2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Ziskinberg]

Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

Blackwater and Terrafirma are the worst team in the PBA, so it's not surprising if Terrafirma will keep losing and losing until they get tired. Good thing that Blackwater now are becoming a competitive team already, they also won some games already if I'm not mistaken, so hopefully, by next season there will be some changes on Terrafirma for the team to improve, or they should get a good import that will carry the team.

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[Hypnosis00]

The game between Meralco and Phoenix, it was Phoenix who are controlling the game so far.

1st half is over, let's see if Meralco will have a big run to make it a close game.
Prior to this game, Meralco are -4.5 favorite, so hopefully bookies are correct on making this team the favorite.

remember that Phoenix came from the last 2 big wins.

[Fredomago]

Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

Blackwater and Terrafirma are the worst team in the PBA, so it's not surprising if Terrafirma will keep losing and losing until they get tired. Good thing that Blackwater now are becoming a competitive team already, they also won some games already if I'm not mistaken, so hopefully, by next season there will be some changes on Terrafirma for the team to improve, or they should get a good import that will carry the team.

Blackwater is performing well while DYIP is far from winning games, both are classified as farm teams which viewers interest is not that much anymore, though some gamblers are using both teams to bet and make some good amount either using it for ML or Handicap the chance still good when picking against these team. If you are monitoring games inside the PBA, you'll be familiar with how both teams are playing and how you can place the kind of bet for your day.

Just be mindful since anything can happen just like how bossing upset SMB, who knows, maybe the next thing we see it's DYIP time to upset a super team..

[Kelvinid]

Just be mindful since anything can happen just like how bossing upset SMB, who knows, maybe the next thing we see it's DYIP time to upset a super team..

But Blackwater this conference is not anymore a bad team, maybe they are below in ranking but they also win games in the all Filipino cup. DYIP is in a different state, it seems like they are finding a win which until now they still could not see one.

[Shamm]

Just be mindful since anything can happen just like how bossing upset SMB, who knows, maybe the next thing we see it's DYIP time to upset a super team..

But Blackwater this conference is not anymore a bad team, maybe they are below in ranking but they also win games in the all Filipino cup. DYIP is in a different state, it seems like they are finding a win which until now they still could not see one.

Actually all teams in PBA are strong enough but in case of Terrafirma and black water even though they are strong but other teams are stronger than them and that's the reason why they can't enter to the finals and some people are saying that they are farm teams which means very easy win for the other team if they face black water and Terrafirma but I thing I am sure if this team get a very strong player then without a doubt someday this team will shine.

[Slow death]

The game between Meralco and Phoenix, it was Phoenix who are controlling the game so far.

1st half is over, let's see if Meralco will have a big run to make it a close game.
Prior to this game, Meralco are -4.5 favorite, so hopefully bookies are correct on making this team the favorite.

remember that Phoenix came from the last 2 big wins.

Phoenix won the game and the part that even made me laugh a little and that on the prediction sites were giving Meralco as the favorite team, there were even comments from people who from what I read were very confident that Meralco would win the game, I even I asked where did so much confidence come from that Meralco would win? as I am not an experienced basketball punter so I decided to do more research and then follow the result, but my intuition told me that Phoenix would win the game, maybe in the table they are better than Meralco so if I were to bet on this game I would would have bet on Phoenix to win. I regret not having bet, I would have made a profit. but it was worth the experience because I'm starting to follow the philippines basketball I still have a lot to learn to be able to make good bets and make a profit

[blockman]

Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

The current losing streak of TerraFirma is 25 and the longest is 29 by Blackwater bossing.

The next 3 games of TerraFirma are against Bay Area, Ginebra and TNT. I'm pretty sure that they will not win against Bay Area (and many will agree with me). TNT? I don't think so as well, but they might against Ginebra who lost twice against ROS and Phoenix which are both independent teams but if they lose, the streak will continue, and it will be 28 after that.

After that, it will be NorthPort, NLEX, SMB and their final game is against Phoenix. TBH, it's hard to imagine which team where TerraFirma has a chance to win after how they are playing this conference. Yes, Prosper is a legit import but the problem is the local players. There is lack of support coming from them even though Prosper is getting at least 20-20 per game. I agree with you that it's good to see a foreigner like him trying to learn Tagalog words and supporting other players like Kai Sotto. I might watch his video if he will try to eat some exotic PH foods like "balut" for example .

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

[goaldigger]

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

This is a sad situation for a team, they don’t join the league just to have this losing streak, it’s sad that after all their effort, they can’t still have a win. Their next big games might look impossible for them to win, but who knows? Terrafirma should have a good strategy and game play plan, they have some good players as well. The worst case is, Terrafirma might not join next conference because of their poor performance, lot of money being wasted here.

[crzy]

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

This is a sad situation for a team, they don’t join the league just to have this losing streak, it’s sad that after all their effort, they can’t still have a win. Their next big games might look impossible for them to win, but who knows? Terrafirma should have a good strategy and game play plan, they have some good players as well. The worst case is, Terrafirma might not join next conference because of their poor performance, lot of money being wasted here.

