2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[blockman]

Going to jump in for Gilas at this moment, what can you say that Kelly Williams is offered to play for the team? He's already added to the pool though. He's one of the best PBA players that I've grown up with but at his age, do you think that he'll be able to make and play his role while we know that he's already aged?
(https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/02/14/sports/kelly-williams-joins-gilas-pilipinas-pool/1878691)

Did a quick look on the 24 man pool of Gilas that is in center position and it seems like they only got June Mar Fajardo and Raymond Almazan on the list. Kai Sotto will likely miss out the games while Japeth and Kouame are injured. LINK

This is the reason why they contacted Kelly Williams and offered to play for the team. I don't know, but they might try and get Mo Tautuaa as well if he's available. Overall, Williams' age might affect his performance, but he's playing well still in the PBA so maybe he can be a good back-up center for the Gilas, but with limited minutes I guess. They can't afford to do small line-ups as well because PH players are smaller than those of other countries that they are facing with.

Yeah, most of the big men will be absent on the next window and that's why they even added Williams on the pool even if he's too old enough to be part of it.
I do agree that Mo is a good addition to be considered by them but maybe, they really have considered that but Mo or his management didn't agree with to their wishlist.

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[LogitechMouse]

TBH, I was surprised that both games scored that high. I didn't expect since I've always seen teams scoring less than 100 points or at around 100-110 in the last games, but the 2 games yesterday was just a high-scoring game. 118-136 and 132-145. It's like an NBA game.

The first game of the day, and the debut game for Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, and they got the victory over the Bossing 136-118. Their import isn't a three-point shooter, and you can see it on the stats that he didn't attempt any three point, but he is efficient on the perimeter shooting 14-23. At the same time, Pogoy just erupted and scored 40 points on that game. Looks like the TNT are back after their disappointing performance last season. 2nd in the standings and tied up with SMB with 6-1 record.

The second game of the day. I thought that it will be a low scoring game for some reasons, but it wasn't and it was also a high scoring game. It's a close one at the halftime and SMB only lead by 5, but they manage to get the victory. Now I've seen JMF scoring more than 20+ points this conference. He scored 29 points and their import scored 44 points. I knew their import as a low scoring one, though very good in the paint, but in this game, he just lead his team offensively. On the other hand, the Batang Pier are still winless with 0-6 record. They might got eliminated in this conference again if they lose on their next game against TerraFirma (another farm team).

Anyway, who won the bets? I only won 1 out of the 3 bets that I've made.

[Fredomago]

Going to jump in for Gilas at this moment, what can you say that Kelly Williams is offered to play for the team? He's already added to the pool though. He's one of the best PBA players that I've grown up with but at his age, do you think that he'll be able to make and play his role while we know that he's already aged?
(https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/02/14/sports/kelly-williams-joins-gilas-pilipinas-pool/1878691)

Did a quick look on the 24 man pool of Gilas that is in center position and it seems like they only got June Mar Fajardo and Raymond Almazan on the list. Kai Sotto will likely miss out the games while Japeth and Kouame are injured. LINK

This is the reason why they contacted Kelly Williams and offered to play for the team. I don't know, but they might try and get Mo Tautuaa as well if he's available. Overall, Williams' age might affect his performance, but he's playing well still in the PBA so maybe he can be a good back-up center for the Gilas, but with limited minutes I guess. They can't afford to do small line-ups as well because PH players are smaller than those of other countries that they are facing with.

Yeah, most of the big men will be absent on the next window and that's why they even added Williams on the pool even if he's too old enough to be part of it.
I do agree that Mo is a good addition to be considered by them but maybe, they really have considered that but Mo or his management didn't agree with to their wishlist.

Kelly might have the advantage as he's playing for coach Chot that's why instead of Mo' coach Chot list him instead, not sure but I also agree that William's age might not be fit anymore with international games, it will be depend now with how coach Chot and the rest of the coaching group to execute the plays, let's hope for the best!

Moving back to PBA games, 2 games today, RoS vs DYIP and Mags vs NLEX, ROS and Mags ML is both decent, whaht do you think guys? 1.48 for Ros and 1.58 for Mags?

[Hypnosis00]

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

[Ziskinberg]

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

It's a close game, just like the first game where ROS won by only 2 points. Honestly, I thought DYIP would beat ROS because they were playing without an import, but it looks like DYIP's import wasn't 100% in that game.

