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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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January 03, 2024, 10:09:04 PM

Arsenal are of course not out of the title competition now. But if they continue to be this inconsistent they will be out of it for sure.  Sad

Arteta can find a way to improve this form again but it is really difficult to believe in this not to repeat itself. Because this is Arsenal we are talking about. They are always prone to making huge mistakes on the road going to the league title. The best example for that was the previous season. It was their biggest chance and they wasted it on the final weeks unfortunately.

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January 03, 2024, 10:24:24 PM

Arsenal are of course not out of the title competition now. But if they continue to be this inconsistent they will be out of it for sure.  Sad

Arteta can find a way to improve this form again but it is really difficult to believe in this not to repeat itself. Because this is Arsenal we are talking about. They are always prone to making huge mistakes on the road going to the league title. The best example for that was the previous season. It was their biggest chance and they wasted it on the final weeks unfortunately.
Arsenal are about to missed out on the title race again this season, heavy pressure on them. We're not in the final week yet but I have strong hope of Arsenal will amend their mistakes and also ensure they're able to win matches upfront. I've witnessed poor performance and there are certain levels of support and experience from Gunners, but this level is different. Inconsistent performance have gotten a hold of Arsenal. We expected Gunners to be topflight this season but unfortunately they're out bound, they're unable to maintain the streak winnings.

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January 03, 2024, 10:30:55 PM

At the beginning of the season no one saw Liverpool coming, they played badly and at a time was battling to move to the big six, it was all Manchester city and Arsenal.
Now Liverpool sit 5 points clear of Arsenal and Manchester city with Aston villa their closest rivals.
I think in terms of consistency Liverpool are better than Arsenal and has a better chance of maintaining the top spot and would be Manchester city main adversary to them defending their premier league title.
They had a pretty rough start but managed to grow into the game and became consistent in their performance. I could remember how they nearly lost to Chelsea in their first game but ended d match as a draw, played a few more games with Bournemouth and Newcastle which they managed to win but wasn’t good performance though. They had this average performance going on for a while and still managed to win matches, no one saw them coming because they don’t play well and gradually they got to top 4 and were just some points behind Arsenal until Arsenal dropped points and they took the top spot.

Liverpool surely more consistent than any other club that’s why they are top of the league, Manchester City and Arsenal started well but lacked consistency and they are now struggling to find their feat now. It’s too early to conclude who will win the league as this is the premier league, the most competitive league so I can’t count Manchester City or Arsenal out of the race yet.

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January 03, 2024, 10:47:42 PM

Arsenal are of course not out of the title competition now. But if they continue to be this inconsistent they will be out of it for sure.  Sad

Arteta can find a way to improve this form again but it is really difficult to believe in this not to repeat itself. Because this is Arsenal we are talking about. They are always prone to making huge mistakes on the road going to the league title. The best example for that was the previous season. It was their biggest chance and they wasted it on the final weeks unfortunately.

Man City are still favourites to win it.

I just think Arsenal are a bit short on quality to win it. They don’t have a world class goalscorer, I think their fullbacks are mediocre and both GK’s are not title winning quality.

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January 03, 2024, 11:09:48 PM

Lukaku is no longer suitable for the EPL. Actually, we cannot say that he is very old. He is 30 years old not old actually, he is so tall and he loses his speed, so in my opinion, he is not suitable anymore. It would be best for him to stay in Italy, if such a wish even exists.

This player is no longer on Chelsea's agenda. In order to get out of these problems, they need to decide on the right players again to be a competitive team in the EPL.
Yes, Lukaku is more suited to Serie A because he has been in Serie A with Inter for a long time before and rarely appears in the Premier League so it's not surprising that Lukaku looks very reliable when he's there and the only possibility is that Chelsea will sell him and at the moment it looks like Chelsea prefer to retain talented young players to be able to get investment in players who are more valuable and have a high mentality and also in terms of physicality, young players are very suitable in the long term.
It's a little surprising that even though they have guidelines for retaining young players, the fact is that Chelsea has so far not made any progress in terms of performance and looks very bad even though this club has spent a lot of money to bring in several previous players.

He was always interesting to play in serie a caused by will able to get more regular time to play instead of joining in the EPL club which is rarely giving him time to play in the main squad. This is also the main reason lukkau is always going to the serie a and he left EPL.
He did play in EPL many years and he knew so well how bad the atmosphere of EPL for him. Yeah it was the best league in the world but since lukaku was rarely getting time to play and what's the point to stay much longer in EPL?
I don't even see strong points of him to stay much longer in that league even though he was still under contract with EPL club like chelsea. His mind can change anytime depending on the situation happened in the club.
Lukaku is just trying to focus on how he was able to get what he wanted and it is regular time to play in the main squad. This is the most important thing for the football player. Chelsea was doing bad thing by not give him a try.

