[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[ZiG]

Is there import duty on these for USA?

NOT that I know of...

[bobsag3]

Is there import duty on these for USA?

Nope.

[philipma1957]

Is there import duty on these for USA?

no computers are duty free to the usa.

I posted my 2 person group buy in group buys.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577035.0

[BitCoin Operated Boy]

  I take this as a personal insult!

jog on, troll.

Guys, let's keep the discussion civilised

Here. Listen to some cool Bitcoin song :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQ2nPSL5-0

[Guy Corem]

LOL

[Guy Corem]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg6301383#msg6301383

So true. Especially the last paragraph. First hand experience.

[smooth]

no computers are duty free to the usa.

I think it may depend on where they're coming from. That's why I'm asking.

It would surprise me if imports of this type of equipment from Israel were subject to an import duty, but you never know.

[Guy Corem]

no computers are duty free to the usa.

I think it may depend on where they're coming from. That's why I'm asking.

It would surprise me if imports of this type of equipment from Israel were subject to an import duty, but you never know.

We didn't have any issue with any US customer and VAT

[gurki]

The SP30s can't be run at home without modification to the electrical system right?  I have a 110V system now. What changes would i have to get an electrician to make that would allow me to run 1-4 of these babies at home?

Hoping to get some input from Spondoolies-Tech or knowledgeable members.

Thanks.

[Guy Corem]

The SP30s can't be run at home without modification to the electrical system right?  I have a 110V system now. What changes would i have to get an electrician to make that would allow me to run 1-4 of these babies at home?

Hoping to get some input from Spondoolies-Tech or knowledgeable members.

Thanks.

You can run them on 110V, they'll produce a bit less hash-rate.
Probably around 5.1 TH/s

Hosting is another option.

[xstr8guy]

Is there import duty on these for USA?

no computers are duty free to the usa.

I posted my 2 person group buy in group buys.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577035.0

Let me add the proper punctuation since your response reads contrary to what you intended.

"No. Computers are duty free to the USA."

We pay no VAT or other taxes as well.

[wpgdeez]

The SP30s can't be run at home wiin your electrical panel. .hout modification to the electrical system right?  I have a 110V system now. What changes would i have to get an electrician to make that would allow me to run 1-4 of these babies at home?

Hoping to get some input from Spondoolies-Tech or knowledgeable members.

Thanks.

All you need is a 30 amp 240v dual pole breaker. It will let you run over 6000 watts safely, takes up 2 spots In your electrical panel.

[2112]

The SP30s can't be run at home without modification to the electrical system right?  I have a 110V system now. What changes would i have to get an electrician to make that would allow me to run 1-4 of these babies at home?

Hoping to get some input from Spondoolies-Tech or knowledgeable members.

Thanks.

Only an electrician can truthfully answer your question after doing a brief inspection.

In the USA the 3-phase power (A,B,C) is most often distributed as an equivalent 6-phase power (A,-A,B,-B,C,-C) when each of the residential hookups gets a matching pair of (A,-A), (B,-B) or (C,-C). So you may already have 220V power although all your outlets are 110V. Even the wiring may be already there, but just the outlet wall plates are 110V to avoid confusion or mistakes.

Places where the power is really true single-phase 110V are comparatively rare.

You'll have to ask an licensed electrician, because frequently even the owners of premises don't know the real situation. You could also ask your electric utility representative over the phone, but sometimes they don't have the real, up-to-date information, since their responsibility ends at the panel with the power meter.

Edit: Here's a more detailed explanation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-phase_electric_power . For your own safety, you shouldn't ask non-Northern-Americans for advice about the electric hookups. Even well-meaning, educated people may be unfamiliar with the historical quirks in the North-American Electrical Code that date all the way back to Thomas Alva Edison.

[ZiG]

The SP30s can't be run at home without modification to the electrical system right?  I have a 110V system now. What changes would i have to get an electrician to make that would allow me to run 1-4 of these babies at home?

