Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[YuginKadoya]

Here is the result and what could have happened to the fights

Canelo Álvarez VS Gennadiy Golovkin ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

Definitely a slow pace fight and a close fight aswell, I really don't know if these two are just sparring at each other and surely both have the accuracy in getting those punches, while I have seen that Canelo Alvarez has landed some hard shots on triple G that was definitely just swayed by triple G and it seem it doesn't do much damage, but it was really a close fight and many will say that it was a draw fight so why it was not a draw, well this fight is not looking good at Canelo Alvarez career, despite that he won this fight, he is younger than Golovkin, with an 8 years gap, but GGG has withstood Canelo's punches these means Canelo isn't hurting Golovkin much, and surely it was a slow fight in my opinion,

Jesse Rodriguez VS Israel Gonzalez ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

Israel Gonzalez is a volume puncher that he keeps on getting those jabs to Rodriguez, and the referee has constantly warning Rodriguez that he is getting those headbutts more often, and in round 3 Rodriguez is just firing up his shots to Gonzalez and it was bursting, now I think that Bam Rodriguez now on the advance rounds have taken to the level his aggressiveness, to taken more shot score, and I think because Gonzalez was having some headbutt on Rodriguez he has gotten negative points, so this is a win for Rodriguez but it was really a close match just like the Canelo and triple G fight,

Ali Akhmedov VS Gabriel Rosado ROUND 10 - DECISION - WIN

I think Ali Akhmedov was more patient and faster than Rosado, the timing was great in getting those punches in, but that tremendous durability of Gabriel Rosado has save him from getting knockout, it was a great fight for Ali Akhmedov pressuring his opponent to the corner and giving great patient in landing those shots,

[Russlenat]

Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics,..............

He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again.

[Ziskinberg]

Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics,..............

He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again.

Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing.

Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman.

[Fredomago]

Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics,..............

He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again.

Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing.

Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman.

More money and much lighter preparation if Manny will choose to do exhibition for sure there are a still lot of fans who wanted to witness him inside the ring, but professionally wise, I don't think he still need to prove something he already earned the respect from this sport and there's nothing to prove.

In terms of politics, maybe he still has that desire, but maybe it's better for him to focus on helping people without any position, a genuine care and not because of anything in return.

[livingfree]

That's why I believed he can still fight anyone, but would rather test exhibition matches first. The money is there for sure as he still has a lot of boxing fans around the world, not just Filipinos that for sure will watch his fight against the South Korean youtuber.

He can still fight but having that thought of doing other priorities will make him less than with the best that he can. Manny can still make a lot of money with his fame and body through his age but I agree just for these showmatches and not with pro anymore.

And what if the crazy mind of the Paul brothers would come to that point that any of them would invite Manny to a showmatch and sure, it will make him a lot of money to be honest. More than probably the usual amount he's getting from his pro matches.

For sure, maybe the Paul brothers are just waiting for Manny to make a comeback and then invite them to a fight. But not sure about the weight though, in any case we will have to see.

Regarding Manny's focus, I do believed that he is focus on his fight with Spence that time and there was no distraction on his political side. He even asked the grace of Senate that he will take a leave of absence so that he can concentrate and bring glory to the Philippines again by fight Spence. But we all know what happened next, it was Ugas who beat him next and then he decided to retire.

That unexpected turn of event and change of opponent probably really got him. Only a few time left for his preparation to go along with Ugas and that has led him to that loss.

There is still a lot of things that he can do now, the record that he's got will never change and it's stick to the history. He's one of the respected boxers in the world and he has made a lot of admiration not just for him but also for his country.

But that will be interesting if these brothers try to offer something to him for an exhibition. I think they can afford him since they've afforded the other opponents they've challenged. Well, they have to remember, he's a real boxer though. 

[Baofeng]

That's why I believed he can still fight anyone, but would rather test exhibition matches first. The money is there for sure as he still has a lot of boxing fans around the world, not just Filipinos that for sure will watch his fight against the South Korean youtuber.

He can still fight but having that thought of doing other priorities will make him less than with the best that he can. Manny can still make a lot of money with his fame and body through his age but I agree just for these showmatches and not with pro anymore.

And what if the crazy mind of the Paul brothers would come to that point that any of them would invite Manny to a showmatch and sure, it will make him a lot of money to be honest. More than probably the usual amount he's getting from his pro matches.

For sure, maybe the Paul brothers are just waiting for Manny to make a comeback and then invite them to a fight. But not sure about the weight though, in any case we will have to see.

Regarding Manny's focus, I do believed that he is focus on his fight with Spence that time and there was no distraction on his political side. He even asked the grace of Senate that he will take a leave of absence so that he can concentrate and bring glory to the Philippines again by fight Spence. But we all know what happened next, it was Ugas who beat him next and then he decided to retire.

