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November 17, 2019, 11:12:32 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, the bottom 4 teams of the conference will be elimanated right? And top 4 teams will having be the advantage of twice to beat?
And bottom 4 teams has already their max games which is total 11 games and I think the current 4 bottom teams now has no more chance to get in playoffs.

Yesterday games was really amazing and exciting especially the game of RainOrShine against Meralco Bolts, a sweet comeback.

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November 17, 2019, 11:20:08 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, the bottom 4 teams of the conference will be elimanated right? And top 4 teams will having be the advantage of twice to beat?
And bottom 4 teams has already their max games which is total 11 games and I think the current 4 bottom teams now has no more chance to get in playoffs.

Yesterday games was really amazing and exciting especially the game of RainOrShine against Meralco Bolts, a sweet comeback.

That's how the league goes, the current bottom four teams are surely to be eliminated. Since they have played the max 11 games they have no chance to climb up the standings. I think if the league will not change its ruling with regards to trading players, this current bottom four will not be able to rank up in their standings even in the upcoming conferences.

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November 17, 2019, 11:27:10 PM
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That's how the league goes, the current bottom four teams are surely to be eliminated.

I can't find the exact rules but what I heard from the commentators is that, when there is a tie in the number 8 spot, the teams will have to play and whoever wins will get the last spot.

The win over the other might also apply in this conference, so if there's a tie in the upper rank and if the team win over the other, they will take the higher spot.

Since they have played the max 11 games they have no chance to climb up the standings. I think if the league will not change its ruling with regards to trading players, this current bottom four will not be able to rank up in their standings even in the upcoming conferences.

The battle will be among the Alaska, Rain or Shine,  and Columbian DYIP, but if the Alaska will win in their last game, it would be the Columbian DYIP and ROS that are going to play again, I guess.

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The battle will be among the Alaska, Rain or Shine,  and Columbian DYIP, but if the Alaska will win in their last game, it would be the Columbian DYIP and ROS that are going to play again, I guess.

Have heard the news on TV that even if Alaska Aces would lose it's final game, still ROS would be eliminated because of the quotient system.



Another bad news on the PBA, specially to the SMB fans here. This may affect their campaign for a grand slam this season, hope they will iron things out before it's too late.

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November 18, 2019, 11:13:22 AM
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The battle will be among the Alaska, Rain or Shine,  and Columbian DYIP, but if the Alaska will win in their last game, it would be the Columbian DYIP and ROS that are going to play again, I guess.

Have heard the news on TV that even if Alaska Aces would lose it's final game, still ROS would be eliminated because of the quotient system.

its no bearing for Alaska then but with their ranking in the last spot, I think this is a good rank since they will be facing the NLEX in the playoffs which I think they have a chance compared to facing the Meralco Bolts, its a twice to beat disadvantage to them but Alaska has good playoff experience compared to NLEX.




Another bad news on the PBA, specially to the SMB fans here. This may affect their campaign for a grand slam this season, hope they will iron things out before it's too late.

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San Miguel turmoil worsens as Dez Wells, locals fight in practice

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So it could mean that Wells will not anymore play in the remaining games?

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November 18, 2019, 12:26:31 PM
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Another bad news on the PBA, specially to the SMB fans here. This may affect their campaign for a grand slam this season, hope they will iron things out before it's too late.

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San Miguel turmoil worsens as Dez Wells, locals fight in practice

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This makes them less prepare, this incident needs to solve as quick as they can. The management of SMB should implement the solution in order for the entire team not being affected and continue seeking for the win.

Still have the chance to grab the final 4 seat they need to focus and clean this up, for those other players they need to adjust and forget about this fight and keep playing with their best.
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November 18, 2019, 01:46:24 PM
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Still have the chance to grab the final 4 seat they need to focus and clean this up, for those other players they need to adjust and forget about this fight and keep playing with their best.

Even if they will win in their last game, there is no chance that they will be in the top 4 because they will just tie the Ginebra San Miguel and based on the rules which is the win over the other, Ginebra will take the top 4 spot as they beat the San Miguel last October 13, 2019.

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I like to their spot now, SMB needs to win so we will see a great playoffs which Ginebra needs to lose twice for SMB to advance and I think this is a hard test for them as Ginebra will do everything to stay in the playoffs.

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November 18, 2019, 10:36:43 PM
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Still have the chance to grab the final 4 seat they need to focus and clean this up, for those other players they need to adjust and forget about this fight and keep playing with their best.

Even if they will win in their last game, there is no chance that they will be in the top 4 because they will just tie the Ginebra San Miguel and based on the rules which is the win over the other, Ginebra will take the top 4 spot as they beat the San Miguel last October 13, 2019.

