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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
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November 17, 2022, 04:47:29 AM
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I was very surprised by the appearance of the Sevilla club, that this club is a formidable club and even subscribes to appear in the Champions League, but seeing the ranking in the current standings Sevilla is in the red zone, of course this will make their fans dissatisfied with the results they are getting. achieved in the middle of this season, at least there is a change for Sevilla in improving their position..


They lost several key players in last season's transfer and one of the positions left by Kounde to Barcelona has yet to be filled properly, so this is indeed difficult.
On the other hand the form at the moment is like a normal club without any real strength which makes it difficult for Sevilla.
14 matches and only 2 clear wins this is Sevilla's worst achievement in the last few seasons they have lived clearly there must be a real change to this.

I think, Barcelona will definitely get it right before their next match because their coach is seriously working to ensure there is improvement that will make the fans to believe that there is still hope for them to win this la Liga league title. Barcelona really performed well in this season compared to last season that made them to experienced a lot of challenges because of the talented striker that leave the team to PSG. For Sevilla, I think their coach have a lot of work to do to improve the team because their performance in this season is very poor, which Sevilla president and Sevilla fans are not happy about the results they got from this season.

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I think, Barcelona will definitely get it right before their next match because their coach is seriously working to ensure there is improvement that will make the fans to believe that there is still hope for them to win this la Liga league title. Barcelona really performed well in this season compared to last season that made them to experienced a lot of challenges because of the talented striker that leave the team to PSG. For Sevilla, I think their coach have a lot of work to do to improve the team because their performance in this season is very poor, which Sevilla president and Sevilla fans are not happy about the results they got from this season.
Xavi will not waste the opportunity to win his first trophy as Barcelona coach, reaching the top of the standings is the result of the process he has carried out so far. Barcelona has managed to rise from the slump of the past two seasons, Xavi cold hands have made changes in the Barcelona squad.

The cohesiveness and confidence of the players has grown since the arrival of several new players, Lewandowski has become a very influential figure in the Barcelona squad. His presence has made big changes, especially in attack, Barcelona must be able to maintain their form to achieve their goals at the end of the season.

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November 17, 2022, 06:05:55 AM
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I can't say that Xavi Hernandez is one of the coaches that Barcelona has, because he just started coaching Barcelona, I still want to see how far he can consistently build Barcelona's performance. However, I don't rule out that Xavi Hernandez can become one of the best coaches Barcelona has, and it would be a special thing if he could make that happen. Because he is one of the legends of Barcelona and it would be great if he could become one of the legends in the coaching chair.
Barcelona can use him whatever the duration barcelona wants but the problem is since xavi has become a coach with worst performance in the barcelona and this must be analyzed whether he shall stay or not in barcelona. When you are only defending a coach that doesn't give something to your club and then you are destroying your club too. Xavi has no more capability as a coach barcelona. He has no good impact to the club. The performance during la liga was just a bonus for him but we don't know what's gonna happening with barcelona until the end of season.
Xavi was the worst coach in the barcelona so far and this is the truth that must be accepted if he was a worst coach.

I don't agree with your opinion. Too cruel to have to convict Xavi at this time. We have to look at it from all sides, Xavi arrived when Barcelona's condition was at its lowest point. With the current condition of the team it is very difficult to target champions, maybe Pep Guardiola's class will have difficulty managing a team like today. I respect Xavi for being able to bring the Blaugrana to appear at the top.
So, did you mean all of players that already bought by xavi was useless for him? he has bought so many great players with very big transfer for any players. I don't even think so. If you think another player will have same result as xavi once they became a coach for barcelona is pretty wrong. The golden era for barcelona was during pep guardiola. Xavi was also ever playing under him too. Xavi was nothing compared with guardiola.
Failure in the Champions League this season is disappointing, but Barcelona are unlucky because they are in a very tough group.
If barcelona was strong and it can beat inter but the truth is very hard to accept if barcelona was a bad team for now and it's still under intermilan at this moment.

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November 17, 2022, 07:08:32 AM
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What we see is a very drastic decline for Sevilla by touching the relegation zone while all the teams are avoiding it but because Sevilla's performance is bad, they have to be satisfied with their current position with 11 points the same as Cadiz. This is bad luck in my opinion for Sevilla.
Even in the Champions League, Sevilla cannot qualify and only enter the European league caste, although there is still hope if management can fix the problem that has made Sevilla shrink in its performance.
I'm still optimistic that Sevilla can survive in LaLiga because they might be able to improve even more.
It is clear that Sevilla has performed poorly this season in two different competitions, the Champions League and Laliga. They can't be expected if they don't invest a lot of money in the transfer market this time. Defence, midfield and striker have looked terrible for them this season and even a change of coach hasn't been able to make them any better until now.

