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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 16, 2022, 04:13:09 PM
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The game between Magnolia and Northport is already over, there's still 5 minutes left but a 20 points lead by Magnolia is already big enough, Northport cannot make a big run already to win. I'm disappointed with this team, they have a good start IIRC but now they lose consecutive games already with huge margins.

previous game was against TNT, 117-93 loss.

The teamwork of Magnolia is something that gives them the advantage by looking with their stats today you can define how good they move the ball, With the import that really contributing so well Magnolia is again one of the top contender just hoping that they will not choke again and lose games in the next round, too early to tell if they will be able to move forward and possible to have another title match series.

SMB's import already made 11 points, that's very low compared to the import of Bay Area Dragons who dropped 39 big points in this game. We can really tell how important Fajardo is inside because he was present and healthy, he could certainly help his team to give a very competitive match.

Better luck next time "KA BEERMEN", make the right bounce back like what the Dragons just did.

  It's sad, although I'm an SMB supporter, it seems that Fajardo contributed more to the SMB team than their import. Isn't that like a slap to the

import of SMB, who seems like he was of no use to his team? But that's the way it is, there are times when the game is salty and it's bad luck,

and when you admit that your game stands like that, it's better to sit and just watch your teammates.

The import of SMB has been tested today, and it's only proves that he can't carry the team. I'm also a SMB fan but I got disappointed with how the team played today, not sure but I don't see any aggressions to anyone for any possible rally to come back instead they just let the lead to balloon..

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October 16, 2022, 08:34:04 PM
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The game between Magnolia and Northport is already over, there's still 5 minutes left but a 20 points lead by Magnolia is already big enough, Northport cannot make a big run already to win. I'm disappointed with this team, they have a good start IIRC but now they lose consecutive games already with huge margins.

previous game was against TNT, 117-93 loss.

The teamwork of Magnolia is something that gives them the advantage by looking with their stats today you can define how good they move the ball, With the import that really contributing so well Magnolia is again one of the top contender just hoping that they will not choke again and lose games in the next round, too early to tell if they will be able to move forward and possible to have another title match series.


The locals are doing great. The ball is well-distributed, and they execute their plays really well. Combine that with a great defense and offense coming from their import, and they are really off to a good start. They are still unbeaten and continuing their hot start. I wonder which team will give them their first loss in this conference. Their next game will be against Ginebra but with the way Ginebra is going right now, I doubt they will beat Magnolia. Maybe down the line when they face San Miguel or the bay area dragons.

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October 16, 2022, 10:13:26 PM
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SMB's import already made 11 points, that's very low compared to the import of Bay Area Dragons who dropped 39 big points in this game. We can really tell how important Fajardo is inside because he was present and healthy, he could certainly help his team to give a very competitive match.

Better luck next time "KA BEERMEN", make the right bounce back like what the Dragons just did.

Yes, better luck next time, and we know that SMB is a good team and they will bounce back for sure, so watch out for their next game and don't miss betting on them. On the mean time, let's enjoy the 2nd game, so far Magnolia is controlling the game with a big lead, I'm afraid we will again see another one sided game tonight, that would make it a boring night overall.

We can trust them on that, they'll be playing against the NLEX next game, I think it's just a light opponent for them, so even without JMF, I believe they'll be able to manage to win. JMF might be missing few games before he will come back, his teammates has to play harder in order to still be in the playoff race.

I'm a bit disappointed with the Beermen, but yeah, without JMF they will have a hard time winning games. I thought that it's going to be close but they were blown away by the Bay Area Dragons.

And it just shows the JMF is still the heart and soul of the team, without him, they will be struggling. The good news is that he might be back before playoff but they still need to win some games without JMF.

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October 16, 2022, 10:14:13 PM
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The import of SMB has been tested today, and it's only proves that he can't carry the team. I'm also a SMB fan but I got disappointed with how the team played today, not sure but I don't see any aggressions to anyone for any possible rally to come back instead they just let the lead to balloon..

There's an attempt to make a rally but the Bay Area Dragons are just successful in maintaining their lead.

The Dragons have a strong message after winning the game against SMB about their 1st defeat since playing in the country, "We learned from that loss which was nice to see and we got better against a quality team,” and that fuels their eagerness to beat another top team in the league which is San Miguel Beermen.

However, there should be no "what if" if Fajardo is there for the SMB.

