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Author Topic: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain  (Read 44072 times)
Tytanowy Janusz
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May 30, 2020, 09:12:06 AM
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Any chance a mobile app will come for this project?

It's on pipeline but buried very deeply under more important things like sharding.

BTW. Make your guesses regarding this validation. How many node will we see? My guess is 2260 - 2300.
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May 30, 2020, 09:12:22 AM
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Holly mother!
This kind of exchanges/people are a shame for the space.

I never used qbtc, but thanks for the tip, tho. Newbies should avoid it.

Any chance a mobile app will come for this project?

It's on pipeline but buried very deeply under more important things like sharding.
For the mobile wallet, maybe they could try to integrate it with: https://www.chainzilla.io/chameleonpay.html
I know they integrate custom coins like Bismuth. I don't know how much is the fee, tho.

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May 30, 2020, 11:57:27 AM
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For the mobile wallet, maybe they could try to integrate it with: https://www.chainzilla.io/chameleonpay.html
I know they integrate custom coins like Bismuth. I don't know how much is the fee, tho.

This will not be full node/wallet. Only Lightweight -wallet that does not support mining - only for transfers.

@Script3d if you needed something like that than we have community-made light wallet for WEB. It's listed in here - https://idena-apps.org/apps.html - "A Lightweight web wallet for IdenaBy Idena-dev".
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May 30, 2020, 02:17:33 PM
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I am confident that all my answers are good and correct but now my account is now suspended and I read so many people are also suspended in the telegram I can accept being suspended but not with network error, the explorer is also showing error
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I hope things will be ok and those who believe they are not suspended should be restored.


EDIT : the explorer shows I missed validation when in fact I participated and I believe I passed it
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May 30, 2020, 03:28:18 PM
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Validation failed, but..... https://scan.idena.io/identity/0xf6d220bffc5121289c4d34258e0604b039385b03/epoch/46/validation#shortAnswers
 Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

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May 30, 2020, 03:30:18 PM
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The problem is a bug, it has nothing to do with your answers. I'm sure you've done everything right, you can see here that 60% of the nodes have been suspended...

https://idena.today/validation.php?e=46

I hope we rollback.
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May 30, 2020, 06:30:36 PM
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The problem is a bug, it has nothing to do with your answers. I'm sure you've done everything right, you can see here that 60% of the nodes have been suspended...

https://idena.today/validation.php?e=46

I hope we rollback.

i also hope, i had good answers, i am pretty sure, did a validation, and now lost my newbie status (should be verified after this one, it was third in a row, and had 12/12 up to this point), do not know what happened, but it should be cleared
there is a lot of cases like mine, and they said on telegram that it was an unknown problem, which will be investigated, hopefully solution will be good for everyone supporting the project
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May 31, 2020, 01:05:39 AM
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Idena devs keeping all the invitation rewards for the invitations they give out and not reimbursing individuals for lost time this epoch does not spark joy  Huh Sad
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May 31, 2020, 03:27:39 AM
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They are not considering a rollback: https://medium.com/idena/may-30-2020-idena-validation-incident-report-e1c8ebd56ded

Looks like they are just happy this incident happened:


What a shame..

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May 31, 2020, 04:17:17 AM
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"The Idena development team does not see any possibility and does not intend to initiate a hard fork for a rollback of Killed/Suspended identity statuses or for reimbursement of missed rewards."
Greedy bastards decision.

As you like to tell everyone and everywhere - this is a Proof of Person project. Proof of PERSON. Person is the key word and the main element of the whole network.
But with such an attitude towards persons, when 2205 people failed validation due to devs technical errors, and 1033 killed and lost forever, there will be no success.
This is the devs fault and they are obliged to roll back. And what is the test network? So roll back on the test network. An excuse at the level of a kindergarten.
Disrespectful and disregard.

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May 31, 2020, 05:31:18 AM
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Like all the others I feel disappointed, some passed the validation and now they continue to mine again, but the majority of us are not on a waiting status of the next validation, the price has crumbled, I'm pretty sure some investors lose their money here, so the network is not strong and there's a possibility that this scenario can happen again, I advise investors to take it slow to pour money in, Bitcoin and other top coins are more secure.

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May 31, 2020, 07:55:13 AM
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Selling some idena domains for 1200 DNA.

idena.best
idena.cam
idena.email
idena.fun
idena.host
idena.life
idena.online
idena.pw
idena.rocks
idena.store
idena.work

These domains were bought for more than 100 euro, so I expect to sell them at package all of them for 1200 DNA.

