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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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Other - 8 (6.6%)
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November 17, 2022, 11:03:07 AM
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The biggest weak point of Barcelona's team is their weak defense. One of the reasons why they lose most of the matches is because of their poor defensive performance. If Barcelona want to move forward, the first step they need to take now is the defense.

So what do you think is the problem with defense? Is it the poor quality of the stoppers or is it a tactical problem? Christensen and Alonso came from Chelsea, they know each other. They should have gotten a good fit. Since Pique retired from football, it may be necessary to get another central defender numerically. There is a new signing Kounde, and there is also Garcia. Actually they have 4 good defenders but they are not at superstar level yet. I don't think it's a big deal on defense. In fact, Barcelona was defeated only once in the league and drew once. They conceded only 5 goals in 14 matches. This looks like a pretty good stats. I can't agree with the view that it's a defense issue.

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November 17, 2022, 11:37:08 AM
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It is not the trophy that bring the money back to the club the difference between the money given to the first position and second position is not that much to bring back Barcelona to financial stability. There is more to do than trying to win the Liga title


Title prize money will not cover the money that has been spent on buying players. But after being able to raise the level of the game and buy good players, not getting the title will be disappointing. I think if there's a coach who hasn't given a trophy for a long time and it's a big club then that coach will certainly come under pressure or could have been sacked. Nowadays achievements are synonymous with money, those who have a lot of money can buy great players for achievements.

Barcelona splashed €153 million in the summer of 2022 and Total Gross Salaries for the 2022-2023 Season is €317,340,000, or €6,102,692 per week. It hasn't been the money used for the others. So Barcelona must have money three or four times its total expenditure.  That's so that Barcelona can stay competitive. In addition, we must remember that there is an FFP that must be adhered to.

Source: https://www.capology.com/club/barcelona/salaries/

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November 17, 2022, 12:20:31 PM
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I think Barcelona still has some weaknesses, Barcelona always looks dominant when playing with a team below its level.  however, if you meet a big team like in the El Classico match. Barcelona has difficulty, especially to keep up with the style of play from more established opposing teams. that is, Barcelona is not too strong and Xavi must fix the weaknesses of his troops.  Regarding who will be the champion in this competition, the La Liga schedule still has 24 matches remaining. only two points away from first and second place.

As for Real Madrid, so far Madrid has remained a strong candidate to win the trophy in this competition. a distance of two points from Barcelona is not an obstacle for them to regain the top of the standings. well, so in the end. only the most consistent team will be able to win the La Liga title.
You are right and that is why they failed in the champions league and are doing better in the league this season. They get wins  easily but struggle to win games when they play against big teams like Real Madrid, PSG , Bayern Munich etc. This is a troubling issue that needs to be addressed and fixed because to compete in European top flight you have to be able to compete against top teams.
The biggest weak point of Barcelona's team is their weak defense. One of the reasons why they lose most of the matches is because of their poor defensive performance. If Barcelona want to move forward, the first step they need to take now is the defense.

Barcelona have them, it's just that their key player picked up an injury after the international break. Ronald Arajujo, Jules Kounde, Andreas Christensen, can be counted on in defense. it's just that Barcelona's defeat to Bayern Munich was purely the fault of their veteran players who really underperformed. Likewise when playing against Inter Milan, there were many mistakes made in the defense sector.

IMO, Barcelona have players who are qualified to be tough opponents in a competition more prestigious than La Liga. however, they still have many flaws, weaknesses and the strategic role of Xavi who is overly confident. Xavi is more dominant in relying on their wing players, so the midfield war is not too visible "in crucial matches" Dembele, Raphinha did not contribute too much to that match, as well as the role of the young midfielder that Barcelona has.

Barcelona's defeat is not only that they are not strong, it's just that there are many mistakes and the players are underperforming.  As a result, Barcelona was eliminated. next, Xavi has homework to improve the weaknesses of his players and the strategies he applies. if Xavi, can create strong bonding and chemistry for his troops. I am optimistic, Barcelona can win the La Liga trophy this season.

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November 17, 2022, 01:17:10 PM
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I think Barcelona still has some weaknesses, Barcelona always looks dominant when playing with a team below its level.  however, if you meet a big team like in the El Classico match. Barcelona has difficulty, especially to keep up with the style of play from more established opposing teams. that is, Barcelona is not too strong and Xavi must fix the weaknesses of his troops.  Regarding who will be the champion in this competition, the La Liga schedule still has 24 matches remaining. only two points away from first and second place.