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

Yeah, they are not hosting a live stream now. I have no idea what happened, as they haven't made any announcement regarding this matter.

[bisdak40]

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

It's a close game, just like the first game where ROS won by only 2 points. Honestly, I thought DYIP would beat ROS because they were playing without an import, but it looks like DYIP's import wasn't 100% in that game.

Magnolia vs NLEX was a close game up until the end of the first half but things changed when the Hotshots stepped on that accelerator pedal in the third quarter and fourth as they are now leading by 20 big points with 3 minutes to go.

Didn't know what happened here as i don't watch the game live because Smart Sports no longer stream PBA live games but just lucky to have bet for Magnolia Hotshots +2.5 @1.86 when they are down by 8 points somewhere in the third canto, usually i end up losing with this kind of betting style but i think i would win this one hehe.

[blockman]

Yeah, most of the big men will be absent on the next window and that's why they even added Williams on the pool even if he's too old enough to be part of it.
I do agree that Mo is a good addition to be considered by them but maybe, they really have considered that but Mo or his management didn't agree with to their wishlist.

Kelly might have the advantage as he's playing for coach Chot that's why instead of Mo' coach Chot list him instead, not sure but I also agree that William's age might not be fit anymore with international games, it will be depend now with how coach Chot and the rest of the coaching group to execute the plays, let's hope for the best!

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

[chaser15]

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

I tried to search for it but no news or announcement they have made

As far as I know, live streaming on Smart Sports is not on regular basis. There is a scheduled for it and I believed that in most cases, Thursday's games are not being live stream even on other main channels. To confirm if they really stop streaming live games, try to check on Sunday's game if they will cover it live.

I truly understand the frustration of watching from a random streamer but you have to expect that quality.

[goinmerry]

Yeah, most of the big men will be absent on the next window and that's why they even added Williams on the pool even if he's too old enough to be part of it.
I do agree that Mo is a good addition to be considered by them but maybe, they really have considered that but Mo or his management didn't agree with to their wishlist.

Kelly might have the advantage as he's playing for coach Chot that's why instead of Mo' coach Chot list him instead, not sure but I also agree that William's age might not be fit anymore with international games, it will be depend now with how coach Chot and the rest of the coaching group to execute the plays, let's hope for the best!

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

That's the problem sometimes even in other countries. Since windows qualifying games usually can clash with the player's availability, there should already be a consideration on who's player will be put up. Those players are in the reserve pool.

But that's not a problem regardless if we don't have a complete lineup since we now have a sure slot on the global competition.

Not saying it's fine to lose but either Gilas will win or lose those 2 games here, the PH is already qualified for the World Cup.

[LogitechMouse]

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

They aren't doing a livestream if the game isn't played by either Ginebra or SMB. JK .

Anyway, I can't find it either because they aren't broadcasting it on live television especially the first game. I tried to search it as well, but can't find any. I guess these live streams from unknown streamer is kind of helpful at least to us PBA fans who want to watch it at least on livestream.

The 1st game was a close one, but I don't know why the ROS's import didn't play yesterday, but nevertheless, a close win for them against the TerraFirma Dyip. The 2nd game is what I'm disappointed at. I did watch the game, NLEX had a double digit lead in the first half, but it disappeared coming into the 2nd half. At the same time, NLEX's import is like Hudson who can't play on the inside as well. He is more of a shooter, but not as efficient as Hudson. I don't know if it's only me, but if the NLEX will lose again after this loss, they might wanna change their import.

[Maslate]

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

They aren't doing a livestream if the game isn't played by either Ginebra or SMB. JK .

Anyway, I can't find it either because they aren't broadcasting it on live television especially the first game. I tried to search it as well, but can't find any. I guess these live streams from unknown streamer is kind of helpful at least to us PBA fans who want to watch it at least on livestream.

But it's an illegal stream, so don't complain about the interruptions. It's better than having no live stream at all, right?

The 1st game was a close one, but I don't know why the ROS's import didn't play yesterday, but nevertheless, a close win for them against the TerraFirma Dyip. The 2nd game is what I'm disappointed at. I did watch the game, NLEX had a double digit lead in the first half, but it disappeared coming into the 2nd half. At the same time, NLEX's import is like Hudson who can't play on the inside as well. He is more of a shooter, but not as efficient as Hudson. I don't know if it's only me, but if the NLEX will lose again after this loss, they might wanna change their import.