The problem may be the player's self-confidence has dropped dramatically so that this has made them play badly. I don't really want them to be like a mediocre team this season, really. Sevilla must get up and do everything possible to get their players motivated and confident again to win the match. At 18 on the table, it's not really a position one could imagine earlier this season for them.
Yes, they must be willing to re-invest a lot in the winter transfer market and the new coach must be able to find ideal players and revive their lack of confidence. This will also be material for future evaluation of how Sevilla can get out of relegation and stay away it was the first point for them to get out of this problem.
The hope is still quite big and they can also return to the middle table even though it's not a bad hope but at least Sevilla which we considered a strong team last season we should be able to see again in this season.
One of the biggest problem on Sevilla squad is their forward line were lack of productive that from 13 goals total in Laliga this season their strikers only can scoring 2 goals even all of it comes from Fara Mir so this proven most of Sevilla strikers didn't playing well and new players such as Kasper Dolberg still cannot able to scoring goals although he loaned from Nice with expensive price so for next transfer market Sevilla have to focus looking for new strikers who can adapted quickly and help them to avoid relegation zone but unfortunately this cannot be solved with easilly because Sevilla also had a financial problem even on the last summer transfer window Sevilla only can able to spend less of money to gets mediocre players only

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November 17, 2022, 07:33:20 AM
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The measure of the success of big teams like Barcelona is the champions league. Being a league champion doesn't mean it's a big club. For a club like Barcelona to be successful only in the local league does not suit that club's level. Barcelona has been competing in the Europa League in recent years. Therefore, we cannot say that a club that has achieved great success in the past is successful without playing in the champions league.
I agree with you because the domestic league is way different from competing in the champions league, when you compete in the Champions league you are competing against not just randomly selected teams but the best from various European leagues and you know what that means, you are competing against the best, so measuring a club’s success base on champions league glory is fair to me.

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November 17, 2022, 07:51:25 AM
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Xavi got everyone he wanted in the summer (putting Barcelona in an even more difficult financial position) but Barcelona continue to lose every big game. What do you say if this continues and the result of the season is second place in La Liga again? Barcelona are on the verge of bankruptcy and I don't think they can wait longer than 2 seasons for a good result from Xavi. In modern football, this is more than the maximum term.
Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
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November 17, 2022, 08:10:39 AM
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What we see is a very drastic decline for Sevilla by touching the relegation zone while all the teams are avoiding it but because Sevilla's performance is bad, they have to be satisfied with their current position with 11 points the same as Cadiz. This is bad luck in my opinion for Sevilla.
Even in the Champions League, Sevilla cannot qualify and only enter the European league caste, although there is still hope if management can fix the problem that has made Sevilla shrink in its performance.
I'm still optimistic that Sevilla can survive in LaLiga because they might be able to improve even more.
It is clear that Sevilla has performed poorly this season in two different competitions, the Champions League and Laliga. They can't be expected if they don't invest a lot of money in the transfer market this time. Defence, midfield and striker have looked terrible for them this season and even a change of coach hasn't been able to make them any better until now.

The problem may be the player's self-confidence has dropped dramatically so that this has made them play badly. I don't really want them to be like a mediocre team this season, really. Sevilla must get up and do everything possible to get their players motivated and confident again to win the match. At 18 on the table, it's not really a position one could imagine earlier this season for them.

if you don't have two teams in your squad (practically) you are destined for this drop
the year my beloved team, Atalanta, went to the champions league was a disaster..
the champions league gives you a lot of money, but it totally consumes you

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November 17, 2022, 08:17:23 AM
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Xavi got everyone he wanted in the summer (putting Barcelona in an even more difficult financial position) but Barcelona continue to lose every big game. What do you say if this continues and the result of the season is second place in La Liga again? Barcelona are on the verge of bankruptcy and I don't think they can wait longer than 2 seasons for a good result from Xavi. In modern football, this is more than the maximum term.
Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
Barcelona must not win the La Liga title, if they end up second in the league Xavi should not be judged based on that and you talk about financial problems,  Barcelona knows their financial capacity before they went ahead to make one of the highest signing in the just closed transfer window.
It is not the trophy that bring the money back to the club the difference between the money given to the first position and second position is not that much to bring back Barcelona to financial stability. There is more to do than trying to win the Liga title

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November 17, 2022, 08:20:32 AM
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I think Barcelona still has some weaknesses, Barcelona always looks dominant when playing with a team below its level.  however, if you meet a big team like in the El Classico match. Barcelona has difficulty, especially to keep up with the style of play from more established opposing teams. that is, Barcelona is not too strong and Xavi must fix the weaknesses of his troops.  Regarding who will be the champion in this competition, the La Liga schedule still has 24 matches remaining. only two points away from first and second place.