As for Real Madrid, so far Madrid has remained a strong candidate to win the trophy in this competition. a distance of two points from Barcelona is not an obstacle for them to regain the top of the standings. well, so in the end. only the most consistent team will be able to win the La Liga title.
You are right and that is why they failed in the champions league and are doing better in the league this season. They get wins  easily but struggle to win games when they play against big teams like Real Madrid, PSG , Bayern Munich etc. This is a troubling issue that needs to be addressed and fixed because to compete in European top flight you have to be able to compete against top teams.
I think the clubs in the Champions League are clearly still quite unbalanced for the current Barcelona. But in La Liga, it shouldn't be a problem if Barcelona only needs to focus on competing with Real Madrid. If you compare clubs in the Champions League with La Liga, the level is far enough, Barcelona has failed because they still can't balance classy games and have experienced players, one of which is, of course, Bayern Munich. Statistics at the moment Barcelona lead the top of the La Liga standings, only 2 points advantage and I think it is still not safe enough if Real Madrid is below it.

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November 17, 2022, 01:34:57 PM
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Xavi got everyone he wanted in the summer (putting Barcelona in an even more difficult financial position) but Barcelona continue to lose every big game. What do you say if this continues and the result of the season is second place in La Liga again? Barcelona are on the verge of bankruptcy and I don't think they can wait longer than 2 seasons for a good result from Xavi. In modern football, this is more than the maximum term.
Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
No, Xavi is not leaving Barcelona and the club will not allow that to happen. Trust in Xavi is still very high, Barcelona still has the chance to win La Liga and UEL. Xavi needed time to rebuild the Barcelona squad, economic difficulties hampered Xavi's work a bit but he was able to persuade Laporta to bring in several players in the last transfer market.

Slowly Barcelona performance has improved under Xavi direction, after a very long wait they have managed to return to first place.
Barcelona needs additional income to balance income with expenses, winning several titles can lighten Barcelona burden. The world cup could also work in Barcelona's favour, if a player gets knocked out in the group stage his club will receive €180k. Reaching the round of 16 will be awarded €220k, Qfs €280k and the Final €370k. Barcelona will benefit greatly if Spain makes it to the final.

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Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
I'm not really sure what I read in the media, sometimes it's not true and can't be believed. We know Barcelona's finances are not great, but they are still operating and being a competitive team in the league. I know Barcelona owe their players salaries, but that's an internal team problem that really has nothing to do with a lot of people.

So far, sponsors seem to be helping Barcelona a lot to reduce the financial burden facing the team. It may never solve everything, but chances are sponsorship will help mitigate the problem. If that doesn't help much, then I believe Barcelona will have to sell a lot of their assets again.

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I think the clubs in the Champions League are clearly still quite unbalanced for the current Barcelona.
Barcelona are no longer strong as same as they were in the past but they should win more matches in group stage. I felt Barcelona have psychological issues in Champions League too. They are not confident about themselves in Champions League and it is a big difference than they were about 5 or 10 years ago.

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But in La Liga, it shouldn't be a problem if Barcelona only needs to focus on competing with Real Madrid. If you compare clubs in the Champions League with La Liga, the level is far enough, Barcelona has failed because they still can't balance classy games and have experienced players, one of which is, of course, Bayern Munich.
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La Liga has a league format that is long enough for a club to make mistakes and correct them later but still are able to win a league trophy. Many young players of Barcelona are more familiar with La Liga than Champions League. It impacts their performance in Champions League too.

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Statistics at the moment Barcelona lead the top of the La Liga standings, only 2 points advantage and I think it is still not safe enough if Real Madrid is below it.
Having two points in difference and having a first position is better than no difference and having lower ranking. From now, Barcelona can be more confident that they are strong enough to beat many clubs in La Liga. It will motivate them more and give them a fire in order to win their first La Liga in recent seasons. It is very meaningful to win it with a new player generation and a young coach who are all like a future of Barcelona.

