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February 22, 2022, 07:00:06 PM
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Reading some frankly dumb headlines about Messi being vindicated because of mistakes made by Neymar (penalty, of course, yes it was weak but he also scored so the media is being unfair I think, even if I did previously say Mbappe should be PK taker) and worse, because of Wijnaldum's handball. I mean come on everybody gives away sometimes it was obviously unintentional right. Anyway, 10 points lead (considering game extra). It's nothing.
When you spend a fortune in a player but he performs like an ordinary player and he miss a penalty then everyone will roast him. They will criticise everything in fact related to him until he returns to his actual performance then they will say that's the player we know. Personally I am still waiting for way more from him..

Yes, Neymar's stats don't look like the top 1 player in the world https://www.transfermarkt.us/fc-paris-saint-germain/toptorschuetzen/verein/583 - he looks worse than all his competitors and it seems unlikely that he will ever be able to repeat the words of Ibrahimovic "I came as a king and I leave as a legend"  Grin
Although it must be admitted that in the national team he has phenomenal statistics and he is close to the top.

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February 22, 2022, 07:14:43 PM
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Clermont are a really unpredictable team now. They defeated Rennes, Nice and Marseille not much time ago. They defeated the last two even in away matches. They are at the 15th position in the standings now and they are just fighting for not relegating at the end. It is really hard to understand this team's being this bad despite having the ability to win one of the best teams in the Ligue 1. Thanks to Clermont's defeating Marseille last week, Nice dropped the gap to one point again. The battle for the second position also is very good to watch.
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February 22, 2022, 07:15:23 PM
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Reading some frankly dumb headlines about Messi being vindicated because of mistakes made by Neymar (penalty, of course, yes it was weak but he also scored so the media is being unfair I think, even if I did previously say Mbappe should be PK taker) and worse, because of Wijnaldum's handball. I mean come on everybody gives away sometimes it was obviously unintentional right. Anyway, 10 points lead (considering game extra). It's nothing.
When you spend a fortune in a player but he performs like an ordinary player and he miss a penalty then everyone will roast him. They will criticise everything in fact related to him until he returns to his actual performance then they will say that's the player we know. Personally I am still waiting for way more from him..
Yes, Neymar's stats don't look like the top 1 player in the world https://www.transfermarkt.us/fc-paris-saint-germain/toptorschuetzen/verein/583 - he looks worse than all his competitors and it seems unlikely that he will ever be able to repeat the words of Ibrahimovic "I came as a king and I leave as a legend"  Grin
Although it must be admitted that in the national team he has phenomenal statistics and he is close to the top.

We have no doubt that Neymar is a great player. There are very few talented players like him in the world. But he also has a lot of problems. He wears lots of injuries. In the PSG team, he does not get a chance to play 20 matches every season. He has played only 11 matches this season. So despite being a talented player, he may not be a legend like Messi or Ronaldo.

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February 22, 2022, 07:19:00 PM
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When you spend a fortune in a player but he performs like an ordinary player and he miss a penalty then everyone will roast him. They will criticise everything in fact related to him until he returns to his actual performance then they will say that's the player we know. Personally I am still waiting for way more from him..
Every player must have an unlucky day in his career despite being the best player at this time. Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe, Benzema and many of the best players have missed penalties and they have been criticized and even booed for their fantastic contracts. It's easier for people to forget good performances and good contributions from any player when they don't live up to expectations in a match or two, it's not fair to them.

About Neymar I also feel that he has gone downhill this season with PSG. Some of the reasons so far are his condition which has suffered several injuries so he can not appear regularly for his team. I don't know what fans will say to PSG if this season they also fail in the Champions League. Bad words aside, fans will probably suggest PSG let go of many of their best players including Mbappe.


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February 23, 2022, 07:04:32 AM
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Reading some frankly dumb headlines about Messi being vindicated because of mistakes made by Neymar (penalty, of course, yes it was weak but he also scored so the media is being unfair I think, even if I did previously say Mbappe should be PK taker) and worse, because of Wijnaldum's handball. I mean come on everybody gives away sometimes it was obviously unintentional right. Anyway, 10 points lead (considering game extra). It's nothing.
When you spend a fortune in a player but he performs like an ordinary player and he miss a penalty then everyone will roast him. They will criticise everything in fact related to him until he returns to his actual performance then they will say that's the player we know. Personally I am still waiting for way more from him..

Yeah but this is a guy who's actually been giving less and less returns every season since he joined, so if they're not used to it by now, then they really need to wake up and snap out of it haha. What I mean is that Neymar being ineffective is not new, so he does not vindicate Messi at all. I guess we will all continue waiting if he wants to take PKs like that.