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October 16, 2022, 11:50:50 PM
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I'm a bit disappointed with the Beermen, but yeah, without JMF they will have a hard time winning games. I thought that it's going to be close but they were blown away by the Bay Area Dragons.

Playing against the Bay Area Dragons, the lineup should be complete and healthy. It's hard to deal with this guest team especially if the main guy of their opposing team is not present. It's unfortunate that we didn't see JuneMar Fajardo playing against the Dragons to see if SMB can also keep up with this team.

Not just against Bay Area Dragons but SMB will have a hard time dealing with other teams too if there's no JMF presence on their roster.

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October 17, 2022, 08:26:08 AM
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The import of SMB has been tested today, and it's only proves that he can't carry the team. I'm also a SMB fan but I got disappointed with how the team played today, not sure but I don't see any aggressions to anyone for any possible rally to come back instead they just let the lead to balloon..

There's an attempt to make a rally but the Bay Area Dragons are just successful in maintaining their lead.

The Dragons have a strong message after winning the game against SMB about their 1st defeat since playing in the country, "We learned from that loss which was nice to see and we got better against a quality team,” and that fuels their eagerness to beat another top team in the league which is San Miguel Beermen.



Maybe that kind of attempt is not enough to change the tempo of the game but I agree with you, Bay Area really did well in controlling the game and not to allow SMB to spark up and see a good opening to rally back. The visiting team accepted the challenge after that loss from Ginebra, Nicholson gave them a reason to keep him since after that loss we discuss here if they needed to bring Powell back and the guy simply prove that he's also a caliber former NBA player who are capable in taking the challenges.

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Well said! "there's no what if", if Fajardo is playing as a fan I know how big the difference if Junemar is in the rotation as we all know that he's the main Alpha of this team, with him there's a good inside post-up that SMB can go either he go hard or just create enough space and make a jump shot.


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October 17, 2022, 11:42:59 AM
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I'm a bit disappointed with the Beermen, but yeah, without JMF they will have a hard time winning games. I thought that it's going to be close but they were blown away by the Bay Area Dragons.

Playing against the Bay Area Dragons, the lineup should be complete and healthy. It's hard to deal with this guest team especially if the main guy of their opposing team is not present. It's unfortunate that we didn't see JuneMar Fajardo playing against the Dragons to see if SMB can also keep up with this team.

Not just against Bay Area Dragons but SMB will have a hard time dealing with other teams too if there's no JMF presence on their roster.

Without JMF, you cannot expect SMB to be a champion, when JMF was injured in the past and missed a few seasons, SMB did not reach the finals because they cannot do it without their MVP, good thing now that Fajardo will not miss the whole conference, he will be back so their chance is still here.



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October 17, 2022, 12:07:29 PM
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I'm a bit disappointed with the Beermen, but yeah, without JMF they will have a hard time winning games. I thought that it's going to be close but they were blown away by the Bay Area Dragons.

Playing against the Bay Area Dragons, the lineup should be complete and healthy. It's hard to deal with this guest team especially if the main guy of their opposing team is not present. It's unfortunate that we didn't see JuneMar Fajardo playing against the Dragons to see if SMB can also keep up with this team.

Not just against Bay Area Dragons but SMB will have a hard time dealing with other teams too if there's no JMF presence on their roster.

Without JMF, you cannot expect SMB to be a champion, when JMF was injured in the past and missed a few seasons, SMB did not reach the finals because they cannot do it without their MVP, good thing now that Fajardo will not miss the whole conference, he will be back so their chance is still here.
JunmarFajardo has a big role in his team also he is the number 1 carrier for SMB so without a doubt he will be the one can defend in his team from other team's and for their fight against Bay area dragon as we can saw that SMB struggle a lot which no veteran big man inside while Bay Area Dragons has 7 foot 5 which they can't stop because fajardo is not in the court. Like what you said mate SMB can not take the championship without fajardo.

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October 17, 2022, 12:56:49 PM
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The game between Magnolia and Northport is already over, there's still 5 minutes left but a 20 points lead by Magnolia is already big enough, Northport cannot make a big run already to win. I'm disappointed with this team, they have a good start IIRC but now they lose consecutive games already with huge margins.

previous game was against TNT, 117-93 loss.

The teamwork of Magnolia is something that gives them the advantage by looking with their stats today you can define how good they move the ball, With the import that really contributing so well Magnolia is again one of the top contender just hoping that they will not choke again and lose games in the next round, too early to tell if they will be able to move forward and possible to have another title match series.


