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The only true fight here is for the second place.The first place is already away with 13 points difference and the Ligue 1 is extremely boring compared for example to Premier League or Serie A in Italy.This is the result of having one stellar team like PSG and all other teams having mediocre to normal players compared to PSG.
PSG are too strong and they dominated Ligue 1 in 9 seasons before the last one when they lost the trophy first time after 9 seasons. They focused and allocated their resources too much for Champions League and lost Ligue 1. In this season, they manage to do it better with more new and good players from the summer transfer. 9 point difference is so good for PSG to think more of Champions League. It would be a shame for PSG with all the players they have including Messi this year not to win the Champions League as their focus is totally there now,Ligue 1 is just a formality for them now.
It is not a shame if PSG play well and just lack of luck to win Champions League. Many legendary players have never won Champions League include the Brazilian Ronaldo de Lima. Messi performance in this season is not good and I wish to see his best in the rest of season. I also wish Messi to win at least one more Champions League before he retires.
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January 05, 2022, 06:00:04 AM |
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Well, is there a separate thread for Coupe De France? I enjoy Coupe De France matches but can't find any thread to discuss.
Yesterday I watched the match of PSG vs Vannes. PSG formed the squad without Messi, Neymar and Di Maria. However, they won 4-0. PSG was leading 1-0 in the first half. Mbappe's superb performance in the second half helped PSG win 4-0. Mbappe scored a hat trick.
PSG should have won bigger than that, because Vannes itself is a small club. In fact, sometimes we mention things like Ligue 1 (highest tier) and Ligue 2 (second/lower tier), which means there are different quality teams there. Vannes are a team that doesn't even play in the second and third tiers because Vannes are playing in National 2, that's a lot of distance, difference and quality and PSG only winning 4-0 is not something good. I just saw the statistics of the games of the two teams in that match, PSG did appear quite dominant and even they managed to release 25 kicks with 11 of them on target, with so many chances, of course that PSG should have scored more than 5 goals, moreover they played almost half of the main players in that match, I think with the results obtained in that match, it was actually Vannes game that deserved our applause, because with a modest squad they were able to prevent PSG from scoring more. That's something to pay attention to too, basically PSG's second and third tier players are still fairly good or at least, have qualities that are not much different from the main players. We can compare to other big teams like Bayern Munich and even, when they get the chance to keep scoring goals they really will and that's not the case at PSG who have more star players in the squad.
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January 05, 2022, 03:51:27 PM |
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~ It would be a shame for PSG with all the players they have including Messi this year not to win the Champions League as their focus is totally there now,Ligue 1 is just a formality for them now.
The situation is similar for City - they try every year, are constantly among the favorites, but fail all the time. Hopefully this year will be the same I will be glad to any Champions League winner if it is not City or PSG. I am glad that even if one of them wins the Champions League, the second will definitely be on the losing side
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The situation is similar for City - they try every year, are constantly among the favorites, but fail all the time. Hopefully this year will be the same I will be glad to any Champions League winner if it is not City or PSG. I am glad that even if one of them wins the Champions League, the second will definitely be on the losing side I know it's not fair enough for Manchester City or PSG when they are among the favorites every season for the Champions League title. Actually it doesn't look good for them, but they will gain more experience every season even if they fail in the final. This season they still have a chance, so hopefully one of them can reach the final and win the title whether you are happy or not. That is my hope for these two teams.
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The situation is similar for City - they try every year, are constantly among the favorites, but fail all the time. Hopefully this year will be the same I will be glad to any Champions League winner if it is not City or PSG. I am glad that even if one of them wins the Champions League, the second will definitely be on the losing side I know it's not fair enough for Manchester City or PSG when they are among the favorites every season for the Champions League title. Actually it doesn't look good for them, but they will gain more experience every season even if they fail in the final. This season they still have a chance, so hopefully one of them can reach the final and win the title whether you are happy or not. That is my hope for these two teams. maybe City have a bigger chance at this time compared to PSG because in the first round of the last 16, PSG had to hold a tough match because they had to play against the team that has won the most UCL titles so far. And the chances of them qualifying are currently only 50% and it could even be less because at this time Real Madrid can be said to be quite good in La Liga and in the UCL.
