2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Fredomago]

Now that the Bay Area has been exposed they have to think back if they needed to bring Powell back, Nicholson is good, but PBA super teams also have Big men who can help in protecting the boards and play tough defense.

Nicholson still have 3 games to play before the Dragons can choose which between Powell and Nicholson they will want to continue the conference with. Right now, Powell is looking good to continue but I am not shutting Nicholson yet. It was his first game with the Dragons and there might be jitters still and they are in the adjustment period.  I want to see him perform against San Miguel first. If he really cannot carry his team, then it is better for Powell to resume back.

I don't know if it's just a timing for changing their import while they will be facing a much stronger squad, though I really expect that they are not really that good sorry but it's my personal take for this visiting team, NP almost beats them though that new squad is now composed of good role players who can help Bolic and the import to compete.

But moving back, Ginebra gives them a good basis on how other super team can be like. If TNT will play solid, I'm also seeing another loss for the visiting team. Castro, Poguy and Williams will again tower the team with the help of their import.

Looking to see some good adjustments from the visiting team after that game against the crowd's favorite Brgy Ginebra.

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[Scripture]

Alright, Ginebra beat the Bay Area Dragons! It's now only Magnolia that hasn't lost any game and the Dragons have already 1 lost one for this conference.
I don't know but why it seems that we are all celebrating just this 1 win against the Bay Area Dragons. I think that our minds are collaborating and really want them to lose to any team. This is a boost for the Ginkings and as well as for the other teams that these Dragons won't always be as what we're expecting to be.

That's a Pinoy pride who always want to win, probably to prove to foreign team that we are good in basketball.
Bay Area will face more bigger team and I believe this will not be the last meet up for Ginebra and Bay Area, they can still have a good match in the semi-finals which I still see Bay Area as a one of good team to be on that spot. Magnolia have to be more active this time, many teams are aiming to defeat Magnolia, this is an exciting conference, so much surprises. 

[Yamifoud]

Congratulations to the Ginebra Gin Kings, that wasn't the game that we are expecting, the absence of Myles Powell was really huge for the team, and hopefully they will learn that Ginebra is not an easy team to beat, it's just a happy night for me as I also won my bet on this game.

With Blankley not hitting his 3-pointers and the other outside shooters not getting their usual output, they really miss the production of Myles Powell. I think they missed 19 3-pointers at least. Without Powell creating outside or driving inside to draw defenders, they have a hard time getting their output. We can also consider that the Dragons are adjusting to their new import thus resulting in their poor performance. That poor performance was taken advantage of by Ginebra who performed very well.

Congratulations to Ginebra backers. It's payday for them. If they caught the @4 odds, it's quite a big win.

Myles Powell is a huge factor for their success, he is not only in charge of the offense but also creating a play for his teammates. Well, no excuse because they also have an import, but it was his first game so probably the fatigue factor is still their and the lack of familiarity is one reason.

[blockman]

Alright, Ginebra beat the Bay Area Dragons! It's now only Magnolia that hasn't lost any game and the Dragons have already 1 lost one for this conference.
I don't know but why it seems that we are all celebrating just this 1 win against the Bay Area Dragons. I think that our minds are collaborating and really want them to lose to any team. This is a boost for the Ginkings and as well as for the other teams that these Dragons won't always be as what we're expecting to be.

That's a Pinoy pride who always want to win, probably to prove to foreign team that we are good in basketball.
Bay Area will face more bigger team and I believe this will not be the last meet up for Ginebra and Bay Area, they can still have a good match in the semi-finals which I still see Bay Area as a one of good team to be on that spot. Magnolia have to be more active this time, many teams are aiming to defeat Magnolia, this is an exciting conference, so much surprises. 

Bay Area Dragons is a strong team and that's why there's pride in it that the Ginkings were able to beat them. More games to come and the next match of BAD will be against the Beermen. Well, this is another expected team that will beat them.
It's like that the fans always talk about the BAD instead of talking about the other teams because it's something new in the league and we want to see more of them and there's that rumor that they've signed a 10-year contract to PBA.

[Fredomago]

Alright, Ginebra beat the Bay Area Dragons! It's now only Magnolia that hasn't lost any game and the Dragons have already 1 lost one for this conference.
I don't know but why it seems that we are all celebrating just this 1 win against the Bay Area Dragons. I think that our minds are collaborating and really want them to lose to any team. This is a boost for the Ginkings and as well as for the other teams that these Dragons won't always be as what we're expecting to be.

