⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[AndySt]

While that is generally true, you would definitely expect the three to also create their chances on their own (as a trio I mean). Then again surprises are always possible, same with Young Boys and Manchester United. Sometimes it is even a bit harder during the group stage against smaller clubs because for them every game is like a final.
I would definitely say that PSG is going to play an important role during this tournament.

I do not understand how people are expecting Mbappe and Messi to be getting along very well. Mbappe is literally rejecting offers from PSG to extend his contract and is willing to leave the team for free, dude wants to go to Real Madrid because he likes Ronaldo so much and does or did hated Messi, he was a Ronaldo fanboy when he was younger and if you asked him if he would trade Messi and Ronaldo from psg to united today in exchange for extending his contract, dude would sign a 5 year contract at PSG for that trade.
So, this is just senseless and useless talk about how these trio will get along, they won't because two of them basically hate each other at worst, dislike each other at best. Neymar is at the between, he played with Messi and likes him, and playing with Mbappe for how many years and likes him too, he is like that friend during break up who doesn't know who to continue be friends with.

I don't think that Mbappe's love for Real Madrid can interfere with a human relationship with Messi, especially if it results in a hidden or obvious dislike. For example, despite the constant competition between each other, Ronaldo and Messi speak quite respectfully about each other and I think they would have found mutual points of contact in the game if Ronaldo's transfer to Paris Saint-Germain had still taken place. A certain degree of sports anger and personal selfishness are usually useful in sports, but you should never overdo it, because these qualities can undermine the moral health of an athlete. Moreover, football is a team game, where the result depends to a large extent on interaction with partners.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

I don't think that Mbappe's love for Real Madrid can interfere with a human relationship with Messi, especially if it results in a hidden or obvious dislike.

Mbappe now is like Neymar years ago when they feel they are one of best players on the world and want to compete with Messi and Ronaldo for the best position.

Neymar did it, left Barcelona and joined PSG. He failed to beat Messi and Ronaldo after the transfer to PSG and now he feels happy when playing with Messi again. Mbappe is different, not because he is more talented than Neymar. He has better opportunities to beat Messi and Ronaldo because they are older and older now.

If Mbappe can not wait, he has to leave PSG. Only he knows what he really want and it seems that he does not want to wait for 2 or 3 more seasons to become the best player.

[MonaLeeTracy]

I don't think that Mbappe's love for Real Madrid can interfere with a human relationship with Messi, especially if it results in a hidden or obvious dislike. For example, despite the constant competition between each other, Ronaldo and Messi speak quite respectfully about each other and I think they would have found mutual points of contact in the game if Ronaldo's transfer to Paris Saint-Germain had still taken place. A certain degree of sports anger and personal selfishness are usually useful in sports, but you should never overdo it, because these qualities can undermine the moral health of an athlete. Moreover, football is a team game, where the result depends to a large extent on interaction with partners.

The presence of Messi in the PSG squad will not make Mbappe position threatened, it will even increase Mbappe confidence to be able to play with big players like Messi. Since Messi wore the PSG shirt, it was the first time Mbappe and Messi played together against Club Burge in the UCL, so I don't think it can be said that Mbappe and Messi relationship is not good. The draw that PSG got when they faced Club Brugge was because their relationship was not well connected on the pitch, while off the field Messi and Mbappe look very close.

[CryptoBuds]

I don't think that Mbappe's love for Real Madrid can interfere with a human relationship with Messi, especially if it results in a hidden or obvious dislike. For example, despite the constant competition between each other, Ronaldo and Messi speak quite respectfully about each other and I think they would have found mutual points of contact in the game if Ronaldo's transfer to Paris Saint-Germain had still taken place. A certain degree of sports anger and personal selfishness are usually useful in sports, but you should never overdo it, because these qualities can undermine the moral health of an athlete. Moreover, football is a team game, where the result depends to a large extent on interaction with partners.

The presence of Messi in the PSG squad will not make Mbappe position threatened, it will even increase Mbappe confidence to be able to play with big players like Messi. Since Messi wore the PSG shirt, it was the first time Mbappe and Messi played together against Club Burge in the UCL, so I don't think it can be said that Mbappe and Messi relationship is not good. The draw that PSG got when they faced Club Brugge was because their relationship was not well connected on the pitch, while off the field Messi and Mbappe look very close.