That’s the problem with that team, they are not working good as a team though they have good players as well it’s just that, it’s not enough for a professional league like this. Terrafirma might join the list of worst team to enter PBA, if they can’t still have a win then what more if they face top teams? They need a major adjustment if they still want to participate next conference which I believe they still want it.

[blockman]

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

This is a sad situation for a team, they don’t join the league just to have this losing streak, it’s sad that after all their effort, they can’t still have a win. Their next big games might look impossible for them to win, but who knows? Terrafirma should have a good strategy and game play plan, they have some good players as well. The worst case is, Terrafirma might not join next conference because of their poor performance, lot of money being wasted here.

Well, there's a business behind their losses because trades and picks are going to be in favor of them so that's how they go. When they get the first pick, they'll be getting those that are good and rising stars and then eventually going to trade it to the stronger teams.
They've been called as the farm team in the league and that's why many don't like how it goes when there's a team that considers that strategy. Coach Yeng has already said that and that's why he's not going into that type of strategy and is aiming for a championship because that's how it should be.

[Fredomago]

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

This is a sad situation for a team, they don’t join the league just to have this losing streak, it’s sad that after all their effort, they can’t still have a win. Their next big games might look impossible for them to win, but who knows? Terrafirma should have a good strategy and game play plan, they have some good players as well. The worst case is, Terrafirma might not join next conference because of their poor performance, lot of money being wasted here.

It's a been a long while since they are in that same spot if I remember it right, this team don't have that capabilities to compete with super teams and they are not doing anything to change that fate, the selection that they've got is not enough beating an ordinary squad what more facing SMC and Pangilinan group? Though they are still in the league, but maybe you are right, the chance of leaving the league is possible to happen if there's no improvement coming from this team.

[LogitechMouse]

The game between Meralco and Phoenix, it was Phoenix who are controlling the game so far.
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The Phoenix win against the Meralco 89-82.
To sum it up, NLEX also won against their sister team, TNT.

I will not be surprised if Meralco will change imports right now because it seems like O'Bryant is not that efficient. He only got 7 points and 16 rebounds in 46 minutes of playing and only 2/17 shooting. For an import, it's an awful performance and for sure many fans will agree with that. Now the Meralco are at the bottom of the standings right now and if I'm Coach Norman Black, I'll be thinking of replacing O'Bryant and find another import.

Just be mindful since anything can happen just like how bossing upset SMB, who knows, maybe the next thing we see it's DYIP time to upset a super team..

I still remember how Blackwater got their first win after 29 game losing streak. It was against Magnolia on their last game as well in that conference and they won by just a point.

Anything can happen in basketball. Who would've thought that Ginebra lost twice against independent teams right now. Who would've thought that Blackwater will win against SMB. I mean let's expect the unexpected like how crypto is moving . I just hope that TerraFirma will at least get one win this conference and not break the losing streak of BlackWater.

[Fredomago]

Just be mindful since anything can happen just like how bossing upset SMB, who knows, maybe the next thing we see it's DYIP time to upset a super team..

I still remember how Blackwater got their first win after 29 game losing streak. It was against Magnolia on their last game as well in that conference and they won by just a point.

Anything can happen in basketball. Who would've thought that Ginebra lost twice against independent teams right now. Who would've thought that Blackwater will win against SMB. I mean let's expect the unexpected like how crypto is moving . I just hope that TerraFirma will at least get one win this conference and not break the losing streak of BlackWater.

Adding to that hype I also remember that it was Mags who's on the top from that season and the upset gave them their first loss during the elimination, As like what I have said, there's always an upset that we don't know when will take place, Bossing beats SMB remember? a game that really impresses those who watch that game, it was a determination that gave them the win.

It was still fresh, the game was controlled by SMB in the early quarters, it was on the fourth when Bossing start the rally and managed to overrun the last season champ.

[Kelvinid]

Tomorrow we have SMB vs Converge, I'm leaning on the SMB here as I believe they will bounce back from the embarrassing loss against the Dragons.

I'm still waiting for the betting odds but I'm sure SMB will be the favorite here, hopefully not the heavy favorite so I will be tempted more to bet on them. By the way, the first game are DYIP and Bay Area Dragons, I know it will be boring that's why I didn't tough it.

[Vaculin]

Tomorrow we have SMB vs Converge, I'm leaning on the SMB here as I believe they will bounce back from the embarrassing loss against the Dragons.

I'm still waiting for the betting odds but I'm sure SMB will be the favorite here, hopefully not the heavy favorite so I will be tempted more to bet on them. By the way, the first game are DYIP and Bay Area Dragons, I know it will be boring that's why I didn't tough it.

You'll be surprise that SMB is not a heavy favorite now.

Betting odds are already out, SMB is only -1.5, so I guess you'll not miss that opportunity.
Also, Bay Area Dragons is -20.5, though it's high but against the worst team in the PBA, I think I'll take that spread. 