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January 03, 2024, 11:26:02 PM

Arsenal are about to missed out on the title race again this season, heavy pressure on them. We're not in the final week yet but I have strong hope of Arsenal will amend their mistakes and also ensure they're able to win matches upfront. I've witnessed poor performance and there are certain levels of support and experience from Gunners, but this level is different. Inconsistent performance have gotten a hold of Arsenal. We expected Gunners to be topflight this season but unfortunately they're out bound, they're unable to maintain the streak winnings.
The result of not being able to win in a row is what forced Arsenal to occupy the top four positions with a distance of five points from the current leader of the standings. In the Premier League it is always more difficult to catch up and equalize points when you are at the top and that is really what Arsenal is experiencing. Because even though the distance of five points is not quite a lot of distance, there are always obstacles when a team is chasing down points to reach the top again.

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January 03, 2024, 11:33:24 PM

Arsenal are about to missed out on the title race again this season, heavy pressure on them. We're not in the final week yet but I have strong hope of Arsenal will amend their mistakes and also ensure they're able to win matches upfront. I've witnessed poor performance and there are certain levels of support and experience from Gunners, but this level is different. Inconsistent performance have gotten a hold of Arsenal. We expected Gunners to be topflight this season but unfortunately they're out bound, they're unable to maintain the streak winnings.
The result of not being able to win in a row is what forced Arsenal to occupy the top four positions with a distance of five points from the current leader of the standings. In the Premier League it is always more difficult to catch up and equalize points when you are at the top and that is really what Arsenal is experiencing. Because even though the distance of five points is not quite a lot of distance, there are always obstacles when a team is chasing down points to reach the top again.
The reason why I am not confident about Arsenal is two things;
1. Arsenal is not a club that will be in somewhere 4th or 5th position during the mid season and later give a surprise to the top before the end of the season.
2. Arsenal is a club which can be at the top of the league and later give up two weeks to end of the season.
For these two reasons, I do not trust Arsenal with the English premier League title. They can comfortably compete for the top 4 but I do not trust them to win

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Arsenal's performance has suddenly deteriorated. We saw this last season as well. Despite performing brilliantly throughout the season, Arsenal team failed to win the title due to poor performances and dropping points in the last few matches. Arsenal's situation is similar this season. They have won only one of their last 5 matches. And they have lost points in the last three matches. It is not possible to become Premier League champions with such erratic performances.
It is not the first time that Arsenal decreased their performance suddenly in the middle of the season. This already happens many times in previous seasons, Arsenal often played badly when the first season is almost over or the season is already in second half. In the past, I guessed this was because Arsenal has a bad squad depth. But this season, Arsenal looks to have good squad depth but they still experienced it. So, I don't know what's happening with them.  Huh

Aston Villa team is playing very well. However, I don't think this team deserves to win the Premier League title right now. Second place in the table is now against Aston Villa with 42 points from 20 matches. However, there is a strong possibility that this group will lose the truck and fall behind at any time. Villa players did not play well against Sheffield United and Manchester United. If they play well in these two matches, the top spot in the table would be occupied by Villa.
Every team has the right to win the title, including Aston Villa.
But if we consider the squad of Aston Villa, I am also not sure that they will win the title this season. I think the most realistic target for Aston Villa is to finish in the top 4 of UCL standings (UCL zone).


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January 03, 2024, 11:49:51 PM

At the beginning of the season no one saw Liverpool coming, they played badly and at a time was battling to move to the big six, it was all Manchester city and Arsenal.
Now Liverpool sit 5 points clear of Arsenal and Manchester city with Aston villa their closest rivals.
I think in terms of consistency Liverpool are better than Arsenal and has a better chance of maintaining the top spot and would be Manchester city main adversary to them defending their premier league title.
They had a pretty rough start but managed to grow into the game and became consistent in their performance. I could remember how they nearly lost to Chelsea in their first game but ended d match as a draw, played a few more games with Bournemouth and Newcastle which they managed to win but wasn’t good performance though. They had this average performance going on for a while and still managed to win matches, no one saw them coming because they don’t play well and gradually they got to top 4 and were just some points behind Arsenal until Arsenal dropped points and they took the top spot.

