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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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May 20, 2021, 03:10:47 PM
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Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.


In the case of the FA Cup game, it does not serve as an example, in my opinion because this competition is well known for being full of suppressors. Chelsea himself lost the cup to Leicester. And then he won in the championship.

In the case of the regular season, they are tied. City and Chelsea, have a victory and a defeat, in the direct confrontation.


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May 21, 2021, 03:33:28 PM
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Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.


In the case of the FA Cup game, it does not serve as an example, in my opinion because this competition is well known for being full of suppressors. Chelsea himself lost the cup to Leicester. And then he won in the championship.

In the case of the regular season, they are tied. City and Chelsea, have a victory and a defeat, in the direct confrontation.



In my opinion, both have equal chance to win. I told this because I observed their head-to-head matches. Both teams are almost equally strong in head to head matches. And the matches of both teams are much more competitive. It is not clear which team will win until the 90th minute, or what the outcome of the match will be. So stay tuned, and bet on your favourite team.

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May 21, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
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The final cant be predictable, is hard
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Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

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May 21, 2021, 06:02:50 PM
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The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

Given this odds i would probably risk it and place bet on chelsea. If they manage to play in the same way as they did in the second leg against real madrid then even ManCity will have a very hard time to create opportunities to score a goal. Thomas tuchel really managed to have an impact on the teams performance since he became their coach. They have a very solid defense now and very fast players in the offense. For me the outcome of the final is completely open, whichever teams scores first has a huge advantage obviously.
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May 21, 2021, 06:04:05 PM
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The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

If you look at stake.com's odds Manchester City has an edge and the favor of odds will go with Manchester City just like in Smartbets, the favorite here really is Manchester City, even though Chelsea have good techniques as a team I think there are many speculators that are in favor with Man City,



I really can't wait for the game to start we still have 8 to 9 days before the match starts, just like these two gambling sites I am in favor of Manchester City aswell, and Man City since then was really my favorite team in this league But Chelsea right now is a formidable opponent I have seen them defeated Man City with a 2 - 1 score, and right now with Thomas Tuchel as a head coach maybe Chelsea will have a chance.
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May 21, 2021, 06:39:43 PM
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The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course
It is still difficult to predict the final results of the champions league, because in my opinion the two teams have the same opportunity to become champions of the 2020/21 season champions, Manchester City which is unstoppable in the English league and has confirmed to be the EPL champion will certainly play without the burden to be able to getting their first champions league trophy this season, as well as chelsea who played as if every match was a final under Tuchel's tutelage, of course, they will play all out in the real final on the 30th, in my opinion statistics are just numbers and things can be different on the playing field later.

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May 21, 2021, 06:42:39 PM
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The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

Manchester City seem as the absolute favorite side of the final game according to these odds. But I don't see this game as bird in the hand for Manchester City. Because Chelsea showed their quality and how dangerous they can be. They showed it by eliminating Real Madrid and defeating Manchester City in this season twice. So, I think there is a really tough game waiting for City. We will witness great tactic wars I believe.  Grin

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May 21, 2021, 07:15:31 PM
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Manchester City seem as the absolute favorite side of the final game according to these odds [...]
Moving the game from Turkey to Portugal will benefit Chelsea. Cheesy

Although, It remains to be seen what the ratio of the Fans will be ... since as far as I understand the owner of Manchester City promised to pay the way for the fans, (maybe it's all about expensive tickets, or maybe it's a gesture of goodwill) / In any case, don't underestimate the fan aura ...

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May 21, 2021, 07:43:36 PM
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Moving the game from Turkey to Portugal will benefit Chelsea. Cheesy

What is the advantage that Chelsea has, for the final to be made in Portugal, instead of Turkey?  Huh
I don't see anything in Portugal, which benefits Chelsea.

Rather the opposite. Man City has several Portuguese players.

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May 21, 2021, 07:55:33 PM
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Regardless of where the final match will take place, I will still support Manchester City to win the Champions League this season. I don't think if this match is played in Portugal or in Turkey it will be in the favor of either of them, this is the final and should be played on a neutral ground.

I am sure a lot of people will choose Chelsea to win because recently Manchester City have not been good enough in the EPL after winning the title. But I look forward to seeing the fact that they will win the final this season.

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What is the advantage that Chelsea has, for the final to be made in Portugal, instead of Turkey?  Huh
I don't see anything in Portugal, which benefits Chelsea.

Rather the opposite. Man City has several Portuguese players.
I was guided only by the data of the interactive fan map ... and it looks like Chelsea will indeed be more comfortable playing in Portugal (aside from the crowds of traveling fans). So, I have a counter question, why did you decide Porto will wait with open arms for Manchester City? [except for the case that you are local]


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Regardless of where the final match will take place, I will still support Manchester City to win the Champions League this season. I don't think if this match is played in Portugal or in Turkey it will be in the favor of either of them, this is the final and should be played on a neutral ground.

I am sure a lot of people will choose Chelsea to win because recently Manchester City have not been good enough in the EPL after winning the title. But I look forward to seeing the fact that they will win the final this season.
Portugal or Turkey I think it will remain a neutral place even if some of the players are from that country but it's not all about their country but it will focus on consistently winning because it's playing for the club not for the country.
So both parties will certainly benefit from the same, but we will see in the final who deserves to be champions of Chelsea or Manchester City.

In fact I admire the two coaches who I think are great at managing their team and capable of creating great players on the pitch so the players became aggressive after many changes with them.

In fact, I want to know for Manchester city to be the champion for the first time.

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Moving the game from Turkey to Portugal will benefit Chelsea. Cheesy

What is the advantage that Chelsea has, for the final to be made in Portugal, instead of Turkey?  Huh
I don't see anything in Portugal, which benefits Chelsea.