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The biggest weak point of Barcelona's team is their weak defense. One of the reasons why they lose most of the matches is because of their poor defensive performance. If Barcelona want to move forward, the first step they need to take now is the defense.
From what I have seen so far the defense of the Barcelona team is not so bad and even better than some other teams in La Liga. And for now Barcelona is also at the top of the standings although in general the position is still not safe because Real Madrid can still be overtaken, but at least Barcelona has proven itself to still have the ability to compete and try to get a trophy in La Liga this season.

Because of all the teams that Barcelona have to beat this season in La Liga, Real Madrid is a very important opponent for Barcelona to beat if Barcelona is to get a bigger chance of bringing home the trophy this season.

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November 17, 2022, 02:28:31 PM
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Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
I'm not really sure what I read in the media, sometimes it's not true and can't be believed. We know Barcelona's finances are not great, but they are still operating and being a competitive team in the league. I know Barcelona owe their players salaries, but that's an internal team problem that really has nothing to do with a lot of people.

So far, sponsors seem to be helping Barcelona a lot to reduce the financial burden facing the team. It may never solve everything, but chances are sponsorship will help mitigate the problem. If that doesn't help much, then I believe Barcelona will have to sell a lot of their assets again.

If Barcelona cannot win the La Liga title, they will have to face a huge financial loss. Because they have already left the Champions League. The team has many loans, which they desperately need to win the La Liga title to pay off.

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November 17, 2022, 03:04:15 PM
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Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
I'm not really sure what I read in the media, sometimes it's not true and can't be believed. We know Barcelona's finances are not great, but they are still operating and being a competitive team in the league. I know Barcelona owe their players salaries, but that's an internal team problem that really has nothing to do with a lot of people.

So far, sponsors seem to be helping Barcelona a lot to reduce the financial burden facing the team. It may never solve everything, but chances are sponsorship will help mitigate the problem. If that doesn't help much, then I believe Barcelona will have to sell a lot of their assets again.

Financial problems are still a frightening figure for all teams, not just Barcelona. However, they were unlucky because the problem had approached them in the last few seasons and had to make them rack their brains to restore the team's finances and even make them slump. They must be thinking about this, and with their improved performance, it is hoped that it will have a good impact on their finances. I hope that the problem with the salaries of their players who are still in arrears will not make them go further and decide for things that are not desirable.

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November 17, 2022, 04:27:43 PM
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Sometimes you also have the times when you actually play pretty well but the results don't reflect your performance. That can get you into a whole lot of trouble pretty quickly as we all know. In La Liga they have persistently and constantly achieved the results they actually deserved. In the Champions League the first game against Bayern was a strong game by Barcelona, but Bayern finished the game with a bit more luck and the happy ending. Sometimes a season depends on just seconds and very minor details especially in knockout competitions. That is why I am saying that this Barcelona is a different one compared to last year and La Liga proves that so far. They haven't won their games being lucky. They won their games with an astounding goal statistic and dominance. The only dirty mark in La Liga is the loss against Real Madrid. And yet they are leading La Liga from the top.
the tendency to decrease a team's performance often comes in unexpected situations as experienced by barcelona in the UCL where they had to be eliminated early when they had to lose to bayern munich and inter milan. But Xavi can still continue the trend of wins and wins in La Liga which has made Barcelona the leader of the standings. Failure in the UCL this season seems to be a valuable lesson for Xavi because after his fall in the UCL, Barcelona can appear more impressive in Laliga. So, Xavi can continue this positive trend in the Europa League and hopes he can take Barcelona to go far on the Europa League stage.

The loss in the Chamions League aside, they can still achieve a great result for the season. Frankly speaking, who would have expected Barcelona to win the Champions League this year anyway? Yes they became increasingly better over time, but given how they performed in the recent past, they weren't quite the favorite as Manchester City or Bayern Munich.

The La Liga title for this season will do it for Xavi. It puts them back to the top of the Spanish soccer and it secures the important CL qualification and polishes up their reputation as a top club that the best players want to play for. That is the first step they need to take in order to then go for the way back to the European top.

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November 17, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
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It looks like this season is going to be really tough for Atletico Madrid. There is a huge drop in their performance these days. They have got only one win on the recent weeks. Simeone must be really frustrated with the recent results. They have already been eliminated in the Champions League as well and they aren't even in the Europa League.

