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May 19, 2021, 04:14:23 AM
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Let's discuss the possible line-ups for the final
It could be Zinchenko as a substitution. because Pep still uses Cancelo as a starter. in the other line, Pep should be adding 2 attackers; Sterling and Aguero to screw up the defense. And Chelsea, I guess Tuchel does not change the strategy much as the semifinals, he might not be wearing pure strikers upfront, I guess Timo comes as substitution on the second round, this is time for Pulisic and Havertz to contribution in center field and in front either.

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May 19, 2021, 04:42:39 AM
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Josep Guardiola's line-up has a well-defined identity but there are still a few doubts that the Spanish coach needs to resolve ahead of the final. The doubts mainly concern the role of left-back and defensive midfielder. Oleksandr Zinchenko and captain Fernandinho performed well in the return leg of the semi-final, providing cover and leadership for the team, while João Cancelo and Rodri are more offensive
In terms of the left back position for City, I expect Zinchenko to keep his place, he is a better option than either Mendy or Cancelo at left back, Cancelo is slightly better in attack, but what Zinchenko offers the team both in defense and attack is massive. In the defensive midfield role, I'm not sure who Pep is going to start, city need strong cover in front of the defense, and that's what Fernandinho is perfect at, but Rodri has also had a superb season playing in front of the City backline, Rodri will prolly start, and if City have something to hold on to, then I think Pep will bring in Fernandinho.
Pep should be adding 2 attackers; Sterling and Aguero to screw up the defense.
If you've been watching City's matches this season, you'll know neither of this players (Sterling & Kun) will play in the UCL final, except City are leading comfortably, then they could prolly get the final 10 or so minutes, they both have lost form and aren't impressing the manager to say the least, the same can also be said of Gabriel Jesus and Ferran Torres, they are all going to be more or less spectators on the 29th.

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May 19, 2021, 08:08:13 AM
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I don't understand why so many people here are talking about Chelsea... In my opinion Man City looks much stronger! I think they have no problem winning the Champions League... And win home and UEFA championships... Wink

People are talking about Chelsea because they will be a really serious threat. They are much more accustomed to Manchester City's gameplay and they know better what to do to be able to beat them in this final game. It will be a really tough game so I don't see City's victory as guaranteed.
This season's final match is of course not only talking about who deserves a trophy but also the rivalry and prestige of the coaches of the two clubs is also an interesting thing to discuss, I think Pep Guardiola will apply a different strategy when facing Chelsea in the final later, because in The last two meetings against Chelsea coached by Thomas Tuchel, Pep Guardiola's tactics are very easy to break and as a result Manchester City have suffered two defeats against Chelsea, and interestingly this is the first Champions League final for Manchester City in club history, so this will certainly be a burden which is very big for Pep Guardiola and the Manchester City squad, if you look at their meeting statistics this season, I would prefer for Chelsea to win and get their second champion league trophy in the final match.


Yeah, Chelsea were really good against City in this season. So they know how to beat City in this final game also. Even if Guardiola prefers a different tactic, I think that Tuchel can find another solution not to be caught off guard. I like both of these teams actually but I feel like Chelsea may win the title.

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May 19, 2021, 09:20:04 AM
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Yeah, Chelsea were really good against City in this season. So they know how to beat City in this final game also. Even if Guardiola prefers a different tactic, I think that Tuchel can find another solution not to be caught off guard. I like both of these teams actually but I feel like Chelsea may win the title.

I would not say that Chelsea was so much superior to City, in the direct confrontation.
Not counting the FA Cup, which is always a competition with many suppressions and difficult to predict what will happen, both teams have a victory and a defeat.
And if we look at the number of goals scored, City have 1 goal advantage. The curious thing is that both teams lost at home.


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May 19, 2021, 09:40:19 AM
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In football, no game can be seen as a guaranteed victory. Especially the English teams, which is quite common for smaller teams to surprise the bigger teams.