DYIP is such a farm team that they can't even win a game with an import against an opponent that has no import. This would only indicate that ROS is a good team, but they will face a bigger test if they play against a team at the top. Anyway, a win is a win, and that's something to celebrate if you are Coach Yeng.

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

[Kelvinid]

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

So far, TNT is still leading the game, and this could be a chance for Meralco to mount a comeback, especially now that Pogoy has sprained his ankle. They need to win the 3rd quarter and finish the job in the 4th quarter. TNT has too much offensive power, but what happened to Meralco's defensive prowess? They are known for being a good defensive team.

[Sanitough]

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

So far, TNT is still leading the game, and this could be a chance for Meralco to mount a comeback, especially now that Pogoy has sprained his ankle. They need to win the 3rd quarter and finish the job in the 4th quarter. TNT has too much offensive power, but what happened to Meralco's defensive prowess? They are known for being a good defensive team.

The Bolts had a little run in the 4th quarter, but they were already out of time. They won't make it this time. Although these teams are sister teams, there will be no "sagip Kapamilya" like what Ginebra did to the Magnolia Hotshots. TNT will continue their good winning streak, and with a good import and contributions from the locals, they will be championship contenders this conference.

Mikey Williams and Calvin Oftana are the two local leaders who scored 25 and 19 points, respectively

[Natalim]

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

So far, TNT is still leading the game, and this could be a chance for Meralco to mount a comeback, especially now that Pogoy has sprained his ankle. They need to win the 3rd quarter and finish the job in the 4th quarter. TNT has too much offensive power, but what happened to Meralco's defensive prowess? They are known for being a good defensive team.

The Bolts had a little run in the 4th quarter, but they were already out of time. They won't make it this time. Although these teams are sister teams, there will be no "sagip Kapamilya" like what Ginebra did to the Magnolia Hotshots. TNT will continue their good winning streak, and with a good import and contributions from the locals, they will be championship contenders this conference.

The run was too late; they should have made it in the third quarter so that in the fourth quarter, the pressure would not have been so high. It's good that TNT won this game. They need to be at the top so that they will have the twice-to-beat advantage. Actually, the top 4 teams will enjoy that advantage. Meralco's import does not have good outside shooting, and neither does the whole team. On the other hand, TNT is a team of good outside shooters, but the problem is that Meralco was not able to defend well.

Mikey Williams and Calvin Oftana are the two local leaders who scored 25 and 19 points, respectively

TNT has a lot of shooters. Although Pogoy is down, it did not affect the team's overall performance. In fact, they still managed to show their dominance with a big win.

[Maslate]

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

So far, TNT is still leading the game, and this could be a chance for Meralco to mount a comeback, especially now that Pogoy has sprained his ankle. They need to win the 3rd quarter and finish the job in the 4th quarter. TNT has too much offensive power, but what happened to Meralco's defensive prowess? They are known for being a good defensive team.

The Bolts had a little run in the 4th quarter, but they were already out of time. They won't make it this time. Although these teams are sister teams, there will be no "sagip Kapamilya" like what Ginebra did to the Magnolia Hotshots. TNT will continue their good winning streak, and with a good import and contributions from the locals, they will be championship contenders this conference.

The run was too late; they should have made it in the third quarter so that in the fourth quarter, the pressure would not have been so high. It's good that TNT won this game. They need to be at the top so that they will have the twice-to-beat advantage. Actually, the top 4 teams will enjoy that advantage. Meralco's import does not have good outside shooting, and neither does the whole team. On the other hand, TNT is a team of good outside shooters, but the problem is that Meralco was not able to defend well.

It's the same run that Ginebra did against SMB. It's just unfortunate that they were not able to complete the run. The game could have gone to OT if Nard Pinto was able to hit another 3-point shot. It was just a bad decision on his end; he was able to get the ball back after missing a shot, and he should have just passed it to Brownlee to take the last shot for a higher percentage.

This is the second time Brownlee has been outperformed by an import this conference, and it comes after their two straight losses. Brownlee amost has a triple-double, but the impact is not significant: 21 points, 12 rebounds, and 9 assists. Meanwhile, Clark, the import of SMB, made the following contributions: 35 points, 10 rebounds, and 2 assists.