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January 05, 2022, 04:16:41 PM |
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~ It would be a shame for PSG with all the players they have including Messi this year not to win the Champions League as their focus is totally there now,Ligue 1 is just a formality for them now.
The situation is similar for City - they try every year, are constantly among the favorites, but fail all the time. Hopefully this year will be the same I will be glad to any Champions League winner if it is not City or PSG. I am glad that even if one of them wins the Champions League, the second will definitely be on the losing side PSG and Manchester City spend a lot of money to sort out their squads. But at the end of the season we do not get the expected performance from them. The goal of both teams is the Champions League. However, the context of this season is different. Both Manchester City and PSG are well positioned. Manchester City is much more stable. They have played tremendously in the Champions League, they have also maintained their top spot in the Premier League. They are far ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. Similarly we can talk about PSG. They are far ahead in Ligue 1. However, in Ligue 1, however there is no team to compete for the title with PSG. The teams are weaker than PSG. However, PSG has also performed well in the Champions League.
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PSG and Manchester City spend a lot of money to sort out their squads. But at the end of the season we do not get the expected performance from them. The goal of both teams is the Champions League. However, the context of this season is different. Both Manchester City and PSG are well positioned.
They are both rich clubs and over spent lots of budget for transfer. They won lots of national trophies in Ligue 1 and Premier League. What they are lack of is a trophy in Champions League and they are both hunting for their first Champions League trophy under new era with new owners, rich bosses I meant. Manchester City is much more stable. They have played tremendously in the Champions League, they have also maintained their top spot in the Premier League. They are far ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. Similarly we can talk about PSG. They are far ahead in Ligue 1. However, in Ligue 1, however there is no team to compete for the title with PSG. The teams are weaker than PSG. However, PSG has also performed well in the Champions League.
Manchester City began their new era years before PSG and they achieved success before PSG. Anyway, in last few seasons, they both moved further in Champions League and if we consider Champions League final is a sort of achievement, they reached a same achievement. Next achievement is winning trophy. Let's wait either PSG or Manchester City will achieve it first.
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Well, is there a separate thread for Coupe De France? I enjoy Coupe De France matches but can't find any thread to discuss.
Yesterday I watched the match of PSG vs Vannes. PSG formed the squad without Messi, Neymar and Di Maria. However, they won 4-0. PSG was leading 1-0 in the first half. Mbappe's superb performance in the second half helped PSG win 4-0. Mbappe scored a hat trick.
PSG had an easy match against Vannes even they were able to control the ball almost 66% throughout the match, losing messi is not a big problem for PSG at this time in my opinion, moreover they have a layer of squad that can be said to be fairly even in all lines, but actually I expect if in that match there will be many goals scored considering their opponent is a 4th caste club in the French league. I was waiting for a match like this to happen. They played very aggressive football against Vannes throughout the Psg is a championship contender in all lanes this year. There is a possibility of winning the cup in the French cup, league and champions league. Mbappe scored a hat-trick, psg won 4-0.
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January 05, 2022, 05:58:47 PM |
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The Nantes - Monaco game is going to be a competitive one I hope. There is no big favourite in this game I think. They are close teams in this season thanks to Nantes' great rise. They are showing a much greater performance compared to last season. They were nearly relegating from the Ligue 1 as far as I remember. Now, they are at the seventh position in the standings and right behind Monaco. Nantes seem to have a good advantage but this game is very likely to end in a draw.
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Well, is there a separate thread for Coupe De France? I enjoy Coupe De France matches but can't find any thread to discuss.
