⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[blackened515]

This season semi-final match between Chelsea and Real Madrid is going to be a tough one. With Chelsea not having any hope in winning the Premier League and also reaching the semi-final for the first time since 2014, and Real Madrid on the other hand had been preparing for this great match.

Manchester City, going to France to play P.S.G is also going to be an interesting one.
Let's watch who will advance to the final.

[Spack17]

This season semi-final match between Chelsea and Real Madrid is going to be a tough one. With Chelsea not having any hope in winning the Premier League and also reaching the semi-final for the first time since 2014, and Real Madrid on the other hand had been preparing for this great match.

Manchester City, going to France to play P.S.G is also going to be an interesting one.
Let's watch who will advance to the final.

I think also that the Chelsea-Real Madrid draw will be very competitive. I expect Chelsea to play much better than Liverpool against Real Madrid. Liverpool have been really bad in their league and we've seen its reflection on the Champions League also. Chelsea are in a better condition and they should be able to put up a good fight against Real Madrid.

City-PSG is another tough draw. Both teams are one of the biggest favourites for the championship here. It's gonna be great to watch both games and I find City a little closer than PSG to the final.

[joker_josue]

I agree with you. Is there a law that prohibits the creation of a league not under the auspices of Uefa? I don't think that any league will remove the teams from the list. Yes, and this Champions League will be played as it should. All threats will remain just threats. But Perez made a big mistake by not agreeing with Uefa. All the same, there will be some sanctions against the clubs in the Super League.

The clubs themselves, having one more competition in their calendar, will have more games to play and this may already harm the teams.

Of course, they can be penalized, for example for not being accepted in the next edition of the Champions League. But then, did the Champions League have as many recipes as it does now? I doubt.

So now they talk about penalties, but then they won't do it, because they themselves would be more affected.

We have to be realistic, the fans would still want to see the games of these big clubs, no matter what competition they are in.
We are talking about clubs that generate almost the same revenue in private matches, as in official matches.

[judas]

I hope UEFA doesn't decide to ban Real Madrid, Chelsea and Manchester City from the Champions League now. But I don't think it would run the risk of being deprived of the extra income that will come from the remaining games. And of course the supporters would be really angry with it in case it does that.

[Luzin]

This season semi-final match between Chelsea and Real Madrid is going to be a tough one. With Chelsea not having any hope in winning the Premier League and also reaching the semi-final for the first time since 2014, and Real Madrid on the other hand had been preparing for this great match.

Manchester City, going to France to play P.S.G is also going to be an interesting one.
Let's watch who will advance to the final.

Chelsea is currently ranked 5th in the EPL. The chances of winning English Primer Lague seem small because of the large difference in points. Based on this, I think Tuchel should focus on UCL, for the EPL, perhaps the target to enter the UCL zone without qualification is a good thing for now. Regarding Madrid vs Chelsea, I still support Madrid to win. The first leg will take place in Spain, I think madrid have to win at least 2 goals without conceding. For PSG and City I chose PSG to win at the moment.

[Woodie]

This whole European super League is utter crap of the worst sort!
They will end up playing in their golden league while the rest of the world will keep on playing for peanuts. This is basically the same as cornering the market or maintaining a huge monopoly over the only revenue streams that give blood to football teams.
This is all very sad.

Everything is crap about this league, starting from the critea teams are picked to play in this so called super league.

 You can't have a few teams given golden tickets to play in it and the rest are left out to scramble for the remaining slots....total BS! This also looks like a parallel UEFA champions league which is to side line other participating clubs as there are fewer seats to play for.

Is this a bail out package for the teams participating? To many answered questions sounding this hope these guys feel the displeasure coming from their fans!

[Juggy777]

This whole European super League is utter crap of the worst sort!
They will end up playing in their golden league while the rest of the world will keep on playing for peanuts. This is basically the same as cornering the market or maintaining a huge monopoly over the only revenue streams that give blood to football teams.
This is all very sad.

Everything is crap about this league, starting from the critea teams are picked to play in this so called super league.

 You can't have a few teams given golden tickets to play in it and the rest are left out to scramble for the remaining slots....total BS! This also looks like a parallel UEFA champions league which is to side line other participating clubs as there are fewer seats to play for.

Is this a bail out package for the teams participating? To many answered questions sounding this hope these guys feel the displeasure coming from their fans!