[Johnyz]

Mikey Williams and Calvin Oftana are the two local leaders who scored 25 and 19 points, respectively

TNT has a lot of shooters. Although Pogoy is down, it did not affect the team's overall performance. In fact, they still managed to show their dominance with a big win.

This is how the team should play, and they should not rely to one player only and with their import.
TNT managed to get the win despite of a good run of their opponent, it was a great game for both teams.

TNT is composed of good players, they are in the good spot right now going into the next round, they should play consistently.
TNT will play against SMB, this will be a big game and whoever wins the game will take the solo lead.

[blockman]

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

That's the problem sometimes even in other countries. Since windows qualifying games usually can clash with the player's availability, there should already be a consideration on who's player will be put up. Those players are in the reserve pool.

But that's not a problem regardless if we don't have a complete lineup since we now have a sure slot on the global competition.

Not saying it's fine to lose but either Gilas will win or lose those 2 games here, the PH is already qualified for the World Cup.

Yeah, I remember when Chot said that it's not really a requirement to win when he's justifying the loss of Gilas. But that's not really a point even if there's a secured slot already.
Those who are available will be prioritized for sure and that's up to the management on who's ready on the pool. I'm sure that many of these players on the pool would be glad to represent the country.

[Scripture]

Mikey Williams and Calvin Oftana are the two local leaders who scored 25 and 19 points, respectively

TNT has a lot of shooters. Although Pogoy is down, it did not affect the team's overall performance. In fact, they still managed to show their dominance with a big win.

This is how the team should play, and they should not rely to one player only and with their import.
TNT managed to get the win despite of a good run of their opponent, it was a great game for both teams.

TNT is composed of good players, they are in the good spot right now going into the next round, they should play consistently.
TNT will play against SMB, this will be a big game and whoever wins the game will take the solo lead.

This will be a wild weekend, and expect the crowd to support their favorite team and with TNT, I can say that they also have a good number of fans.

Any odds available already for this game? I think SMB will be the favorite team to win here as usual but the way TNT played this conference, I think they also have a good chance to win here especially if they will play with a team effort here again. This will be a high scoring game for sure, will have to look for a better odds here in favor to TNT.

[Fredomago]

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

That's the problem sometimes even in other countries. Since windows qualifying games usually can clash with the player's availability, there should already be a consideration on who's player will be put up. Those players are in the reserve pool.

But that's not a problem regardless if we don't have a complete lineup since we now have a sure slot on the global competition.

Not saying it's fine to lose but either Gilas will win or lose those 2 games here, the PH is already qualified for the World Cup.

Yeah, I remember when Chot said that it's not really a requirement to win when he's justifying the loss of Gilas. But that's not really a point even if there's a secured slot already.
Those who are available will be prioritized for sure and that's up to the management on who's ready on the pool. I'm sure that many of these players on the pool would be glad to represent the country.

Yeah, if there's nothing wrong with how the franchise owners will do, then those who are available will be happy to represent our national flag. I think it's the best achievement a player can be when you are playing for your country. Not with the money, but with the pride where you can bring the glory to your motherland.

Hopefully, coach Chot will be mentored by coach Tim in terms of executing a system that will work for the whole squad.

Not with the running gun plays, but a system that will maximize all the talents of each player inside the court.

[blockman]

Yeah, I remember when Chot said that it's not really a requirement to win when he's justifying the loss of Gilas. But that's not really a point even if there's a secured slot already.
Those who are available will be prioritized for sure and that's up to the management on who's ready on the pool. I'm sure that many of these players on the pool would be glad to represent the country.

Yeah, if there's nothing wrong with how the franchise owners will do, then those who are available will be happy to represent our national flag. I think it's the best achievement a player can be when you are playing for your country. Not with the money, but with the pride where you can bring the glory to your motherland.

Hopefully, coach Chot will be mentored by coach Tim in terms of executing a system that will work for the whole squad.

Not with the running gun plays, but a system that will maximize all the talents of each player inside the court.

Those players that are part of the roster really want to represent the country and whatever is offered to them, it's a big thing already to be part of it.
Chot is something else, he's not willing to work with anyone else. You've seen his ego and it will not change, the problem is on SBP but then, he's like too strong with connections there. I have no hate for him but we saw his run in the past and didn't have the initiative to make the call of people to resign. Too sad that the other great players are in different offshore leagues and became part of the Gilas pool but then, they're not used by Chot, they just heated their seats during those window qualifiers.