That's their strength, they trust each other that's why they formed a good bond or chemistry. Their import is also very efficient, maybe not as good as Brownlee, but he was able to blend well with the locals, that's why they are very successful now.

Some people are saying that Magnolia are only good at the start, hopefully Magnolia will not fail us this time.

per standing, they are the only team left without a defeat, 5-0 now.
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October 17, 2022, 01:03:49 PM
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They already made the right adjustment, what do you think would happen if they'll ever face Ginebra again? would you still bet on Ginebra to win? SMB is missing Fajardo, so they can make an excuse for their big loss. I know the Dragons are for real, but so far they only beat a good team that is undermanned.

If i were to answer this question then it depends on what will be the spread/handicap because Ginebra has beaten them then i think the bookies will not put a wide margin for the Dragons I supposed then it would be good to bet for the Dragons because like you said they already adjusted and for sure Justin Brownlee is a marked guy for the Dragons.

Will they meet again? Sorry for asking but I don't know if the guest team is qualified to be the champion at this conference.
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October 17, 2022, 01:07:20 PM
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I think SMB is going to replace their current import.

This news just came out,
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According to a team insider, Devon Scott has been tapped by the Beermen to replace Diamond Stone heading to a crucial stretch in their mid-season campaign.

My opinion here is, I think it's the right decision as Diamond Stone was inefficient on their game against the Dragon, they need an import who could carry the team, not the import that would be carried by the locals.  Smiley

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October 17, 2022, 09:29:06 PM
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I think SMB is going to replace their current import.

This news just came out,
https://pba.ph/news/beermen-tap-scott-to-replace-stone
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According to a team insider, Devon Scott has been tapped by the Beermen to replace Diamond Stone heading to a crucial stretch in their mid-season campaign.

My opinion here is, I think it's the right decision as Diamond Stone was inefficient on their game against the Dragon, they need an import who could carry the team, not the import that would be carried by the locals.  Smiley
Watching his previous games, I agree that Stone didn’t perform well as an import which he should be on that spot since it’s the best time for imports to contribute. This might be a great move for SMB but I’m not sure if Scott is good, need to see his game first again. SMB should be able to fill the spot of JMF, that can be a crucial decision for them and SMB have to stay compose if they really want to go into the next round.
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October 17, 2022, 11:36:07 PM
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Sorry for asking but I don't know if the guest team is qualified to be the champion at this conference.

That's my question too before and I think someone raised that question here.

I think they are eligible to win the championship this conference and if that happened, that's the first time we will see a non-Filipino champion in a Filipino basketball league lol. With SMB losing recently against the Dragons, their chance of meeting up again will be after eliminations, maybe in quarterfinals, semis, and Finals.

I read an article before that Kume Marcial said that Bay Area Dragons were eligible for the championship in Governors Cup. PBA right now is currently running the Commissioners Cup so I will assume the same eligibility applied.

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October 17, 2022, 11:46:23 PM
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Most probably the guest team will not win the championship.The own ground team made a dominating playing against the guest team.If this happened so,it will be the history making match.I had huge eager to see that match for sure.SMB loss with the Dragons was unexpected one from the SMB team.So now all the team will focus on the Dragons.They will try to eliminate the dragons in all the qualifiers stage.Hope it will not affect the game of Dragons.

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October 18, 2022, 02:56:53 AM
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Will they meet again? Sorry for asking but I don't know if the guest team is qualified to be the champion at this conference.
In one article that has been posted by Rappler (even though I hate them for how bias they are), Kume Marcial already said that:
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Marcial said Bay Area will be eligible to win the Governors’ Cup championship.
The one thing that the Dragons are ineligible are the individual awards, I guess.

I'm a bit disappointed with the Beermen, but yeah, without JMF they will have a hard time winning games. I thought that it's going to be close but they were blown away by the Bay Area Dragons.

And it just shows the JMF is still the heart and soul of the team, without him, they will be struggling. The good news is that he might be back before playoff but they still need to win some games without JMF.

A bit disappointed but at the same time, they have been exposed by the Dragons.

I don't want to judge just because of one game but it only shows that not having Fajardo playing have a huge impact towards the performance of the whole team. Now with Stone being replaced by a new import, Scott, I don't know how will the Beermen play on their next game because aside from JMF not playing, the chemistry might be affected because of this new import but nevertheless, it's a good move by them because Stone didn't play well on their last game though he played well in the last 2.