As for Real Madrid, so far Madrid has remained a strong candidate to win the trophy in this competition. a distance of two points from Barcelona is not an obstacle for them to regain the top of the standings. well, so in the end. only the most consistent team will be able to win the La Liga title.
You are right and that is why they failed in the champions league and are doing better in the league this season. They get wins  easily but struggle to win games when they play against big teams like Real Madrid, PSG , Bayern Munich etc. This is a troubling issue that needs to be addressed and fixed because to compete in European top flight you have to be able to compete against top teams.
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November 17, 2022, 08:24:15 AM
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I think Barcelona still has some weaknesses, Barcelona always looks dominant when playing with a team below its level.  however, if you meet a big team like in the El Classico match. Barcelona has difficulty, especially to keep up with the style of play from more established opposing teams. that is, Barcelona is not too strong and Xavi must fix the weaknesses of his troops.  Regarding who will be the champion in this competition, the La Liga schedule still has 24 matches remaining. only two points away from first and second place.

As for Real Madrid, so far Madrid has remained a strong candidate to win the trophy in this competition. a distance of two points from Barcelona is not an obstacle for them to regain the top of the standings. well, so in the end. only the most consistent team will be able to win the La Liga title.
You are right and that is why they failed in the champions league and are doing better in the league this season. They get wins  easily but struggle to win games when they play against big teams like Real Madrid, PSG , Bayern Munich etc. This is a troubling issue that needs to be addressed and fixed because to compete in European top flight you have to be able to compete against top teams.
The biggest weak point of Barcelona's team is their weak defense. One of the reasons why they lose most of the matches is because of their poor defensive performance. If Barcelona want to move forward, the first step they need to take now is the defense.

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November 17, 2022, 08:59:04 AM
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I can't say that Xavi Hernandez is one of the coaches that Barcelona has, because he just started coaching Barcelona, I still want to see how far he can consistently build Barcelona's performance. However, I don't rule out that Xavi Hernandez can become one of the best coaches Barcelona has,
We will judge better from next season, we will be able to tell if the team is finally at the stage that xavi wants it to get or still struggling. They crashed out of the champions league this season quickly, next season if they qualify for the champions league, it will be expected of them to do better, and more eyes and pressure will be on the Xavi to see if he is making good use of all the talented players they have in the team.
I give it to Savi and Barcelona this season, they are trying their best at least in the league. I doubted if they could do more judging by their last season's performance with 7 losses and 10 draws. For them to achieve the second position even means that La Liga is not performing well generally. So, I don't worry about them winning the champions league. Many leagues are better than the current Barcelona now in Europe.

The performance in their country's league must be improved in terms of the number of losses and draws matches before they will have better hope of reaching the last stages of the champions league.

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November 17, 2022, 11:03:07 AM
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The biggest weak point of Barcelona's team is their weak defense. One of the reasons why they lose most of the matches is because of their poor defensive performance. If Barcelona want to move forward, the first step they need to take now is the defense.

So what do you think is the problem with defense? Is it the poor quality of the stoppers or is it a tactical problem? Christensen and Alonso came from Chelsea, they know each other. They should have gotten a good fit. Since Pique retired from football, it may be necessary to get another central defender numerically. There is a new signing Kounde, and there is also Garcia. Actually they have 4 good defenders but they are not at superstar level yet. I don't think it's a big deal on defense. In fact, Barcelona was defeated only once in the league and drew once. They conceded only 5 goals in 14 matches. This looks like a pretty good stats. I can't agree with the view that it's a defense issue.