That's a Pinoy pride who always want to win, probably to prove to foreign team that we are good in basketball.
Bay Area will face more bigger team and I believe this will not be the last meet up for Ginebra and Bay Area, they can still have a good match in the semi-finals which I still see Bay Area as a one of good team to be on that spot. Magnolia have to be more active this time, many teams are aiming to defeat Magnolia, this is an exciting conference, so much surprises. 

Bay Area Dragons is a strong team and that's why there's pride in it that the Ginkings were able to beat them. More games to come and the next match of BAD will be against the Beermen. Well, this is another expected team that will beat them.
It's like that the fans always talk about the BAD instead of talking about the other teams because it's something new in the league and we want to see more of them and there's that rumor that they've signed a 10-year contract to PBA.

Wow, that's a possible long-term participation though it's just a rumor, but there's always a fire when there's a smoke, right? Who knows, they are cooking something but I'm concerned once they also noticed how PBA was being controlled and manipulated by the bosses of PBA's might be a change in directions when they will feel the unbalance treatment within the league.

Though, let's talk about that when the rumors became reality. For now, just focus on the remaining games and how they will be competing with solid squads.

[blockman]

Bay Area Dragons is a strong team and that's why there's pride in it that the Ginkings were able to beat them. More games to come and the next match of BAD will be against the Beermen. Well, this is another expected team that will beat them.
It's like that the fans always talk about the BAD instead of talking about the other teams because it's something new in the league and we want to see more of them and there's that rumor that they've signed a 10-year contract to PBA.

Wow, that's a possible long-term participation though it's just a rumor, but there's always a fire when there's a smoke, right? Who knows, they are cooking something but I'm concerned once they also noticed how PBA was being controlled and manipulated by the bosses of PBA's might be a change in directions when they will feel the unbalance treatment within the league.

Though, let's talk about that when the rumors became reality. For now, just focus on the remaining games and how they will be competing with solid squads.

Yes, possibly long-term if the rumor is true. But there's no official news yet about it and it's said that they're staying in a luxury hotel. So, we can imagine the budget for this team if their lodging is in a luxury hotel and the contract that they have is very long.
I'd like that to happen so that the PBA will stop the dominance of just 2-3 teams every conference because it's no longer healthy. It's always a farm game and farm teams emerging the league having only those teams that have strong players and always winning those trades because of this norm on them.

[jakelyson]

Wow, that's a possible long-term participation though it's just a rumor, but there's always a fire when there's a smoke, right? Who knows, they are cooking something but I'm concerned once they also noticed how PBA was being controlled and manipulated by the bosses of PBA's might be a change in directions when they will feel the unbalance treatment within the league.

Though, let's talk about that when the rumors became reality. For now, just focus on the remaining games and how they will be competing with solid squads.

It is a welcome development actually if ever this rumor will come true. It is not deniable that it is more exciting if there are strong teams that can compete with SMC or MVP teams. PBA is becoming stale because we only see the same sister teams dominating the league. The first time I saw how strong the Dragons are, I got excited to watch them play against strong PBA teams.

And it could even be better if there are more guest teams that can join PBA. It won't become so predictable anymore because of the strong guest teams.

it's said that they're staying in a luxury hotel. So, we can imagine the budget for this team if their lodging is in a luxury hotel and the contract that they have is very long.

Maybe not a whole year but a single conference for 10 years. Like they will be joining PBA every Commissioner's cup only. That is feasible. It is already expensive to maintain a local ball club, I guess, it will be triple the expense if you are housing your team in a luxury hotel. They also have to rent gyms for practices and the meals of the players. Imagine the expense they will incur if it will be for a whole year.

Maybe the PBA observed that the Bay Area Dragon has sparked the curiosity of the fans to watch PBA again, so these rumors are coming out. Let's wait if ever this will come true.

[crzy]

Bay Area Dragons is a strong team and that's why there's pride in it that the Ginkings were able to beat them. More games to come and the next match of BAD will be against the Beermen. Well, this is another expected team that will beat them.
It's like that the fans always talk about the BAD instead of talking about the other teams because it's something new in the league and we want to see more of them and there's that rumor that they've signed a 10-year contract to PBA.

That is just a rumor and a 10 years contract is quiet long, but I really think this can be a good development for PBA for letting a foreign team to participate and let the local teams experience playing with the BAD. They are good and that’s why many wants to beat them, SMB will be the next game for them let’s see if BAD will bounce back and claim the top spot again.