Hoping to get some input from Spondoolies-Tech or knowledgeable members.

Thanks.

Only an electrician can truthfully answer your question after doing a brief inspection.

In the USA the 3-phase power (A,B,C) is most often distributed as an equivalent 6-phase power (A,-A,B,-B,C,-C) when each of the residential hookups gets a matching pair of (A,-A), (B,-B) or (C,-C). So you may already have 220V power although all your outlets are 110V. Even the wiring may be already there, but just the outlet wall plates are 110V to avoid confusion or mistakes.

Places where the power is really true single-phase 110V are comparatively rare.

You'll have to ask an licensed electrician, because frequently even the owners of premises don't know the real situation. You could also ask your electric utility representative over the phone, but sometimes they don't have the real, up-to-date information, since their responsibility ends at the panel with the power meter.

Edit: Here's a more detailed explanation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-phase_electric_power . For your own safety, you shouldn't ask non-Northern-Americans for advice about the electric hookups. Even well-meaning, educated people may be unfamiliar with the historical quirks in the North-American Electrical Code that date all the way back to Thomas Alva Edison.

I am NOT an electrician either...but have been dealing a lot with electric power issues in my own house ...as well as my company's warehouse(s)...

US houses are usually provided with 'standard' electric service of 110 v AND 200Amp  power...with 208v outlets usually for the AC, dryer, stove and water heater... In my house I can not touch these circuits as they are in daily use...

Only qualified electrician could modify your existing panel with additional 208v loops and outlets...my quote was less than a $1000...

The price of electric power is another very important factor...@ 6KW *24 * 30 =  4320 KWH per month ...at my rate of $0.15 = more than $600 monthly...

This is why I turned OFF my 5 Scrypt muners ...3 x 290x each...14Mh total ...the end of March and sold them last week for 35-45% loss...not happy at all...

[canford]

Standard electrical power in the U.S. is delivered in two 110-120V legs, center-tap neutral grounded at the entry to the house.  Call the legs A and B, neutral N and ground G.  The voltage between A and B is 220-240 VAC, between A and N is 110-120 VAC, and between B and N 110-120 VAC.  Typically, stoves, clothes dryers and water heaters are 220-240V.  The rest of the house is split between the two legs, for 110-120V to each circuit.  Grounded circuits have been required since the late 1970's, so half of the circuits are A-N-G and the other half B-N-G.  For a 220-240V circuit, you need A-B-G.  For the SP10s I ordered, I installed NEMA 6-15 outlets with A-B-G so I can run them at 240V.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector for details.  This is a routine job for an electrician, because NEMA 6-15 outlets are commonly used for air conditioners.  Local hardware stores carry NEMA 6-15 plugs, cords and outlets.  A custom cord is required to plug an SP10 in that way.  240V is pretty dangerous, so use a licensed electrician and don't try it yourself unless you know what you are doing.

[smooth]

Spondoolies, did you say something earlier in the thread about running the SP10 at above 35 degrees ambient (spec limit)?

[2112]

with 208v outlets usually for the AC, dryer, stove and water heater...

For those wondering about how one could get 208V in the USA:

208 =~ 120 * sqrt(3)

This is inter-phase voltage from a standard 3-phase circuit, in my notation from previous post it would be (A,B) or (B,C) or (C,A).

120V is the typical unloaded voltage from a modern single-phase circuit, which used to be specified as 110V according to the old electrical code.

Why am I writing this? To underscore that if somebody mixes 110V and 208V in a same sentence that person is most likely not qualified to give electrical advice. Qualified electricians would speak of 120/208 or maybe 110/190. This is minor nitpick, but in my experience it really correlates with those without proper qualifications.

ZiG at least was very open with that:

I am NOT an electrician either...