That unexpected turn of event and change of opponent probably really got him. Only a few time left for his preparation to go along with Ugas and that has led him to that loss.

There is still a lot of things that he can do now, the record that he's got will never change and it's stick to the history. He's one of the respected boxers in the world and he has made a lot of admiration not just for him but also for his country.

But that will be interesting if these brothers try to offer something to him for an exhibition. I think they can afford him since they've afforded the other opponents they've challenged. Well, they have to remember, he's a real boxer though.  

Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

As far as the chances of the Paul brothers getting knock out, maybe they can put it in the contract that Manny should take some brakes. Or at least they will have to survived the whole fight just like in the Floyd vs Logan wherein there is no winner and Floyd at times has the change to knock him out but he didn't pull it.

[YuginKadoya]

Look at this guys, an event probably I know this is a boxing thread but I think RIZIN will have the retired boxer, Floyd Mayweather, in an exhibition match against MMA fight Mikuru Asakura

Super RIZIN

Saturday 09.24.2022
Location: Saitama, Japan

MAIN EVENT

Floyd Mayweather Jr. VS Mikuru Asakura

MAIN CARD

Nadaka Yoshinari VS Bandasak

Kota Miura VS Bunchuai Phonsungnoen

Koji Tanaka VS Ray Sadeghi

Like I have said I know that this is a boxing thread and the event is RIZIN and probably Mayweather is fighting a MMA fighter, but sure this is a boxing exhibition match and likely Floyd Mayweather will surely play with his opponent Mikuru Asakura,

[Japinat]

Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics,..............

He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again.

Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing.

Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman.

More money and much lighter preparation if Manny will choose to do exhibition for sure there are a still lot of fans who wanted to witness him inside the ring, but professionally wise, I don't think he still need to prove something he already earned the respect from this sport and there's nothing to prove.

Yes, Pacman knows that his presence is already missed by the fans around the world and giving them an exhibition fight will surely delight them, no doubt that this fight will garner millions of dollars in-terms of revenues again and hopefully soon we can see Mayweather and Pacman again sharing the same ring even if it is an exhibition fight.

...but professionally wise, I don't think he still need to prove something he already earned the respect from this sport and there's nothing to prove.

I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

[livingfree]

~snip~

Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

As far as the chances of the Paul brothers getting knock out, maybe they can put it in the contract that Manny should take some brakes. Or at least they will have to survived the whole fight just like in the Floyd vs Logan wherein there is no winner and Floyd at times has the change to knock him out but he didn't pull it.

Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. 

[AmoreJaz]

~snip~

Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

As far as the chances of the Paul brothers getting knock out, maybe they can put it in the contract that Manny should take some brakes. Or at least they will have to survived the whole fight just like in the Floyd vs Logan wherein there is no winner and Floyd at times has the change to knock him out but he didn't pull it.

Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. 

and that is the major reason why it is not advisable to bet on exhibition fights. they may have some prior arrangements that their fans don't know of. it may be entertaining to watch but betting good amount of money is not recommended on this type of boxing fight. judges can easily make it as a draw even if there is a clear winner inside the ring. but i can agree that there will be boxing fans that are willing to pay for gate ticket if manny will again decide to show up inside the ring.

[Baofeng]

~snip~

Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

As far as the chances of the Paul brothers getting knock out, maybe they can put it in the contract that Manny should take some brakes. Or at least they will have to survived the whole fight just like in the Floyd vs Logan wherein there is no winner and Floyd at times has the change to knock him out but he didn't pull it.

Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. 

and that is the major reason why it is not advisable to bet on exhibition fights. they may have some prior arrangements that their fans don't know of. it may be entertaining to watch but betting good amount of money is not recommended on this type of boxing fight. judges can easily make it as a draw even if there is a clear winner inside the ring. but i can agree that there will be boxing fans that are willing to pay for gate ticket if manny will again decide to show up inside the ring.

He will have to follow that clause in the contract, otherwise, Manny might not get his money.  . So whoever one of the Paul's he fight, they won't get knock out and so their hype will continue.

And I do agree that it's hard to bet on this exhibition fight because some of them might be rig. Again, another good example is Tyson vs Jones. When they have the exhibition, Tyson was the favorite, but the fight ended in draw when it was clear that Iron Mike should at least won this fight. But the judges see it as a draw. And so fans are in a uproar about the decision and that there are speculations that the fight is set up to be a draw in the beginning and there will be no knock out.

[blockman]

I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

That's why if he wants to fight again, there will be a lot of boxers that would be happy to fight against him. It is because of the fame that's attached to him and for those boxers, it's an honor to have a match against him.
What I can see with those new boxers that would still like to fight against him, it's like quick fame and career boost whether they'll be beaten or win against Pacman. That's what Ryan Garcia tried to do but Pacman didn't bite his words.