[blockman]

it's said that they're staying in a luxury hotel. So, we can imagine the budget for this team if their lodging is in a luxury hotel and the contract that they have is very long.

Maybe not a whole year but a single conference for 10 years. Like they will be joining PBA every Commissioner's cup only. That is feasible. It is already expensive to maintain a local ball club, I guess, it will be triple the expense if you are housing your team in a luxury hotel. They also have to rent gyms for practices and the meals of the players. Imagine the expense they will incur if it will be for a whole year.

An offshore/guest team can handle the finances as they're known to have a stronger currency than us. They've got a budget and it's a lot for them to have its mainstay in the PBA for so long so, I'm sure that they can really do that.

Maybe the PBA observed that the Bay Area Dragon has sparked the curiosity of the fans to watch PBA again, so these rumors are coming out. Let's wait if ever this will come true.

In online presence, probably. But on the court and actual audience, they've witnessed it that it's not that much.

Bay Area Dragons is a strong team and that's why there's pride in it that the Ginkings were able to beat them. More games to come and the next match of BAD will be against the Beermen. Well, this is another expected team that will beat them.
It's like that the fans always talk about the BAD instead of talking about the other teams because it's something new in the league and we want to see more of them and there's that rumor that they've signed a 10-year contract to PBA.

That is just a rumor and a 10 years contract is quiet long, but I really think this can be a good development for PBA for letting a foreign team to participate and let the local teams experience playing with the BAD. They are good and that’s why many wants to beat them, SMB will be the next game for them let’s see if BAD will bounce back and claim the top spot again.

Yes, a rumor and waiting for it to be officially announced if it's real but if not then at least we have heard it if it's actual or not.

[samcrypto]

Bay Area Dragons is a strong team and that's why there's pride in it that the Ginkings were able to beat them. More games to come and the next match of BAD will be against the Beermen. Well, this is another expected team that will beat them.
It's like that the fans always talk about the BAD instead of talking about the other teams because it's something new in the league and we want to see more of them and there's that rumor that they've signed a 10-year contract to PBA.

That is just a rumor and a 10 years contract is quiet long, but I really think this can be a good development for PBA for letting a foreign team to participate and let the local teams experience playing with the BAD. They are good and that’s why many wants to beat them, SMB will be the next game for them let’s see if BAD will bounce back and claim the top spot again.

Yes, a rumor and waiting for it to be officially announced if it's real but if not then at least we have heard it if it's actual or not.

We will see if this rumor is true or not once Bay Area team able to enter the Finals, but I'm sure PBA will always enter into a contract that will in favor the system and with this, we area welcome for this progress. Any rumor for other foreign team to participate in the next conference?
Anyway, Bay Area should focus more for their next game it will be another hard game for sure and they have to activate all their players this time or else they will taste another loss again.

[agustina2]

I hope that the Dragons' defeat will now change the mindset of others that this team is unstoppable. Ginebra critics become silent when in pre-game, they are already throwing words to Ginebra that it's now another win for the Dragons.

The game is fairly done, with not many wrong calls and controversies. Good job Ginebra for shutting down those people who don't like the team. 

[Questat]

I hope that the Dragons' defeat will now change the mindset of others that this team is unstoppable. Ginebra critics become silent when in pre-game, they are already throwing words to Ginebra that it's now another win for the Dragons.

The game is fairly done, with not many wrong calls and controversies. Good job Ginebra for shutting down those people who don't like the team. 

Without Myles Powell, this Dragon will easily be slayed by other team. The game against Ginebra wasn't fair IMO, I mean as a fan I'm not satisfied as I like to see if they can stop the Dragon with Myles Powell. It's a fair playing ground, otherwise, this guest team would not be accepted in the PBA.

[LogitechMouse]

I hope that the Dragons' defeat will now change the mindset of others that this team is unstoppable. Ginebra critics become silent when in pre-game, they are already throwing words to Ginebra that it's now another win for the Dragons.

The game is fairly done, with not many wrong calls and controversies. Good job Ginebra for shutting down those people who don't like the team. 

In an interview with the Dragons' Coach, he said that Coach Tim Cone is a very respectable coach, and that loss is also a learning to the team as well so...maybe expect a better Dragons in their next game. That game especially in the first half was a fast-paced game with many fastbreaks. I still think that the Dragons didn't expect how better the Ginebra was compared to their last 4 games, and they didn't have time to adjust thus, they lost.