I believe the game will be difficult for City, but in the end it will win.
I agree with you, in the EPL, the possibility of choosing a particular club to be a winner is a difficult thing, English premier league is the hardest league ever where you may not know what will happen next, when it comes to final matches, the outcome often looks to be surprising, who ever knew that Liecester could beat Chelsea in the recent final, but the reverse happened in league game yester
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May 19, 2021, 10:07:52 AM
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Champions League final between two EPL clubs is slightly difficult to predict because England clubs play same football partern. However, it is worthy to note that Guadiola is more wounded than Tuchel in England in terms of UCL. Pep has suffered alot in the hands of Madrid and other clubs at round 16 and 8. So, this final is like a prayer answered.  So, I give it to Guadiola.
Even if Tuchel lost the day, he had already made positive impacts in the Chelsea.
So the wounded lion will win.

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May 19, 2021, 02:26:02 PM
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Champions League final between two EPL clubs is slightly difficult to predict because England clubs play same football partern. However, it is worthy to note that Guadiola is more wounded than Tuchel in England in terms of UCL. Pep has suffered alot in the hands of Madrid and other clubs at round 16 and 8. So, this final is like a prayer answered.  So, I give it to Guadiola.
Even if Tuchel lost the day, he had already made positive impacts in the Chelsea.
So the wounded lion will win.
It is really hard to predict that who will be the champion. Both teams have the ability to win this match. But Manchester City's players are better and more experienced than Chelsea's. I think so. So I think Manchester City will be able to win the Champions League title. And I want to bet for Manchester City's vectrory.

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May 19, 2021, 03:32:40 PM
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Champions League final between two EPL clubs is slightly difficult to predict because England clubs play same football partern. However, it is worthy to note that Guadiola is more wounded than Tuchel in England in terms of UCL. Pep has suffered alot in the hands of Madrid and other clubs at round 16 and 8. So, this final is like a prayer answered.  So, I give it to Guadiola.
Even if Tuchel lost the day, he had already made positive impacts in the Chelsea.
So the wounded lion will win.
It is really hard to predict that who will be the champion. Both teams have the ability to win this match. But Manchester City's players are better and more experienced than Chelsea's. I think so. So I think Manchester City will be able to win the Champions League title. And I want to bet for Manchester City's vectrory.
Of course this Final is about Manchester City and it is no longer a difficult prediction because even you are sure about Manchester City itself, it is different if you cannot make a choice and it is something that is difficult to predict. About the result, it doesn't matter who wins, because if you already have a choice then it's an easy prediction. I personally no longer hesitate to bet on Manchester City and indeed, Tuchel has been great so far, but at least the Tuchel formation is a newly formed formation with the squad they have and this is certainly very different from Manchester City.

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May 19, 2021, 03:39:20 PM
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I personally no longer hesitate to bet on Manchester City and indeed, Tuchel has been great so far, but at least the Tuchel formation is a newly formed formation with the squad they have and this is certainly very different from Manchester City.

That is true. City are much more of a team as a group. Almost all of them have been working on this project for a few years and the contractions at this time were very specific and made up the squad very well. Add the fact that that team is already 2/3 years running after this goal, winning the Champions League. Will it be this year? We will see, but they are well equipped for that.

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May 19, 2021, 04:01:15 PM
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Champions League final between two EPL clubs is slightly difficult to predict because England clubs play same football partern. However, it is worthy to note that Guadiola is more wounded than Tuchel in England in terms of UCL. Pep has suffered alot in the hands of Madrid and other clubs at round 16 and 8. So, this final is like a prayer answered.  So, I give it to Guadiola.
Even if Tuchel lost the day, he had already made positive impacts in the Chelsea.
So the wounded lion will win.
It is really hard to predict that who will be the champion. Both teams have the ability to win this match. But Manchester City's players are better and more experienced than Chelsea's. I think so. So I think Manchester City will be able to win the Champions League title. And I want to bet for Manchester City's vectrory.
Of course this Final is about Manchester City and it is no longer a difficult prediction because even you are sure about Manchester City itself, it is different if you cannot make a choice and it is something that is difficult to predict. About the result, it doesn't matter who wins, because if you already have a choice then it's an easy prediction. I personally no longer hesitate to bet on Manchester City and indeed, Tuchel has been great so far, but at least the Tuchel formation is a newly formed formation with the squad they have and this is certainly very different from Manchester City.
This match will be much more competitive. It is not possible to say which team will win. Pep Guardiola is certainly experienced and he has a remarkable squad. On the other hand, Tuchel has formatted his squad exceptionally well. The team is now much more stable and able to well perform with any strong team. So it is better to bet on the team of choice in this match. Even if defeated, it will not hurt for money.