Yesterday I watched the match of PSG vs Vannes. PSG formed the squad without Messi, Neymar and Di Maria. However, they won 4-0. PSG was leading 1-0 in the first half. Mbappe's superb performance in the second half helped PSG win 4-0. Mbappe scored a hat trick.
PSG had an easy match against Vannes even they were able to control the ball almost 66% throughout the match, losing messi is not a big problem for PSG at this time in my opinion, moreover they have a layer of squad that can be said to be fairly even in all lines, but actually I expect if in that match there will be many goals scored considering their opponent is a 4th caste club in the French league. I was waiting for a match like this to happen. They played very aggressive football against Vannes throughout the Psg is a championship contender in all lanes this year. There is a possibility of winning the cup in the French cup, league and champions league. Mbappe scored a hat-trick, psg won 4-0. I think for ligue 1 it is certain that PSG have managed to lock the cup this season, with a distance of 13 points it will be very difficult for Nice to catch up, and the only way for Nice to catch up with PSG is if PSG lose 5 times and Nice does not get one defeat. even in the rest of the league this season and it's quite impossible in my opinion for a team as great as PSG now, while for the French cup I see no opponent that has the potential to stop PSG from pairing the two cups this season, maybe now I think PSG journey in this season will be a little heavy only in the champions League.
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I think for ligue 1 it is certain that PSG have managed to lock the cup this season, with a distance of 13 points it will be very difficult for Nice to catch up, and the only way for Nice to catch up with PSG is if PSG lose 5 times and Nice does not get one defeat. even in the rest of the league this season and it's quite impossible in my opinion for a team as great as PSG now, while for the French cup I see no opponent that has the potential to stop PSG from pairing the two cups this season, maybe now I think PSG journey in this season will be a little heavy only in the champions League.
they are already in a comfortable condition and with the condition of the team as it is now and the performance of their opponents who are still not very good I am also very sure that they will be at the top and win the title without a strong competitor there. actually I want to see competition like last year how Lille beat PSG hegemony for many years but indeed for now it may be very difficult for something like that to happen
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We've got even funnier potentials coming up I guess but Lens - Lille is the "pick" of the night as the only Coupe game before Friday Ligue 1 reopens at Bordeaux. Both tend to be really poor on corner counts, occasional high yellows, so it's set up to to be a drastically dull affair unless both play reserves (which they really shouldn't). 8th place vs 9th place, Lens to score first my value bet @1.85? Dunno if you followed the game, I didn't have time to do it but I see Lille failing to win although leading with 2 goals, Lens was able to get a draw at the end of the game then win it by penalties. It seems to be a crazy match there. Lille lost everything this season and the round of 16 is quite interesting with PSG - Nice, OM - Montpellier, Lens - Monaco.
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Montpellier and Rennes both are doing really good this season. They have the same points now and they are at top places. When it comes to their next games ahead, Montpellier seem to have the most comfortable game. It is against Troyes and it's a home game for Montpellier also. I guess that they would get a comfortable win as Troyes are one of the worst teams now. But Rennes have a really tough away game ahead against Lens. Because Lens are one of the strong teams now. I think that Lens will not let them win.
The only true fight here is for the second place.The first place is already away with 13 points difference and the Ligue 1 is extremely boring compared for example to Premier League or Serie A in Italy.This is the result of having one stellar team like PSG and all other teams having mediocre to normal players compared to PSG. It would be a shame for PSG with all the players they have including Messi this year not to win the Champions League as their focus is totally there now,Ligue 1 is just a formality for them now. This is certainly the case for the Ligue 1 now. Because like most people think already, PSG have guaranteed their championship logically. They are far ahead of every team remaining in the standings. And there are literally no team that can catch up with PSG at least for this season. I know that Lille's championship in the last season was like a dream. They lived the dream but now it is time for going back to the reality.