Their next game will be the SMB who is in a 2-game winning streak, and they got a really good point guard as well in Stone. A team who is hungry for revenge after having their first loss versus a team who is in a winning streak.

[Kelvinid]

I hope that the Dragons' defeat will now change the mindset of others that this team is unstoppable. Ginebra critics become silent when in pre-game, they are already throwing words to Ginebra that it's now another win for the Dragons.

The game is fairly done, with not many wrong calls and controversies. Good job Ginebra for shutting down those people who don't like the team. 

In an interview with the Dragons' Coach, he said that Coach Tim Cone is a very respectable coach, and that loss is also a learning to the team as well so...maybe expect a better Dragons in their next game. That game especially in the first half was a fast-paced game with many fastbreaks. I still think that the Dragons didn't expect how better the Ginebra was compared to their last 4 games, and they didn't have time to adjust thus, they lost.

Their next game will be the SMB who is in a 2-game winning streak, and they got a really good point guard as well in Stone. A team who is hungry for revenge after having their first loss versus a team who is in a winning streak.

The Dragon did not get a good production from their import unlike what Myles Powell did in the past few games. That was a big factor that resulted to a loss, if they will not make an adjustment, most likely SMB will still dominate then like what Ginebra did to them, so we should not be surprise if that will happen again.

[Natalim]

I hope that the Dragons' defeat will now change the mindset of others that this team is unstoppable. Ginebra critics become silent when in pre-game, they are already throwing words to Ginebra that it's now another win for the Dragons.

The game is fairly done, with not many wrong calls and controversies. Good job Ginebra for shutting down those people who don't like the team. 

In an interview with the Dragons' Coach, he said that Coach Tim Cone is a very respectable coach, and that loss is also a learning to the team as well so...maybe expect a better Dragons in their next game. That game especially in the first half was a fast-paced game with many fastbreaks. I still think that the Dragons didn't expect how better the Ginebra was compared to their last 4 games, and they didn't have time to adjust thus, they lost.

Their next game will be the SMB who is in a 2-game winning streak, and they got a really good point guard as well in Stone. A team who is hungry for revenge after having their first loss versus a team who is in a winning streak.

The Dragon did not get a good production from their import unlike what Myles Powell did in the past few games. That was a big factor that resulted to a loss, if they will not make an adjustment, most likely SMB will still dominate then like what Ginebra did to them, so we should not be surprise if that will happen again.

For those who are missing Myles Powell, don't worry, there's still a chance that he will be back if the current import of Bay Area Dragons will not perform as expected, here's the article for that.

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/powell-sees-bay-areas-switch-to-nicholson-as-chance-for-other-guards-to-prove-worth/251767

After utilizing the high-scoring guard in its first four games, the squad will now go with the 6-foot-10 center until its eighth match of the mid-season conference before choosing who to stick with for the rest of the campaign.

[Fredomago]

I hope that the Dragons' defeat will now change the mindset of others that this team is unstoppable. Ginebra critics become silent when in pre-game, they are already throwing words to Ginebra that it's now another win for the Dragons.

The game is fairly done, with not many wrong calls and controversies. Good job Ginebra for shutting down those people who don't like the team. 

In an interview with the Dragons' Coach, he said that Coach Tim Cone is a very respectable coach, and that loss is also a learning to the team as well so...maybe expect a better Dragons in their next game. That game especially in the first half was a fast-paced game with many fastbreaks. I still think that the Dragons didn't expect how better the Ginebra was compared to their last 4 games, and they didn't have time to adjust thus, they lost.

Their next game will be the SMB who is in a 2-game winning streak, and they got a really good point guard as well in Stone. A team who is hungry for revenge after having their first loss versus a team who is in a winning streak.

SMB will be adding more pressure to the visiting team, though for sure they are now expecting heavy competitions against the last season champ. I would like to see the locals to perform well. Just like how the Gin kings did, locals are very important both defense and offense, though Brownlee lead Gin kings with offense, but the teamwork is the factor that will win the game.

Looking for more coming from both SMB and Bay Area, let see who'll going to win with the adjustments. For sure SMB watches the game between the Gin kings and the Dragon, so they are now preparing while with the visiting team. Adjustment is very important.