All of these combined is a really big problem for the team. They were better than this in the previous season but something went wrong with them this season. Simeone might really think of leaving this team at the end of the season. They definitely need some big changes.
Atletico Madrid seem to have lost that confidence and determination they started the season with, they have failed to maintain that momentum they kicked off the season with and as a result have been struggling to win games recently. I can't really tell what the problem is but for a team of this calibre a lot is expected as well as good results in all competitions in the season. I don't know if Simeone is leaving but fir the time being the situation has to change.

I think Atletico Madrid he’s not going to improve their performance unless something changes drastically. I think they need to bring in some good players. Gone are those times when the match between Barcelona, Real Madrid, and Atletico Madrid happened to be very interesting and influential. Right now, almost all the time, Atletico Madrid is not given any chance against these two teams. And it is understandable why that happens. These two teams are very much better and capable of beating Atletico Madrid.

I don’t think we also can blame the coach. I think his tactics are actually not that bad. The problem is the plans that he’s making are not being implemented in the field well enough in my opinion.

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November 17, 2022, 04:58:43 PM
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Atletico Madrid seem to have lost that confidence and determination they started the season with, they have failed to maintain that momentum they kicked off the season with and as a result have been struggling to win games recently. I can't really tell what the problem is but for a team of this calibre a lot is expected as well as good results in all competitions in the season. I don't know if Simeone is leaving but fir the time being the situation has to change.

I think Atletico Madrid he’s not going to improve their performance unless something changes drastically. I think they need to bring in some good players. Gone are those times when the match between Barcelona, Real Madrid, and Atletico Madrid happened to be very interesting and influential. Right now, almost all the time, Atletico Madrid is not given any chance against these two teams. And it is understandable why that happens. These two teams are very much better and capable of beating Atletico Madrid.

I don’t think we also can blame the coach. I think his tactics are actually not that bad. The problem is the plans that he’s making are not being implemented in the field well enough in my opinion.

Actually they are a very capable club to provide competitive competition to Barcelona and Real Madrid. But yes as we see now that they have declined which makes it very difficult for them to compete with these two clubs. It's true that Diego Simeone's strategy isn't that bad, but still those who watch don't want to know that, because for fans they just want to see their proud club always perform well and win every game. But now they can't do that and even make their fans' expectations slowly fade. There is still a lot of time for them to improve on this, but to catch Barcelona and Real Madrid to the same level will be very difficult.

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November 17, 2022, 05:08:25 PM
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It is clear that Sevilla has performed poorly this season in two different competitions, the Champions League and Laliga. They can't be expected if they don't invest a lot of money in the transfer market this time. Defence, midfield and striker have looked terrible for them this season and even a change of coach hasn't been able to make them any better until now.
Not only bad, but very severe and tragic. I myself was very shocked, how can a big club like Sevilla have to be in the relegation zone for weeks without any good progress. Moreover, from the last 5 matches, they were not even able to harvest a win, only lost and were drawn. This worsens their condition. Even worse, even against small clubs they were unable to win. The problem is not only with the players but also with management and all lines including the coach.
All parties related to Seville must be held responsible for what is happening to them now. We do not blame just one party because this is a shared responsibility. Players, coaches, management must evaluate as a whole what exactly is their problem now. Indeed, in this case a coach will be the first to be blamed, because he is in direct contact with the players and the match, but that alone is not enough because changing coaches will not guarantee that they will be better than they are now. Last season we saw how impressive they were, they could even pose a threat to Real Madrid and sit in 2nd place for weeks.

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November 17, 2022, 05:14:55 PM
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It's true that Diego Simeone's strategy isn't that bad, but still those who watch don't want to know that, because for fans they just want to see their proud club always perform well and win every game. But now they can't do that and even make their fans' expectations slowly fade. There is still a lot of time for them to improve on this, but to catch Barcelona and Real Madrid to the same level will be very difficult.
The problem with Athletico madrid may be Diego Simeone, he has been playing exactly the same way for many years now without any change, i know that he has done good things with the club in the past, like winning La Liga titles and taking the club to champions league finals, and his name will be remembered as one of their greatest ever coaches, but maybe the time for him to go has come. I feel the players need a new manager that will play in a different and more entertaining way, the opposition already know what they are to expect when they face Diego Simeone's Athletico madrid. I know the club can't sack him because of his good achievements, but he can leave on mutual terms and go to another league, while another manager takes over, that may be the change Athletico madrid needs.