Put Mbappe in the PK and that's all everyone needs to do, or keep Messi and let him train.

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February 23, 2022, 08:21:56 AM
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We have no doubt that Neymar is a great player. There are very few talented players like him in the world. But he also has a lot of problems. He wears lots of injuries. In the PSG team, he does not get a chance to play 20 matches every season. He has played only 11 matches this season. So despite being a talented player, he may not be a legend like Messi or Ronaldo.
I agree with what you said if it's like neymar has lost a place in the main squad, I think the injuries that often hit him are one of the reasons he has lost a lot of games this season, besides that we know this season neymar has been absent several times due to having to defend his country international matches and of course that made him very tired and absent from PSG matches.

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February 23, 2022, 08:54:19 AM
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We have no doubt that Neymar is a great player. There are very few talented players like him in the world. But he also has a lot of problems. He wears lots of injuries. In the PSG team, he does not get a chance to play 20 matches every season. He has played only 11 matches this season. So despite being a talented player, he may not be a legend like Messi or Ronaldo.
I agree with what you said if it's like neymar has lost a place in the main squad, I think the injuries that often hit him are one of the reasons he has lost a lot of games this season, besides that we know this season neymar has been absent several times due to having to defend his country international matches and of course that made him very tired and absent from PSG matches.
After all, the squad that PSG has is not a weak squad, PSG has main players and second players with good quality. Therefore, even though Neymar is not included in the starting eleven, it is not a problem for PSG and also, Neymar's 30 years of age has become a risk that is increasingly prone to injury. Although indeed, it is undeniable that anyone who gets hit hard in a match, players will experience different injuries. Anyway, Neymar is still very much needed with good gameplay and not too greedy in scoring goals because even yesterday against Real Madrid even though Neymar came on as a substitute but Neymar can be an assist for Mbappe's goal.

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February 23, 2022, 08:56:39 AM
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Neymar is one of the very special players in football history. But the problem is that he gets injured very often. And I have heard a statement from him like that he would think of playing in the MLS as a season is shorter there. Because he doesn't want to play a very long season every year and he wants to allocate more time to some other activities. In this way, he thinks that he can play football for longer years. I respect his words but I really wouldn't like to see him in a league like that so earlier. It is great to watch him in Europe now.

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February 23, 2022, 09:52:15 AM
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Reading some frankly dumb headlines about Messi being vindicated because of mistakes made by Neymar (penalty, of course, yes it was weak but he also scored so the media is being unfair I think, even if I did previously say Mbappe should be PK taker) and worse, because of Wijnaldum's handball. I mean come on everybody gives away sometimes it was obviously unintentional right. Anyway, 10 points lead (considering game extra). It's nothing.
When you spend a fortune in a player but he performs like an ordinary player and he miss a penalty then everyone will roast him. They will criticise everything in fact related to him until he returns to his actual performance then they will say that's the player we know. Personally I am still waiting for way more from him..
Yes, Neymar's stats don't look like the top 1 player in the world https://www.transfermarkt.us/fc-paris-saint-germain/toptorschuetzen/verein/583 - he looks worse than all his competitors and it seems unlikely that he will ever be able to repeat the words of Ibrahimovic "I came as a king and I leave as a legend"  Grin
Although it must be admitted that in the national team he has phenomenal statistics and he is close to the top.

We have no doubt that Neymar is a great player. There are very few talented players like him in the world. But he also has a lot of problems. He wears lots of injuries. In the PSG team, he does not get a chance to play 20 matches every season. He has played only 11 matches this season. So despite being a talented player, he may not be a legend like Messi or Ronaldo.

neymar is in a club where his talent will not be well used due to his style of play, I think that if neymar were in a club like real madrid or city he would be playing very well and would not always be injured. the style of play in franca does not suit him and messi this is my opinion



PSG 1 - 3 Nantes

It was a rather sad game, I say that because PSG had 72% possession of the ball but couldn't score goals, on the contrary, once again the old ghost of the past (poor defense) came back to haunt them and they conceded 3 goals. if the clubs were stronger, PSG probably wouldn't be able to be champions in almost every year. because the odds are very low on PSG games I don't place bets and therefore I don't lose money, but I wonder if anyone bet that PSG would win?