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May 19, 2021, 04:03:00 PM
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I personally no longer hesitate to bet on Manchester City and indeed, Tuchel has been great so far, but at least the Tuchel formation is a newly formed formation with the squad they have and this is certainly very different from Manchester City.

That is true. City are much more of a team as a group. Almost all of them have been working on this project for a few years and the contractions at this time were very specific and made up the squad very well. Add the fact that that team is already 2/3 years running after this goal, winning the Champions League. Will it be this year? We will see, but they are well equipped for that.
Not only that, Chelsea also have to be vigilant because Manchester City is ripe to prepare for the Champions League final, if you see yesterday's match Kevin de Bruyne was absent against Newcastle who reportedly suffered an injury which had actually improved.
and that's one of Pep Guardiola's strategies to really prioritize the final because Bruyne is a very influential player at City.
and throughout the Champions League match City has never been beaten which in my opinion is a good advantage in the final later.

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May 19, 2021, 04:09:42 PM
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Yeah, Chelsea were really good against City in this season. So they know how to beat City in this final game also. Even if Guardiola prefers a different tactic, I think that Tuchel can find another solution not to be caught off guard. I like both of these teams actually but I feel like Chelsea may win the title.

I would not say that Chelsea was so much superior to City, in the direct confrontation.
Not counting the FA Cup, which is always a competition with many suppressions and difficult to predict what will happen, both teams have a victory and a defeat.
And if we look at the number of goals scored, City have 1 goal advantage. The curious thing is that both teams lost at home.


Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.

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Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.
Pep Guardiola will certainly continue to learn from 3 defeats against Chelsea in the domestic league. He (pep guardiola) will not make the same mistake in the UCL final. Especially after being bought by Sheikh Mansour, Manchester City has never won a UCL trophy, now that opportunity is before them, I think Pep Guardiola will instruct his players to press Chelsea during the match, in order to achieve the target of the club owner.

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May 19, 2021, 04:57:38 PM
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Yeah, Chelsea were really good against City in this season. So they know how to beat City in this final game also. Even if Guardiola prefers a different tactic, I think that Tuchel can find another solution not to be caught off guard. I like both of these teams actually but I feel like Chelsea may win the title.

I would not say that Chelsea was so much superior to City, in the direct confrontation.
Not counting the FA Cup, which is always a competition with many suppressions and difficult to predict what will happen, both teams have a victory and a defeat.
And if we look at the number of goals scored, City have 1 goal advantage. The curious thing is that both teams lost at home.


Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.
You can't base the winner from the many options pep has ,to pick a team,but of course it gives them an edge.

But of late Chelsea have shown not to be the weak team , and having beat Manchester City a few weeks ago should keep them motivated and because of this, this game should be treated as anybody's game!

But if you looking for a winner here, I fancy City to win.

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Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.
Pep Guardiola will certainly continue to learn from 3 defeats against Chelsea in the domestic league. He (pep guardiola) will not make the same mistake in the UCL final. Especially after being bought by Sheikh Mansour, Manchester City has never won a UCL trophy, now that opportunity is before them, I think Pep Guardiola will instruct his players to press Chelsea during the match, in order to achieve the target of the club owner.

If Pep does not win the Champions League this year, then he is unlikely to be able to do so in the next seasons. This team is now at the peak of form. Experience in past games. And there will be no excuse for defeat. And if he loses, it would be better to replace Pep. team and return to Barcelona and try to return it to its former greatness.
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Champions League final between two EPL clubs is slightly difficult to predict because England clubs play same football partern. However, it is worthy to note that Guadiola is more wounded than Tuchel in England in terms of UCL. Pep has suffered alot in the hands of Madrid and other clubs at round 16 and 8. So, this final is like a prayer answered.  So, I give it to Guadiola.
Even if Tuchel lost the day, he had already made positive impacts in the Chelsea.
So the wounded lion will win.
It is really hard to predict that who will be the champion. Both teams have the ability to win this match. But Manchester City's players are better and more experienced than Chelsea's. I think so. So I think Manchester City will be able to win the Champions League title. And I want to bet for Manchester City's vectrory.