If Mbappe is not friendly and maintains the tendency to score goals alone, then Messi, Mbappe, and the PSG team will be under threat. Because at the moment the PSG team will rely more on Mbappe and Messi to score goals. So the bonding between Mbappe and Messi must be good. Lots of talented players on the team. PSG will get a better result from them if all the players have the mentality to help each other.

[slaman29]

No team is weak as long as they reached UCL. They all mocked Sheriff Tiraspol and boom they won another game against Shaktar who is a great team of Europe. Also , whoever thought that Milan will go in Liverpool just to get goals they were so wrong as Milan almost snatched a draw against a team who has the same players for 3 years now making very hard for any team to play against them.

Exactly. There's no more such thing as a weak team in the group stage. They got there either by winning their league or fighting off strong opposition in the qualifications, which is exactly how Sheriff made history for themselves. It's amazing for them, their fans, and a wake up call to giants to ask themselves if they are as good as they think they are.

[Daniel91]

after two match Lionel Messi still not make anything for PSG exactly on champion league when played draw with Club Brugge, without any one shot and not any assist made by Lionel Messi make many fans not happy with Leo performance for PSG, can he give more expectation on PSG or not.

I understand that fans prolly want an immediate impact from Lionel Messi, but imo, they must have to be patient with the Argentine, we are all aware of the quality he possesses, but we must also not forget that he spent almost all of his career in Barcelona, and PSG is more or less a new territory to him and he must have to adapt to how they play, I'm pretty sure Messi will have a successful spell for PSG, at least from am individual perspective.

The big question is whether so many superstars can play together without problems. In the last CL game, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe were on the pitch from the start for the first time and we all know how the game turned out. PSG was not really outstanding. Bruges had a good chance to even win the game. On paper, PSG should have dominated the game and won clearly. The next CL game is against ManCity. That will show how strong PSG really is.

PSG has a big problem due to the imbalance in the team.
Messi, Neymar and Mbappe simply do not play defense, so in the defense phase PSG always has three players less.
These three superstars just don't want to spend time and energy playing in defense but only play in attack.
Against weaker teams PSG can win with this handicap based on great individual player quality, but against stronger and better teams like Manchester CIty, PSG has no chance.
If the coach does not solve this problem and persuade his big stars to suppress their vanity and submit to the team, PSG will not win the Champions League again, regardless of bringing Messi.

[MAAManda]

No team is weak as long as they reached UCL. They all mocked Sheriff Tiraspol and boom they won another game against Shaktar who is a great team of Europe. Also , whoever thought that Milan will go in Liverpool just to get goals they were so wrong as Milan almost snatched a draw against a team who has the same players for 3 years now making very hard for any team to play against them.

Exactly. There's no more such thing as a weak team in the group stage. They got there either by winning their league or fighting off strong opposition in the qualifications, which is exactly how Sheriff made history for themselves. It's amazing for them, their fans, and a wake up call to giants to ask themselves if they are as good as they think they are.

To be honest, I really admire Sheriff Tiraspol, they come from a league that is classified as very weak, maybe they can enter the Champions League group stage, it's a pride for them, especially in the first match they managed to beat a giant team from Ukraine (Shakhtar Donetsk).

But it looks like it will be difficult for them (Sheriff Tiraspol) In their second Champions League match, they will face Real Madrid (Nightmare for many clubs)

[alpamar99]

To be honest, I really admire Sheriff Tiraspol, they come from a league that is classified as very weak, maybe they can enter the Champions League group stage, it's a pride for them, especially in the first match they managed to beat a giant team from Ukraine (Shakhtar Donetsk).

But it looks like it will be difficult for them (Sheriff Tiraspol) In their second Champions League match, they will face Real Madrid (Nightmare for many clubs)

the positive side is that the sheriff can learn a lot from european teams which even in the group stage they are actually underdogs because indeed they have just started entering the most prestigious league in europe.
and the win in the first game was a good start but on the other hand there are two teams in this group who are regulars in the Champions League namely madrid and inter. It would be great and it would be beautiful history if the sheriffs could move on to the next round but even if they failed they learned a very valuable lesson from here.

[mv1986]

While that is generally true, you would definitely expect the three to also create their chances on their own (as a trio I mean). Then again surprises are always possible, same with Young Boys and Manchester United. Sometimes it is even a bit harder during the group stage against smaller clubs because for them every game is like a final.
I would definitely say that PSG is going to play an important role during this tournament.