They will be transfered through namecheap.

discord : J.#2321
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All this hate, all this dump, all this "network not secure" is only about 50% of miners are not able to mine for 10 days. That's it. I know some may be frustrated about that. Some newbies lost stake.
 I'm frustrated about this situation too (my two human nodes are suspended now and one of them has 9000 DNA in stake that is endangered if I fail next validation. I also lost 2 validation, flips, invitations rewards that for sure is more than any newbie lost) but it is only "50% of miners are not able to mine for 10 days" due to bug. Dev's will fix it and we will start fresh with new epoch.

Network works for 46 epochs, funds are safu (other than stake), goals do not change, the foundations have not changed. This is still innovative, one and only, proof of person coin. There is no need to panic.



Can't wait next validation to see how this chart will looks like.

@othell_rogue Community admin jokes out of context...

This is the devs fault and they are obliged to roll back. And what is the test network? So roll back on the test network. An excuse at the level of a kindergarten.
Disrespectful and disregard.

I have mixed feelings about that. This is blockchain. It should be irreversible. Roll back might also be unsafe and create risks and additional costs exceeding profits (i'm not an expert here).
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May 31, 2020, 09:59:19 AM
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@othell_rogue Community admin jokes out of context...

This is the devs fault and they are obliged to roll back. And what is the test network? So roll back on the test network. An excuse at the level of a kindergarten.
Disrespectful and disregard.

I have mixed feelings about that. This is blockchain. It should be irreversible. Roll back might also be unsafe and create risks and additional costs exceeding profits (i'm not an expert here).

On-topic:

When 65% of the network identities are killed/suspended, you can't joke in public, especially as "Community Admin". People lost money, they are upset. My 2 cents!

I agree, blockchain should be irreversible. +1


Off-topic:

Anyone by chance have 1 invite? Would be appreciated.

I am one of the 1170 unlucky Suspended identities (and I can't take the risk off being killed next time).

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May 31, 2020, 11:19:47 AM
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Just this...

2205 people failed validation and 1033 killed...  Lips sealed
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May 31, 2020, 01:14:45 PM
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They are not considering a rollback: https://medium.com/idena/may-30-2020-idena-validation-incident-report-e1c8ebd56ded

Looks like they are just happy this incident happened:


What a shame..
I'm not sure if they are developers or just community admins, but their reaction is not appropriate. It is still testnet so situations can happen in the future and there is no one to blame.
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May 31, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
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Just this...

2205 people failed validation and 1033 killed...  Lips sealed


Where are those numbers from? As i see there are 623 killed.


I also added epoch 45 for comparison. We may assume that bug created extra 300 killed (above normal) and extra 900 suspended.

I'm not sure if they are developers or just community admins, but their reaction is not appropriate. It is still testnet so situations can happen in the future and there is no one to blame.

What inappropriate is in laughing through tears to cheer up community if it is only fragment of chat taken out of context and not official announcement?
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May 31, 2020, 11:00:53 PM
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Off-topic:

Anyone by chance have 1 invite? Would be appreciated.

I am one of the 1170 unlucky Suspended identities (and I can't take the risk off being killed next time).


You don't need a new invitation when "suspended", you just need to wait until the next validation and pass it. If you were killed yes, you need a new invitation for sure.  

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June 01, 2020, 06:21:47 AM
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Selling some idena domains for 1200 DNA.

idena.best
idena.cam
idena.email
idena.fun
idena.host
idena.life
idena.online
idena.pw
idena.rocks
idena.store
idena.work

These domains were bought for more than 100 euro, so I expect to sell them at package all of them for 1200 DNA.

They will be transfered through namecheap.

discord : J.#2321

So you are thinking ahead just like all the early Bitcoin adopters by buying the majority of the extensions associated with IDENA, I agree that this project has a good potential but it will take 2 to 3 years before it really takes off and demand for those domain names, you should have sold it individually with 100% profit.

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June 01, 2020, 08:57:56 AM
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You don't need a new invitation when "suspended", you just need to wait until the next validation and pass it. If you were killed yes, you need a new invitation for sure.  

Yes, I know, but since I am suspended, I can't take the chance of being killed and loose the stake, so I'll just terminate my identity to be safe and start all over.

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