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January 05, 2022, 08:06:28 PM |
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Montpellier and Rennes both are doing really good this season. They have the same points now and they are at top places. When it comes to their next games ahead, Montpellier seem to have the most comfortable game. It is against Troyes and it's a home game for Montpellier also. I guess that they would get a comfortable win as Troyes are one of the worst teams now. But Rennes have a really tough away game ahead against Lens. Because Lens are one of the strong teams now. I think that Lens will not let them win.
The only true fight here is for the second place.The first place is already away with 13 points difference and the Ligue 1 is extremely boring compared for example to Premier League or Serie A in Italy.This is the result of having one stellar team like PSG and all other teams having mediocre to normal players compared to PSG. It would be a shame for PSG with all the players they have including Messi this year not to win the Champions League as their focus is totally there now,Ligue 1 is just a formality for them now. This is certainly the case for the Ligue 1 now. Because like most people think already, PSG have guaranteed their championship logically. They are far ahead of every team remaining in the standings. And there are literally no team that can catch up with PSG at least for this season. I know that Lille's championship in the last season was like a dream. They lived the dream but now it is time for going back to the reality. Of course, last year was a dream season for Lille. Finishing the league champion in front of such a strong PSG squad is an achievement to be congratulated. Lille accomplished that last year. This year, they played not good matches. They are fighting in the middle of the league. I don't see a team that can surprise PSG this year. They will dominantly win the league this year. I expect them to score 15+ points to the nearest team. Their success in the Champions League will be decisive for me. Let's see if they can make it to the semi-finals or finals.
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This is certainly the case for the Ligue 1 now. Because like most people think already, PSG have guaranteed their championship logically. They are far ahead of every team remaining in the standings. And there are literally no team that can catch up with PSG at least for this season. I know that Lille's championship in the last season was like a dream. They lived the dream but now it is time for going back to the reality. Of course, last year was a dream season for Lille. Finishing the league champion in front of such a strong PSG squad is an achievement to be congratulated. Lille accomplished that last year. This year, they played not good matches. They are fighting in the middle of the league. I don't see a team that can surprise PSG this year. They will dominantly win the league this year. I expect them to score 15+ points to the nearest team. Their success in the Champions League will be decisive for me. Let's see if they can make it to the semi-finals or finals. PSG is very strong side here for some years, and they are improving their quality with many skilled and good players recently specially with Messi and Neymar they have most lethal attack, but sadly their achievements are just inside France, and they fail to have any even outside France recently with last year Lille have French title which was shocking result for many because PSG were very strong but still lost just by 1 point but now this year we have many surprises as many good teams have fail to give any impression in French League with defending champions badly struggling and staying into middle and Monaco and Marseille are also having not enough quality to challenge them they need some more good teams for having some better way in French League quality.
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January 05, 2022, 09:49:55 PM |
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I just saw the statistics of the games of the two teams in that match, PSG did appear quite dominant and even they managed to release 25 kicks with 11 of them on target, with so many chances, of course that PSG should have scored more than 5 goals, moreover they played almost half of the main players in that match, I think with the results obtained in that match, it was actually Vannes game that deserved our applause, because with a modest squad they were able to prevent PSG from scoring more.
That's something to pay attention to too, basically PSG's second and third tier players are still fairly good or at least, have qualities that are not much different from the main players. We can compare to other big teams like Bayern Munich and even, when they get the chance to keep scoring goals they really will and that's not the case at PSG who have more star players in the squad. Considering how much money they have spent so far in their team, it is totally understandable for them to have a good youth system as well. Look at city for example, they have spent so much for players but they have spend a lot on their youth team and now getting some players from there as well. Foden is a great example for what City got by spending that much money, if they sold him today, he would worth over what they have spent on the youth team all by himself, and I am not even talking about other players that were raised through the system. PSG probably has something similar, they are spending a few million a year acquiring very young players, players under 18, and then playing them in their youth teams and in cup games to give them experience and that's how big clubs keep being big. They do not only buy expensive players but spend it on the team itself as well.