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February 23, 2022, 10:08:52 AM
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Neymar is one of the very special players in football history. But the problem is that he gets injured very often. And I have heard a statement from him like that he would think of playing in the MLS as a season is shorter there. Because he doesn't want to play a very long season every year and he wants to allocate more time to some other activities. In this way, he thinks that he can play football for longer years. I respect his words but I really wouldn't like to see him in a league like that so earlier. It is great to watch him in Europe now.
Most times people talk down on Neymar. They say things like he is greedy and he is selfish and he losses the ball or plays with the ball. They say many things about him but I have studied him very well. Neymar is a great player after the likes of Ronaldo and Messi. What I admire about him most is his ability to push the ball from the centre to the opponents 18yard box. He is good at samba football which is what Brazil is known for. Very skillful and visionary. I wouldn't want anything to make Neymar stop playing football. I love his swag.

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I am hardly surprised at the defeat of PSG,they have an important match against Real Madrid in Bernabeu stadium and their full focus is there.They sure play the games in the Ligue 1 but their concentration is normally not being the same as the one they will have in the return leg against Real Madrid.Also the fact that Neimar missed the penalty does not surprise me,they are already 13 points ahead and they are already Champions of the Ligue 1 this season,other lost games can be expected from PSG and they are not a safe team to bet on the Ligue 1 anymore at least for this season.In Champions is a completely different story as that is now their main objective.

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February 23, 2022, 10:19:50 AM
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Maybe it is not a big game but I wonder which side will be the winner or whether there will be a winner. I mean the Strasbourg - Nice game in three days. Strasbourg are the most interesting team of the season to me. They didn't start to the season good but they fixed most of their problems later on. And now, they are at the fourth place in the standings being only three points behind Nice. And Nice are having a solid season also. They are performing much better than the previous season and fighting for the second place to be able to qualify for the CL groups directly. I feel like this game would end in a draw.

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February 23, 2022, 04:12:27 PM
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I am hardly surprised at the defeat of PSG,they have an important match against Real Madrid in Bernabeu stadium and their full focus is there.They sure play the games in the Ligue 1 but their concentration is normally not being the same as the one they will have in the return leg against Real Madrid.
It is not acceptable result for PSG they have. But they can not blame on Champions League because PSG have good players for their second squad so that they can win many matches in Ligue 1 with their second Tier players. Sometimes their substitute players can not perform well after long time on the bench but it is not all to assess their quality

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Also the fact that Neimar missed the penalty does not surprise me,they are already 13 points ahead and they are already Champions of the Ligue 1 this season,other lost games can be expected from PSG and they are not a safe team to bet on the Ligue 1 anymore at least for this season.In Champions is a completely different story as that is now their main objective.
Neymar has never been in his best in this season. Over weighted, got injuries, lot of time to recover, unhealthy habit and he is going to his 30. It is bad to see Neymar is going towards downside of his career without good recognition as ther third best players under only Messi and Ronaldo.

This season, Messi and Ronaldo don't have good performance and I belelive important reason is their ages. They have more professional than others and with their talent, they become legends. Neymar has taldnf but unprofessional and his bad habit restrict him to join top players

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February 23, 2022, 04:33:31 PM
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Yes, Neymar's stats don't look like the top 1 player in the world https://www.transfermarkt.us/fc-paris-saint-germain/toptorschuetzen/verein/583 - he looks worse than all his competitors and it seems unlikely that he will ever be able to repeat the words of Ibrahimovic "I came as a king and I leave as a legend"  Grin
Although it must be admitted that in the national team he has phenomenal statistics and he is close to the top.

We have no doubt that Neymar is a great player. There are very few talented players like him in the world. But he also has a lot of problems. He wears lots of injuries. In the PSG team, he does not get a chance to play 20 matches every season. He has played only 11 matches this season. So despite being a talented player, he may not be a legend like Messi or Ronaldo.

Yes, he still has about 5 years of peak form ahead of him, but I doubt that he has a chance to dominate like other great players did before him. Plus, there are already a number of young players who claim to be top 1 - Mbappe, Haaland, maybe Vinicius. It is far from certain that they will be able to do this, maybe they will face the same problems as Neymar, but I would rather bet on them than on him.

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February 23, 2022, 04:51:56 PM
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I am hardly surprised at the defeat of PSG,they have an important match against Real Madrid in Bernabeu stadium and their full focus is there.They sure play the games in the Ligue 1 but their concentration is normally not being the same as the one they will have in the return leg against Real Madrid.
This is not enough reason for PSG to lose to Nantes. PSG didn't play well and that is it. By the way the have torns of stars so the have all it takes to win both local leagues and the championship league the were only been too lazy. By they want the only have 1 goal against Maldrid and who knows what the return leg brings