Liverpool surely more consistent than any other club that’s why they are top of the league, Manchester City and Arsenal started well but lacked consistency and they are now struggling to find their feat now. It’s too early to conclude who will win the league as this is the premier league, the most competitive league so I can’t count Manchester City or Arsenal out of the race yet.
Despite the personnel disturbance, Liverpool is still playing well. Klopp's teachers and students are showing that they are strong candidates for the championship of the highest tournament in English football this season. Long-time mainstays like Salah or Van Dijk are gradually regaining their peak form like the first days they arrived at Liverpool. The excellent integration of recruits, combined with the stability of the players, brought success to Liverpool this season. If Liverpool wins the throne, they will equal Man Utd's record of winning this tournament 20 times.

Man City is facing many competitors this season. The situation this season may make them sweat. Man City needs to clearly define their goals for this season. If they continue to want to defend the treble, the road will be much more difficult when key players are not physically fit for the busy schedule. Arsenal may have been eliminated from the race for the throne, as they have played so poorly in recent matches.

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January 03, 2024, 11:57:43 PM

2. Arsenal is a club which can be at the top of the league and later give up two weeks to end of the season.
For these two reasons, I do not trust Arsenal with the English premier League title. They can comfortably compete for the top 4 but I do not trust them to win

This was what I had thought would be the outcome. I had thought Arsenal would play really well and gather up points that would give them the lead in the league table. Then they would start losing focus and begin to lose and draw their games losing points until a team like Manchester City, (who I still think has a good chance of winning the league title again this season) would overtake them on the table.
About trusting them to win the league title, I’m not so sure. What I’m sure though, is they’re probably going to finish amongst the top four in the league table.
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Last edit: January 07, 2024, 07:03:35 PM by BitcoinHunt3r

The reason why I am not confident about Arsenal is two things;
1. Arsenal is not a club that will be in somewhere 4th or 5th position during the mid season and later give a surprise to the top before the end of the season.
2. Arsenal is a club which can be at the top of the league and later give up two weeks to end of the season.
For these two reasons, I do not trust Arsenal with the English premier League title. They can comfortably compete for the top 4 but I do not trust them to win

I have not ignored your opinion because this is a fact that has happened since the last few seasons, Arsenal can always reach the top of the standings but towards the end of the season they get worse somehow Arsenal always wasted the opportunity in the 35th match and others and this season it happened, I was not surprised to see Arsenal in the 4th place this week, but I'm sure Arsenal can secure one ticket to the Champions League next season, whoever the coach Arsenal is still in the same situation and repeat it from season to season.

Regarding the top of the standings maybe in the near future Manchester City will be in the 2nd place and Liverpool will get a tough competitor, among these two teams we cannot compare who is the best but we can wait for it until the end of the season. On the side of Liverpool maybe this is their last season with full strength because it is predicted that next season some of the main players will move, so far Moh Salah is the closest to the transfer rumors also some center back.

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Arsenal are about to missed out on the title race again this season, heavy pressure on them. We're not in the final week yet but I have strong hope of Arsenal will amend their mistakes and also ensure they're able to win matches upfront. I've witnessed poor performance and there are certain levels of support and experience from Gunners, but this level is different. Inconsistent performance have gotten a hold of Arsenal. We expected Gunners to be topflight this season but unfortunately they're out bound, they're unable to maintain the streak winnings.
The result of not being able to win in a row is what forced Arsenal to occupy the top four positions with a distance of five points from the current leader of the standings. In the Premier League it is always more difficult to catch up and equalize points when you are at the top and that is really what Arsenal is experiencing. Because even though the distance of five points is not quite a lot of distance, there are always obstacles when a team is chasing down points to reach the top again.
The reason why I am not confident about Arsenal is two things;
1. Arsenal is not a club that will be in somewhere 4th or 5th position during the mid season and later give a surprise to the top before the end of the season.
2. Arsenal is a club which can be at the top of the league and later give up two weeks to end of the season.
For these two reasons, I do not trust Arsenal with the English premier League title. They can comfortably compete for the top 4 but I do not trust them to win

The 1 reason that makes me feel inconvenient with this club is a "bottle club". Arsenal has consistently demonstrated their strength as a club, displaying impressive gameplay and securing victories in numerous competitions. However, their inability to claim any trophies persists as a recurring theme.
The situation is extremely unfortunate for those who are die-hard fans of Arsenal, as they continuously experience disappointment due to the false hopes generated by the club. The bottle club that is always doing bottle job. no doubt that if arsenal is always being mocked by rival's fans caused by the team is still having this bad habit.

Arsenal is arsenal and it will never be manchester city. Arsenal never had consistency in its gameplay. It keeps bottling the trophy even more.

Even arsenal has been also recording the worst result that repeated so many times. Arsenal has a unique history of accomplishments that sets them apart from any other club, which is why they are sometimes labeled as a "bottle club".

It's even happening since arsene wenger's era. I wonder how long this club will be repeating that fucking shitty result.