Rather the opposite. Man City has several Portuguese players.

I don't see any advantage for one team either, both teams from England have the same game schedule in the league, so neither has an advantage where the final is played. But I think that Manchester City is a bit stronger and will probably win the final at the first time.

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I don't see any advantage for one team either, both teams from England have the same game schedule in the league, so neither has an advantage where the final is played. But I think that Manchester City is a bit stronger and will probably win the final at the first time.
icopress has explained why, although I find the map not very accurate.
City is better and Guardiola is determined to get the trophy this season. In the other hand, Chelsea shouldn't be underestimated and the team improved a lot with Tuchel.
I don't think playing in Portugal or any other place will have an impact on the game, it all depends from how ready players are that day.

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May 21, 2021, 10:37:47 PM
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I don't think playing in Portugal or any other place will have an impact on the game, it all depends from how ready players are that day.
You are right, except the match will be held at the home of one of the contestants. If it happens, it probably has an impact on the match.
Well, as it is in Portugal, I think will be no impacts at all. Which team can win the final match depending on how good their mental and strategy. It is the final match, the preparation or experience of each team will be very helpful. If they are not ready, they cannot show the best performance in that match. Let's see which team can prepare better and has a stronger mentality.

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What is the advantage that Chelsea has, for the final to be made in Portugal, instead of Turkey?  Huh
I don't see anything in Portugal, which benefits Chelsea.

Rather the opposite. Man City has several Portuguese players.
I was guided only by the data of the interactive fan map ... and it looks like Chelsea will indeed be more comfortable playing in Portugal (aside from the crowds of traveling fans). So, I have a counter question, why did you decide Porto will wait with open arms for Manchester City? [except for the case that you are local]


I'm from Portugal, and honestly I don't feel that there are so many Chelsea fans. I believe they have fans because it was a club trained by Mourinho. I would prefer that Chelsea win, I don't think.

Nowadays I see more the Portuguese supporting City because of the Portuguese players in the squad.
We have Bernardo Silva, João Cancelo and Ruben Dias, who were players of Benfica, the club in Portugal with more fans. And goalkeeper Ederson, who also played for Benfica.

But I admit that I may be mistaken, there are more Chelsea fans in Portugal.


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May 22, 2021, 03:11:22 AM
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I don't think playing in Portugal or any other place will have an impact on the game, it all depends from how ready players are that day.
You are right, except the match will be held at the home of one of the contestants. If it happens, it probably has an impact on the match.
Well, as it is in Portugal, I think will be no impacts at all. Which team can win the final match depending on how good their mental and strategy. It is the final match, the preparation or experience of each team will be very helpful. If they are not ready, they cannot show the best performance in that match. Let's see which team can prepare better and has a stronger mentality.

Both team want to be champion and have great chance last match for Chelsea and Manchester City, exactly Chelsea success defeat Manchester City several time on domestic league and last match Chelsea success win 1-2, but Manchester City have great chance after success get trophy primer league in this season and Pep Guardiola want to be first coach give Champion league trophy for Manchester City.

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May 22, 2021, 03:28:18 AM
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I don't think playing in Portugal or any other place will have an impact on the game, it all depends from how ready players are that day.
You are right, except the match will be held at the home of one of the contestants. If it happens, it probably has an impact on the match.
Well, as it is in Portugal, I think will be no impacts at all. Which team can win the final match depending on how good their mental and strategy. It is the final match, the preparation or experience of each team will be very helpful. If they are not ready, they cannot show the best performance in that match. Let's see which team can prepare better and has a stronger mentality.

Both team want to be champion and have great chance last match for Chelsea and Manchester City, exactly Chelsea success defeat Manchester City several time on domestic league and last match Chelsea success win 1-2, but Manchester City have great chance after success get trophy primer league in this season and Pep Guardiola want to be first coach give Champion league trophy for Manchester City.

The last meeting between Manchester City and Chelsea cannot be an assessment, Chelsea's victory at that time can be said to be lucky.
Because throughout the match the two teams played equally well, even the statistics of the two teams were almost the same. But Chelsea
were lucky before the game ended, they managed to score a goal on 92 minutes. After all, at that time Manchester City was confirmed to be
the Premier League champion, so maybe Man City players don't really want to win.

Now the meetings in the Champions League are different, both teams are definitely ambitious to become champions, and the Champions
League is indeed one of Man City's targets this season. I am sure that in the Champions League final Man City will play a lot different than
when they lost to Chelsea in the Premier League. I predict Manchester City will win the Champions League this season, it doesn't mean that
Chelsea doesn't have a chance. But I believe Manchester City's chances are bigger than Chelsea.

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May 22, 2021, 11:32:32 AM
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But I admit that I may be mistaken, there are more Chelsea fans in Portugal.
Well, I can hardly argue with you because I'm not from Portugal, but besides the map, I also thought about Mourinho and a few other people ... Btw, as it turned out, all visiting fans will have to leave the country on the day the match ends, which is strange considering that Portugal is on the green list. And given the restrictions on the movement of fans, it can be assumed that the real reasons for the transfer of the match from Istanbul are hidden behind the scenes.

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May 22, 2021, 01:12:31 PM
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Btw, as it turned out, all visiting fans will have to leave the country on the day the match ends, which is strange considering that Portugal is on the green list. And given the restrictions on the movement of fans, it can be assumed that the real reasons for the transfer of the match from Istanbul are hidden behind the scenes.

Yes, it's a little weird. Besides having to do the tests for Covid.
But I believe, it was more because of Portugal being on the green list, and no longer requires quarantine in the UK. If it were in Torquia, teams and fans would be required to be quarantined when they return to the UK.

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