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Also the fact that Neimar missed the penalty does not surprise me,they are already 13 points ahead and they are already Champions of the Ligue 1 this season,other lost games can be expected from PSG and they are not a safe team to bet on the Ligue 1 anymore at least for this season.In Champions is a completely different story as that is now their main objective.
PSG has all it takes to win the championship league but I doubt if they are really prepared for it. They had good advantage in the first leg over Maldrid but didn't utilze it what's the possibility of winning the second leg. The should face both leagues. The League 1 and the championships league so Incase the lose out on one the can pursue the other with full force
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February 23, 2022, 08:08:03 PM
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Maybe it is not a big game but I wonder which side will be the winner or whether there will be a winner. I mean the Strasbourg - Nice game in three days. Strasbourg are the most interesting team of the season to me. They didn't start to the season good but they fixed most of their problems later on. And now, they are at the fourth place in the standings being only three points behind Nice. And Nice are having a solid season also. They are performing much better than the previous season and fighting for the second place to be able to qualify for the CL groups directly. I feel like this game would end in a draw.
Strasbourg is big package of this season and with current form most chances they will stay here at top, and they will try to clinch third spot because this is currently achievable for few teams with current form they are a strong candidate for this spot right now Lyon and Monaco are struggling and have very few chances for grabbing this Nice and Strasbourg are both fighting hard, but form is going with home team even their start of this season was not ideal, but later they achieve some good success.

We still have 13 round left in this season and few changes possible but few teams playing unpredictable which is going to be concern for them at the end of this season most chances defending champion is going to be in middle of table and Monaco and Lyon will try to have some better place.

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February 23, 2022, 09:33:23 PM
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Lyon and Lille game seems like a much better game to watch this week. I am not saying that they would be having a game that would be greatly entertaining to watch, but these are two great teams that ended up being not so great.

Lyon had like a decade long domination over ligue 1 back in the day and horrible right now, and Lille is the latest champion and ended up being bad this season as well. All in all I would guess that this game may not be entertaining because of big talent but it could be very entertaining to watch in the long run because it would actually matter a lot for the future of these teams and I am expecting the result to give one of them a good momentum.

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February 24, 2022, 09:07:01 AM
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Yes, Neymar's stats don't look like the top 1 player in the world https://www.transfermarkt.us/fc-paris-saint-germain/toptorschuetzen/verein/583 - he looks worse than all his competitors and it seems unlikely that he will ever be able to repeat the words of Ibrahimovic "I came as a king and I leave as a legend"  Grin
Although it must be admitted that in the national team he has phenomenal statistics and he is close to the top.

We have no doubt that Neymar is a great player. There are very few talented players like him in the world. But he also has a lot of problems. He wears lots of injuries. In the PSG team, he does not get a chance to play 20 matches every season. He has played only 11 matches this season. So despite being a talented player, he may not be a legend like Messi or Ronaldo.

Yes, he still has about 5 years of peak form ahead of him, but I doubt that he has a chance to dominate like other great players did before him. Plus, there are already a number of young players who claim to be top 1 - Mbappe, Haaland, maybe Vinicius. It is far from certain that they will be able to do this, maybe they will face the same problems as Neymar, but I would rather bet on them than on him.
Neymar has been good for a long time, I was personally expecting him to be the next reign after Ronaldo and Messi. I don't known if I will say that he came at the wrong time. He came when Ronaldo and Messi was at their peak for decade plus. But currently many young players are out, you did not include Salah in the list because he is to me now like a world best. He is really good at it.

 
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Neymar has been good for a long time, I was personally expecting him to be the next reign after Ronaldo and Messi. I don't known if I will say that he came at the wrong time. He came when Ronaldo and Messi was at their peak for decade plus. But currently many young players are out, you did not include Salah in the list because he is to me now like a world best. He is really good at it.

Neymar is a very talented player. I'm not saying he came at the wrong time. He would have been in the same row as Messi and Ronaldo had it not been for his injury problems. He suffered a lot of injuries and could not perform in important matches. If he haven't this problem, then he would have fought with Messi and Ronaldo to win the Ballon d'Or.

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February 24, 2022, 09:47:46 AM
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Neymar has been good for a long time, I was personally expecting him to be the next reign after Ronaldo and Messi. I don't known if I will say that he came at the wrong time. He came when Ronaldo and Messi was at their peak for decade plus. But currently many young players are out, you did not include Salah in the list because he is to me now like a world best. He is really good at it.
Neymar still best forward for PSG and I think he can playing well depending can take his performance and keep his body balance keep consistent, usually many Brazil player can't keep their body balance how to be good athlete with keep healthy, but I see still have potential for Neymar going on his career with PSG for several years later, I see will give many advantage for PSG keep ask Neymar stay on PSG for Ligue 1 trophy and will have several trophy for next year I think will give by Neymar.

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