@Woodie as per the latest reports none of team can back out now, and this is very interesting because Klopp has already turned this idea down, and if it goes ahead then he’ll possibly quit Liverpool (my opinion no confirmation for now). Also Gary Neville has been on fire ever since this announcement has come in, and the way he’s only targeting Manutd feels bad, as they’re not the only club who signed up for it.

Sources:

https://www.si.com/soccer/chelsea/news/chelsea-told-they-cant-leave-european-super-league

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12280539/jurgen-klopp-says-opinion-hasnt-changed-on-european-super-league-after-previous-opposition

https://talksport.com/football/868252/gary-neville-man-united-glazers-scavengers-european-super-league/

[Daniel91]

It seems that the Super League started to fall apart even before it started, judging by this news:
''Hearing from a source with knowledge that one of the big six English clubs is now seriously considering pulling out of the Super League

They are accusing Liverpool and Manchester United — the 2 clubs leading the breakaway — of lying to them and “f***ing up”

Major split in ESL''

Source: https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1384454232867233792

It seems to be an unprepared project, done in a great hurry, probably an attempt at blackmail and pressure on UEFA before the reorganization and the new Champions League competition system.
Given the great pressure and dissatisfaction from UEFA, the fans, even the governments and the EU, I think it's a good chance that nothing will change and that once a compromise is reached between the rebels and UEFA, everything will continue as before.
I believe that the Champions League will continue as before, with all clubs.
What do you think?

[gabbie2010]

I hope UEFA doesn't decide to ban Real Madrid, Chelsea and Manchester City from the Champions League now. But I don't think it would run the risk of being deprived of the extra income that will come from the remaining games. And of course the supporters would be really angry with it in case it does that.

I don't really know why those clubs took that hasty decision in forming ES at this point in time  when they knew that UCL semi-final is around  the corner and the consequences of taking such a decision will lead to an outright ban from UEFA and FIFA.
Personally they should allow ESL to run concurrently with UCL and other leagues once there is no clashes, ESL matches is billed for mid weeks and it meant to generate more funds for those clubs now that their is lack of funds to run clubs due to restrictions these are alternative means to generate extra income for clubs.

[cryptofrka]

I'm really interested to see whether they can kick out the semifinalists during this season's competition and what would their alternative be. PSG is the only semifinalist that is not a Superleague founder, if we take the QF teams into the equation we get Porto, Borussia and Bayern.

PSG already won against Bayern so would it maybe be a Borussia - Porto semifinal? So many questions in the air and the answers need to start coming soon.

[Yogee]

....It seems to be an unprepared project, done in a great hurry, probably an attempt at blackmail and pressure on UEFA before the reorganization and the new Champions League competition system.

It wasn't prepared yesterday and UEFA is most likely aware of this planned new league. I don't know what those Super League execs or heads are thinking but the announcement was too early. They thought UEFA would not retaliate and hand down prompt punishment to the three involved teams.

[slapper]

....It seems to be an unprepared project, done in a great hurry, probably an attempt at blackmail and pressure on UEFA before the reorganization and the new Champions League competition system.

It wasn't prepared yesterday and UEFA is most likely aware of this planned new league. I don't know what those Super League execs or heads are thinking but the announcement was too early. They thought UEFA would not retaliate and hand down prompt punishment to the three involved teams.

They probably prepare all of these for long ago. The official annoucement is just to see how the UEFA reacts. They are all billionaries and they must have calculated all of the move in order to proceed the league. Let see how the big boys going to do with such retaliation. On the other hands, UEFA can not ban all of the big teams beacuse they have most fans around the world. Banning only cause bad results not just for UEFA but also to the whole soccer community

[joker_josue]

....It seems to be an unprepared project, done in a great hurry, probably an attempt at blackmail and pressure on UEFA before the reorganization and the new Champions League competition system.

It wasn't prepared yesterday and UEFA is most likely aware of this planned new league. I don't know what those Super League execs or heads are thinking but the announcement was too early. They thought UEFA would not retaliate and hand down prompt punishment to the three involved teams.

This supposed penalty, in my view, was more to frighten.

But in reality, this history of the Super League, had as main objective, to compel UEFA to think better about the rules that it is thinking to implement in the Champions League.

[Yogee]

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The official annoucement is just to see how the UEFA reacts. They are all billionaries and they must have calculated all of the move in order to proceed the league. Let see how the big boys going to do with such retaliation.

It's a stupid move. Why would they even take the chance of getting expelled from the league that they are still competing? I don't see any logic there.