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November 17, 2022, 11:37:08 AM
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It is not the trophy that bring the money back to the club the difference between the money given to the first position and second position is not that much to bring back Barcelona to financial stability. There is more to do than trying to win the Liga title


Title prize money will not cover the money that has been spent on buying players. But after being able to raise the level of the game and buy good players, not getting the title will be disappointing. I think if there's a coach who hasn't given a trophy for a long time and it's a big club then that coach will certainly come under pressure or could have been sacked. Nowadays achievements are synonymous with money, those who have a lot of money can buy great players for achievements.

Barcelona splashed €153 million in the summer of 2022 and Total Gross Salaries for the 2022-2023 Season is €317,340,000, or €6,102,692 per week. It hasn't been the money used for the others. So Barcelona must have money three or four times its total expenditure.  That's so that Barcelona can stay competitive. In addition, we must remember that there is an FFP that must be adhered to.

Source: https://www.capology.com/club/barcelona/salaries/

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November 17, 2022, 12:20:31 PM
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I think Barcelona still has some weaknesses, Barcelona always looks dominant when playing with a team below its level.  however, if you meet a big team like in the El Classico match. Barcelona has difficulty, especially to keep up with the style of play from more established opposing teams. that is, Barcelona is not too strong and Xavi must fix the weaknesses of his troops.  Regarding who will be the champion in this competition, the La Liga schedule still has 24 matches remaining. only two points away from first and second place.

As for Real Madrid, so far Madrid has remained a strong candidate to win the trophy in this competition. a distance of two points from Barcelona is not an obstacle for them to regain the top of the standings. well, so in the end. only the most consistent team will be able to win the La Liga title.
You are right and that is why they failed in the champions league and are doing better in the league this season. They get wins  easily but struggle to win games when they play against big teams like Real Madrid, PSG , Bayern Munich etc. This is a troubling issue that needs to be addressed and fixed because to compete in European top flight you have to be able to compete against top teams.
The biggest weak point of Barcelona's team is their weak defense. One of the reasons why they lose most of the matches is because of their poor defensive performance. If Barcelona want to move forward, the first step they need to take now is the defense.

Barcelona have them, it's just that their key player picked up an injury after the international break. Ronald Arajujo, Jules Kounde, Andreas Christensen, can be counted on in defense. it's just that Barcelona's defeat to Bayern Munich was purely the fault of their veteran players who really underperformed. Likewise when playing against Inter Milan, there were many mistakes made in the defense sector.

IMO, Barcelona have players who are qualified to be tough opponents in a competition more prestigious than La Liga. however, they still have many flaws, weaknesses and the strategic role of Xavi who is overly confident. Xavi is more dominant in relying on their wing players, so the midfield war is not too visible "in crucial matches" Dembele, Raphinha did not contribute too much to that match, as well as the role of the young midfielder that Barcelona has.

Barcelona's defeat is not only that they are not strong, it's just that there are many mistakes and the players are underperforming.  As a result, Barcelona was eliminated. next, Xavi has homework to improve the weaknesses of his players and the strategies he applies. if Xavi, can create strong bonding and chemistry for his troops. I am optimistic, Barcelona can win the La Liga trophy this season.

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November 17, 2022, 01:17:10 PM
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I think Barcelona still has some weaknesses, Barcelona always looks dominant when playing with a team below its level.  however, if you meet a big team like in the El Classico match. Barcelona has difficulty, especially to keep up with the style of play from more established opposing teams. that is, Barcelona is not too strong and Xavi must fix the weaknesses of his troops.  Regarding who will be the champion in this competition, the La Liga schedule still has 24 matches remaining. only two points away from first and second place.

As for Real Madrid, so far Madrid has remained a strong candidate to win the trophy in this competition. a distance of two points from Barcelona is not an obstacle for them to regain the top of the standings. well, so in the end. only the most consistent team will be able to win the La Liga title.
You are right and that is why they failed in the champions league and are doing better in the league this season. They get wins  easily but struggle to win games when they play against big teams like Real Madrid, PSG , Bayern Munich etc. This is a troubling issue that needs to be addressed and fixed because to compete in European top flight you have to be able to compete against top teams.
I think the clubs in the Champions League are clearly still quite unbalanced for the current Barcelona. But in La Liga, it shouldn't be a problem if Barcelona only needs to focus on competing with Real Madrid. If you compare clubs in the Champions League with La Liga, the level is far enough, Barcelona has failed because they still can't balance classy games and have experienced players, one of which is, of course, Bayern Munich. Statistics at the moment Barcelona lead the top of the La Liga standings, only 2 points advantage and I think it is still not safe enough if Real Madrid is below it.