This is the latest standings bro,

3. TNT Katropa 7-3
4. Ginebra 7-4
5. San Miguel 6-4

Tomorrow, SMB vs TNT will be played on the Ynarez Center, this would be their last game respectively. If TNT wins, they will take the 3rd place while if they lose, things would be complicated by then. Quotient system would be in effect for these 3 teams. SMB needs to beat TNT by x points for them to be in the twice to beat advantage spot. How much is that x, still unknown for me.



So it could mean that Wells will not anymore play in the remaining games?

This is remain to be seen as SMB is mum on this issue. Personally, i like Wells to be deported lol, just kidding, don't like imports who got attitude problem, they are always a problem to their teams, seen that regularly in the PBA.
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November 18, 2019, 11:16:18 PM
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This is remain to be seen as SMB is mum on this issue. Personally, i like Wells to be deported lol, just kidding, don't like imports who got attitude problem, they are always a problem to their teams, seen that regularly in the PBA.

The thing is they got problems at the later stage, if they only know that in the beginning, maybe they can find a suitable import for them.
it's a struggle for the SMB to get their grand slam, and if they loss in the elimination, I am pretty sure a lot of teams would be so happy.

Do you also notice how the Northport are doing so far?
I think they also have a shot to advance, I can't tell but I have a big feeling Stand would help this team.

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This is remain to be seen as SMB is mum on this issue. Personally, i like Wells to be deported lol, just kidding, don't like imports who got attitude problem, they are always a problem to their teams, seen that regularly in the PBA.

The thing is they got problems at the later stage, if they only know that in the beginning, maybe they can find a suitable import for them.
it's a struggle for the SMB to get their grand slam, and if they loss in the elimination, I am pretty sure a lot of teams would be so happy.

Agree, the road to grand slam is topsy turvy, rocky and rough for this SMB team. As a follower of PBA and a bettor, i like other teams to be playing in the Finals but as a fan of JMF15  Grin, i like him to experienced the grand slam before retiring in the PBA and this may be the right time for their team to do it.


Do you also notice how the Northport are doing so far?
I think they also have a shot to advance, I can't tell but I have a big feeling Stand would help this team.

NorthPort is on a high moral now with the addition of CStand but sad to see Bolick stalled due to injury. If only these two stars played together now, the probability of NorthPort advancing on the semi-finals is high as they also have a high scoring import. For now their chance is slim, i think.

Definitely CStand is a big help to any team except SMB  Smiley, because JMF is already there and trading SMB is a win-win situation for both SMB and CStand. The latter may not appreciate it at first but as time goes by, he will understand as he is intelligent.
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This is the latest standings bro,

3. TNT Katropa 7-3
4. Ginebra 7-4
5. San Miguel 6-4

Tomorrow, SMB vs TNT will be played on the Ynarez Center, this would be their last game respectively. If TNT wins, they will take the 3rd place while if they lose, things would be complicated by then. Quotient system would be in effect for these 3 teams. SMB needs to beat TNT by x points for them to be in the twice to beat advantage spot. How much is that x, still unknown for me.

If SMB will win this game, all three of them will have an identical 7-4 win-lose card but Ginebra will have a higher quotient since it beat TNT and SMB, so they will take the no.3 spot while SMB will occupy the no.4 spot as winner over the other will take effect in that case.

The question for SMB here is who will play as an import, Holland or Wells?
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November 19, 2019, 09:49:14 AM
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The question for SMB here is who will play as an import, Holland or Wells?

If they want to win, they will play Wells, I think at this time for sure there's already some reconciliation happening, otherwise their chance will be lesser to win. Tomorrow, SMB and TNT will play, this is a good match up but I think I would bet on the TNT since they are in a losing streak and they surely are working to break that losing streak and they need it to have the twice to beat advantage.

SMB has a problem inside, it could affect the upcoming game so its hard to trust them at this point where controversy arises within.

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November 19, 2019, 10:48:11 PM
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So the day has come, we will finally see what team will win, its gonna be SMB vs TNT scheduled @7pm tonight.

No line for this game yet but I'll definitely bet on the TNT once odds are displayed.

1st game is up, Alaska vs NLEX.
I think I would go with the underdog, Alaska is +5.5 as of this time, taking the ML as well.

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November 19, 2019, 11:48:52 PM
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SMB 2.26 vs TNT 1.59

^^ Amazing, isn't it? That's the odds for tonight's game between the Beermen and Katropa.