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The reason why I am not confident about Arsenal is two things;
1. Arsenal is not a club that will be in somewhere 4th or 5th position during the mid season and later give a surprise to the top before the end of the season.
2. Arsenal is a club which can be at the top of the league and later give up two weeks to end of the season.
For these two reasons, I do not trust Arsenal with the English premier League title. They can comfortably compete for the top 4 but I do not trust them to win

I have not ignored your opinion because this is a fact that has happened since the last few seasons, Arsenal can always reach the top of the standings but towards the end of the season they get worse somehow Arsenal always wasted the opportunity in the 35th match and others and this season it happened, I was not surprised to see Arsenal in the 4th place this week, but I'm sure Arsenal can secure one ticket to the Champions League next season.

There is a significant opportunity for Arsenal to secure a spot in the UCL, but it will always be considered their greatest achievement to secure a UCL spot at any given time. It has become the main concern by people caused by arsenal has no winning mentality to win the trophy.
By observing the frequency of Arsenal's inability to secure trophies, it becomes clear that they were often just a few steps away from victory. I think that arsenal didn't have mentality to make it happen caused by this is the main problem that will never be solved.


By holding onto this moment, Arsenal can ensure that they will be able to play at a higher level. in fact, this club is still performing so crazily even though it was always bottling its performance at the end of season.
No doubt that if people are starting to feel doubt about it. The inconsistency owned by this club makes more people started to distrust it. Arsenal for EPL trophy? that's too good to be true.

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January 04, 2024, 02:04:10 AM

I saw that after failing in the Champions League, Newcastle's condition was getting worse and it was very difficult for them to perform optimally to win the match. If you look at the number of players who have suffered injuries, it is true, as you said, that it is not surprising that Newcastle are again disappointing. If this does not change, Newcastle's condition will become even more difficult and it is possible that they will be further left behind at the bottom of the standings.
It is predictable because Newcastle United just have their first season in Champions League after some decades. They don't have experience to decentralize their resources for Premier League and Champions League. From coach, staffs to players, they all dont' have this experience and it's no surprise to see they tried hard in Champions League, failed there while they got some consequences for Premier League like low ranking and some player injuries.
For the Champions League, perhaps there is not much we can comment on because Newcastle is in a group with teams that are much more experienced and mature in the Champions League, so it is difficult for them to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League As a result, they lost their top five position after experiencing several defeats and the impact of injuries to several players also hit Newcastle, causing them to lose a lot of points in the previous match.

Last season they didn't take part in many competitions so they could balance the matches they played. The coach is also not very experienced in handling crucial matches, so when a number of their players are not available, it makes it difficult for Newcastle to rotate.

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There is a significant opportunity for Arsenal to secure a spot in the UCL, but it will always be considered their greatest achievement to secure a UCL spot at any given time. It has become the main concern by people caused by arsenal has no winning mentality to win the trophy.
By observing the frequency of Arsenal's inability to secure trophies, it becomes clear that they were often just a few steps away from victory. I think that arsenal didn't have mentality to make it happen caused by this is the main problem that will never be solved.
With their growth in three latest seasons and a runner up position in the last season, Arsenal will not satisfy themselves if they only complete this season with a UCL spot. They are aiming at the first position and their players actually want to win a first Premier League in their career. Many of Arsenal players did not have that trophy lifting feeling except some players transfered from Manchester City like Zinchenko or Gabriel Jesus.

Arsenal will have bigger challenge from clubs like Aston Villa and Tottenham Hotspur in this season so seriously, they will have to keep their eyes on those competitors, first to secure their spot in top four before can think of Manchester City and Liverpool. I agree that if Arsenal play carelessly and drop points, they will fail in the title race and might face with risk to be kicked out of top four. Many clubs want to join top four and they are not weak teams.

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January 04, 2024, 02:29:46 AM

They had a pretty rough start but managed to grow into the game and became consistent in their performance. I could remember how they nearly lost to Chelsea in their first game but ended d match as a draw, played a few more games with Bournemouth and Newcastle which they managed to win but wasn’t good performance though. They had this average performance going on for a while and still managed to win matches, no one saw them coming because they don’t play well and gradually they got to top 4 and were just some points behind Arsenal until Arsenal dropped points and they took the top spot.
I don't sure with Chelsea performance in this season will get Champion League spot standings because their performance inconsistency and unpredictable result against mediocre teams with losses many points. Current points left with Arsenal on the fourth standings is 12 points and its not easy for Chelsea if can return to consistent performance. Have two consecutives winning matches in Premier League can't guarantee with promising performance for Chelsea on upcoming match Fulham exactly busy schedule match have to play on FA Cup 3rd round against Preston and few days later will face Middlesbrough on EFL Cup semifinal first leg.