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January 06, 2022, 07:07:03 AM |
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I just saw the statistics of the games of the two teams in that match, PSG did appear quite dominant and even they managed to release 25 kicks with 11 of them on target, with so many chances, of course that PSG should have scored more than 5 goals, moreover they played almost half of the main players in that match, I think with the results obtained in that match, it was actually Vannes game that deserved our applause, because with a modest squad they were able to prevent PSG from scoring more.
That's something to pay attention to too, basically PSG's second and third tier players are still fairly good or at least, have qualities that are not much different from the main players. We can compare to other big teams like Bayern Munich and even, when they get the chance to keep scoring goals they really will and that's not the case at PSG who have more star players in the squad. Considering how much money they have spent so far in their team, it is totally understandable for them to have a good youth system as well. Look at city for example, they have spent so much for players but they have spend a lot on their youth team and now getting some players from there as well. Foden is a great example for what City got by spending that much money, if they sold him today, he would worth over what they have spent on the youth team all by himself, and I am not even talking about other players that were raised through the system. PSG probably has something similar, they are spending a few million a year acquiring very young players, players under 18, and then playing them in their youth teams and in cup games to give them experience and that's how big clubs keep being big. They do not only buy expensive players but spend it on the team itself as well. I believe that PSG will only improve as this season progresses, and as we saw against Vannes they’re playing much better football, but there’s definitely lots of scope for improvement considering their star studded squad. Also grooming young player’s is a wise way to save money on future transfers, and I guess PSG has also realised that they don’t need to spend big during each transfer window, and lastly it’s quiet a possibility that new big stars may emerge from their youth academy in coming year’s.
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January 06, 2022, 12:01:37 PM |
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I believe that PSG will only improve as this season progresses, and as we saw against Vannes they’re playing much better football, but there’s definitely lots of scope for improvement considering their star studded squad.
Also grooming young player’s is a wise way to save money on future transfers, and I guess PSG has also realised that they don’t need to spend big during each transfer window, and lastly it’s quiet a possibility that new big stars may emerge from their youth academy in coming year’s.
PSG will undoubtedly strengthen when Neymar and Messi return to the main squad, the question is whether they will have time to do this before the meeting with Real Madrid in the Champions League or not - it will be a difficult match and without its main players PSG will be hard. As for spending on new players, they will be forced to do so, so few people believe that Mbappe will remain in the team after the end of the season.
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January 06, 2022, 12:40:43 PM |
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In my opinion, the Lyon v PSG match will be the most important one among all the matches this weekend. Both teams have important missing players. Lionel Messi is one of them also for PSG. His current condition is doubtful though but he might still not play due to getting covid-19. Neymar is injured right now too and he is expected to return on late January. But I reckon that PSG would still do a great job with Mbappe especially and Di Maria. But this is going to be really tough for them also. And I wouldn't be surprised if we see a draw at the end.
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January 06, 2022, 01:28:41 PM |
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In my opinion, the Lyon v PSG match will be the most important one among all the matches this weekend. Both teams have important missing players. Lionel Messi is one of them also for PSG. His current condition is doubtful though but he might still not play due to getting covid-19.
Messi has only 1 goal in Ligue 1 so far and I don't think his absence will affect PSG too much. They have many good players who can score goals and can do even better than Messi. This break can help Messi to have a short break time and I hope it can help him to come back better and contribute more goals for PSG. Neymar is injured right now too and he is expected to return on late January. But I reckon that PSG would still do a great job with Mbappe especially and Di Maria. But this is going to be really tough for them also. And I wouldn't be surprised if we see a draw at the end.
Neymar is the same and PSG won many matches in early of this season without Neymar and Messi when they were still in vacation after Coppa America. I watched a video in which Neymar is training. He looks very good in that short video and best wishes for him in 2022. A draw, no I don't think Lyon will be able to make a draw. It can be a tight match but in the end, PSG will get 3 points from Lyon.
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