Yea, your bet will be 70% safe. However, in football anything can happen. Tuchel has really made Chelsea a difficult club to defeat in this recent time. So, with the right selection, Chelsea will seriously contest for the trophy.

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May 19, 2021, 10:58:03 PM
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Yea, your bet will be 70% safe.

You seem so sure? AFAIK I know, both teams need the UCL title to boost their status and trophy cabinet. Man city hasn't won it before and this is a rare chance for them to do so. Chelsea on the hand, have just 1 UCL title and won't like to make that a double. Considering Tuchel went to the finals last season with PSG and lost to Bayern, I believe that he would try as much as possible to win it this time. It would be a super interesting match to watch. So I can't wait. I'm yet to place any bets yet on the event because it's a hard call to make. Both teams are rock solid right now, real reason I'm having a hard time making a pick.

City has been good this season but don't write off Chelsea just yet.

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May 20, 2021, 07:52:11 AM
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Yea, your bet will be 70% safe.
Bankers of gambling sites will look at bet data and can make gamblers surprised and kill them. Sports are open for magic flippening and Chelsea have enough experience in Champions League and good players too. They can make a flippening and take the cup.

You seem so sure? AFAIK I know, both teams need the UCL title to boost their status and trophy cabinet. Man city hasn't won it before and this is a rare chance for them to do so. Chelsea on the hand, have just 1 UCL title and won't like to make that a double. Considering Tuchel went to the finals last season with PSG and lost to Bayern, I believe that he would try as much as possible to win it this time. It would be a super interesting match to watch. So I can't wait. I'm yet to place any bets yet on the event because it's a hard call to make. Both teams are rock solid right now, real reason I'm having a hard time making a pick.

City has been good this season but don't write off Chelsea just yet.
If Manchester City are only be able to have ball possession, Chelsea can break the defense system of Man City and score a single decisive goal. In finale match, one goal can equal to a Cup.

Chelsea will try to the second Champions League cup to their hall and Tuchel will want to have his first cup. Chelsea will try to the list of few clubs which can win 2+ Champions League. Manchester City has their first finale and it is logic if they can not win it. Try a few times and win their first cup, walk on same steps of Chelsea.

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May 20, 2021, 02:26:26 PM
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Yea, your bet will be 70% safe.
Bankers of gambling sites will look at bet data and can make gamblers surprised and kill them. Sports are open for magic flippening and Chelsea have enough experience in Champions League and good players too. They can make a flippening and take the cup.

You seem so sure? AFAIK I know, both teams need the UCL title to boost their status and trophy cabinet. Man city hasn't won it before and this is a rare chance for them to do so. Chelsea on the hand, have just 1 UCL title and won't like to make that a double. Considering Tuchel went to the finals last season with PSG and lost to Bayern, I believe that he would try as much as possible to win it this time. It would be a super interesting match to watch. So I can't wait. I'm yet to place any bets yet on the event because it's a hard call to make. Both teams are rock solid right now, real reason I'm having a hard time making a pick.

City has been good this season but don't write off Chelsea just yet.
If Manchester City are only be able to have ball possession, Chelsea can break the defense system of Man City and score a single decisive goal. In finale match, one goal can equal to a Cup.

Chelsea will try to the second Champions League cup to their hall and Tuchel will want to have his first cup. Chelsea will try to the list of few clubs which can win 2+ Champions League. Manchester City has their first finale and it is logic if they can not win it. Try a few times and win their first cup, walk on same steps of Chelsea.

Although the Chelsea squad has fewer star players than Manchester City. But Chelsea's strategy is much better and they can do some remarkable counterattack. As a result, they can easily defeat many big teams. I think if Pep Guardiola can resist Chelsea's counterattack, Manchester City will win.

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May 20, 2021, 02:49:24 PM
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I cannot wait for this final any longer, I am so much curious to know whether there will be Tuchel's miracle or Guardiola's infinite confirmation! Clash of titans like these epic games should be.
I am very much undecided about the final result: I symphatize with Manchester City and I like Guardiola's football a lot even if I concede that Tuchel's Chelsea is extraordinary.
I can only hope that the citizens will win but maybe I will not bet.
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