Edit: And again a link to more in-depth discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity#Standardisation

[Soros Shorts]

Standard electrical power in the U.S. is delivered in two 110-120V legs, center-tap neutral grounded at the entry to the house.  Call the legs A and B, neutral N and ground G.  The voltage between A and B is 220-240 VAC, between A and N is 110-120 VAC, and between B and N 110-120 VAC.  Typically, stoves, clothes dryers and water heaters are 220-240V.  The rest of the house is split between the two legs, for 110-120V to each circuit.  Grounded circuits have been required since the late 1970's, so half of the circuits are A-N-G and the other half B-N-G.  For a 220-240V circuit, you need A-B-G.  For the SP10s I ordered, I installed NEMA 6-15 outlets with A-B-G so I can run them at 240V.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector for details.  This is a routine job for an electrician, because NEMA 6-15 outlets are commonly used for air conditioners.  Local hardware stores carry NEMA 6-15 plugs, cords and outlets. A custom cord is required to plug an SP10 in that way.  240V is pretty dangerous, so use a licensed electrician and don't try it yourself unless you know what you are doing.

I am hoping that we will be able to use standard NEMA 6-15 power cords. These work for regular ATX power supplies running at 240V.

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-240-Digital-Ballast/dp/B00EJVZLNC/

Edit: I also remember reading in some other thread about how some forum members did their own wiring and basically re-purposed NEMA 5-15/20 outlets for 240V so they can use regular 120V power cords. I think that this is just asking for trouble.

[blaiser]

For those of you who have reservations doing business with Spondoolies…

Let me start by first admitting I hate writing and I have always been envious of those who can. Takes me hours to get across what I want to say and I’m sure this won’t be any different. I said I would tell my story so here it is, it’s the least I could do for the Spondoolies Team.

I started becoming aware of Bitcoin probably at the same time a lot of you have, when it became news worthy after reaching $1,200 USD/BCD. I didn’t get my feet wet with it until it dropped to about $800.00 USD/BCD when I bought my first Bitcoin and we are all aware of the bearish price it’s at (for) now. But For me I’m pretty much in it for the long haul but messing with some trading too. I believe in the protocol and along with it the vertical market apps that we haven’t even seen come to surface yet.
A bit about me, I’m about to turn 60 and have been involved with computers since the mid 80’s and even ran a BBS (pre-internet days) back in 1987 . I have been a computer tech (those pesky spyware, virus removals and data recovery from crashed hard drives) and who knows how many new computer preps and server preps. From back in the DOS days through to Win8.1. I have been doing it commercially for over 20 years, hence I have a fascination in computer hardware/software. The point I’m trying to make here is, I’m not noob to computers in general.

Having only a small amount of money to invest (I cashed in on my 401k, it wasn’t enough to get me very far anyway) I decided to go all in on a Bitcoin machine and placed my original order with Butterfly Labs back in January of this year. But before sending them the money (just 2 days later) I learn of KnC and there Neptune miner, so I quickly canceled my Butterfly order (and now that I think of it, I just never sent them the money, oops, sorry Butterfly) thinking wow, that was close! After doing my research on KnC I finally pulled the trigger and placed an order with them for a Neptune on 1/9/14. I had the money wired to them on or about 1/11/14 to get in on the waiting list. I would read there forums almost daily but most of the discussions were others who were also in line, speculating about this-and-that, some positive stuff but mostly negative and once in a while you might hear something from Kurt, a KnC reprehensive.

In the meantime while doing some more Bitcoin research I learn of Spondoolies, as most would do, I began reading there forum and noticed that questions were being answered and answered in a timely manner! Contributors to the forums were what I would consider mostly negative, some even uneducated (meaning meaningless questions), some with chips on their shoulders (I’m sure probably justified from having lost money in other deals), and trolly ones, (is there such a word? Lol) but whatever the case, people were giving Spondoolies the third degree with a flood of questions/comments. From what I could tell just about, if not all, were answered (even some that I felt didn’t deserve a reply, but they did anyway). So to say the least, these folks got my attention.