There is internal problem that SMB need to solve but i think they are professional enough to handle this so i will bet for them to win this very important game for them.

Reports said that if SMB will win by 14 or more they will be at the no.3 spot, but it does not matter, all they need is to win this one and besides Jason Castro is not available for the Katropa if i'm correct.

Bottom line, both teams are struggling the last few games, so the more focus and hungry will win this one.

My bet, SMB 2.26, have to stick to my instinct here.
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November 19, 2019, 11:51:20 PM
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1st game is up, Alaska vs NLEX.
I think I would go with the underdog, Alaska is +5.5 as of this time, taking the ML as well.

I like your courage to bet on Alaska at +5.5 and want to extend your expected profit by taking the Moneyline as well.

Goodluck on that bet.

So the day has come, we will finally see what team will win, its gonna be SMB vs TNT scheduled @7pm tonight.

No line for this game yet but I'll definitely bet on the TNT once odds are displayed.

SMB is currently having a problem with its players after involving in a fight during practice. The players involved are Santos, Wells, Nabong, Tubid.

It can affect the chemistry on the court if they will not forget and move on to what happened. The game against TNT is very important so they need to cooperate with each other. But I know these guys are surely on good terms right now, I hope so.
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November 19, 2019, 11:52:40 PM
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SMB 2.26 vs TNT 1.59

^^ Amazing, isn't it? That's the odds for tonight's game between the Beermen and Katropa.

There is internal problem that SMB need to solve but i think they are professional enough to handle this so i will bet for them to win this very important game for them.

Reports said that if SMB will win by 14 or more they will be at the no.3 spot, but it does not matter, all they need is to win this one and besides Jason Castro is not available for the Katropa if i'm correct.

Bottom line, both teams are struggling the last few games, so the more focus and hungry will win this one.

My bet, SMB 2.26, have to stick to my instinct here.

It's available in nitrogensports already, SMB is +3.5 against the TNT here, its not a fair line I guess as usually its the SMB who are the favorites in their games. Do we have some information already on who's import will play, is it wells or the new import? it's important for me before considering betting on SMB Moneyline, if its wells then there's a big chance that SMB will win tonight.

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It's available in nitrogensports already, SMB is +3.5 against the TNT here, its not a fair line I guess as usually its the SMB who are the favorites in their games. Do we have some information already on who's import will play, is it wells or the new import? it's important for me before considering betting on SMB Moneyline, if its wells then there's a big chance that SMB will win tonight.

It's not clear yet on who they will play.

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For it does not matter on who will play as an import as long as their is one, Holland is fine for me and i think he already adjusted to the game here. Fajardo is the main man for SMB and the import is just here to help at least for this game. Like what i've said, TNT also got problems, Castro is unavailable and Ray Parks is yet to jell well for the team.

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November 20, 2019, 04:58:24 AM
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Honestly, I think its hard to resist that SMB being the underdog, their local players along can already compete well against the TNT even with their import playing, this is a crucial game for both, so definitely SMB here will not take it lightly, they will use their experience and do everything to win.
If Holland is not good in scoring, at least he can help the team by defending the TNT import.

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Honestly, I think its hard to resist that SMB being the underdog, their local players along can already compete well against the TNT even with their import playing, this is a crucial game for both, so definitely SMB here will not take it lightly, they will use their experience and do everything to win.
If Holland is not good in scoring, at least he can help the team by defending the TNT import.

Who wouldn't take the SMB at this point, they are looking for a twice to beat advantage and they are underdog, it's a gift IMO.
Take that already before the line changes, remember the game will start at 7:00 pm, so things could happen if you will not act on it now.

As of now, SMB is still @ +3.5, and 2.18 odds if you will bet on the moneyline.

SMB and under 206.5 for me is a good bet too, because this game could be a low scoring as both teams will surely play with good defense.

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November 20, 2019, 11:04:37 AM
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Who wouldn't take the SMB at this point, they are looking for a twice to beat advantage and they are underdog, it's a gift IMO.
Take that already before the line changes, remember the game will start at 7:00 pm, so things could happen if you will not act on it now.

As of now, SMB is still @ +3.5, and 2.18 odds if you will bet on the moneyline.

SMB and under 206.5 for me is a good bet too, because this game could be a low scoring as both teams will surely play with good defense.

That's pretty good odds, SMB is the best team in the PBA, they are just struggling lately that's why they are the underdog in this game but they know how important this game so expects that they will give an all-out war competition tonight.

By the way thanks for sharing for an update. I'm gonna excited who's the team will win on this match.
I placed my bet on SMB I hope they will win. Cheesy

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