Pochettino must make rotation on upcoming two matches because if push main players have to play on first minutes will make them loss opportunity in domestic league.

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I don't sure with Chelsea performance in this season will get Champion League spot standings because their performance inconsistency and unpredictable result against mediocre teams with losses many points. Current points left with Arsenal on the fourth standings is 12 points and its not easy for Chelsea if can return to consistent performance. Have two consecutives winning matches in Premier League can't guarantee with promising performance for Chelsea on upcoming match Fulham exactly busy schedule match have to play on FA Cup 3rd round against Preston and few days later will face Middlesbrough on EFL Cup semifinal first leg.

Pochettino must make rotation on upcoming two matches because if push main players have to play on first minutes will make them loss opportunity in domestic league.
Chance for Chelsea has yet closed but they likely will need one or two more seasons to enter top four again. This season, Tottenham looks to be stronger than the last season and Aston Villa surprisingly rise a lot and even are participating in title race. There are other clubs like Manchester United, Newcastle United and Chelsea will have to beat at least two or three competitors to participating in top four. With their points and ranking now, it is a very difficult task and neary impossible to achieve in this season.

They have to keep up their hope because it will force them to improve and play better. It will help them to build up their player connections, a stronger squad so if they fail in this season, they will have good preparation for a next season.
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The reason why I am not confident about Arsenal is two things;
1. Arsenal is not a club that will be in somewhere 4th or 5th position during the mid season and later give a surprise to the top before the end of the season.
2. Arsenal is a club which can be at the top of the league and later give up two weeks to end of the season.
For these two reasons, I do not trust Arsenal with the English premier League title. They can comfortably compete for the top 4 but I do not trust them to win

I have not ignored your opinion because this is a fact that has happened since the last few seasons, Arsenal can always reach the top of the standings but towards the end of the season they get worse somehow Arsenal always wasted the opportunity in the 35th match and others and this season it happened, I was not surprised to see Arsenal in the 4th place this week, but I'm sure Arsenal can secure one ticket to the Champions League next season.
Arsenal may just need to be a little smarter in planning their strategy for dividing players in each match. Arteta tends to always field the main squad even though if you consider player rotation like Manchester City and Liverpool do, stability will be easier to control. Every match doesn't have to always score 2 to 3 goals, but Arteta is too ambitious about  goals so like it or not he wants his core players to continue playing as the starting eleven. Sometimes the strategy of rotating players is a risky action it's just that some clubs  are trying to get used to reserve players who rarely appear being given the opportunity to contribute. I'm not surprised why Arsenal finally slipped again, even faster this season than before.

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2. Arsenal is a club which can be at the top of the league and later give up two weeks to end of the season.
For these two reasons, I do not trust Arsenal with the English premier League title. They can comfortably compete for the top 4 but I do not trust them to win

This was what I had thought would be the outcome. I had thought Arsenal would play really well and gather up points that would give them the lead in the league table. Then they would start losing focus and begin to lose and draw their games losing points until a team like Manchester City, (who I still think has a good chance of winning the league title again this season) would overtake them on the table.
About trusting them to win the league title, I’m not so sure. What I’m sure though, is they’re probably going to finish amongst the top four in the league table.

To get the top 4 positions, I think it's easy for everyone to predict because so far the performance has been shown, both Arsenal and Manchester City, it's just that maybe in the middle of this season they are experiencing a decline in performance and I think that's a normal thing in their journey. seasonal.
The big question mark is the winner this season, because Liverpool has strengthened again and several other teams have found gaps in the strong teams so that they can win against the teams that are in the primary league.
Previously I was quite confident about Manchester City's performance as a strong candidate for this season, but now I'm getting a little doubtful, the same thing happens with Arsenal.

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Expected points for the team vs Actual points, through xG(expected goals), posted by xGPhilosophy. Expected goals is a performance metric used to evaluate football team and player performance. It can be used to represent the probability of a scoring opportunity that may result in a goal. xG considers the following factors to determine how likely a goal is going to be scored or conceded: distance to the goal, angle to goal, body part with which the shot was taken, and type of assist or previous action (throughball, cross, set-piece, dribble, etc…). Based on historical information of shots with similar characteristics, the xG model then attributes a value between 0 and 1 to each shot that expresses the probability of it producing a goal.

Man City, Luton, Bournemouth, Brighton are exactly where they should be, with regards to the expected goals scored and conceded. Liverpool have been on the luckier side of things where their opponent's defense and goalkeepers have had a bad day, and they capitalized on it.

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