[bisdak40]

Tomorrow we have SMB vs Converge, I'm leaning on the SMB here as I believe they will bounce back from the embarrassing loss against the Dragons.

I'm still waiting for the betting odds but I'm sure SMB will be the favorite here, hopefully not the heavy favorite so I will be tempted more to bet on them. By the way, the first game are DYIP and Bay Area Dragons, I know it will be boring that's why I didn't tough it.

You'll be surprise that SMB is not a heavy favorite now.

Betting odds are already out, SMB is only -1.5, so I guess you'll not miss that opportunity.
Also, Bay Area Dragons is -20.5, though it's high but against the worst team in the PBA, I think I'll take that spread. 

Let's remember that on SMB's side, their best local player is out and a new import will be coming in so I think there will be some sort of chemistry problem at the beginning so i'll go with Converge ML @1.89, I consider this a semi-risky bet.

I agree with you mate on taking the spread for the Dragons as Dyip at the moment is in disarray as if they are playing in an amateur league and for sure the Dragons won't let their guards down so a 20-point spread is not hard to cover for a high scoring team like the Dragons.

[ultrloa]

Tomorrow we have SMB vs Converge, I'm leaning on the SMB here as I believe they will bounce back from the embarrassing loss against the Dragons.

I'm still waiting for the betting odds but I'm sure SMB will be the favorite here, hopefully not the heavy favorite so I will be tempted more to bet on them. By the way, the first game are DYIP and Bay Area Dragons, I know it will be boring that's why I didn't tough it.

You'll be surprise that SMB is not a heavy favorite now.

Betting odds are already out, SMB is only -1.5, so I guess you'll not miss that opportunity.
Also, Bay Area Dragons is -20.5, though it's high but against the worst team in the PBA, I think I'll take that spread. 

Not surprising, Fajardo is out and SMB lose on Dragons so most maybe many of PBA fans think that they are not strong especially their main star is out on the rooster. It's good to try to bet on SMB since even if they are not the crowd favorite at the moment still they have great piece which they can use if their coach know there guys and what they can contribute to their team.

[blockman]

It's a been a long while since they are in that same spot if I remember it right, this team don't have that capabilities to compete with super teams and they are not doing anything to change that fate, the selection that they've got is not enough beating an ordinary squad what more facing SMC and Pangilinan group? Though they are still in the league, but maybe you are right, the chance of leaving the league is possible to happen if there's no improvement coming from this team.

They've been the Bossing 2.0 while the former has become a good team recently and stepping up since they've got plans of getting out of being stuck at the lowest.
This team has to go with the same experience until they realize that there's a need to change everything. I commend the Bossings when they've made meetings and talked about how and what they must do to get out of their former bad situation in standings. But for Terrafirma, we don't know if they're realizing it now.

[Yamifoud]

It's a been a long while since they are in that same spot if I remember it right, this team don't have that capabilities to compete with super teams and they are not doing anything to change that fate, the selection that they've got is not enough beating an ordinary squad what more facing SMC and Pangilinan group? Though they are still in the league, but maybe you are right, the chance of leaving the league is possible to happen if there's no improvement coming from this team.

They've been the Bossing 2.0 while the former has become a good team recently and stepping up since they've got plans of getting out of being stuck at the lowest.
This team has to go with the same experience until they realize that there's a need to change everything. I commend the Bossings when they've made meetings and talked about how and what they must do to get out of their former bad situation in standings. But for Terrafirma, we don't know if they're realizing it now.

I think they already realize their mistakes as they are in a long losing streak already. Maybe they just don't have the players that knows how to win, they are not inspired because this team is just a farm team and they know if someone step up, eventually he will be sent to a good team and they will struggle again.

[blockman]

It's a been a long while since they are in that same spot if I remember it right, this team don't have that capabilities to compete with super teams and they are not doing anything to change that fate, the selection that they've got is not enough beating an ordinary squad what more facing SMC and Pangilinan group? Though they are still in the league, but maybe you are right, the chance of leaving the league is possible to happen if there's no improvement coming from this team.

They've been the Bossing 2.0 while the former has become a good team recently and stepping up since they've got plans of getting out of being stuck at the lowest.
This team has to go with the same experience until they realize that there's a need to change everything. I commend the Bossings when they've made meetings and talked about how and what they must do to get out of their former bad situation in standings. But for Terrafirma, we don't know if they're realizing it now.

I think they already realize their mistakes as they are in a long losing streak already. Maybe they just don't have the players that knows how to win, they are not inspired because this team is just a farm team and they know if someone step up, eventually he will be sent to a good team and they will struggle again.

They need to make changes as soon as possible if they don't want to be at the bottom. But I doubt that they will act on it, it's quite late already and they have to just bear with the situation that they're having right now. Maybe, you're right that they're not inspired and already represented what the team is all about from what the PBA fans have said, like being a farm team and they've landed on it already and don't care about those criticisms.