So here I go again, I thought what should I do? After some agonizing brain-storming and actually a gut feeling, I placed an order with them thinking I better not wait this deal might sell out pretty quick! I ordered what was, at the time, the heavily discounted “1x Better Together SP10 + SP30 April + August for $13930” that included FREE shipping on March 23! The next day on March 24th I emailed KnC to start the refund process. I think it was about 2 days later Spondoolies sold out of the package deal! I’m like crap, how am I going to get the money to them in time. In comes Gadi Glikberg, VP Marketing and Sales, in the picture for the first time, he is my first contact representing the company and I’m greeted with a friendly welcome that included a thank you for ordering. I replied to his email with a hello and then an explanation of my predicament that included KnC’s return policy of 3-10 days. I asked if they would be willing to wait for my refund from KnC and no hard feelings should they choose not to. Gadi replied (quickly as usual when possible) and included in his email that they would honor my reservation and wait the 10 business days (even though they already sold out and technically I didn’t have the funds to them in time). Now keep in mind, they don’t know me from Adam. Also note that they work Sunday through Thursday, should you need a questioned answered on a Friday (Gaudi had pointed that out, I wasn’t aware of it).

I received my refund from KnC and Spondoolies received my refund on April 10th. (How that went down is another whole story in itself, huh Gadi) It’s only fair to point out here, my hats off to KnC for honoring there refund policy!

Oh and I all most forgot to mention and this is important, my refund was not enough to cover the whole amount due to Spondoolies! So I also had to coordinate getting the balance due out of my bank and wired to them within the 10 days, as you see, they had already let me go over a few days of the agreed time because of some complications already (I have to stop here and say people, you can’t expect them to do this for everyone, I’m sure they felt they were at a point of know return with me, lucky for me). Now check this out, after about 4 emails and 3 phone calls that included my request for the wire transfer in USD it got escalated to the V.P of my bank (that I’ve been doing business with for nearly 30 years) and they wound up denying wire transfer! I kept cool and fortunately I had already set up a Coinbase account. Spondoolies granted me permission to pay them in Bitcoin. So now in comes Guy Corem, (who at the time I didn’t realize was Spondoolies) CEO into the picture. Gadi was it a case of email burn-out from me? Lol Nah, I know better, he bent over backwards for meal the while closing bigger deals then my one order, so he politely excused himself and said “I’m going to hand you over to “Guy” to help you with the Bitcoin transfer”, I.E. the rest of the money. To spare those of you who made it this far reading, there is a bunch more to the story on how these guys went way above and beyond, Guy saw it through to the end and with his help and persistence completed the transaction.

They even shipped my SP10 – Dawson a couple days earlier on a Wednesday before the bitcoin balance had been received AND I received it here in the U.S. on Friday, 2 days later! As I write this it’s hard a work doing its thing, mining for Bitcoin.

Thank you Guy, Gadi, and the rest of the behind the scenes Spondoolies family.

~Blaise

[ZiG]

with 208v outlets usually for the AC, dryer, stove and water heater...

For those wondering about how one could get 208V in the USA:

208 =~ 120 * sqrt(3)

This is inter-phase voltage from a standard 3-phase circuit, in my notation from previous post it would be (A,B) or (B,C) or (C,A).

120V is the typical unloaded voltage from a modern single-phase circuit, which used to be specified as 110V according to the old electrical code.

Why am I writing this? To underscore that if somebody mixes 110V and 208V in a same sentence that person is most likely not qualified to give electrical advice. Qualified electricians would speak of 120/208 or maybe 110/190. This is minor nitpick, but in my experience it really correlates with those without proper qualifications.

ZiG at least was very open with that:

I am NOT an electrician either...

Edit: And again a link to more in-depth discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity#Standardisation

Hey 2112,

Thanks for citing me twice in your post...but I don't understand exactly..."What is your problem...?" with my posting...

Cheers,

ZiG