[blockman]

Yes, a rumor and waiting for it to be officially announced if it's real but if not then at least we have heard it if it's actual or not.

We will see if this rumor is true or not once Bay Area team able to enter the Finals, but I'm sure PBA will always enter into a contract that will in favor the system and with this, we area welcome for this progress. Any rumor for other foreign team to participate in the next conference?
Anyway, Bay Area should focus more for their next game it will be another hard game for sure and they have to activate all their players this time or else they will taste another loss again.

Everyone is welcome for this progress so that the management won't just stick to the system that they used to have for years. Most fans are already not satisfied with every time the PBA goes on the finals because we know what will be the outcome of it.
And having Bay Area Dragons changed everything and is making most of the teams to be more competitive as ever. But I think that the farm teams will remain on their focus to be a farm team but we will see such changes that shall motivate each team and for the management to be better.

[jakelyson]

it's said that they're staying in a luxury hotel. So, we can imagine the budget for this team if their lodging is in a luxury hotel and the contract that they have is very long.

Maybe not a whole year but a single conference for 10 years. Like they will be joining PBA every Commissioner's cup only. That is feasible. It is already expensive to maintain a local ball club, I guess, it will be triple the expense if you are housing your team in a luxury hotel. They also have to rent gyms for practices and the meals of the players. Imagine the expense they will incur if it will be for a whole year.

An offshore/guest team can handle the finances as they're known to have a stronger currency than us. They've got a budget and it's a lot for them to have its mainstay in the PBA for so long so, I'm sure that they can really do that.

It is still business though. Let's say for argument's sake that they can finance an extended period of stay here in the Philippines to play for PBA, do you think that the expense will justify the profit they can make from playing here? It is good for a single conference because the experience they get from playing here is invaluable. But for longer periods it is not justifiable anymore. They will be bleeding money with very little return. That is not good for business.

For those who are missing Myles Powell, don't worry, there's still a chance that he will be back if the current import of Bay Area Dragons will not perform as expected, here's the article for that.

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/powell-sees-bay-areas-switch-to-nicholson-as-chance-for-other-guards-to-prove-worth/251767

After utilizing the high-scoring guard in its first four games, the squad will now go with the 6-foot-10 center until its eighth match of the mid-season conference before choosing who to stick with for the rest of the campaign.

There is a high chance that Powell will be chosen over Nicholson after the eighth game. He gives more value to the Bay Area than Nicholson. It is evident in his first game. But we will see since the game against Ginebra was Nicholson's first game, it might just be jitters which is why the team did not perform well. They will face a strong team again in their next match. If Nicholson can carry the Dragons past San Miguel, he may still have a chance to stay as their import.

[Shamm]

I hope that the Dragons' defeat will now change the mindset of others that this team is unstoppable. Ginebra critics become silent when in pre-game, they are already throwing words to Ginebra that it's now another win for the Dragons.

The game is fairly done, with not many wrong calls and controversies. Good job Ginebra for shutting down those people who don't like the team. 

Without Myles Powell, this Dragon will easily be slayed by other team. The game against Ginebra wasn't fair IMO, I mean as a fan I'm not satisfied as I like to see if they can stop the Dragon with Myles Powell. It's a fair playing ground, otherwise, this guest team would not be accepted in the PBA.

Yes you are right that mate without myles Powell this team bay area dragons are not the strongest team it is easily beat by our local team as we all know that during the days when myles Powell is in Bay Area dragon the best teamwork is there and another thing is when myles handle the ball for sure the ball will be passed to the open teammates but now this team without him are easy to lose by our local team's.

[blockman]

An offshore/guest team can handle the finances as they're known to have a stronger currency than us. They've got a budget and it's a lot for them to have its mainstay in the PBA for so long so, I'm sure that they can really do that.

It is still business though. Let's say for argument's sake that they can finance an extended period of stay here in the Philippines to play for PBA, do you think that the expense will justify the profit they can make from playing here? It is good for a single conference because the experience they get from playing here is invaluable. But for longer periods it is not justifiable anymore. They will be bleeding money with very little return. That is not good for business.

You're point, if it's about the experience, there can be other better places to join instead of having their team into PBA. I think one factor that they can lean on is that PBA is the oldest league in Asia and that's why they're willing to spend as much as they can.
But from a business perspective, you're telling it correctly. If there's no way for them to profit and get some returns out of their expenses and capital for supporting the team and staying in the league then they're not willing to spend that much.