I do not understand how people are expecting Mbappe and Messi to be getting along very well. Mbappe is literally rejecting offers from PSG to extend his contract and is willing to leave the team for free, dude wants to go to Real Madrid because he likes Ronaldo so much and does or did hated Messi, he was a Ronaldo fanboy when he was younger and if you asked him if he would trade Messi and Ronaldo from psg to united today in exchange for extending his contract, dude would sign a 5 year contract at PSG for that trade.

So, this is just senseless and useless talk about how these trio will get along, they won't because two of them basically hate each other at worst, dislike each other at best. Neymar is at the between, he played with Messi and likes him, and playing with Mbappe for how many years and likes him too, he is like that friend during break up who doesn't know who to continue be friends with.

No, they are professional enough and I think even Ronaldo and Messi could be successful if they were to play for the same team. The reason I believe that Mbappe and Messi fill will into the same team is that Mbappe has this insane speed and Messi an absolutely unbelievable precision in his passing and an abnormal sense for free space that is going to open up for rocket fast players like Mbappe. So just considering their skills they should usually play very well together.

[Joca97]

To be honest, I really admire Sheriff Tiraspol, they come from a league that is classified as very weak, maybe they can enter the Champions League group stage, it's a pride for them, especially in the first match they managed to beat a giant team from Ukraine (Shakhtar Donetsk).

But it looks like it will be difficult for them (Sheriff Tiraspol) In their second Champions League match, they will face Real Madrid (Nightmare for many clubs)

the positive side is that the sheriff can learn a lot from european teams which even in the group stage they are actually underdogs because indeed they have just started entering the most prestigious league in europe.
and the win in the first game was a good start but on the other hand there are two teams in this group who are regulars in the Champions League namely madrid and inter. It would be great and it would be beautiful history if the sheriffs could move on to the next round but even if they failed they learned a very valuable lesson from here.

Sheriff is the biggest underdog currently in the last 10 years at least in the champions league. They have gone far in the qualfications and made it to the group faze and even won for their first game at home. So i think they can even go far they are writting history for their country

[CLS63]

I think that Liverpool - Milan game was quite emotional. I still remember the Champions League finale in 2005 between these two teams. Liverpool made an insane comeback from 3-0 then and even won the title after the penalty shoot-outs. And they played against each other in 2007 in this tournament again. But they didn't play since 2007 until this game. This was a meaningful game for both teams. And I must admit that we watched another very exciting and delightful game. Each team got ahead in the game but Liverpool managed to be the winner at the end by 3-2. What a game it was!

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I think that Liverpool - Milan game was quite emotional. I still remember the Champions League finale in 2005 between these two teams. Liverpool made an insane comeback from 3-0 then and even won the title after the penalty shoot-outs. And they played against each other in 2007 in this tournament again. But they didn't play since 2007 until this game. This was a meaningful game for both teams. And I must admit that we watched another very exciting and delightful game. Each team got ahead in the game but Liverpool managed to be the winner at the end by 3-2. What a game it was!

Yes but the situation changes every season and Liverpool are more dominant I have to say that Liverpool deserved to win because they played an impressive game
And in the next game in the next few months I'm sure Milan will avenge this defeat maybe with a higher score I don't see Liverpool having a chance there.

[rmhuntley]

I think that Liverpool - Milan game was quite emotional. I still remember the Champions League finale in 2005 between these two teams. Liverpool made an insane comeback from 3-0 then and even won the title after the penalty shoot-outs. And they played against each other in 2007 in this tournament again. But they didn't play since 2007 until this game. This was a meaningful game for both teams. And I must admit that we watched another very exciting and delightful game. Each team got ahead in the game but Liverpool managed to be the winner at the end by 3-2. What a game it was!

Yes but the situation changes every season and Liverpool are more dominant I have to say that Liverpool deserved to win because they played an impressive game
And in the next game in the next few months I'm sure Milan will avenge this defeat maybe with a higher score I don't see Liverpool having a chance there.

Almost Serie A team when win they will make more defensive than playing attractive and make many goal again, Liverpool keep play dominance and almost attractive how to make goal again although success make first goal, but Milan after success first half win with score 1-2 they play with slowly on second half and give chance for Liverpool made three goals. I think need pressing almost 90 minutes if want to win and AC Milan have do it when play for second match with ATM.