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November 17, 2022, 05:24:38 PM
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The problem with Athletico madrid may be Diego Simeone, he has been playing exactly the same way for many years now without any change, i know that he has done good things with the club in the past, like winning La Liga titles and taking the club to champions league finals, and his name will be remembered as one of their greatest ever coaches, but maybe the time for him to go has come. I feel the players need a new manager that will play in a different and more entertaining way, the opposition already know what they are to expect when they face Diego Simeone's Athletico madrid. I know the club can't sack him because of his good achievements, but he can leave on mutual terms and go to another league, while another manager takes over, that may be the change Athletico madrid needs.
Atletico Madrid has dilemma if they have sack Diego Simeone because he is coach who has been quite successful with Atletico by winning the La Liga title and was also able to bring Atletico to the Champions League final twice before beating by Real Madrid. Most different with Atletico Madrid performance in this season because poor performance after eliminating at Champion League and failed qualify to Europe League after losing compete with Bayern Leverkusen and finish on bottom standing group.

Atletico's performance is also not promising in La Liga, from 14 matches, Atletico have suffered 4 defeats, 3 draws and 7 wins. I don't think great achievement for Atletico Madrid in this season because have adrift 13 points from Barcelona managed first standing. Seems Atletico management give several games opportunity for Diego Simeone can Atletico back to the top performance or not?

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November 17, 2022, 05:29:58 PM
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If Barcelona cannot win the La Liga title, they will have to face a huge financial loss. Because they have already left the Champions League. The team has many loans, which they desperately need to win the La Liga title to pay off.
I don't care how bad financially Barcelona think you are whether they have a loan or not. I'm not really interested in keeping abreast of much about the financial condition of the team recently built with renewed passion and confidence by Xavi. Barcelona has failed to live up to high expectations in the Champions League, that's normal for any team even if they are financially unhinged.

At Laliga, you probably have to admit they are the best so far. Barcelona is ahead of Real Madrid and 18 other teams in 14 matches in the first half of the season. So there's no reason why I'm doubtful about them for now although in the second half of the season the competition will very likely be tougher.

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November 17, 2022, 06:01:44 PM
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If Barcelona cannot win the La Liga title, they will have to face a huge financial loss. Because they have already left the Champions League. The team has many loans, which they desperately need to win the La Liga title to pay off.
I don't care how bad financially Barcelona think you are whether they have a loan or not. I'm not really interested in keeping abreast of much about the financial condition of the team recently built with renewed passion and confidence by Xavi. Barcelona has failed to live up to high expectations in the Champions League, that's normal for any team even if they are financially unhinged.

At Laliga, you probably have to admit they are the best so far. Barcelona is ahead of Real Madrid and 18 other teams in 14 matches in the first half of the season. So there's no reason why I'm doubtful about them for now although in the second half of the season the competition will very likely be tougher.
In fact what @Fachant said is also true because regardless of anything Barcelona this season seems to be making a big gamble by sacrificing a large part of their finances by bringing in some expensive players to make them champions and the defeat in the Champions League slightly influenced them in making the gamble a win for Barcelona .
For La Liga, no one doubts them now, but on the other hand, the match is still very long and it is also still unpredictable what will happen in the future, especially for Madrid, so if they still have to lose at the end of the season, it will definitely be a big loss for them financially. happened and put them in critical condition again and again.

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Simeone is a great coach and i don't think that the problem problem of atleteco is in the coach, but the team need to find new players asap because the squad is really need fresh blood, simeone is one of the best coaches in the last 10 years in my opinion and i don't imagine atleteco without him
Come on, don't get too caught up in the past. if we say that then maybe we should also say that Koeman was great in the past because he managed to bring the team he coached to bring several titles in the eredivisie.
Now is now and these 2 seasons Simeone failed in bringing Atletico to the feats he previously achieved. The arrival of new players doesn't have much impact because even with the addition of Morata now they can't do much in attack.

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November 17, 2022, 06:20:11 PM
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Simeone is a great coach and i don't think that the problem problem of atleteco is in the coach, but the team need to find new players asap because the squad is really need fresh blood, simeone is one of the best coaches in the last 10 years in my opinion and i don't imagine atleteco without him

I disagree with this point haha; I think Simeone is the main problem of the Atletico side; the clubside has signed countless of top attackers and none of them is able to perform under Simeone as manager. his model of football is outdated and he needs to change his approach or be changed if Atletico Madrid wants to challenge again
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