[serjent05]

Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. 

 , well it is an exhibition fight so anything is possible if agreed by the two camps.  I think in this fight, it isn't about honor or ranking but the entertainment the fans can get plus the money they can gather, may it be for charity purposes or personal gain.  But with the character of Manny, I think part of the money raised will be donated to some charity organization.  If that happen, I believe the money fans spend on the fight is considered worth it because

1. Having to watch their idol fight once again
2. Being able to help a certain charity organization.

[harizen]

After losing to Canelo in their trilogy, there are rumors that GGG is going back to Middleweight to continue his boxing career.

While others are saying he should retire now, I don't think it will be easy.

Just let GGG do what he wants. If he really feels it, then just continue.

[jakelyson]

I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

That's why if he wants to fight again, there will be a lot of boxers that would be happy to fight against him. It is because of the fame that's attached to him and for those boxers, it's an honor to have a match against him.
What I can see with those new boxers that would still like to fight against him, it's like quick fame and career boost whether they'll be beaten or win against Pacman. That's what Ryan Garcia tried to do but Pacman didn't bite his words.

It is not just fame but also easy money for whoever will fight Manny Pacquiao. Though he is already old for boxing, his name still has a lot of pull for fans. I am sure, there are a lot of people who still want to see Pacquiao in the ring again. That alone can generate a lot of money. But I do not think we will still see Pacquaio in the ring again, either rank or exhibition.

[chaser15]

Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics,..............

He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again.

Pacquiao is already retired for good. If he goes to professional boxing, I doubt he can still compete here as he already rested for long and not doing intense training like he always did before. Even I'm annoyed at his future plan of doing exhibition match, then that's his life.

As we get annoyed, he is just making money. We should leaved it that way.

[inthelongrun]

This weekend's boxing events:

1. ESPN presents Shakur Stevenson defending his WBO and WBC belts against Robson Conceicao.
2. We have a WBO heavyweight eliminator between undefeated Joe Joyce and former world champion Joseph Parker on ESPN+.
3. On DAZN, there's featherweight Leigh Wood defending his Mickey Mouse belt against dangerous Mauricio Lara.
And last but maybe not the least...
4. Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s quest to rule the universe. He already smashed Goku into tidbits and sent him crying like a child. Mayweather this weekend will face Sakura, a friend of Naruto. I won't be shocked if Mayweather will fight the Sailor Moons soon.

[TravelMug]

I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

That's why if he wants to fight again, there will be a lot of boxers that would be happy to fight against him. It is because of the fame that's attached to him and for those boxers, it's an honor to have a match against him.
What I can see with those new boxers that would still like to fight against him, it's like quick fame and career boost whether they'll be beaten or win against Pacman. That's what Ryan Garcia tried to do but Pacman didn't bite his words.

It is not just fame but also easy money for whoever will fight Manny Pacquiao. Though he is already old for boxing, his name still has a lot of pull for fans. I am sure, there are a lot of people who still want to see Pacquiao in the ring again. That alone can generate a lot of money. But I do not think we will still see Pacquaio in the ring again, either rank or exhibition.

Fame is no longer there for those who are going to fight Manny Pacquiao, it's all for the money now. So if he ever fights for boxing in exhibitions, his fans will buy the ticket because they want to see him fight. But I don't think it will be the same when he is very young and fighting professional fights.

But that is fine, we want boxers like Pacquiao to make some money although he has retired. He won't get that much damage so he will be OK with doing exhibitions and we will see him this December against a Youtuber.

[jossiel]

4. Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s quest to rule the universe. He already smashed Goku into tidbits and sent him crying like a child. Mayweather this weekend will face Sakura, a friend of Naruto. I won't be shocked if Mayweather will fight the Sailor Moons soon.

Wait.

What's this?

I am not aware of what has happened during the weekend on Mayweather as I don't follow him most often. When I've read that he's into anime, it got me curious.

Care to tell more about this, mate?

[YuginKadoya]

Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing.

Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman.

yes, he can still fight but I don't think he would risk to tainted his record with losses upon his retirement, I think he had already felt it in him that he can not last anymore it is good for him to just focus on exhibition matches that are not that risky even an amateur can surely go and fight with a well known retired boxer, for me DK Yoo is an amateur boxer and he will likely be pursuing his death wish fighting Manny Pacquiao,

And speaking of exhibition matches Jake Paul is challenging Anderson Silva, I think Jake Paul has a death wish aswell,

~snip~

Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

are we talking about the Paul brothers here, if we do the Paul Brother is surely digging their own grave by challenging Manny Pacquiao in an exhibition match, but this could be a great match that many will surely watch, people that want the Paul brothers to win, over PACMAN, people who want the Paul Brothers to lose and beat the crap out of them by yours truly, and others that are curious in seeing this fight, there are different people that wants to see this match-up,