[skarais]

Almost Serie A team when win they will make more defensive than playing attractive and make many goal again,

This is one of the most famous things about Italian football. The strategy of defending when winning will not always be able to help them not to lose in the end if the opponent can find gaps and opportunities to score goals. The average Italian team does have a strong defense and also a good aerial duel, so sometimes they are quite difficult to beat. I don't really like this strategy because it looks very monotonous when the opposing team has more control over the game while this team is too busy trying to defend. One of the most interesting matches to watch is one where both teams play openly.

[blue Snow]

I think that Liverpool - Milan game was quite emotional. I still remember the Champions League finale in 2005 between these two teams.

that was what I said before, that is a legend game between the club. but for this session Liverpool clearly superior, they have a team with fully complete every side. it's just that they're unlucky created 1 different goal yesterday even though they can create more than expected. maybe it will be a turnaround when they come to San Siro in December, possible Milan creates a winning.

[Daniel91]

No team is weak as long as they reached UCL. They all mocked Sheriff Tiraspol and boom they won another game against Shaktar who is a great team of Europe. Also , whoever thought that Milan will go in Liverpool just to get goals they were so wrong as Milan almost snatched a draw against a team who has the same players for 3 years now making very hard for any team to play against them.

Exactly. There's no more such thing as a weak team in the group stage. They got there either by winning their league or fighting off strong opposition in the qualifications, which is exactly how Sheriff made history for themselves. It's amazing for them, their fans, and a wake up call to giants to ask themselves if they are as good as they think they are.

To be honest, I really admire Sheriff Tiraspol, they come from a league that is classified as very weak, maybe they can enter the Champions League group stage, it's a pride for them, especially in the first match they managed to beat a giant team from Ukraine (Shakhtar Donetsk).

But it looks like it will be difficult for them (Sheriff Tiraspol) In their second Champions League match, they will face Real Madrid (Nightmare for many clubs)

Sheriff is probably the biggest surprise of this year’s Champions League competition.
In fact, no one gave them a chance in the Champions League qualifiers and they all predicted a match between Zvezda and Dinamo, but Sheriff beat both teams and knocked them out of the competition, which was a big surprise.
Now they also beat Shakhtar and showed that the previous results were not accidental and also now they can hope to win third place in the group and continue to compete in the spring in the Europa League which would be another great success for them.

[Spack17]

I can't wait to watch the next Milan - Liverpool match! Because their last match was insanely competitive. Liverpool dominated the match in general actually but Milan still didn't care about it. They surprised people a lot by making a comeback from 1-0 to 2-1. And in the second half, Liverpool made the same comeback and won the match by 3-2 also. But Milan also deserved a point here I think with their productivity.

[s0lidus]

Keep an eye on Dutch giant Ajax. After blowing away Sporting CP with 1-5 last week, they won their Eredivisie (Dutch competition) match yesterday with 9-0 with 8 different goal scorers. Their next Champions League match is against Beşiktaş.

[mv1986]

Keep an eye on Dutch giant Ajax. After blowing away Sporting CP with 1-5 last week, they won their Eredivisie (Dutch competition) match yesterday with 9-0 with 8 different goal scorers. Their next Champions League match is against Beşiktaş.

Amsterdam is in outstanding shape. Even before the 9 - 0 of yesterday, their stats were already overwhelming. What was out of this world in the 9 - 0 game was their efficiency and I doubt they can keep it up. 11 shots on target and 9 goals! That doesn't happen everyday. I would assume though that they are going to beat Besiktas.

[alpamar99]

the positive side is that the sheriff can learn a lot from european teams which even in the group stage they are actually underdogs because indeed they have just started entering the most prestigious league in europe.
and the win in the first game was a good start but on the other hand there are two teams in this group who are regulars in the Champions League namely madrid and inter. It would be great and it would be beautiful history if the sheriffs could move on to the next round but even if they failed they learned a very valuable lesson from here.

Sheriff is the biggest underdog currently in the last 10 years at least in the champions league. They have gone far in the qualfications and made it to the group faze and even won for their first game at home. So i think they can even go far they are writting history for their country

yes history will definitely be great for the sheriffs as this is a debut and can be called the best season for them.
even now they are still giving a surprise in the Champions League after defeating dynamo Zagreb which incidentally is a Champions League subscription with a striking score in the play offs, the sheriffs were also able to win 2-0 against Shakhtar in the group phase.
I think they are too shocking for a debutant team.
but they are faced with two clubs that incidentally have won the champions league now.
the most likely is that they are in 3rd position and thrown into the Europa League next season.