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November 17, 2022, 01:34:57 PM
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Xavi got everyone he wanted in the summer (putting Barcelona in an even more difficult financial position) but Barcelona continue to lose every big game. What do you say if this continues and the result of the season is second place in La Liga again? Barcelona are on the verge of bankruptcy and I don't think they can wait longer than 2 seasons for a good result from Xavi. In modern football, this is more than the maximum term.
Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
No, Xavi is not leaving Barcelona and the club will not allow that to happen. Trust in Xavi is still very high, Barcelona still has the chance to win La Liga and UEL. Xavi needed time to rebuild the Barcelona squad, economic difficulties hampered Xavi's work a bit but he was able to persuade Laporta to bring in several players in the last transfer market.

Slowly Barcelona performance has improved under Xavi direction, after a very long wait they have managed to return to first place.
Barcelona needs additional income to balance income with expenses, winning several titles can lighten Barcelona burden. The world cup could also work in Barcelona's favour, if a player gets knocked out in the group stage his club will receive €180k. Reaching the round of 16 will be awarded €220k, Qfs €280k and the Final €370k. Barcelona will benefit greatly if Spain makes it to the final.

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November 17, 2022, 01:45:32 PM
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Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
I'm not really sure what I read in the media, sometimes it's not true and can't be believed. We know Barcelona's finances are not great, but they are still operating and being a competitive team in the league. I know Barcelona owe their players salaries, but that's an internal team problem that really has nothing to do with a lot of people.

So far, sponsors seem to be helping Barcelona a lot to reduce the financial burden facing the team. It may never solve everything, but chances are sponsorship will help mitigate the problem. If that doesn't help much, then I believe Barcelona will have to sell a lot of their assets again.

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November 17, 2022, 01:47:25 PM
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I think the clubs in the Champions League are clearly still quite unbalanced for the current Barcelona.
Barcelona are no longer strong as same as they were in the past but they should win more matches in group stage. I felt Barcelona have psychological issues in Champions League too. They are not confident about themselves in Champions League and it is a big difference than they were about 5 or 10 years ago.

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But in La Liga, it shouldn't be a problem if Barcelona only needs to focus on competing with Real Madrid. If you compare clubs in the Champions League with La Liga, the level is far enough, Barcelona has failed because they still can't balance classy games and have experienced players, one of which is, of course, Bayern Munich.
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La Liga has a league format that is long enough for a club to make mistakes and correct them later but still are able to win a league trophy. Many young players of Barcelona are more familiar with La Liga than Champions League. It impacts their performance in Champions League too.

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Statistics at the moment Barcelona lead the top of the La Liga standings, only 2 points advantage and I think it is still not safe enough if Real Madrid is below it.
Having two points in difference and having a first position is better than no difference and having lower ranking. From now, Barcelona can be more confident that they are strong enough to beat many clubs in La Liga. It will motivate them more and give them a fire in order to win their first La Liga in recent seasons. It is very meaningful to win it with a new player generation and a young coach who are all like a future of Barcelona.

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November 17, 2022, 02:06:48 PM
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The biggest weak point of Barcelona's team is their weak defense. One of the reasons why they lose most of the matches is because of their poor defensive performance. If Barcelona want to move forward, the first step they need to take now is the defense.
From what I have seen so far the defense of the Barcelona team is not so bad and even better than some other teams in La Liga. And for now Barcelona is also at the top of the standings although in general the position is still not safe because Real Madrid can still be overtaken, but at least Barcelona has proven itself to still have the ability to compete and try to get a trophy in La Liga this season.

Because of all the teams that Barcelona have to beat this season in La Liga, Real Madrid is a very important opponent for Barcelona to beat if Barcelona is to get a bigger chance of bringing home the trophy this season.

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November 17, 2022, 02:28:31 PM
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Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
I'm not really sure what I read in the media, sometimes it's not true and can't be believed. We know Barcelona's finances are not great, but they are still operating and being a competitive team in the league. I know Barcelona owe their players salaries, but that's an internal team problem that really has nothing to do with a lot of people.

So far, sponsors seem to be helping Barcelona a lot to reduce the financial burden facing the team. It may never solve everything, but chances are sponsorship will help mitigate the problem. If that doesn't help much, then I believe Barcelona will have to sell a lot of their assets again.

If Barcelona cannot win the La Liga title, they will have to face a huge financial loss. Because they have already left the Champions League. The team has many loans, which they desperately need to win the La Liga title to pay off.

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