On the other hands, UEFA can not ban all of the big teams beacuse they have most fans around the world. Banning only cause bad results not just for UEFA but also to the whole soccer community

UEFA can ban these teams if they find it legal. They already called support from the fans and other league organizations to not support the break away league.

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This supposed penalty, in my view, was more to frighten.

Poor bluff.

But in reality, this history of the Super League, had as main objective, to compel UEFA to think better about the rules that it is thinking to implement in the Champions League.

They have every right to disagree but they don't have to do it at a time like this. Fans miss the game and these teams are taking the game like a hostage.

[justdimin]

The clubs themselves, having one more competition in their calendar, will have more games to play and this may already harm the teams.

Of course, they can be penalized, for example for not being accepted in the next edition of the Champions League. But then, did the Champions League have as many recipes as it does now? I doubt.

So now they talk about penalties, but then they won't do it, because they themselves would be more affected.

We have to be realistic, the fans would still want to see the games of these big clubs, no matter what competition they are in.
We are talking about clubs that generate almost the same revenue in private matches, as in official matches.

I believe there is a chance that regular teams will keep their teams like normal, but Uefa may disbar every team that joins the super league. So, they will have their regular leagues, and they will also have the european league, but nothing in champions league. That seems to be the worst thing that could happen if you ask me, I do not think that anything worse would happen.

However I also consider the fact that what happens if they are in their league, in their national cups, in the european league, and in champions league all at the same time.

Isn't that just insane amount of games? That would make teams tired a lot, that will be like 3 games a week for 40 weeks, that is just way too much, normally high level teams play at least 60 games a year when they go far, and that is already way too much, to bring it to another league and making it maybe who knows 100 games? We don't know how many games but it is going to be very difficult.

[acquafredda]

This whole European super League is utter crap of the worst sort!
They will end up playing in their golden league while the rest of the world will keep on playing for peanuts. This is basically the same as cornering the market or maintaining a huge monopoly over the only revenue streams that give blood to football teams.
This is all very sad.

The whole purpose of the super league is to give the founding clubs more pocket money. Even JPMorgan is bankrolling 5billion GBP total into the teams.

Apparently all this was done without consulting the coaches and players first, and now they're the ones who are getting the flak from fans

And to be honest, what kind of Super league has Arsenal playing while finishing mid-table?  

But Real president Perez said that if players will be banned from playing in World Cup, they will make their own World Cup.

LOL!!   Then it would be a World Cup just for La Liga teams.

I second your thought and I sincerely hope this superleague talks will end bad. Supporters should finally understand that they are like mcdonald's cows: only good to produce some meat to be sold on the market. If supporters realize this and, for a moment, forget to support their teams...this whole superleague bubble will deflate.

[ILuckyGuyI]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56823501

It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.

[joker_josue]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56823501

It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.

That is true, UEFA won this battle, but I think that sooner or later, it will lose or have to radically change the structure of football in the old continent.

This so-called Super League, was elaborated on the knee. But, it will certainly lead to more clubs from all over Europe, starting to think about doing something, that is viable for everyone and profitable, without losing competitiveness.

Of course, it will not be now that this will happen. But I believe that in a few years' time, big changes will emerge. This was just a sign.

[Lordhermes]

They probably prepare all of these for long ago. The official annoucement is just to see how the UEFA reacts. They are all billionaries and they must have calculated all of the move in order to proceed the league. Let see how the big boys going to do with such retaliation. On the other hands, UEFA can not ban all of the big teams beacuse they have most fans around the world. Banning only cause bad results not just for UEFA but also to the whole soccer community

I never trust the FIFA community because all of them at the council board of directors knows every moves they have taken to secure this new league, they might have calculated and watched how the fans will react towards it, if 80% of fans are for their new league implementation, then the UEFA champion league will be fading away gradually. They have captured the heart of the fans to the extent that they keep getting wealthy everyday. It's just a political play these dudes are displacing.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56823501

It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.

This league will never happen officially together with UEFA Champions League or Europa League. The Super League can be hold in summer that is the period for training, etc. when players and clubs are free from national leagues, UEFA Champions League, Europa League and international tournaments (Euro, World Cup, Coppa America, etc.).

Sadly if it is hold on such period, its attraction will be smaller. It looks like a friendly tournament. I don't remember the names of those tournaments but big clubs already have such in the summer: in the USA, in Italy, etc. Someone knows the name can help.