Adjustments will be made by the Beermen that's for sure. Coach Leo is a very good coach, and he also has very good players. Now that Fajardo expects to come back in the playoffs, this might affect their standings in the elimination. I just hope that even though JMF will not play, they will end up in the top 4 spot.

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Most probably the guest team will not win the championship.The own ground team made a dominating playing against the guest team.If this happened so,it will be the history making match.I had huge eager to see that match for sure.SMB loss with the Dragons was unexpected one from the SMB team.So now all the team will focus on the Dragons.They will try to eliminate the dragons in all the qualifiers stage.Hope it will not affect the game of Dragons.
Every team wants to win, they'll not only play to defeat the Dragons, but they also have only a main mission which is to win the championship. Dragons are just a good team, but so far not the best team based on what I've witnessed so far. I like to believe that if JMF was there, SMB surely have a decent chance of winning.

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October 18, 2022, 07:24:33 AM
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Most probably the guest team will not win the championship.The own ground team made a dominating playing against the guest team.If this happened so,it will be the history making match.I had huge eager to see that match for sure.SMB loss with the Dragons was unexpected one from the SMB team.So now all the team will focus on the Dragons.They will try to eliminate the dragons in all the qualifiers stage.Hope it will not affect the game of Dragons.
Every team wants to win, they'll not only play to defeat the Dragons, but they also have only a main mission which is to win the championship. Dragons are just a good team, but so far not the best team based on what I've witnessed so far. I like to believe that if JMF was there, SMB surely have a decent chance of winning.

Let us not anymore discuss the game between SMB and Dragons if we will only think they win because JMF is not there, the same thing with Ginebra when they defeated the Dragons, Dragons were still in a transition period at that time, so they have a chemistry problem.

Let's just hope that everyone will come back healthy again, especially the star players so we will see a more entertaining game, like a close game.

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October 18, 2022, 12:59:48 PM
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Most probably the guest team will not win the championship.The own ground team made a dominating playing against the guest team.If this happened so,it will be the history making match.I had huge eager to see that match for sure.SMB loss with the Dragons was unexpected one from the SMB team.So now all the team will focus on the Dragons.They will try to eliminate the dragons in all the qualifiers stage.Hope it will not affect the game of Dragons.
Every team wants to win, they'll not only play to defeat the Dragons, but they also have only a main mission which is to win the championship. Dragons are just a good team, but so far not the best team based on what I've witnessed so far. I like to believe that if JMF was there, SMB surely have a decent chance of winning.

Let us not anymore discuss the game between SMB and Dragons if we will only think they win because JMF is not there, the same thing with Ginebra when they defeated the Dragons, Dragons were still in a transition period at that time, so they have a chemistry problem.

Let's just hope that everyone will come back healthy again, especially the star players so we will see a more entertaining game, like a close game.

Expect everything will be in place when the next round approach, a single round elimination, right? I'm expecting to see a good competition when the game is nearing to the semis, everyone will be at their best for sure, just like what you mentioned, lets forget about the visiting team's performance against both SMB and Ginebra, we won't be able to change the outcome as it was done, moving forward for their next game is more appropriate to discuss and how they will push their chase in winning the crown.

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October 18, 2022, 02:59:42 PM
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Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

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October 19, 2022, 03:15:49 AM
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Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.
The current losing streak of TerraFirma is 25 and the longest is 29 by Blackwater bossing.

The next 3 games of TerraFirma are against Bay Area, Ginebra and TNT. I'm pretty sure that they will not win against Bay Area (and many will agree with me). TNT? I don't think so as well, but they might against Ginebra who lost twice against ROS and Phoenix which are both independent teams but if they lose, the streak will continue, and it will be 28 after that.

After that, it will be NorthPort, NLEX, SMB and their final game is against Phoenix. TBH, it's hard to imagine which team where TerraFirma has a chance to win after how they are playing this conference. Yes, Prosper is a legit import but the problem is the local players. There is lack of support coming from them even though Prosper is getting at least 20-20 per game. I agree with you that it's good to see a foreigner like him trying to learn Tagalog words and supporting other players like Kai Sotto. I might watch his video if he will try to eat some exotic PH foods like "balut" for example Cheesy.

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