

Very possible if you ask me.

Chelsea were a much stronger team back then, they had elite players all over the pitch. Now not so much in my opinion. I think the champion will come from the other semi final, Man City or PSG.

So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....


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Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup.... I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but..nothing is impossible! Wink
It is true, nothing is impossible. We already saw many surprises in the football competition. So, it can happen in the match of Real Madrid vs Chelsea. However, with a huge experience of the Real Madrid team, the chance of this team to win should be better. They have players that already experienced winning the UCL title. Although without CR7, almost all players know well how to play in the semifinal or even final of UCL. An international match like UCL is much different than a local match like FA Cup. So, we cannot determine Chelsea to play well in UCL just based on the match in FA Cup.

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April 17, 2021, 10:55:50 PM
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It could be exactly this public perception that Chelsea has no chance which in the end gives them the edge. They are very strong defensively, could definitely keep it 0:0 till late game and then score the lucky punch.

You all remember Bayern Chelsea in the final in Germany? 17:1 corners, but who won it in the end? One lucky punch Drogba, and in the penalty shootout:

Chelsea!

Very possible if you ask me.

Chelsea were a much stronger team back then, they had elite players all over the pitch. Now not so much in my opinion. I think the champion will come from the other semi final, Man City or PSG.

So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....


... nothing is impossible! Wink

Exactly! Nothing is impossible in football. Maybe so many people will see them as having the least chance to win the Champions League title. But they can do a great job and surprise everyone.

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So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....


... nothing is impossible! Wink

The FA Cup should be one of the most difficult competitions to assess the true performance of a team.
Every year, small teams beat big teams in that competition.

For example, this season Southampton won Arsenal 1-0 in the cup, three days later they lost to the league with Arsenal 1-3.

The FA Cup is not the ideal test for making predictions.

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April 18, 2021, 07:02:31 AM
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So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....


... nothing is impossible! Wink
The FA Cup should be one of the most difficult competitions to assess the true performance of a team.
Every year, small teams beat big teams in that competition.

For example, this season Southampton won Arsenal 1-0 in the cup, three days later they lost to the league with Arsenal 1-3.

The FA Cup is not the ideal test for making predictions.

I also think the results of the FA Cup are usually very surprising, because there are so many incidents of big teams being defeated by small teams.
Because usually in the FA Cup the players who are deployed are not the main players,  from here we can conclude that for most of the big teams
the FA Cup is not a top priority. So the results of the FA Cup cannot be used as a reference for the appearance of the team, meaning that
Chelsea managed to beat Manchester City in the FA Cup cannot be used as a benchmark. Since the Champions League is a competition that has
a lot of pressure, because a big team if it hasn't won the Champions League cannot be called a best team. I'm not sure Chelsea can beat Manchester
City if they meet in the Champions League competition.

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April 18, 2021, 07:18:13 AM
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So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....


... nothing is impossible! Wink

The FA Cup should be one of the most difficult competitions to assess the true performance of a team.
Every year, small teams beat big teams in that competition.

For example, this season Southampton won Arsenal 1-0 in the cup, three days later they lost to the league with Arsenal 1-3.

The FA Cup is not the ideal test for making predictions.


I agree with it. We see many surprising results here in Fa Cup. Besides, City rotated the squad a little in this game. But I'm sure about something that this nice win has improved their morale.

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April 18, 2021, 09:21:02 AM
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Real Madrid has experience in the Champions League, but unfortunately, soon there will be no players left to enter the field. Mendy was injured. Today, there were only 16 players to play with Getafe. Everyone else is injured. The rest, especially Cross and Modrid, are accumulating tired and this can cause injury. And ahead of the matches every 3-4 days.

But in a way this is a problem that ends up affecting all the teams in the competition.

Chelsea must continue to work to maintain fifth place, if they do not risk not going to the European competitions in the next season.
PSG may not be concerned about winning their league, but Monaco are trying to reach second place. So, you have to keep a good pace so you don't lose your place and don't go to the Champions next season.
Real Madrid are in second, very close to the first and with Barcelona just behind. So, you have to keep the pace, since it can be easily overtaken by opponents.
City, on the other hand, has about 10 points ahead (with one more game), and for that reason it has practically the championship won. Just do a balanced management.

Of the four finalists, City has the best conditions to be fully focused on the Champions League.

Manchester City has one big problem that can prevent them from winning. It's Guardiola. He's a good coach, but always during important matches he starts to think up something and eventually confuses the team. This often affects the results of the game. I am sure that the latest failures of the team in The Premier League and yesterday's cup match against Chelsea are precisely the consequences of his experiments.
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April 18, 2021, 10:19:35 AM
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Real Madrid has experience in the Champions League, but unfortunately, soon there will be no players left to enter the field. Mendy was injured. Today, there were only 16 players to play with Getafe. Everyone else is injured. The rest, especially Cross and Modrid, are accumulating tired and this can cause injury. And ahead of the matches every 3-4 days.

But in a way this is a problem that ends up affecting all the teams in the competition.

Chelsea must continue to work to maintain fifth place, if they do not risk not going to the European competitions in the next season.
PSG may not be concerned about winning their league, but Monaco are trying to reach second place. So, you have to keep a good pace so you don't lose your place and don't go to the Champions next season.
Real Madrid are in second, very close to the first and with Barcelona just behind. So, you have to keep the pace, since it can be easily overtaken by opponents.
City, on the other hand, has about 10 points ahead (with one more game), and for that reason it has practically the championship won. Just do a balanced management.

Of the four finalists, City has the best conditions to be fully focused on the Champions League.

Manchester City has one big problem that can prevent them from winning. It's Guardiola. He's a good coach, but always during important matches he starts to think up something and eventually confuses the team. This often affects the results of the game. I am sure that the latest failures of the team in The Premier League and yesterday's cup match against Chelsea are precisely the consequences of his experiments.

You could be right maybe but I assume he won't be doing any experiments against PSG in the semi finals.  Grin  He will have their main lineup and tactic prepared for both games. And their chance of advancing to the final is higher than PSG, I think.

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April 18, 2021, 11:09:57 AM
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After PSG was able to beat Bayern, I became sympathetic to the club! It's not for nothing that they played in last year's finals and managed to reach the semifinals this year... I will bet on the victory of PSG and I do not see a strong opponent in Man City...
And also in my opinion Real Madrid and Zidane deserve the championship! Grin

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